6 years of concept art SB in june! Oo!

[ashess]

reflexion x matte practise


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[habrok]

That pegasus one came out nice. I see what you meant about the ovular pillars. They look good now.

This comic is interesting. Are these trees like robot ents?

[shiNIN]

I'm not very good at visiting SBs lately and I neglected yours for too long but at least now I got to see a lot of stuff It's not like I can say useful things anyway. You do quite interesting things with enviros, it seems doing them suits you well, I'm looking forward to your future ones

[ashess]

buuh. I wrote a rather lengthy post yesterday but apparently something went wrong because it is gone now. maybe I only pressed preview and never submit? anyway, sort version:
@ habrok- just normal trees, plants too. but they can move. they stay rooted to the ground though.
@shiNIN- but you are here. anyway, if you want to say something you can always let that inner critique guy free on me :p don’t worry I know self defense.


armor design with ref:

pensil stuff for comic, etc.

[keroulisnikos]

thanks fighting. Ibothered my boyfriend into posing some yesterday. gonna do that more often again :p
well, I haven't got any animations test for this film, but I was thinking something along the lines of my graduation film:
http://www.ashess.nl/aliens.swf
(more on my site, www.ashess.nl)

well it's late so no drawing tonight. I'll just post some knee studies from this weekend just for show and tell Oo

Impressed.

[habrok]

Your traditional stuff has a lot of life! I really like them. Especially the poses on the lined paper. I think they're way stronger than your digitals, which seem quite a bit stiffer to me.

I hope you post more pencils! Or any traditionals, really. I wanna seeee. : )

[LtPlissken]

I noticed how you decreased the animosity between the
characters in the comic book. The trees are alive just like
in Poltergeist. They will eat up every child like a raw breed ogre
eats up a Venetian Capricciosa. As the waves got smaller and
as the ocean got quiet down, your impressions became more
and more fortified. The ones who did not saw you in action till
now, they not realize the big bang that you can dish out.
You have put on a monostatic policlinic once again.
Future generations will browse your book over and over
again, taking fresh breaths out from your camping shed.
A truly admirable amount of quality soul food have you served
in front of us. Period.

[ashess]

@keroulisnikos- thank you! that was a long time ago good times though.

@habrok- you like those? haha. I got a million of them. hardly ever bother to scan. here's another set just for you :p

@ plissken- how have you been my friend? I hope you enjoyed to meal. and I hope you are feeling happy again! ill see art from you again soon I bet


also, I notice I have made 4 stars. yippy!
now I've gone into the realm of coolness and will likely have to watch out as not to get stepped on by the big boys :p

heres some pencil sketching:








and heres an update on my webcomic's page. I think it's good like this?

[DKHutcheson]

I'm assuming this is a rough draft of your comic page, right now. I'm not familiar with the story, but there are some visual technical things that I can point out.

Your comics bubbles are very mechanical right now. Not very nice on the eyes. You should make the bubbles to match your lettering, give the letters enough space to breathe. Whenever the lettering touches the bubble, it makes a very distracting tangent. You want the bubbles to go hand in hand with your art and lettering.
(btw, I think your bubble sizing is better than mine, mine are getting odd and thick. It's mostly the space between the words and the balloons and the organic shape of the bubble that I wanted to show you.)



The 'tadadada', which I think is gun-fire, at first I thought was him laughing really strangely. Sound effects looks best when hand drawn, and when you have them in the clean CC font like now, it reads like a speech bubble would instead of a sound effect.

Next, your panels are informative enough, but not engaging. Your shots are head-on, and though you've got some good pose ideas going on, you're not really pushing it as far as it could go.



You've got to think about what you want the audience to know or feel. For instance, I see the platoon, I see a cocky captain, and I see... this one guy? He doesn't appear in any of the other panels and he's not doing anything to keep the story moving, so why am I seeing him? (I haven't seen your other pages or know the story, so there may be a reason and I'm just missing it). But in the page as is, I'm clueless to why he's there.

