artist getting a girlfriend/boyfriend (through art)

[MatthewHD]

That's not what I'm saying. I AM happy most of the time, unless this little thing (the "forever alone" feeling) pops back up and then I go back to being unhappy until I become distracted again. The point is, even when I'm happy this thing is still there buried somewhere and it's not going to go away until it's actually resolved.

Don't worry, you're not alone. At least you'll be independent, and have no obligations.


Though, it would be nice to have a sandwich maker around...

[Naidy]

Though, it would be nice to have a sandwich maker around...

And the moment this was uttered, about half the world's population suddenly finds you less attractive. ;P

[MatthewHD]

And the moment this was uttered, about half the world's population suddenly finds you less attractive. ;P

Not so much mayo on mine, please.

[Arshes Nei]

Not so much mayo on mine, please.

Thank you Ron Jeremy.

[OmenSpirits]

Thank you Ron Jeremy.

At least he can suck his own....

[Naidy]

A skill he will no doubt need with the direction he's going.

Ahh I'm kiddin', being compared to Ron Jeremy is harsh by anyone's standards. xD

[OldJake666]

Hmm... I don't know, are you the attentive kind of guy? Or, how picky are you when it comes to finding the one?

Girls talk about how guys tend to be incredibly dense at times. I have this close guy friend, and whenever the topic of our conversations go to this theme, he always tells me how difficult it is to find the right one, how it's impossible to meet people etc. etc. What he doesn't know actually is that there are a bunch of girls who like him. One day I just took him aside, and just told him, look, pay attention ok? Look around, there are people out there trying to get to know you that way. You are not undesirable, just picky.

Of course, I'm not saying this applies to all guys, but it might just be something you're overlooking. I'm not too sure how it is with the western culture, but where I come from, there's this trend that guys find someone they like, someone they're attracted to, and then they sort of move in on that girl with a "she's the one" mindset. Which isn't that bad actually, but then in this case it's mostly a matter of putting your best foot forward and trying to win her over with that (this applies to girls as well actually). I think most people would agree that it's always nicer when something more develops from friendship. That way, both parties would most likely already know or see the best and the worst of each other, and then later on they can decide if the other person brings out the best in them, in which case it would be good to maybe try ond push things towards the more romantic direction.

Anyway, my two cents.

This might have been the case in high school but I'm not sure about now. I just don't think I know enough girls for that to be the case.

[MatthewHD]

At least he can suck his own....

I also own two Shakeweights.

[OmenSpirits]

I also own two Shakeweights.

Gotta have the proper grip.

[vineris]

Though, it would be nice to have a sandwich maker around...

They're only twenty bucks on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Miallegro-2020...019802&sr=1-12

I know some of you guys are like little baby birds and all but they're not all that difficult to find. Five seconds on Google would have done the trick.

Maybe you can also get Amazon to give you a combo deal on a dishwasher and foot massager:

http://www.amazon.com/Haier-HDC1804T...6020283&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Soothera-Woode...6020364&sr=8-3

I hope that was useful.

[Rivenis]

This has been a really fun and educational thread. And for those lonely guys out there i gotta say i can relate. If you're not good with all the social graces and cues like too many artists are then its always really hard to meet someone. Even if you do meet them the chances of them being someone you can connect with are exceedingly low. I live in Barbados where being different in anyway is regarded as a big no no. Growing up you wouldn't believe the kind of schemes me and my best friend would concoct to meet our dream women (as artists we couldn't help but craft them with our imaginations :p) The big problem though was our complete lack of understanding when it came not only to the opposite sex but humans as a whole. An artist is by nature usually a very introspective individual. They live in their own world that may not share too many similarities with the so-called "real world".

