To this image:
To this image:
Change the fence, it totally disturbs the horizonal line with bad tangents. Also doublecheck perspective, you got some off looking lines.
remove the fence, it looks bad. also it seems that something is wrong with the lighting on the left face of the building? shouldn't it be all in shadow? it seems that the lightsource hits from the upper right.
The structure seems like it's leaning to the left because you've decided that the horizon is higher on the right side than on the left. Check your vanishing points!
A good number of crits. Thank you for your collaborations.
I´m starting to be agree with the fence. Maybe I´ll put it on the foreground to test it, and if it not works I´ll remove it.
Maybe the composition is leaning to the left, but with the light and the perspective maybe I´m not agree. Not because I think you are wrong, It´s because the gas station structure was made starting from a photography of a real gas station and I don´t touch it, only to add textures and overpaint a bit, but the structure is the same that the photo.
Thank you for your collaborations, I´m going to change the fence and I´ll put the new version soon !!!
Hello again !! I changed it a bit. Two versions. One with fence in other place:
And another with no fence:
Also I tried to put a bit more straight the horizon.
The "things" in the foreground are too dark that I can't even tell what they are.
Hello keremcantarhan, thank you for your contribution. These "black things" are the foreground. Normally if you have a shot like this is good to put something like this to increase the 3d feeling. The things on the foreground usually shows solid black shadows and forms because the more near to the viewer the higher are the contrast (I think this is the way of say it, I don´t speak English...)
The left side of the forecourt canopy is in shadow, but the left side of the office isnt. this is impossible.
nice vibe tho, keep working it!
tthis thec losest i could find in roughly the same perspective and lighting regime; i see what youre going for but its confusing as hell.
and stuff in the foreground isnt AUTOMATICALLY black, it might be, if its in shade, but the real rule is shadows tend to lighten in the distance as intervening air diffuses and refracts light around. thinking all things in the foreground are superblack is wrong.
Last edited by Velocity Kendall; February 8th, 2013 at 05:33 PM.
Hello again, thank you for your crit Velocity Kendall.
Maybe I´m agree with the light of the foreground, but I don´t with the light of the structure. In fact, here is the photo that I took of the gas station. On it you can see the light affects to the structure in the same way as my illustration because I didn´t touch it (I only changed de levels to make a little bit more of contrast). Thank you again for collaborate
Look at the places I wrote Lighten This. they are much much darker on your image than the photo.
the confusion is happening because the actual sun is high above and behind and slightly to the right of the viewer, which in some places you are sticking to, and in some places you are ignoring and simplifying to a more simple sun is on the right regime.
lighting consistency is key to making an image gel; your brain will always know something is wrong, which is why everyone keeps telling you.
slavishly copying a photo, but then randomly deviating from it is a super easy way to create inconsistent lighting.
The problem with using photos too closely is that if a photo looks a little strange, people will say "That is strange but it's a photo so it must be real". If they see your picture based on the photo, they will say "That is strange. The stupid artist made a mistake." Art is difficult, artists make a lot of mistakes, so if something looks wrong it will ALWAYS be assumed to be the fault of the artist. So unless you want to always carry a stack of reference photos with you and explain yourself to people who mostly don't care, you will start adjusting your reference.
Your people are too small and slightly misaligned - your standing figure is actually hovering (and so is the shack)
Is their shack a photo manipulation as well?, the shack entrance is to dark and too detailed and is dragging it into the foreground.
Tonally it should be similar to the tone on the ceiling directly below them.
Last edited by Venger; February 8th, 2013 at 06:54 PM.
It's some of the additions which are causing problems…
Before you jump on me - if you took the photo yourself, that's fine go ahead and use it - photo comps are ok for getting out fast ideas. If it's not your photo (though I think it is) well, that could cause problems if it's not well disguised or changed (and not approved or credited)
"Actually if you check its actually painted over the photo with additions.
It's some of the additions which are causing problems…"
"photo comps are ok for getting out fast ideas."
Ah, yes I agree with that.
Hello again guys, and thank you
Ok, I´m agree with some of your crits. You can´t copy a photo and preserve all the light and all the elements as they appear on the photo. But that´s because I darkened the left side of the structure a bit, because in the original photo it appears too iluminated (for my opinion). Maybe I had to do this on the principal building on the left side as you said, but I don´t think I must enlighten the left side of the red structure and the van .....all this with respect at your crits, of course
The sun wasn´t too high because It was at morning.
Venger, the stack is also a photo manipulation, I detailed it because I want the viewer pay attention to it, as well as the structure and the van of the floor. Not the same thing with the two guys of the platform. This was a concept for an idea, I made it in a few hours
About the photo: Yes, it is my own photo.
Thank you again
Last edited by Jorem; February 8th, 2013 at 07:28 PM.
I think it's quite good as it is. I can almost smell the scent of petrol when I look at it. Good work!
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