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    Tablet PC - a Review for Artists

    Hey Guys,

    Well, as promised after owning this Fujitsu slate tablet for a week now I've wrote a review of my impressions from an artists perspective. Overall I'm very impressed... there are a few issues, some hardware, but mostly software that ought to be resolved in the future, but I would definately recommend this tablet to anyone sitting on the sidelines, not sure if they should take the plunge.

    The full article, with pictures and movies and everything can be read here, but I'll post all the text below as well.

    The video of me sketching with this tablet in Sketchbook Pro can be seen here

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    FUJITSU ST5112 TABLET PC - an artist's perspective
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    Introduction:
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    I had been looking for an alternative to my digital art workflow for a while. The wacom tablet worked well enough for digital painting and such, but I never could get the hang of sketching or drawing or inking on the thing... and after years and years of trying, it was time for a change. I had considered Wacom's Cintiq monitor, but I considered the price to be not worth the technology you get out of it. And the way they try to justify the huge pricepoint was quite a turnoff. That led me to try building my own home-made "cintiq" with the help of the great guys over at Bongofish. Things were going good until I accidentally fried my electronics board. With that up in smoke, I started looking at tablet PC's. But none of them really were fitting my purposes... they were either too big/bulky, or too much like a laptop. That's when I discovered this great review of the Fujitsu ST5112 by Kevin Toeffel. After watching the review a couple times I decided this may be the closest ting out there right now to what I was looking for. Still... in doing research online I was dismayed to find very little practical information about how these tablets work for digital drawing and painting. I decided to keep my fingers crossed and take the plunge. After receiving the tablet and working with it for a couple weeks, I'm now convinced it was the right decision to make. So let's take a look at this sucker...

    Specifications:
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    Model: Fujitsu ST5112
    Processor: Intel Duo Core
    Memory: 2 GB Ram
    Disk: 40 GB Hard Drive
    screen: 12.2" XGA
    OS: Win XP Tablet PC Edition
    Ports: WiFi/Bluetooth/USB 2.0(x2)/Firewire... blah blah blah

    First Impressions:
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    I purchased the tablet from the nice guys at laptopauthority.com, who I highly recommend. Not only were they very nice and helpful and went out of their way to get me the tablet ASAP while simultaneously saving some shipping charges, they also had the cheapest price for this sucker anywhere on the net. I'm not going to go into the normal PC mumbo jumbo here, as it's already covered elsewhere. Manufacturers have yet to release a tablet that is geared specifically toward the artist community, as such, this is definately a business class machine and has all the ports/prereqs you would expect for such a machine. For my needs, and I figure most people, I don't NEED any of these ports actually, and almost wish they weren't there... that isn't really a strike against this machine, as EVERY machine you buy these days will have pretty much the same config along these lines.

    The machine itself is relatively handsome (heh!) and streamlined. There are some buttons here, and some lit diodes there... but most of the computer is nothing but screen. It's 3.5lbs, which isn't exactly light, but is pretty manageable in your hands or on your lap. The screen itself is only 1024x768 which I was a little wary of when I bought it, but in use it's actually fine. The surface is nice hard glass and the color is pretty good actually, as are the viewing angles. The PC comes with 2 screen protector's which are decent, however when they are on the screen you lose a bit of it's crispness and contrast. You also gain a bit of reflections... even though the protector sheet is anti-glare, the screen itself is MORE anti-glare so there is a bit of a tradeoff when using the protector. Currently I'm not emotionally prepared to do crosshatch strokes right onto the pretty glass. I'm keeping the protector. There are 3rd party protector's too but I haven't looked into them much yet.

    The model I bought was configured with only 512 MB of RAM, and normal computer stuff runs pretty well on this amount. However photoshop and other graphics software was a bit slow, definately a bit dissapointing. I had anticipated this and ordered two 1GB sticks to replace the 512, and once the 2 Gig went in photoshop zooms! It actually runs faster than my desktop machine now for most things. (photoshop filters may take longer, but I haven't done a scientific comparison).

    The tablet has a Wacom digitizer stuck inside, so the pen has all the pressure sensitivity you'll need (does it have 512 levels or 1024 levels? dunno actually... but again, it has all the pressure sensitivy you'll need). Out of the box the PC has generic tablet pc drivers installed, which limit the function of the pen and possibly the pressure. However on Wacom's website you can download their tablet PC driver which brings back all the functionality you expect. The driver isn't as robust as Wacom's normal driver, but it does let you assign different functions or keystrokes to any of the pen buttons etc. The pen is shorter and skinnier than a normal Wacom pen. It still has the familiar 2 buttons on the side, plus the tip and eraser, however the eraser feels a bit stiffer than a wacom pen. It fits nicely inside the tablet when not in use.

