Team Chow II :: Topics and Main Thread

[trevor]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=165168
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we have posted some junk woot!

[zimfin]

First, I am sorry if I missed the answer to this so thought I best confirm!

Just so I am absolutely sure where we stand minimum-wise, Nickillus and I will be making a Two man team so, unless I am mistaken, we need to do, between us, FOUR portraits.
Does that mean we each need only do One character each, (good and evil counting as 2 portraits) for the two of us to reach the four Portrait minimum?

[Ian Barker]

Another question... Is it okay if wer have background characters in the final portrait? For example, if I had a portrait of a king, could I add in a couple servants to the background?

[daestwen]

zimfin: yes, you need four portraits, so that would be two characters with both a good and evil portrait.

Liffey: Yess.... I guess, as long as it was really obvious they were background. But King isn't a class, so I wouldn't suggest it. :]

[Mat Kaminski]

Alright, if this has been asked before, sorry...

But, are we allowed to do characters that turn into evil characters? Does that fit the brief?

Like for example: Char A is good during the day, but evil at night. Will that work?

Or does the chracter need to be the SAME char....just...abused as a child or something?
Kind of like an alternate universe kinda thing?

Example:

Char A grew up in a loving family, etc, so ends up living a goodly life.
<show character in that scenario>

Char A grew up in an abusive family and stole and things to get by.
<show evil character from that scenario>

Which scenario would be right?

[daestwen]

Um, think of it as two different paths the same person could take. Not necessarily raised any differently, but a culmination of choices to lead the person down two very different roads. At least, this is the minimum you need to do.

If you would like to give a more complicated reason, that's fine, but they should be the same person, kind of like a dark mirror.

[DeKal]

daestwen - what about guns? i hope thats cool at least. assassins need guns!

[daestwen]

daestwen - what about guns? i hope thats cool at least. assassins need guns!

That question has already been answered.

I personally don't view guns as High Fantasy. Steampunk, for sure, Gas Lamp Fantasy, Contemporary Fantasy, Alternate Universe, yes. But not High Fantasy.

Guns brought about the end of Feudalism and the Middle ages. Hand guns weren't around until 1300-1400 hundred and flintlocks not until 1600-1700 and the revolver not until mid 1800. So anything you would consider a gun is decidedly modern.

[daestwen]

Guys, I just wanted to say that I am super proud of all of you! I have been following all your sketchbooks intently and I'm so happy with what I've been seeing. :]

Please, keep up the good work!

[zimfin]

Daestwen: Nickillus and I were wondering how "humanoid" our characters need to be in order to remain within CHOW guidelines? The reason I ask is we are planning on doing Element based, (Fire, Air, Earth and Water....possibly Quintessence too) characters but need to know if that is allowed.
I also wondered if the link we need to our sketchbook has to be written in a post or if my signature link will suffice?
Thanks!

[daestwen]

zimfin: They need to be as human as necessary to get across that they are characters rather than creatures. I can't really define this to a specific point, so if you're worried it's not reading well enough, pm me the link to the image and I'll take a look for you and let you know if you're too far off base.

As for the sketchbook... When you submit your final burning post, you will have to submit the link to your sketchbook. Until then, as long as it is in the team chow sketchbook section, you are fine. :] If you accidently made your thread in the main sketchbook section on CA, and not the team chow section, let me know and I can move it for you.

[Primordial Seven]

Question: In terms of character races, do we need to stick to the established lore/race fiction? Could I say, for example, that orcs infact are the slaves of the giants? Natrually they could retain what makes orcs orcs but the fiction surrounding them would change from the norm.

[daestwen]

Primodial Seven: Nope! You don't even have to stick to established fantasy races if you don't want. :] Feel free to go crazy, in that respect!

[Sentinel.]

Hey daestwen Someone had already asked about what leeway we have in pose and you mentioned to stay mostly front-facing - but would we be okay if some of our characters had 3/4 of the body clearly showing (the rest blocked somewhat by other people or props), or were in poses that didn't show off all aspects of their costume? Right now my team and I are doing thumbnails and I wanted to clarify this before we get too far along on any one image.

Sorry for being a little redundant, I know you mentioned in the brief to do full-bodied but I just want to be sure

[daestwen]

Hey daestwen Someone had already asked about what leeway we have in pose and you mentioned to stay mostly front-facing - but would we be okay if some of our characters had 3/4 of the body clearly showing (the rest blocked somewhat by other people or props), or were in poses that didn't show off all aspects of their costume? Right now my team and I are doing thumbnails and I wanted to clarify this before we get too far along on any one image.

