june's here. ready or not. (sp thread)

[evolve]

hey. looks like i get to kick things off. i wish i were more proud of it. oh well.

[endregan]

Been a while since I have done a quick sp...

well here it is haha

And Yes my one eye really does droop a bit like that Its allergy time woo.

well it may be a tad exaggerated hahaha

[Kanimator]

Hey guys. I'm back-ish. Good to see you still at it. Milestone week at work, but I thought I'd squeeze in this self portrait.

[dCepT]

I'm gonna post a new one soon, but here's my last from last month as well.

Next one I'll try to make a digital. I purchased painter 8 yesterday, and I'm so stoked about getting in there and exploring it!!!!

evolve: I like the colors in it, but it looks like your face is a little distorted...kinda slanting a bit.

endregan: Looks pretty solid, albeit a little flat.. Maybe the tones are too close to eachother. How's your allergy goin'? Better?

Jens: I kinda liked the thin one. I'm not gonna bitch about the hair again, 'cuz I already did...
I need to render my hair better too, so I guess I should just shut up and draw, right?

kanimator: looks good, but your right eye (our left) is too close to the nose, I think.



d-C

[evolve]

dcept- yeah, i don't have the hand eye cordination worked out yet with the wacom tablet. i like real media where you can see the line you put down on the paper. so some of my stuff gets a little skewed. i didn't see it in that one, but i really appreciate your honesty and help.

here's todays:

[jook]

I have not been in the mood to paint or draw my own face. I have not been in the mood for anything other than beer and food really. I wish I would be able to kick my own ass out of this shit. I decided to paint myself anyways, this was a quick and drunken attempt at a charicature...



evolve... your 2 pics in this thread both look the same... a good signe I think... either you have a small mouth or you are drawing it a bit too small...

Kanimator.. good to see you again... I still miss those ones where you did funky things to them, like show you in front of a mirro with the reflection different and shit... you know, deep stuff...

Jens... you da man!!!

endregan.. yeah... a tad exaggerated... looking good though.

[Mindflaw]

Hi

Just been moving 700 km to my hometown
I´m still unpacking and stuff, but from now on I try to
participate more.

I will not finish this one since I like it the way it is



Jook: :bash: Get back drawing sp:s do one then another one then another one etc otherwise :realmad: did it help? Ok I´m not the best one at kicking people around and force them to make stuff, anyway I´ll do it anyway

evolve: try doing the lines with pencil then scan it add a layer on top of it might work to get it right on the other hand you lose some practice with the wacom and to be honest I never tried what I suggested heh (but it seems logical to work).

dCept: imo you should avoid the line that separetes the hair from the face (the same kind of line I´m using in my sp) I think it will make your sp more realistic and fit more into the style your using even if your are using a broken line it shows hope you understand my English btw its like the sp

Kanimator: hope backish means back at a regular basis

Jens: 30/5 think you got to big eyes, oh and hate is such a stron word anyway it turned out ok especially since I don´t know how your mental pic was, anyway just do the idea over and over again until you get it right and show it to us. Ok?

endregan: if your allergy get really bad couldn´t you do an eye study in colour that would be cool.

edit: old site down changed to photobucket, Don´t join me in the hate of red X make peace love and understanding not hate... Yay now I´m calm again

[Arbiter051]

Tried a SP. It was pretty fun, but I was using a mirror, so I kind of got my concentration face. I'm really a pretty happy kid, honest



Jens: you look eerily like my friend Jim :eek:

[dCepT]

mindflaw: yeah I know I'll render the hair next time. New one coming up soon! Thanks for the crit.

d-C

[evolve]

jook, i do have a small mouth width-wise, but puffy lips. however, it sure works fine, i'm the loudest kid i ever met.

here's a quick one.

[Sharon5]

It looked like all Males so far, so here we go...

Ugly Me!



Painter 8.

[Mindflaw]

Heres a really quick one (4 min), made it just to get back into drawing other than that it´s a good warning example that you need to take the time it takes to make a good pic.



