Samus and others.

[Barefoot]

I just googled Samus because my friend didn't believe she was a girl, pretty much every picture was perverted fan art, either her in a ripped up suit or in an erotic position! I was outraged that my favourite childhood video game character has been disgraced! Is nothing sacred any more? It's the same with every female character, you cant google wonder woman or cat woman without some pervy nerd flashing scenes from his wet dreams in your face! you don't get the same thing with male characters, you don't google bat man and get a ton of pictures with him with a huge boner!

dont say rule 34, whatever you do :'(

[TinyBird]

Welcome to the world of women?
I'm afraid that it has lots to do with http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...WritersAreMale though you can replace the "writer" with "fans". I mean, finding pics of batman with huge boners isn't that hard, but...

[Demo]

You kidding, lets take a think about this for a sec, Japanese female protagonist, weird tenticulie?? alien monster is the baddie, Did I mention Japanese designed female protagonist....and really the first 100 or so images from Google really are not provocative past that yes it starts getting worse but i mean with places like deviant art, 4chan, and the few details I have mentioned what did you really expect??????

[Mossi]

OMG!! They're objectifing women now ?!?!?

Kids these days.

[TinyBird]

I was outraged that my favourite childhood video game character has been disgraced! Is nothing sacred any more?

And well, it's not like Nintendo hasn't been cashing in with this for some time now, I mean do you think it's just a coincidence that Zero Suit Samus was available in Super Smash Bros Brawl? They do know what audience they want to target with this.

[Pigeonkill]

you don't get the same thing with male characters, you don't google bat man and get a ton of pictures with him with a huge boner!

dont say rule 34, whatever you do :'(

......I think both side can have their fair share of weird stuff.

[Elwell]

you don't google bat man and get a ton of pictures with him with a huge boner!
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Oh yes you do!(Absolutely work safe link, really)

[Elwell]

This would probably be a good place to mention the Pose Like Wonder Woman meme (and it's predecessors here and here).

[vineris]

A couple suggestions:

- turn Safe Search back on.
- DON'T search for "gay batman and robin"

[Ilaekae]

...and don't ever search for "cucumber" with safe search off...

[CLANLESS]

This is relevant; http://rosalarian.tumblr.com/tagged/costumes (Elwell got to it first).

A lot of heroine fanarts are sexualized, but most erotic fanfictions are written by girls about male characters. So, it is not only heroines who are being sexualized. There is nothing inherently wrong with sexualization, but it does say something when it's usually women who are being sexualized by the original artists themselves (in case of Zero Samus Suit). Assuming that the industry is still dominated by straight men, I cannot blame them. This may change in the future though as women take hold. Perhaps male superheroes will become the ones sexualized then.

I like sexy heroines, but I honestly would not mind being saved by something like these either;




I searched cucumber with safe search off. I see nothing wrong there. I even found a new recipe?

[blogmatix]

...and don't ever search for "cucumber" with safe search off...

A friend of mine once needed a picture of a beaver for some or other graphic art project, and found that without safe search, he had quite a struggle getting hold of any pictures of aquatic rodents... ;-)

I notice though that Google has fixed this glitch; even with safe search off, when you search for a beaver you get the kind of beaver a kid would expect. ;-)

[TinyBird]

Also, this article http://gamecareerguide.com/features/...eo_.php?page=1 might be worth of interest even if it doesn't concentrate as much on the fan-porn that's drawn of the female characters, except for this bit:

In a popular re-imaging of the box art of the game Mirror's Edge by a Korean fan, the protagonist has a considerably larger chest size, sports a new hairstyle, and her entire facial structure has been altered "to suit the East Asian standard of beauty." According to a kotaku.com article (Ashcraft, 2008), the producer of the game was unpleased with the character's new look.

"I remember when I first had that image sent to me. To be honest, I found it kind of sad. We've spent time in developing Faith. And the important thing for us was that she was human, that she was more real.
We really wanted to get away from the typical portrayal of women in games, that they're all just kind of tits and ass in a steel bikini. We wanted her to look athletic and fit and strong [enough] that she could do the things that she's doing.
We wanted her to be attractive, but we didn't want her to be a supermodel. We wanted her to be approachable and far more real. It was just kind of depressing that someone thinks it would be better if Faith was a 12-year-old with a boob job. That was kind of what that image looked to me."

Her formerly strong, angry gaze was replaced with large, almost frightened eyes, and her chin was narrowed and her jaw softened, to make her appear more feminine. What was before an unusual face with striking features was altered to resemble the generic, stereotypically attractive look of a common anime character.

(The image is in page 2 of the article)

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[JFierce]

It's rule34, there's no gender to it. Samus, Batman, Pokemon, a god damn toaster. It will raep your childhood over and over even when you think your safe.