Unfortunately there's no course you can take in 'understanding humans' Some people just get it and others need massive amounts of help coupled with luck. (massive amounts of that too) My biggest problem with the cold approach (hitting on strangers) is that you can tell hardly anything about a woman's personality by looking at her. Among the women here there is a high propensity for what i'd consider negative personality traits: Things like shallowness, lack of intelligence, dishonesty, sluttiness etc. Every girl i might approach has a high possibility of falling into these categories, and even the ones who don't might just not mesh with my personality. (the biggest problem since i don't connect with very many people, at least in my younger days)

Long story short its hard to build up the momentous amount of courage and initiative it requires for such low odds. Its just plain exhausting and disheartening. Thank god for social networking sites. Without that i would never meet anyone. (i'm a total shut in)

So i guess what i'm saying is that cold approaching (unless you see someone that really strikes you and you must talk to her) in general is just a really bad way to try and meet someone. I can't say i have had all negative results with this (i seem to get charming moods from time to time) Its just way too stressful. Getting a circle of friends is definitely the most surefire approach. Increasing your web of friends increases the amount of people you know which of course increases your odds of meeting that special someone.

Also getting the female perspective has been a real eye opener. I knew you guys had a lot to worry about but this thread has really made it seem more real. Guys here love to make cat calling noises at passing women. And i find myself wondering what on earth they expect to get from that. No self respecting woman would respond positively to that. It also makes me so angry and ashamed to share a gender with people who act like that.
Okay i'm gonna shut up now. Great thread guys!

[nim]

man I don't even have time to read this thread anymore but I'm glad I started it xDDD after I did new is that I'll be starting a ceramics course at an art school with dormatory houses (+++) this fall and at the interview I socialised with more new girls than I have in like.. eh well I can't remember!! omgz... why do guys even go for engineering and entertainment industry artistry lol no just kidding, will still do cg and ca but not seeing a single game company in sweden doing anything but battlefields franchise like games (sick of real world misery imitation) I'm taking a break and I'm conceiting myself I can get a gf with good hopes! well.. offtopic as topic is "single guys(/girls) rant thread" like in densha otoko I guess but anyways.. I'll be one of 3 guys I thought the teacher said... prospects x) no really I do have a personality so I don't want attention only because I'm one of only few guys though x) hoping for potential gf of also a bit older age than typical prep art school goers. one of the girls I talked to was really cute to my kind of type and nice and sang as she worked.. beautifully! x0 making music I'd stab my leg to have her be vocalist xD maybe if I sculpt her... omgz... but problem will be that I won't want a gf who gets into me because I have talent.. that's actually the last I want... that's more like a fangirl... but she didn't even comment on my pretty neat drawing I was making as we talked so I was very releaved. as much as I love ca feedback from other artists it's always awkward with the real life "wow you draw good" from people in general as it's not that they're into what I draw but just feel they kneejerkingly need to react to seeing an artist or something. (tell me you feel the same or I'd feel arrogant)

she was really relaxed and cool while not the distanced intellectual type omgz. hope I'll like her personality and that she won't be like 5 years younger...

but who am I kidding... I'm no looker... all I've got going is that I'm dumb-nice and talented x( she's probably not an otaku or even geeky...

getting ahead of myself.. there will be so many fish in that lake.. lol this post is despicable to this thread xD

no but something constructive: a one year prep art school course at a typical for opposite sex education that you would also enjoy yourself why didn't I think of that before while being miserably lonely for years??

I've already had my higher education life in an all same sex environment where mainly focusing on education so I can take this stuff now afterwards instead of before... and seriously... I'm sick of war games... sweden won't make Icos or Katamari Damacies for a decade, I'd love to sell real life sculpted busts to rich people lol x) while being freelance ca artist at the same time.

ah enough giving-nothing-to-reader post posting.

good luck all romantically challenged ca geeks! hope I'll be having it =3

[Flashback]

I like this thread! It went from advisement to rape to sandwich making.

Anyway, make a proper sandwich you need this:
http://www.google.com/products/catal...w=822&bih=914#

Toaster ovens are awesome!

[nim]

ahh.. melted cheese sandwitches with oregano... well I prefer this!
http://images.google.se/imgres?imgur...w=1179&bih=663

[Jason Rainville]

Go nim go

All I can say is don't ever really "fixate" on anyone. Pursue if you want to of course ,just try not to set yourself up for a big fall by thinking too much.

