Maybe I wasn't clear. Medical studies about drugs != pro-drug literature, in my opinion.
What I meant was psychedelic mysticism. The idea that taking drugs leads you to a higher level of understanding that what is available. Also the results of psychedelic visions as prophecy, natural explanation, supernatural evidence. Stuff like Timewave Zero. Those things are not science. I wasn't saying anything about medical experiments.
The politics surrounding drug use are just that--politics. Though it comes off as the pro-drug people implying that having a political position of legalization and decriminalization is a scientific stance. It's a matter of law and politics. Science is used and abused to support the political decisions. I think points on both sides proves this argument is more about values, politics, and law than science.
The medical studies are indeed easy to find with a few minutes of googling. The reason I haven't engaged anyone on that matter is because it then becomes about who can find the most links supporting their point. Nobody here is writing a scholarly article and I don't expect the points made here to hold up to that much scrutiny. I'm sure people who are incredibly passionate about the subject have plenty of bookmarks at the ready to fire off. I simply don't have the time to take on every single link that upwards of four people can throw at me. And honestly, I'm not that passionate about the subject. I think it's silly to sit around rattling off factoids about our favorite drugs and congratulating each other on how educated we are for reading erowid. Or talking about Switzerland (which I called). That's quite boring actually, from a thinking standpoint. If you want to take that as a cop-out, go ahead. Everyone can go post art (I hear it's really great).
I originally posted because the idea was to ignore any social consequences of drug use, and focus on the fact that some people use it responsibly. Which seems like an odd way to look at it. And thus began the claims of scientific superiority and crying about post counts. But the real point is that if you cannot impose responsible drug use, then it does no good to suggest responsible use. So it's a bad idea to praise it in front of people who may get the wrong impression and do drugs because their favorite art site says so.
I do want to thank Jake for being civil even when I was being antagonistic. I don't have a problem with him. Kev makes good points all day, I wish people would open their minds a bit to consider them.
Last edited by s.ketch; December 5th, 2012 at 11:33 PM.
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