Also, the panel is just kind of boring. There's no real emphasis on anyone except the one character to the foreground, who I am assuming isn't the focus since you are following the captain. You could have handled the panel differently, chosen an interesting angle to show his power/influence over the men or something that exaggerated his attitude. Or you could've gone a mysterious route and threw silhouettes of the trees in the foreground seeming to 'close-in around the men'. There are dozens of ways to present the scene. The angle you choose changes the audience's experience. What do you want the audience to know or feel? It's something you've got to consider when approaching each individual panel.


I'm no pro, but these are a lot of things I've heard from other people. I hope it's helpful. The story does sound interesting from some of the comments I've read. Goodluck! c:

[Shahan]

Thanks SO much for the advice on my perspective pieces! it really helps.
Glad to see recent updates, this stuff is good THIS drawing with eh female figure in the center was really good.
Continue on man, just do hundreds of wire figures and post the best!
cheers!

[ashess]

@dkhutcheson- hmm gonna have to do freehand blubbles I think. but its a good point.
as for the angles, I just feel stupid now. I cant seem to watch all the things I should be considering when doing a page.

maybe I should make a list for myself.
1-what should the story show?
2-what will the story steps be (parts)
3-how will that translate into panels (page layout)
4-what will the text/picture relation of every panel be?
5-what will the panel show; mood, angle etc.
6-what will the text be.

@sporus- haha! you're welcome man! when do we see more? ill keep logging away if you do

[DKHutcheson]

To be sure, comics are insane business. I have a really tough time keeping up with things too. There's so much to consider, but people keep telling me it becomes second nature after a while.

[shiNIN]

Drawing comics is so hard even if one has good drawing skills, there are so many other things to care for... I don't dare to try such things yet, maybe comic strips, those are easier... So I will at least lurk here, hoping I will learn something (or help, I have eyes, after all) I agree with DKHutcheson (now that I've read the post, I could spot only the "foreground guy" problem, I didn't understand his presence either).
I'm cheering for you!!!

[Flashback]

@dkhutcheson- hmm gonna have to do freehand blubbles I think. but its a good point.
as for the angles, I just feel stupid now. I cant seem to watch all the things I should be considering when doing a page.

maybe I should make a list for myself.
1-what should the story show?
2-what will the story steps be (parts)
3-how will that translate into panels (page layout)
4-what will the text/picture relation of every panel be?
5-what will the panel show; mood, angle etc.
6-what will the text be.

@sporus- haha! you're welcome man! when do we see more? ill keep logging away if you do

Framed ink might help. It's good to see that your thumb lines.

http://www.amazon.com/Framed-Ink-Dra.../dp/1933492953

[habrok]

You could practice by doing lots of thumbnails for each shot. For example, "Establishing shot of captain instructing troops; setting: forest" and then do as many variations on that as you can think of.

It would be a pain in the ass for doing a whole story--and doesn't take into account story flow and beats and nice, communicative shot variation--but the point is more to train your brain to see different ways of showing a scene.


David Petersen's blog has a lot of posts about his process, btw. Here's one:

http://davidpetersen.blogspot.com/20...rote-blog.html

There's more, but he doesn't seem to use a tagging system, so you really have wade through the back posts. Idk how helpful they are to you, but at least it's a fun blog?

[poetry man]

interesting variety.

Found this you said funny on blackspots sketchbook: "computer issues, huh?.. wouldnt wish them on my worst enemy!" LOL- I know all about it.

keep it up!

[Shahan]

I like the P.R. day 1 day 2, those were good. I can see its her realising some important event is about to happen... and then she kills her "daddy" ? am i right?
I actually really like that. as in... how it is delivered. it was not IN MY FACE but i figured it out. it was cool and subtle is what i meant to say lol

also from the above posts this guy sketch is good. the legs and hips seem narrow but this stood out to me.