As for not being a looker; one of my friends in school was sort of a goofy-looking tall guy, but he was funny and acted cool and relaxed and he had lots of friends and a really cute girlfriend. Just be relaxed and fun to be with (funny but not annoying) and you should be on good footing socially.

[nim]

Jason Rainville: thanks! (btw cool surname!)

[Wooly ESS]

Don't worry about being a "looker"

Recent studies have indicated that much of the human race has some Neanderthal DNA in their genetic makeup.

If a Neanderthal can get laid, then there's hope for the rest of us!

[nim]

Don't worry about being a "looker"

Recent studies have indicated that much of the human race has some Neanderthal DNA in their genetic makeup.

If a Neanderthal can get laid, then there's hope for the rest of us!

lol this is like motivational poster material...

[Mirana]

My biggest problem with the cold approach (hitting on strangers) is that you can tell hardly anything about a woman's personality by looking at her. Among the women here there is a high propensity for what i'd consider negative personality traits: Things like shallowness, lack of intelligence, dishonesty, sluttiness etc. Every girl i might approach has a high possibility of falling into these categories

If you can't tell their personality by looking, and you haven't approached them, how do you know "there is a high propensity for [...] negative personality traits: Things like shallowness, lack of intelligence, dishonesty, sluttiness"?????????

A LOT of guys judge a woman's personality, sexual habits and intelligence by what they look like or wear. And they're very, very wrong. Then why do they consider WOMEN to be "shallow" for supposedly not looking past exteriors and chatting them up?

Mysteries of the universe.

[p sage]

lol this post is despicable to this thread xD

LOL! You're all over the map, man... and funny... a good trait. Good luck on finding a cool chick.

[Darkmoon]

I must be from a totally different planet, because in what galaxy has "Hi, I don't mean to creep you out, but I noticed you from back there and thought you have an interesting face. I would really like to draw you sometime, would that be something you are up for?" become so intimidating that 3 women so far (at least I assume you were women) would prefer the "draw me then and there" option?

How you jump from drawing to rape is beyond me. I mean you do have a mouth to actually speak your doubts, right? You do know how to say "Sure, but tell me something more about yourself before I go anywhere with a stranger".
Is it really that hard for women to stop listening to what is not being said and let that silence be filled with their own doubts?

this: Runs along the lines of "your pretty, i want to get you alone" creepy factor. heard of women being offered modeling type stuff then show up to be asked to take their clthes off. some women equate these two :i want to draw you... alone... "

thats just what i get from it...

[nim]

If you can't tell their personality by looking, and you haven't approached them, how do you know "there is a high propensity for [...] negative personality traits: Things like shallowness, lack of intelligence, dishonesty, sluttiness"?????????

A LOT of guys judge a woman's personality, sexual habits and intelligence by what they look like or wear. And they're very, very wrong. Then why do they consider WOMEN to be "shallow" for supposedly not looking past exteriors and chatting them up?

Mysteries of the universe.

word. the female side of me reacted to that. (or I'm jesting, it was my aspie knack of discerning contradictions but I'd like a feminine side so pretend for me)

no but what I don't get is the western idea of judging a person so bloody quickly.. I mean even a month isn't enough and for some persons or some relations or some situations a year might be required to determine if a person is shallow or just has had bad experiences and doesn't want to share A, B, D and F facets of themselves.

if I weren't sort of desperate I'd be like I was a few years ago and hide all my art, hide my assburgers syndrome selfaware attitude, and other traits I won't mention here so I can totally relate to that sort of maneuver and see how it would affect how others would view a person who wasn't already too much of an oddball (me) to "become shallow" by reservation.

not speaking of damaged girls (or guys) who belong on wristcuttercommunities rather speaking of a clarified trait that can be to some degree inherent in everyone.

and moreover even apart from that issue there are a handful other factors to why being able to judge a person in a passing-by-sort-of-time-frame is just a ridiculous idea.