    Using the tablet at first was a bit of an interesting experience, as I've never used a computer like this without a keyboard. But after a few days I really started to enjoy this way of interfacing. the handwriting recognition works surprisingly well... it may require you to neaten up your handwriting, but it recognizes most of my writing very accurately. I sometimes have difficulty going from uppercase to lowercase, or similar letters like o's and zeros, but this may be due to my writing style. The computer worked fine out of the box (with the improvements listed above). The wireless internet started up without any trouble and is just as fast, if not faster than my desktop. Overall I really enjoy using this machine for general computer use. It does have it's limitations, I wouldn't want write code or articles (like this one) on it, but it isn't really made for that. It does come with a bunch of software installed which I'll probably never use. The Windows Notebook app is pretty handy for taking notes... pretty basic and simple which I like (I can't stand the onenote or evernote things). Battery life is very good, especially when dimming the screen down to the lowest setting. At least for me everything is still very useable at this setting, though if I need to do some critical color work I may raise the brightness a bit. The brightness etting actually goes very high, to a point that is almost TOO bright. The screen, despite it's XGA res, is the best selling point of this tablet (and rightfully so!).

    Photoshop:
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    As I said above Photoshop runs smooth as silk on this thing, even with hires multilayered files, when you have a large amount of Ram. I would consider 1GB the base minimum... I have 2GB which is great, and if you have the $$$ to shell out for $600 2GB mem modules, you could put 2 of them in there for a total of 4GB of Ram. That being said, I've become painfully aware how much photoshop was designed to be used in conjunction with a keyboard. I got so used to using the key commands over the years that their absence when using PS with a keyboardless tablet was maddening. And after being accustomed to a dual monitor setup and having all my palettes out of the way, the single 12" screen here can be a bit cluttered. There are ways of getting around the palette issue, and using the menus rather than key commands, but despite the nice speed that photoshop runs at, creating art with it is slower than using my desktop. This was alarming actually, and something I didn't think about until I started using the tablet. I do all of my art in photoshop and was not happy with the prospect of it's useability being diminished. Also I've found that in photoshop doing quick light pen flicks, or dots, didn't always register a mark. This brings me to a program that I consider a must have when creating art on a tablet PC:

    Sketchbook Pro:
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    I had tried this program a few months ago on my desktop machine, and really I didn't understand what the purpose of it was. It just seemed to be a very very limited version of painter with a novelty interface. I lamented the state of graphics software, thinking this was a real waste of my hard drive space and promptly deleted it. However, when I installed this onto the Slate I felt I had attained enlightenment. Everything made perfect sense now... the "novelty" interface became an ESSENTIAL interface. This thing was MADE for drawing right on the screen with no keyboard. The palettes are easily accessible when you need them and are out of the way the rest of the time. With a little tweaking of my pen driver, assigning a few key commands to the buttons, I was up and running with the most intuitive and easily accessible interface I've ever used. Now this thing is definately no photoshop. It only has the most basic of commands and options, just enough to do what it was designed to do... draw, sketch, and paint. After a few days of practice, I can definately see me using this program in lieu of most of photoshop's now cumbersome options.

    It's not perfect though, and has few annoying quirks. One of them being, that when you zoom in past 100% on your image, instead of showing the actual pixel level of your image it anti-aliases the shit out of everything. As far as I could see there are no options to keep it from doing this which is either an amazing oversight or a severely dumb design decision. There should at least be an option of switching it on or off depending on the users preference. Another oversight is that while you can export layered photoshop files, there is no way to reimport those same layered files. this poses problems when working with both programs in an art workflow... lets say you do a bunch of coloring in sketchbook pro and export your nice layered file to photoshop to add some filters or do some color correction, you're now stuck saving your edited PSD file as a flattened tif before you can reopen it in sketchbook pro. Suck. Some other things include no blending modes on the layers, not being able to open multiple documents at once etc. But the big 2 I mentioned above are things that seriously need correction with this program, before I would be completely happy with it. Overall though it does provide a very nice art experience in conjunction with a tablet or slate PC. You can turn off the cursors which gives you a very natural pen on paper feel.

    Overall Art experience:
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    Drawing with the pen directly on the screen is a paradigm shifting experience. It makes your brand new Intuos 3 look like a big plastic piece of paper with no ink in the pen. As mentioned above, I don't know what the pressure sensitivty of this thing is, but I also don't care. It does what I need it to do when I need it to do it. Because of the thickness of the glass, there is sometimes a discrepency between where you put the pen and where you actually draw... at least from a perception point of view. For example, if you're holding the tablet and looking at your drawing point from an angle your pen tip will appear as if it is floating above your cursor. This really only is a problem when looking at the screen from extreme angles, but I have found myself experiencing this a few times. a quick reorientation of either your head or the tablet corrects the perception problem.

