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You mean the kind of executive experience where she had to hire an executive assistant to do her job as the mayor of a town of 5500 people?Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091302596.html
And I say, forget about Ron Paul, we want Ru Paul.
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if Sarah Palin becomes the president of the United States of America we would all be fucked, she would probably nuke Russia, take back Georgia thinking its an american state that the Russians stole.. then invade France because they didnt support out invasion of Iraq.
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I have definitely noticed this as well. Most of their programs nowadays are complete skeptical crap (UFO hunters, Mysteryquest, Monsterquest, etc). I've noticed a bunch of programs attempting to reach out to the Christian population by attempting to apply science to biblical stories and myths and shit. It's annoying as fuck.
The only worthwhile show I've seen on history in a while is The Universe. Why is that even on the history channel? lol.
EDIT: I wrote all of this before I even read Rabbi Satan's post... Glad to see lot sof people are seeing the same thing as me.
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That's why they do it. To annoy you.
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Spin it any way you want it - she had more executive experience than any of them. While Obama, McCain, and Clinton were senators, she was overseeing an entire state.
All this talk of her attacking Russia and and other such nonsense is pure ideological delusion. I'm not a fan of hers per se, but people need to get a grip.
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"All this talk of her attacking Russia and and other such nonsense is pure ideological delusion."
Agree. We can only thank the Goddess that she hasn't been accused of being a Muslim, a Socialist/communist, too intelligent, or not born in the US...that would be too low even for US politics...
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...a state with 19 people in it, and how well was she overseeing that state when she had to resign due to the filing of ethics complaints as for a while there her teenage daughter's baby's daddy was on Entertainment Tonight as often as she was on the Glenn Beck show. If quitting on your state while your family becomes an internationally televised circus (a forum she's hardly shied away from) ...if that constitutes more executive experience than someone who left his 12 years in the state senate due to being elected to the US Senate which he in turn left to become the Fucking President Of The Country...
I forget what I was saying but Palin has more place next to Kate Goselin on Dancing With the Stars than being anywhere near Congress or The White House.
Sorry for the cheap indignation... I know it's an easy rant to make, but seriously...
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The amount of hate in this thread is astounding.
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Talk about "spinning it any way you want". Running the 4th smallest state in terms of population size and the smallest in population density with 65% of the land owned and managed by government much of which are national parks and wildlife refuges hardly gives her "executive experience" especially since QUITTING after less than 2 years.
So uh yeah, you can claim she has "more executive experience" but she couldn't even handle Alaska, you expect people to believe she can run the nation?
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Seriously.. The size of the state matters? It's not big enough to count? What exactly is your minimum threshold of population for it "count" when her competitors had no experience at all? How many state and local branches of government did her competition oversee? zero.. nada.. zilch. How many budgets did they have to run? None. See that's the whole point - I don't care if someone is the governor of 100 people.. they still would have more experience being an executive than McCain or Obama or Hilary. She was also a mayor for 6 years.. again more experience dealing with running a government agency that any of her competitors.
You can argue that real world experience doing a job doesn't matter.. if that's your argument, go for it. Next time you go for a concept job interview with a big company and your boss asks you if you have any on the job experience, just tell them "yes I do, but it doesn't matter. Please don't count that in my favor. It was only a small company and I left after 8 years to make way more money. So that time learning the ropes doesn't matter at all. Please hire some other guy with no experience in drawing but 12 years as a 3D artist from a top flight school." Once you put it that way.. yea the 3D guy sounds better than you.
It's fine if you don't like her for her views or policies, but don't try and argue she wasn't more experienced dealing with the kind of tasks and responsibilities that presidents do than anyone else in the final race. Again.. I'm not a fan of hers, so I find it annoying that I have to defend her like this but fair is fair, and pretending as if she were no more prepared to govern than a bum off the street is pathetic. Like I said, I'm no fan of Obama or Bush but when people demonize them and compare them to nazis or Hitler or whatever I have to speak up because those people those are letting their ideological passions cloud all sense of reason. When people refuse to accept ANY good traits a candidate has, or disregard and belittle their accomplishments no matter what, they look like immature fools.
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Yes, the size of the state matters, as well as the economy of that state. Imagine the difference in managing New York or California. Logistical issues grow in complexity as population grows, and as disparities between people increase. Alaska is not only small, but homogenous. Quitting a typical job for more money is normal. Quitting on an elected position to make more money is a scandal. Especially, although not so much in Palin's case, if you show political favoratism to people who give you that fancy job afterwards.
