First upper body

[Bourbaki]

My first upper body sketch trial thingy no ref used

[MatthewGraves]

Hm.

I suppose the most obvious point would be his lack of shoulders, but I think I can see what you're trying to do -- have him be flexing down, if I'm not mistaken? Shoulders hunched over?

[Bourbaki]

Yep, i think if you tense the muscles on the neck and the shoulders a lot it looks really triangular and the shoulders lower a bit dont they?

[JAG.]

they do.. but these seem a little too low. plus the size or biceps and forearms seem off.. nice work though from no ref - JAG

[Infinit]

no ref used

better do
without it's only guessing what it has to look like!
maybe use a pencil or a ballpen at the begining to work faster and define formes more effective
(cause you'll have to draw a lot of torsos to uderstand them)

[Elwell]

no ref used

Why?
I mean great, you've demonstrated that you don't have a very good understanding of the anatomy of the upper body. Now what?

[Bourbaki]

Well its never too late to learn this is it ? Maybe a little more constructive critique would be better.

[Elwell]

OK, how's this...
Print out you picture.
Stick it next to a mirror.
Take off your shirt.
Stand in front of the mirror so that your body is in as close to the position of your picture as you can get.
Compare and contrast.

[Infinit]

now get some reference or even better model

[Bourbaki]

Hehe, maybe i should add a cooking spoon
Though i think that i wasnt too far off with the image ...
I just need a better way to construct the extends of the body i think.

[juicess]

the gesture of the body is not so convencin if you say its a guy flexing, and mmm well like everybody pointed out, you need work on your anatomy...good luck

[Bourbaki]

An update

[Elwell]

Better.
Needs collarbones.

[Bourbaki]

Another update with collarbones