Sharon5: When it comes to uglyness you can´t beat me anyway check out the right eye seems to be in the wrong angle. Now make another one and post it ok

[dCepT]

Here's one I destroyed in painter
sketch to be found in my daily sketchbook, if it's of any interest.. heh



d-C

[Blackhawk]

Got a little funky with this one.



Come on everyone, let's get this section lively again.

[ATOMICsizePENCIL]

i havnt drawn in close to a month aside from some meaningless dabble. at one point during the last few weeks, i made up my mind to give up on art as a career. i cant find the stupidity to commit to it though.

sometimes, all it takes is to just see another artists work, and i just want to draw again.

thanks blackhawk





ive been peeking in here thru the last month...and wow, slow month.

- welcome sharon5, as ugly as you may or may not think you are, your skills are beautiful. beautiful pallete and rendering.

[Blackhawk]

Wazzo, you give up art and I'll hunt you down, bring a pencil and a whip, and force you to draw while I stand over you and lash your back everytime you put the pencil down. Take a break if you need to, but don't you dare.

Your welcome by the way, new one coming tonight. I'm going to try to kickstart this thread again. I haven't been very active in it and I think this thread just needs some new loving.

[emily g]

Hello everyone!
Here's one from me



comments:

Jens: Come on now! You must draw your whole head!
J/k These look really good, as usual. Seriously, drawing the whole head will force you to learn construction.

Wazzo: Nice technique. Do more.

Blackhawk: Very nice. I'm glad you will be participating again.
You have improved by leaps and bounds since you first started these sp's. Great flesh tones.

dCept: I like the one red eye. Your others look good, too.

Mindflaw: You have a very whimsical (fun/fanciful) style.

Sharon5: Very nice. I would like to see some dramatic lighting this next time, with more shadows.

evolve: Yours have been looking good. Keep going.

Arbiter051: Cool. It looks like you are separating the hair into light and shadow well.

Jook: Hey, the flesh tones are pretty good!

Kanimator: Give us some more! I have missed yours.

Endregan: If you will do this for me, I would like you to draw yourself WITHOUT hair this next time.
The reason I ask is that it will force you to construct the whole head instead of hiding it under your hair.

Emily

edit to add--I will do it, too. I will pull my hair back on my next one and show the shape of my head (and my ears!).

[Mindflaw]

Hi folks will do a sp later today or night depends on how quick I can do all the must do stuff that takes fun out of life. anyway my free account disappeared yesterday but I fixed it now.

emily g: thanks for the comments. I like your one * turns brain off - starts to speak nonse cause of the pure fun to do so* even if I tried to nitpick I wouldn´t find anything to crit, but shame to the one that quits, I found way around I would like to see you make the shoulders too only because I think that would be really hard to do that means in a way that it would look good using that technique and material. *mode off*

Jens: oh me a ehh... well ok I post a sp later with the deadline before I go to bed.

Wazzo: You know I expect you to post a a sp every day from now on even if it´s a one minute or just a plain screw up. I´ll even challenge you if it would help.

Blackhawk: Nice one good to see you starting to use colour.

Dcept: keep destroying

Arbiter051: Good thing using mirror I do that to learn a lot more that way and you imo got the proportions right which I find difficult using mirror. post soon

Jook: HELLO Post soon, pretty please miss your old amount of posts and experimenting.

[Sharon5]

Thanks everyone, I will make a new one when I have time. With better lighting too! (And hopefully eyes that are the right angle. )

Very inspiring work here, thanks everyone for sharing.

[jook]

Oh sweet Jesus this month is slow... I gues I am part of the problem having only put up 2 so far... still though, come on man...



emily g... That is really nice, is it digital or traditional?
Jens... Such nice drawings man... oh so good... I really like the 6/6 one...
wazzo... I really like that last one... Its funny how a lot of peoples work come from a lot of crap in their lives.. Quitting art, pfffft... no.
dCepT... As ugly as that is, its nice to see you playing around.. no better way to learn that program...
Mindflaw... I really like the one you posted before your recent one...
Sharon5... beautiful rendering and I LOVE your choice for a background color...
evolve... that background really took me off gaurd. I like its impact. watch your jawline...
Arbiter051... I like the feeling of movement... especially in the hair. It seems like you cramped up and lost the movement and loosness in your eyes nose and mouth... Keep drawing these self portrait things man...

