make love, not warcraft

**cg-monkey** · January 10th, 2009, 09:26 AM

Hello Everyone

its been a while since i have been working on this painting in my free time,i made the concept sketch for this while watching an episode of south park by the same name

hope you guys will enjoy it as much as i did painting it, here is the link to a bit highres one..
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/350...rcraft3ql2.jpg

thanks for viewing

**danlambert** · January 10th, 2009, 10:39 AM

Thats great, a really cool concept.
I think maybe there's too much black used in the ogre's shading though. He is outside on what appears to be a very nice day so I would have though there would be a lot of light around.
Oh, and awesome texturing on the axe head

**Mattinian** · January 10th, 2009, 11:17 AM

yep i second that, your shadows are very strong for an outside sunny day enviroment. And also compositionally you`ve got this empty space above
the girl and there seems to be a heart shape formed from the clouds around
it i can`t put my finger on it exactly :] but nevertheless it`s just too empty.
It could have been a nice opportunity to research on how classical artists draw clouds for instance and try to apply that in the painting. keep up the good work :]

**jdeegz** · January 10th, 2009, 12:54 PM

nah man, if you take a photo outside on a clear day you're going to get ALOT of real hard dark shadows, i think the light is applied correctly.

my only grip is how the girls hair transforms into a shirt, haha

**Mattinian** · January 11th, 2009, 03:32 AM

oh and said shirt is waaay to black :]

**Ignatz** · January 11th, 2009, 04:18 AM

I couldn't help notice the concept similarities between this image and one I did some time ago - http://conceptart.org/forums/attachm...1&d=1180295129

**Hive_minD** · January 11th, 2009, 05:30 AM

Haha I loved it! Though I find the axe looks flat. Need some more work. Not just texture

**Elwell** · January 11th, 2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by jdeegz

nah man, if you take a photo outside on a clear day you're going to get ALOT of real hard dark shadows, i think the light is applied correctly.

But those aren't hard dark shadows, they're soft dark shadows, which imply a diffused light source with dark surroundings. (And photography is deceptive, since it doesn't have the same range of value sensitivity as the eye. Bright sunlight is high contrast, yes, but both the light and shadow have a lot of light in them.)

**Matt Dixon** · January 11th, 2009, 09:41 AM

Ignatz - To be fair, I think you'll find the juxtaposition of child and monster in the oeuvre of a great many artists. There's one in Targete's artist profile and Baron Impossible posted a great example here recently. I think we can all agree this isn't a particularly original concept, nor something one could easily claim ownership of. ( Not that I'm suggesting you were. )

cg-monkey - It's cute. I like the texturing. Agreed with comments about the very dark shadows. I don't think they necessarily look 'wrong' but adding some definition to those areas would certainly serve your image better. Looking at the hires image it seems that you already have some subtle bounce light going on - maybe push that harder to get some detail and colour into the shadows? Interesting that you chose to have the girl's back to the viewer. Was that a deliberate, perhaps symbolic, choice? I would have thought she'd be more interesting to look at with a frontal presentation. I'd also echo the comments on the empty space. Mattinian's suggestion is good - you could really go to town on some groovy clouds. Alternatively, as your compositon is very two dimensional, perhaps you could push that graphic feel even further and empty the sky completely?

**cg-monkey** · January 12th, 2009, 01:16 AM

Hello Everyone,

Thanks a lot guys for your feedback the best i got since i have posted this in a few place and was unable to get and good feed back, the only feedback i got was OOow Ahhh its good nice work blah blah but i am here to learn not to show off or any thing so i would take this to be the best feed back yet

and Dixon about being an original concept so i never said it was but this was the 1st time i saw the images you have given links above

i will make the changes hopefully soon and will re post it for more feed back

once again thanks a lot everyone for your feedback its highly appreciated.

**CGMonkey** · January 12th, 2009, 05:35 AM

hey you've stolen my handle! ;D

Nice Image.

**Ignatz** · January 12th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Matt Dixon

Ignatz - To be fair, I think you'll find the juxtaposition of child and monster in the oeuvre of a great many artists. There's one in Targete's artist profile and Baron Impossible posted a great example here recently. I think we can all agree this isn't a particularly original concept, nor something one could easily claim ownership of. ( Not that I'm suggesting you were. )

Thanks for the input Matt, Im sorry if I came off as though i were accusing anyone of anything (That was not my intention). I merely thought it was funny that I had a similar concept.
Ive seen similar illustrations in the past as well, and it's understandable that such things might happen.

BTW CG Monkey, keep up the good work.

**cg-monkey** · January 12th, 2009, 01:28 PM

hi there guys,

cgmonkey dude sorry about that its a really old nick i have n my gfx art account i think its alright no one mindz just another monkey do they?and damn Ignatz thats a good one you made out there hope i will be able to draw such stuff one day,i think there are a whole lot o monsters n lil kids nowadays i think we should post links to king Kong and monsters INC aswell lol,

Thanks guys for your feed back,
cg monkey.