[LtPlissken]

Wow, more than a month away,
I hope you are doing fine my dear.

[ashess]

Wow, more than a month away,
I hope you are doing fine my dear.

aah, dont worry bout me
I really, really feel bad about bothing like this though. I have no excuse. well, maybe one. it all started with a sprained wrist from drawing at a wrong angle.. so I took some days off. but I had all these ideas, so I did some writing instead. (typing went well enough); and then.. well, once you start typing up a story, you gotto finish it, right? aah, anyway. halfway done with that :p

now, I keep trying to do drawing studies again, but it's hard to start up again. if you know what mean. I got a lot of snippets on paper. but they all suck. ahh, I know, I just gotto bite through, but with a story half done I let myself get distracted and start writing again instead.

story of my live :p focus, girl. focus!

try at the pale greeter thing:
again, it's a half-hearted try. the next cow thing, which is supposed to greet bad souls at hell's doorway. I wanted something humanoid with faces for all for all the people that person wronged. didnt turn out quite right.. uh :p

[LtPlissken]

Injuries can bring us down, don't let them get to you.
You are back and that is the most important. I was a bit
scared that you abandoned this place. Let's celebrate.

[AllyAlbon]

Grand stuff, especially the comics, would love to see some of them taken to finish. Great cat sketches too, but I am biased

[blu01]

I am sorry that it took me soooo long time to give you comment. Thanks for visiting my SB. I read that you had some problems with wrist, so I hope you are fine now. I noticed that your faces lack construction. Try study skull and features of face. Loomis is the best choice. Great that you are now in comics. You are getting better in it. I like your work list. It is great way how you can destroy laziness. (I am fighting too but less successfully) If you have troubles with colour, work in black and white, it helps a lot (you know). Keep going.

[Flashback]

Welcome back! ashess hope you are feeling better, at least you were writing ideas and staying productive.

[Shahan]

hey sorry to hear about the wrist, a user on here "andres333" posted this:

I found it useful, ANYONE working with the small drawing area of tablets runs risks of some kind of horrible wrist ordeal.... I've had some trouble too, but thanks GOD I'm a lefty and my right hand is my mouse hand... because i srsly think my mouse hand has Carpel Tunnel.
Follow those rules and look at Daarken's ergo vid.

As for your art, I like the comics and panel structure. Good ideas and concepts, would love to see more development.
thank you SO much for the advice on the wurm, you are so helpful
I tried to incorporate thirds into my final submission and tapering the size.
The community activities are great! They help me stay motivated and focused

Wishing you a speedy recovery

[Black Spot]

When I said eggs (sorry for the long delay in replying) it's because they're not as easy you think and can teach you a lot about form.

You got some good advice on your comic from Daphne.

[ashess]

Plissken: well,wasn't reallyback yet I guess. But I'm gonna start trying again now. I'm just going to start with a max 1 hour a day practise, and make sure I move from the elbow. actually probably should do more @ my desk and less on my laptop. well, let's just see how this turns out. tried some pen on sb a few days back. that still didn;t feel right. still, we'll see how it builds up.b

AllyAlban: thanks I mean to start taking them there ^^

Shahan: you got that? the pr killing daddy thing? im so glad. ^^
ty for the wrist self-help thing im gonna be using that to teach myself some more healthy drawing manners!

black spot: took me longer! haha. talk about work ethic.

blue1/ flashback: yup starting down the bunny trail again!

so I guess this is kind of the sad stuff I have to show for my long leave of absense. all from this week though; so I have sort of started again:

[Flashback]

Welcome back, Ashess! How are things?

[Black Spot]

Nice start on the clown fish. Don't think you did a bad job on drawing your kids, they're hard to do when they keep moving. The last one made me laugh.

[shiNIN]

The last one made me laugh too
ashess, it's good you started again (it's always soooo hard, I always decide not to stop again ), keep the stuff coming