[Blackhawk]

My laptop screen exploded yesterday, so I'll be doing traditionals on these until it returns with a new screen.

- Jens - Good Jens. Your first one, the eyes seem to flatten your image. I don't know if it's because they are off center or off perspective, but it's slightly noticable.

Your second is good on the bottom half of the face, top of head seems like it ends abruptly though, might want to watch proportions on that one. It's a problem I run into frequently on mine Keep it going man.

- Emily - Thank you. That's why I enjoyed doing these in the first place, they were a visual diary of my development and mood day by day. I believe I've lost touch with it though, I want to desparately get into that creative groove again that I was in two years ago when I did these daily. I still remember that year very fondly, it was a blast.

Good construction on your SP. Watch your nose form though and the shadow on the cheek. Try to incorporate your darkest part of the shadow right as the form turns, then go lighter again, but not by much. It should add a good solid feel to the head, give it some mass.

- Mindflaw - Thanks. What your alignment of your features. Your last one you had one eye off kilter. If you need use construction lines to map out the face. Whatever helps you to nail the proportions, do it. Keep it bud.

- Jook - Nice job trying to tackle the form. The eyes and nose immediately throw me off though. You nose bridge seems way to rigid, might want to incorporate a lighter value into the shadow, help pull it back out a bit and give some much needed volume to the nose. Also watch the eyeshapes. You have a football shape, and then again you don't. Study your eyes carefully, they aren't really football shaped, study how the lids fold over just a sphere, study how the shape of the eyelid changes at certain viewing angles. Work on these spots, your getting there.

- Sharon5 - Get your butt back in here and draw .

- Keyth - Get your butt back in here and draw.

- MindCandyMan - Get your butt back in here and draw.

- Killing.People - Get your butt back in here and draw.






!!EVERYONE NEEDS TO CONTRIBUTE AND !!CRITIQUE!! FROM NOW ON!!

I believe what made this section so great before was the vast amount of comments that EVERYONE gave. Go look at the SP threads from a year, year and a half ago, EVERY POST was full of comments. I've been guilty in the last year of stopping that, well it's done, I'm commenting every post from now on. Critique, comment, get this section engaging and lively again. We need discussions, we need the active sharing of ideas and knowledge between everyone here. Make it exciting to log on everyday and read the critiques and provide your own and your artwork and see everyone else's artwork. Everyone should learn while doing these and have fun.

[Ni*]

right... i'd like this to be a triumphant return to these but.. meh....



blakchawk- nice speach ;-) but true wordsit is great to get feedback, though it can be hard to avoid descending into 'good work.. i like/don't like that one' but those help too so here goes the feedback..

your real media one looks more deliberate and intense that your digital ones, the colour one has a lovely sad feel to it but the swirls look like you got a bit bored with it.

jook-.. just echoing what BH said, watch the eyes, the highlights and stuff are a nice touch but the shape is a bit off, its digital so dont be afraid to re draw then..

emily- lovely tone, and good form, i'd like to see you work into that and add an opposing colour or something.

jens- your punnishment this week is to sit and draw hair!!! skribbling it in really distracts from the nice confident lines in your drawings, and i think you draw your eyes a little high from time to time.

wazzo- nice, i like your almost cartoony style, very confident, and stick with the art, for the sake of us who work to fund it as a hobby....

DcepT- the graphite one is really nice, but the painter one's colours hurt my eyes :-p i'd reccoment the square chalk tool in painter, lets see a nicely rendered on, like the first , done in painter.

mindflaw- the unfinished one is cool, what are you going to do with it? the 4 min sketch is nice too but the first is more accurate i think.

sharon5- that is beautiful, care to talk me through the process? i love the expression and the colours, the eye on the left is a bit off but the painting looks really... honest and that makes me smile.

evolve- heh first time on tablets makes for an odd experience eh? looks like you're making it work though, one thing that helps me with painter or photoshop is using as big a brush as i dare, it helps to prevent sloppy brush strokes, thats the only advice i can give you on digital as i'm still learning too.... your first sp was nice, but it needs some sharpness.

