Thumbnail Help

[Ayem]

I was going to attempt to fix this up, but I think it's too flawed. I started again with more consideration into contrast, (my weak point), and composition. Though these are probably still pretty crumby anyway.



I think my favourite is the one in perspective. I feel that I could definitely push them all further, but I have no idea how to.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I'll try to get back into the groove of CA and help with critiquing others, too.

(I always feel bad posting here, 'cause I'm really not sure what's acceptable. I kind of wanted to have input the whole way through this picture, so you all could guide me in the right direction. If that's not cool, just say.)

[bevis]

I really like the low contrast ?

I like the one where the gryphon is walking side on with the lanterns.
I wouldn't push those any further personally. If u want to you can do a color study, over the thumb, still rough. But from there I would just blow the thumb up and start painting ?

Good work !

Edit: Actually the curtain behind him could be a lot darker, other than that its sweet ! And btw raptors only have big crops like that after they have eaten, stomach sack thing in their thought. Dunno if you knew that! Peace!

[Ayem]

I've always liked low contrast myself, but I can see the downfalls of that.
And, big crops?

Thanks, too!

[Lhune]

I don't know, I really like the first thumb. It's a tricky perspective but an interesting one at that, although I would probably make it so that the lanterns aren't in front of the gryphon.

I have to second bevis though, I think the subdued contrast actually works quite well for the image. It creates a soft/warm atmosphere and since the contrast is highest on the gryphon itself you don't need more of it for the focus or anything.

[Ayem]

The thing with the lanterns being over the top of the griffin is I want the picture to be very cramped. Does that change anything?

I was under the impression that the previous picture was far too dull. Not that I really know. But I can see the appeal of making it more warm. (Man, contrast confuses me.)

[yoyo1199]

great colors, the lanterns are so pretty
i think your original painting is just fine,but could be better if the size of the griffin is larger and overlaps a bit of the lanterns from behind,and darken the core shadows =)
that's just my opinion,but if you wanted to start all over, sure choices is up to you.

[Lhune]

Ah, well if your intention is to make it cramped then yes, I would leave it on top of him (because the cramped look was basically my point of critique).

I didn't think it was dull . The only thing you could have improved, I think, was the light and reflections of the lanterns (they could have been a little brighter), but overall it gave the impression that outside is really bright, so any light inside will seem subdued, it felt quite natural and suits the style.

If you're unsure about the thumbnails I'd say just make a couple more, until you find one that you're enthusiastic about. I mean, we could choose one for you but if you don't feel it conveys what you're going for (or if you're not happy enough with the way it looks) then it would be better if you first continued to develop the concept for yourself .

[ebonysmith]

I like the one you've already done and out of the thumbnails, the far right one that is similar to the one you've aready done animals chilling is always a nice picture. If you wanted to keep the oyad then i'd just give him less of a chest on the white feathers and give it really nice delicate detail on the feathers in the light.

[Ayem]

Lhune: Haha, yeah. I want him to be this big massive griffin in this tiny cramped tent. Maybe I could push that cramped look more so it looks intentional.

Thanks, too. Shall do some more 'nails.

ebonysmith: I definitely don't feel much for the old one... it just feels so, flat. But the newer one I'm cooler with. I agree, animals chilling is such a cool thing to draw.

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So really, it's a vote for each so far. XD I suppose I'll have to do one that really knocks them all out of the water.

[bevis]

The lump in the throat is the crop full of food, as far as I kw that's where all the feathers and hair the bird has eaten gets separated from the meat, then the bird throws up (like a hair ball), called a cast, the next day.

[lemming-clone-]

Oooh this painting is really cool. I love the dangly lanterns behind him. The patterning and colors are great. There is something slightly unsettling or unbalanced about the composition though. The griffon and lanterns are all kind of occupying the same plane of space it seems. Also, the placement of the lanterns seems slightly off to me. I think if you try shuffling them around a bit, it would really help to balance it and make the composition flow nicely.
I would try re-arranging some of the lanterns on the right: Maybe putting the orange on on the far right behind all of them and moving it diagonally left and up and then moving the two cool colored ones right a bit? I can't exactly pinpoint what it is, but I would play with it a little. Can't wait to see it finished!

[Ayem]

lemming-clone-

Thanks, and, yeah. The composition is sucky. That's why I'm redoing it.