    A big plus when using this tablet over a monitor like the cintiq is that it's truly portable. I can unplug and go contort myself into the big cushy leather chair in the living room and continue my painting or go outside and paint the birdies without lugging around a paint kit (conversely I can also surf porn while in the bathroom, but that's not the subject of this review). The battery life is such that I can actually get a good amount of work done while unplugged before it runs out of juice.

    Overall the art experience with this tablet has been excellent so far, given a little setup time to rearrange photoshop and sketchbook pro with my new keyboardless settings, I can't even imagine going back to a normal wacom now. In fact I tried it just to see and it was pretty awkward which is a testament to the natural useability of being able to draw directly on the screen. As I have yet to complete a big painting project with the tablet, I'll have to update this review with any new findings once I have a little more experience painting on it.

    Considerations:
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    While this computer is very nice as used as an art making machine, it's primary market is business. With that in mind, there are a few things I would change personally if I were to design this specifically for artists. First are the Infrared ports. This thing has 3 of them and at least for my uses they are all unnecessary. The speaker is kinda crappy... probably just ebcause of the small size of it. I consider fingerprint readers to be nothing but gimmicks and have no use for it or the software that runs it. It comes with WiFi so personally I feel no need for the external LAN port or the modem port. (who the hell has a modem anymore anyway?). I find some of the buttons on this thing to be unnecessary, though the dedicated rotate screen button is awesome, and it works lightning fast! I have yet to have a need to install anything off a cd-rom or dvd, but If I did, I'm not sure what I would do as this computer has neither. I suppose I could make an image of the disk on my desktop then transfer and open the images on the tablet. If I were buying this as my only computer I think I would need at some point to get the docking station (yuck!). I would love for the whole computer to be slightly thinner (get rid of some of those unnecessary ports etc.) but it really is thin enough for any type of use, and my last wish would be to have a slightly higher res screen. But as mentioned above the resolution really seems to work well at this size screen.

    Conclusions and Recommendations:
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    I would recommend this tablet to any artist who does a large amount of their drawing or painting work digitally. The build quality is solid, it's very portable and I have yet to find any major faults with it. To those who may have been thinking about tablet pc's for a while and may be sitting on the fence, I say go for it. If you can stand adjusting your photoshop usage a bit, or using sketchbook pro for certain (if not all) operations then you really can't lose in picking this tablet.

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    Whoaoaa , Thanks a lot for the great review!

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    Thanks for sharing Chingwa! Good to see a review from an artist's point of view.

    Looking forward to your tablet made art.






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    thanks a lot for taking your time...
    and I have to agree with flipmcgee: post some tabletmade art...
    btw... did you use it with artrage? very similar interface but different brushes.
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    Thanks for the review. Your review doesn't pull me over the fence though,
    in fact it has made me a bit more doubtfull about buying a slate pc.

    I think I'm gonna wait for the mac slate to see how that will work out.
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    Thanks guys, I put a bit of time into this because I figure there are a bunch of people out there who have been looking at these and wondering how well they work for art. Hopefully people get some insights from the words I wrote. There are a few pics posted at the link at the top of the page... but they're just dumb sketches. I'm working on my EON entry on this sucker, so we'll see how that comes out in a few days.

    Zaknafain, I did try artrage but wasn't really impressed as much as sketchbook pro. artrage feels like it's trying to hard to mimic natural media, and personally, if I want a natural media look, I'll just use natural media. sketchbook pro is basic enough and offers the simple tools I like, plus in their demo I can see all the functionality of the software before/if I decide to buy it. artrage holds back a lot of essentials (yeah I know it's really cheap software, but still....)

    ArtAddict: Heh, cool. I don't work for fujitsu, so am no way offended. I just hope it helps you a little in your decision.

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    I must say that your initial review put me off. I can understand missing those valued shortcut keys in Photoshop. Watching you work in sketchbook pro looked wonderful though. It just seems soo natural. It made me wish I could take my desktop out.

    You just pushed me another step towards grabbing one of these instead of upgrading my desktop/tablet. I think I feel my wallet crying.
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    There is a wireless keyboard (sold separately) for the tablet if you must use one and still have the dough.




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    Woot. we certainly got served, did we not? Great review, certainly makes me more willing to buy me one. Only problem for me is still the price, and with the added price of RAM, it just got even more expensive.

    Thanks for the review.

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    (conversely I can also surf porn while in the bathroom, but that's not the subject of this review).

    sold! just kidding.... yeah about the lack of a keyboard, I would definitely buy one of those numeric keypads to load with my essential hotkeys in photoshop/painter... Im trying to factor in the cost of all things, like the extra ram im going to NEED when I get one..