arbiter- super concentration! watch the distance between the features, and i think you made the ridge of the nose too wide, and the mouth is a bit low which adds to the mean look..

kanimator- getting good with that blue pencil. a highlight on the nose would have helped the form come out i think, nice though.

endregan- good to see you back, i like the use of directional stroke to make the shape, it could use a bit more contrast though, it may be the scan but it has gone a bit grey.



phew, thats everyone i think, i smell a good month..

cheers

N

[Mindflaw]

Ok I downloaded artrage and as all can see I am clueless on what technique to paint with to get some good results
and I got all proportions wrong too but practice makes perfect.


How can I paint thin hair? I got thin hair on top of my head (the kind where I look bold in really bright light but not when it´s dark )and thicker on the sides

I´m to tired to try to give you some good crits but comments I`ll do


Sharon5: When you get time???? :huh: I should be asleep two and a half hours ago you got the time just skip a couple of hours of sleep or some telly ok....

Jook: thanks I like it too it´s one of my favorites, glad to see you back.

Blackhawk: yeah the last one sucked but I only spent like four minutes so to be me it´s good I draw very slow, anyway I will start using more helplines. I like how your sp merges into the bg but the eyes seem just a little to close and I like the nose.

Ni* : I keep it like it is since I like it that way and don´t want to ruin it and It´s the one I think with the best proportions of my sp:s.

Lets make this month a great month
goodnight folks

[Blackhawk]

lol, it's because the eyes are too close, I look like I have a cross-eyed munchkin head.

[Sharon5]

Well, I tried to make a new self portrait tonight, but when it was finished(ish) it looked nothing like me. :confused: However, the face on it's own turned out not too bad and I think the eyes look quite a bit like mine. The nose and lips could do with some work to make them look like mine though. I may or may not work on this more. Here's a cut-out and close-up of the face. Looks much better than the full pic, believe me!



Thanks to everyone who mentioned the squint eye in the last picture, I hope they are OK in the new one!

Mindflaw: It's 4:18am here and I will be going to bed very soon as well!

Ni*: Thank you. I love the eyes on your picture, they are very well done. I go through fazes with different brushes in Painter, but at the moment I like to use the Variable Oil Pastel and the Blunt Chalk. I'm still experimenting with all the different brushes, but for the moment I am comfortable with those. I start off with the Variable Oil Pastel brush at a big size and roughly paint in some strokes and call it a background. LOL. It's nice because it can blend as well, but not always. LOL. I put my "face" on with that brush as well and basic shadows/highlights, but I do the details with the Chalk.

Blackhawk: What is that last one made with? I love the nose, but your eyes are scaring me! LOL

jook: Thanks, the room I took the reference photo in had green walls, but it looked horrible in the photo, so I made it a softer colour in my picture and added some blue and let the colours mix.

emily g: Thank you. I'm still learning and usually my faces don't have many shadows as I am too shy with them!

[Ni*]

sharon- if you want to force yourself to work on shadows and values, do a monotone portrait, i'd suggest the square chalk tool. great fun and can be really fast and loose.

ps, just noticed you're in scotland too, where about? i'm near edin. Not alot of us on here...

N

[Sharon5]

Ni*: I'm from Fife. My Square Chalk doesn't seem to be working right, I think I've been messing about with it at some point and I can't get it back to normal. LOL.

[killing.people]

blackhawk: im here, im here.
comments to come, im late for class.

[jetpack42]

Blackhawk, I'll try and help you keep it real in here...Your SP's are sooo good, very inspired tonight.

[D.O.Jones]

Jetpack: looks good to me, the scribbley lines at the base of the neck don't seem to fit in well though. They kinda flatten it a bit.

killing: The coulours look great. But maybe the values are to flat. It feels like there should be more of a core shadow somewhere.

Sharon: I think theres a 'restore default variant' option for the brushes somewhere. uh.. I can't think of anything to say for your portrait, looks good though/

Mindflaw: I would say don't worry too much about painting yet. Just keep working on the drawing, proportion and stuff. It might not be as fun but it pays off.

Outta time for more comments, They're propably not very useful anyway.