so while having aversions to traits you seem to see in certain people is also unavoidable if you're normal I guess.. in the western world (or I may be kidding myself thinking it's not the same everywhere) we're a lot more lonely than we'd have to be if people just wouldn't judge.. or heck forget that strong word... assess/think-they've-gotten-to-know each other so quickly. doesn't it go both ways right back at you when you sit there and wonder if you should approach that girl that actually seems just right and free of those shallow/slutty/etc traits and in your head slightly out of your league?

heck I'm trying to not believe that I know my childhood friends all too well.

so at the same time as I'd say go for it I'd say go for it with patience and don't fire the bullet right away but keep the person in the aim for a long time and accept that you can't browse girls/guys successfully even though we do that all the time...

[Darkmoon]

word. the female side of me reacted to that. (or I'm jesting, it was my aspie knack of discerning contradictions but I'd like a feminine side so pretend for me)

no but what I don't get is the western idea of judging a person so bloody quickly.. I mean even a month isn't enough and for some persons or some relations or some situations a year might be required to determine if a person is shallow or just has had bad experiences and doesn't want to share A, B, D and F facets of themselves.

if I weren't sort of desperate I'd be like I was a few years ago and hide all my art, hide my assburgers syndrome selfaware attitude, and other traits I won't mention here so I can totally relate to that sort of maneuver and see how it would affect how others would view a person who wasn't already too much of an oddball (me) to "become shallow" by reservation.

not speaking of damaged girls (or guys) who belong on wristcuttercommunities rather speaking of a clarified trait that can be to some degree inherent in everyone.

but first impressions or what some refer to as the "spark" are needed, i think its said within 2 minutes of meeting a guy, a woman has decided if they are father material, a good lay, or friend zone or just plain repulsive.

ive had very good friends "fall in love" with me after ive established clear only interested in friendship rules...

on a side note: girls, great was to pick up men i found out yesteday. Sword fighting in the park... they flock...

[nim]

on a side note: girls, great was to pick up men i found out yesteday. Sword fighting in the park... they flock... ;)

the logic of that sentence reads like a haiku in my head. what does it mean in non-yoda grammar? xD *rude*

EDIT: oh sword fighting in the park is a great way to pick up men for girls? you mean litterally sword fighting?? I wonder what the equivalent reverse-chauvinistic version would be for men? waterslide-sliding in dorky patterned bathingtangas?... probably not...

[Darkmoon]

the logic of that sentence reads like a haiku in my head. what does it mean in non-yoda grammar? xD *rude*

It means basically, I was in the park yesterday practicing sword fighting with a few friends and every 15 minutes or so some random guy would come up, introduce himself and watch us sword fight... for 4 hours.... or join in and get beat up

[nim]

It means basically, I was in the park yesterday practicing sword fighting with a few friends and every 15 minutes or so some random guy would come up, introduce himself and watch us sword fight... for 4 hours.... or join in and get beat up

epic!

[p sage]

It means basically, I was in the park yesterday practicing sword fighting with a few friends and every 15 minutes or so some random guy would come up, introduce himself and watch us sword fight... for 4 hours.... or join in and get beat up

I think he got tripped up over the misspelling. I did too.

great was to pick up men

[Darkmoon]

I think he got tripped up over the misspelling. I did too.

great was to pick up men

I think you are right as I am horrible at spelling and dont use spellcheck.

I suppose drawing in the park might get the same results... or buy a puppy... rent a kid?

or.... well, being in ottawa, we have the tulip festival, so I was painting tulips, this might work as a contrast to the sword fighting? but also might result in fangirls...

[Mirana]

LOL! "Buy a puppy"! That tends to work for both sexes. Not just as a conversation starter/excuse for an approach, but for women...maybe "if he can keep a puppy he must not be a serial killer, because we all know THOSE guys kill small animals!" ;D

[Flake]

LOL! if he can keep a puppy he must not be a serial killer, because we all know THOSE guys kill small animals!" ;D

Maybe they're starting small then working their way up.

The puppies are a practice run.

A deliciously small, pliable and squeaky practice run..