andres333: Thanks! That helped a lot. I participated at Spartan Camp exercise # 142.
If you want to see good examples of what Cranberry is talking about, take a good look at the paintings by Caravaggio, Ribera, Lčon Bonnat or any of the great painters of the past who knew well to use the shadow as a design element in their work.
You seem to have a good grasp on how to draw with lines, but your conceptions of mass are lacking. I see some comments in here insisting on attending life drawing classes, but none are giving guidelines on how you can percieve your subjects. ..
(Hope you can forgive me for copy pasting this from another thread, but I was just about to type this in all over again...)
'...the way you percieve your subject can be grouped in
1: Conceptual knowledge (perspective and geometric simplification of anatomy/mass conception*, proportion)
2: Visual facts (masses of value, outlines, negative shapes, value/color/edge relationships etc)
Conceptual knowledge gives you a solid framework for imaginary drawing and guides your eye towards the most important information when you are drawing from life.
The visual facts are what you actually aim to put down when you work from life, and having a thorough experience with this will add a greater sophistication to your life- and imaginary drawings.'
When you try, you will probably be able to make more and more sense out of all of this. Your drawing abilities may depend on your understanding, but in this case our brains only understands what it percieves, and perception can only be altered through sufficient experience.
AndreasM: Thanks for your comment! I'll have to answer later.
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Wow, what a... stimulating sketchbook. Your figures are pretty good; one weak spot I think is the consistency: some are better than others. It might help if you followed a specific process each time you drew a figure. Establish the gesture, block in the major skeletal forms, then muscle groups, and proceed from larger forms to smaller details, designing your shapes (emphasizing the geometric forms where you see them). Following the same process with every drawing (and continually refining that process of course) is one really good way to guarantee improvement.
A great book that deals with this is the Vilppu Drawing Manual, by Glen Vilppu. He's probably one of the best drawing instructors alive today, and his books are probably the best on figure drawing that I've seen.
Especially with regards to your heads, I think it would take take your work to another level if you really learned the underlying skeletal forms well; the skull, in this instance. The pelvis and the ribcage are also hugely important; nail those, and stuff tends to fall into place.
Anyway, good work. Keep truckin.
Thanks to all! I'll answer later and draw instead of it now...
Next Frazetta copy and some figures
Really nice sketches, i saw improvement just in the last few posts you did! Keep it up man
AndreasM: Thanks a lot! A big problem is my small english "drawing vocabulary". I tried to translate many of the texts with an online translator, but didn't get the "drawing translation". I'll go on drawing the way I'll explore the forms. I just don't know how to see/explore the masses. I also asked the same direction in one of the spartan threads, but I think the understanding will come with the time. So back to drawing...
jcpahl: I understand that I have to establish the concepts (bones, muscles, flesh of the human body) in my brain to understand better during the "seeing process"). But if I would do it at the moment this way, a piece would take ages to be finished. Thanks for your comment! I'll take a look on Vilppu and the forms.
Nonobot, snootchy, Lang Oulk: Thank you!
Next Frazetta girls and some sketches...
Hmm... I admit I did not go through the entire sketchbook, so I wouldn't know, but do you try looking for the negative space while drawing these? A very important part in drawing figures, for me personally, is looking to block in the mass as a whole. I am looking for how the body is placed in space, among other things.
Also, work a little on proportions. A basic studies of head proportions really helps a lot.
Best of luck, you have a great sketchbook.
Cool work man, nice to see the progress you've made in such a short amount of time. I think you'd benefit from doing some face studies though, cause yours seem to lack some structure. Look at Loomis or something like that which explains the planes and such of the face, it'll really help.
Keep up the good work!
NICE loving what you're doing here. here's a thought :
I think you're on the right track but you're over-simplifying. I think maybe you're worrying too much about line work now and line quality, when the most important part is shapes and accuracy... so maybe try to focus on just getting your shapes down in the right places, the right sizes, etc. and nice lines will follow naturally! just my 2˘
You have some really great work here though!
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Hey Soros thanks for visiting my SB. Yours is a lot of fun and I can really see how quickly you are improving. You asked me where I got my picture references from and I think most of them came free with the magazine Imagine FX that I buy so probably not much help to you. Here's a link to the magazines website http://www.imaginefx.com/. Can't wait to see what your imagination draws next.
to much drawings witch shows you are practicing so hard , very well . i wish you good luck for your next studies .
thanks for dropping by my SB, much appreciated!
nice progress and dedication you've got here, I'm really amazed that you keep posting every few days.
I'll throw my 2 coins in: imho would be good for you to step a bit away from pr0n and try studying more anatomy-rich content, ex. pics of sportsmen ..
also would be good to try and find general lines in the body and movement, like did this dude here:
also huge thanks from me for that "epic pencil SB's" thread over at Lounge, I'll certainly pay some closer attention to it!
hey surus, thanks for the comment in my sketchbook. personaly, i am a fan of the subject matter you draw. i am also liking your more traditional studies as well. there is some very good progress from the first post!
If i were to crit anything, i might suggest drawing some of the shapes that define the figure. every human figure is comprised of multiple shapes that define its form. i hope this makes sense. i would post a picture of what i mean but im posting from a phone haha.
Thank you all! 3 more
think in forms rather than just contours.
nice sketchbook man, really enjoy looking at it. I really like the first drawing of your last update. keep em coming!!
SKETCHBOOK -> http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=195781&page=9
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