Sorry for being a little redundant, I know you mentioned in the brief to do full-bodied but I just want to be sure

Yeah, i saw the sketches you might be worried about.

I would like the characters to be as open as they can be... I mean obviously I want to give some lee-way with poses, but as portraits I want to see most of the character and costume, at least in the main portrait... you're always welcome to do extra work on top with some more interesting compositions. :]

[Primordial Seven]

Primodial Seven: Nope! You don't even have to stick to established fantasy races if you don't want. :] Feel free to go crazy, in that respect!

Just to be absolutely sure before I go off and do something crazy, are you saying we can make up our own race for a character just so long as it looks fantasyish?

Also, can do we something a little more low fantasy? Our team (super high five squad) is going for a del toro esque style. Could you perhaps take a look and let us know?

[Raoul Duke]

I'm toying around with signing up, but Tolkien isn't my taste, can I do more of the Frazetta'esque Fantasy setting, bordering on greek mythology? May I blend genres for example Viking Orch or a Centaur Knight blah blah blah.

[daestwen]

Primordial Seven: Yes, you can make up a race as long as it looks fantasy-ish. And you guys look fine... Del Toro is fine by me!

Raoul Duke: Yes, that's fine. I'd count frazetta in high fantasy anyway.

[Pierce]

Hi all, This sounds like fun, but I will need a team! If you are interested in working with me drop me a message. Feel free to check out my gallery. Thanks.
Pierce

[zachalicious]

man everyone here should definitely check out the chanman's downloads on HERO's and VILLAIN's. They are the best downloads i've ever seen so go buy them... there you go chanman.

[daestwen]

NOTE TO ALL PARTICIPANTS

Guys, here's the deal. The example image in the first post is the format you're supposed to be working with - please stick to it! These are supposed to be portraits and I'm starting to see stuff that is getting a bit off target.

If you break the format then you won't be applicable for the prizes!

Part of this contest is working with the brief, so please stick to it. :]

If you want to double check that you're team is working within contest parameters, feel free to pm me and I'll check up on your stuff.

I can't keep track of everyone on my own, please try to keep to the format as it is outlined in the brief as much as possible.

Thanks in advance!

[Jason Manley]

plz be sure you are using the format provided...all rules must be followed to get the goods and looooooot!!!


j

[Jason Rainville]

I think there's some confusion with regards to this;

1. One team member will be in charge of submitting the final entry. >> How the entry is presented will be up to you <<, but keep it consistent and coherent.

I think that maybe some clarification should be given as to what the differences between presentation and format really are, since this is probably where the deviations spring from.

[daestwen]

Hey jason,

Yeah, ignore that everyone please. You'll notice that's only on the sign-up thread and was left over from the last team chow competition. I'm sorry if it made everyone confused!

Just to make it clear:

You need to submit the portraits required by the brief, in the format required (don't forget the width/height ratio, for example!).

You MAY ALSO submit other work, like turnarounds, etc, but it is not required.

If you wish to make up a presentation for that work, that's fine, but if you do that please make sure that the portraits are also attached in the format given.

Hope that's clearer. :]

[Twitchfinger]

When you're referring to the image format, does that mean we need to stick to the exact proportions of the Zhang Lu example? (~2:3 width-to-height ratio) or is it fine as long as we maintain an overall portrait setup (height longer than width)? Just want to make sure we're on the right track.

[LostFayth]

Do we need to make a line up like last time, Daestwen? (for the poll) If yes, should there be one for each side or just one with both sides on it and in what format?

[daestwen]

Twitchfinger: I'd rather you stick to the 2:3 ratio, or close to. Thanks!

Lostfaith: No, you don't. But you can submit one anyway, if you like. :]

[Saleem]

Am I too late for joining in, just got back from holiday
this chow looks awesome, please let me know if i can still join in. thanks

[JailHouseRock2]

Hi daestwen, couple of quick questions.

For the character briefs, do you want them on the character images themselves, or will a link to the write ups suffice?

Also do we need a brief for each portrait (good&evil), or just one broader character description for both?

And finally, am I right in thinking we don't need a composite image for this CHOW?

Thanks, I know these are busy times,
matt

[daestwen]

You need to submit at least a paragraph of the brief in the final burning thread for each of the images. If they are longer than that, post the first paragraph and then a link to the rest. Yes, you need one for each portrait, as good and evil would have different descriptions, right?

Yes, you are correct, you don't need a composite.