    Is there anyone else that has used a tablet pc from a different brand like Toshiba or IBM that can write a little about their experience with it?

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    I think the photoshopproblem is solved in CS3. It has a new interface (that still takes a lot of place). But the really usefull thing is that you can (like in all previous photoshopversions) make all palettes disappear. The new thing is, when you come close to the border of the screen, the palettes get visible again until you make another brushstroke. I tried the CS3 beta and it was an amazing usefull feature because I was able to work fullscreen all the time with all the features still easily accessable.
    Though I still think that a keypad for the important hotkeys is a musthave...
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    That review was quite informative although I'm not ready to buy in yet as the price is still too expensive for me...can't wait until I get a good enough job where I can afford these things. o_O

    I'm surprised that a tablet hasn't appeared on the market that's geared more to artists.
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    Hey man, just wanted to thank you for that really detailed review on the tablet. I was very much on the fence between the Cintiq and the tablet.
    Im getting my Cintiq delivered this next week....YEAH!!

    thanks man, I'll make sure I make a review on it (is it needed?)

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    Hey, I just got the Fujitsu T4215 convertible notebook.. I dont regret it, but I do have a few minor issues with it.. I'll put in my thoughts about it once i get the extra (much-needed) RAM, which is a bit of what the issue is with it, and the USB keypad..

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    Any comments on visibility during the day in places lit indirectly or directly by sunlight?
    Cause if i could truly get one that i could take outdoors, i'd be all over that like flies on shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sciboy
    Cause if i could truly get one that i could take outdoors, i'd be all over that like flies on shit.

    Recommend tablet armor for outdoor use: http://www.tabletpc2.com/Review-Otte...icle020105.htm Compatible with Fujitsu 5000 Stylistic series. But even if you're using it...DON'T DROP IT.
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    sciboy: The visibility in direct and indirect sunlight is very good. You need to have the display brightness turned all the way up though, which will reduce your battery charge. Also you to take the screen protector off or you get some diffused reflections... the screen itself is excellent though. I'm really thinking of just keeping the screen protector off as it interferes with some clarity and color fidelity.

    flipmcgee: That tablet armor is awesome! Makes it look like something from 1985!

    Mainloop: can't wait to hear your review on the convertible tablet. Guys, Ram really makes a huge difference on these things. Ram is cheap these days... 2GB for $200 or less... so if you're considering getting one of these it may be more cost effective to buy a base unit like I did, and then upgrade the ram yourself. Buy buying the base unit with limited ram (512) and a smaller hard drive, and adding in the ram myself I saved over $800.

    JLAlfaro: I would totally love to hear a balanced review of the cintiq, from soneone who actually uses it on a daily basis.

    My finished Eon entry, while I ran out of time to make it as good as I hoped it would be (those figures are way too cartoon-ish for my taste), still came out pretty good. I had done the initial color sketch stage in photoshop, but all the rest of the final piece was done on the slate in sketchbook pro. take a look here:

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    Hey everyone, I posted my tablet PC review on my blog, i didnt feel like uploading everything up to this thread:

    http://themainloop.blogspot.com/2007...al-review.html

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    hey guys i also bought a Fujitsu tablet pc model T4215. i emailed Chingwa personally the same day this thread was opened about the screens slickness (i like a pencil on paper feel) - so i swapped the plastic nibs it came with for my intuos 3 felt nibs (that black nib). That did it for me, it feels good.

    Anyway just a heads up about my system specs, i purchased the more pricey version that has an Intel core 2 duo processor, 100 gig hard drive and 1 gig (one stick) of ram. I've have both photoshop cs and painter 9.5 open and I'm not experiencing any slowdowns, i think it's thanks to the core 2 duo processor. I'll probably buy another stick of ram thus making it 2 gigs, but for now I'm happy. Also i purchased a mini usb keyboard which is the same dimensions as a laptops keyboard. with this setup my desktop is gathering dust.

    In conclusion i bought the bulkier version for the better processor and dvd drive for more of a mini desktop feel.

    blah, i just want to inform others who are seriously interested in a tablet pc, opposed to a pricier Cintiq

    Hope i didn't hijack this thread.

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    Thanks for the wonderful reviews! i am considering a tablet pc to sketch outdoors as well. Here's one that might be good for people that like to travel light, and do sketches or landscape paintings:

    http://www.oqo.com/index.html

    It's only got 1gm max ram tho... so i think i will wait a bit...?

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    But does that OQO Model 2 have a wacom penable pen or just a stylus? I had checked it out before, but couldn't find any info.

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