[Black Spot]

This is always a welcome for a second visit. http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/114588.html

[Barefoot]

I suppose I should have seen it coming but I had honestly never thought about Samus in that way, lol.
Bloody internet!!

[JFierce]

Black Spot the irony of that is there are entire comic genre's that do just that on the opposite end. They've been around for 30-40+ years lol.



While it certainly doesn't happen as often I'm not arguing that, definitely not in the west. There's still genre's dedicated to the young females personification of a guy as well, where they all sparkle and are beauuuuutifuuuullll. Not exactly realistic either.

Both are pretty screwed up though on both sides.

[Zephyrion]

Welcome to the internet.

[TinyBird]

There's still genre's dedicated to the young females personification of a guy as well, where they all sparkle and are beauuuuutifuuuullll. Not exactly realistic either.

Well, there's also the "bara" genre which is basically same with hypermasculine largely endowed guys (think "Tom of Finland" style) which tend to be favored by homosexual men. And okay, it's pretty safe to say that any sort of idealization isn't very realistic.

[Eldritch]

While it certainly doesn't happen as often I'm not arguing that, definitely not in the west. There's still genre's dedicated to the young females personification of a guy as well, where they all sparkle and are beauuuuutifuuuullll. Not exactly realistic either.

A comic is cartoony and unrealistic? Preposterous.

[tobbA]

Also, this article http://gamecareerguide.com/features/...eo_.php?page=1

Ok...



So in what way does the men in this picture "enjoy a wide range of body types, ages, and personalities"?

I mean, ok. They go from super mega buffed to hyper super duper mega buffed. I bet if the designers could give the women huge muscles without making them look like freaks of nature (as if the guys don't allready) I bet they would...

I find these kinds of comparisons really stupid because everyone seems to assume that the same ideals of beauty applies to both men and women. Of course you don't have male super heroes running around in really revealing outfits. They're basically naked in their spandex outfits anyway.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem with objectification of women in general, but can't people at least try to be realistic about it?

[TinyBird]

So in what way does the men in this picture "enjoy a wide range of body types, ages, and personalities"?

I mean, ok. They go from super mega buffed to hyper super duper mega buffed. I bet if the designers could give the women huge muscles without making them look like freaks of nature (as if the guys don't allready) I bet they would...

Well, lets give another comparison...
Women of Street Fighter


Men of Street Fighter







I fail to see why having another freak of nature would be that bad, even if it would be a woman. Seriously, I know that's not all of the SF women but honestly the rest of them aren't different. And I know I chose the dudes from the "freak roster" but at least that exists for the male characters. I mean... there's even old guys.

And double seriously, if the entire concept art team of Capcom fails to design a female character that's not generically pretty and nonmuscular (they don't even have to be hypermuscular like the guys) without making her look like a freak of nature even though movies, comics, games and real life manages to do it... I think you could fire all of them for failing so hard.
So yeah, I'm fairly certain this isn't "the artists can't design it" problem here.

Of course you don't have male super heroes running around in really revealing outfits. They're basically naked in their spandex outfits anyway.

So obviously it makes sense to have a female character in spandex that also has huge holes cut to it so that it's even more revealing?

[Psychotime]

Isn't Elena supposed to be African?

[TinyBird]

Isn't Elena supposed to be African?

Yup, Kenyan in fact. But she's more Ambiguously Brown.

[Orunitier]

What does that have to do with anything?

[TinyBird]

What does that have to do with anything?

Probably that a Kenyan tribeswoman looks exactly the same as all the other women except with a slight tan, because I guess it would be a shame for a woman to actually look anything like their race. Which of course isn't as big of a problem with guys apparently, considering Balrog (the boxer guy).

[Orunitier]

Well, at least she doesn't look like a golliwog. I don't understand how race is a factor to the characters being scantily clad.

[TinyBird]

Well, at least she doesn't look like a golliwog. I don't understand how race is a factor to the characters being scantily clad.

It doesn't, but the dissonance between the male and female designs, not just in clothes, doesn't imply anything good. As in, the male characters sport a variety body types and looks, and in best cases actually are recognizable as the race they are or close (like for example, Balrog doesn't look just like re-coloured Guile) but the women, despite their race look exactly the same (American, Chinese, Japanese, African, Saudi-Arabian, they all look the same) which also kinda ties in with the article tobbA quoted.

[JFierce]

It's not fun but Street Fighter is sadly just playing towards its fan base. Never met a single female who plays SF regularly. I know about 20-30 guys off the top of my head that play the game religiously. Buying every update, any new content.
It's definitely not a good thing that they go along with the stereotypes but they're just creating what sells sadly.


Though honestly if they created some 'odd' and different female characters that have a good concept I think they'd do just fine. I mean obviously not everyone who plays is going for aesthetics, otherwise you wouldn't be playing as someone like Rufus or Honda.



That and they reaaaaally need to vary up the facial structures for the women characters like its been said already.