If Sarah Palin were president, she wouldn't invade France. Remember people, the best humor is based on the truth. George Carlin said that. What'd really happen would be a spat between her and her GOP puppet masters. She doesn't just want to be a face of the party with no say in the matter. But she has no ideas of her own to counter it. So she'd be stuck in a role she'd hate, and we'd all just watch her turn grey and fat really fast, while parroting the usual "less taxes, government bad, code orange, gays bad, atheists bad, war good, church good, etc." Then, if she could last four years, she'd be so unpopular she wouldn't run for re-election, and she'd gripe about it the rest of her life to anyone willing to listen, about how both parties are fucked up. It's the only part she'd be right about, but no one would want to listen. The irony.
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LOL.. yup that sums it up pretty well. 1/2 the country would be pissed off, 1/2 would be happy. Just like now. I'd give you reps for that post if this forum had them. .
In a way, if this country wasn't split so evenly things would be so much simpler.. and less fun to watch.
That's one of the problems with a third party candidate - even if the people are behind you, you still have twice the enemies on Capital Hill. The established Dems and Republicans would do everything in their power to bring you down at all costs. As it stands now, either candidate gets cover and support from roughly 1/2 of the money and power in Washington.
Now, as for her being on cable TV doing nature shows.. better there than running for president, which I really really hope she doesn't do.
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If half the country is always pissed and half is always happy no matter who's in office then how the hell do people get elected by majority? At some point over half had to support the candidate.
What we have is very loud minorities. Minorities who have friends in media-outlets who want to play up their own numbers and/or play down the opponent's size. I would like to see a scientific poll on where people stand right now in terms of their political ideas.
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Look at the popular vote - it has been very very close for the past decade or more:
In 2008: 52.9% vs 45.7%
2004: 50.7% vs 48.3%
2000: 47.9% vs 48.4%
So while there is always a technical majority, in any given election roughly 1/2 the population is going to be somewhat unhappy. Naturally other social factors like jobless rates, deficits and war play a big part. If the economy is strong people are more forgiving even if they disagree ideologically.
If we had a situation where guys won by 70-75+% or more things would probably go smoother since that means a strong, clear majority of people wanted that person to be there. That's not going to happen in the current political climate, but that's what I meant by things being easier. Less drama, less social friction, less attention to people at each other's throats marching with Hitler signs and nooses (that goes for Tea Party and Left rallies both. I have pics of signs from both right and left rallies and they are equally hateful, stupid, vile, racist, and counter-productive)
If you are bored, check out http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/ which aggregates all the major polls (Rasmussen, Gallop etc). Right now Obama's National Job Approval averages out to Approve: 48% to Disapprove 47.7% LOL..
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I think the more disturbing trend in the US, somewhat broken in the most recent election, is the extremely low voting turnout in the United States.
low voting turnout in democracies is always troubling, moreso the more powerful the democracy is on the world stage.
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"I think the more disturbing trend in the US, somewhat broken in the most recent election, is the extremely low voting turnout in the United States.
low voting turnout in democracies is always troubling, moreso the more powerful the democracy is on the world stage."
Complete agreement. We've become a country that's full of people who would rather scream about something that matters only to them than do something constructive for the entire population, and voting is one of the constructive things you can do. If you need proof, just look at the number of militia groups, anti-government groups, and religious bigots who don't vote at all or only when they know they'll win. The time-honored system (even one of our recent Supreme Court Chief Justices did it...) of excluding minorities from elections to insure the majority stays in power is another example of this.
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The last two elections have seen a reversal of that trend, at least from what I remember.
"In a way, if this country wasn't split so evenly things would be so much simpler.. and less fun to watch."
It's simple enough to do. Expell Texas from the Union.
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Hey now, don't throw out the baby with the bath water! Austin is still salvageable.
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As what? A big CW theatre?
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I've got a great cousin from Austin, I love her to death and all, but come on. Look at the representatives in our Congress, look at how they vote. Just axe the damn state and be done with it. Let 'em be conservative on their own. We'd be soooo much more liberal if not for them. We could abolish the death penalty, address illegal immigration intelligently, no more Bush Jr.'s.... Who knows what else.
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Austin is a blue island in a sea of red.
...is not taking this seriously at all
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Sarah Palin. Nature. By any chance, is she going to be flying around in a helicopter and using a flamethrower to set fire to specially-imported polar bears? 'Cause I'd totally pay to see that.
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...and she can see the moon from her porch in Alaska.
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