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    Vekht: Thanks so much dude!

    Miles_: Hmm I don't really think that picture came out so well, but if you say so you're advice was really helpful, definitely changed my posemaniacs a lot. You'd better get enough money PM me tomorrow to let me know if you can go right?

    Upping my game, I realised I needed to produce more work. I'm now using 60 second posemaniacs, and only as warm ups, do about 30 a day. 2 pages of study and I'll post a life portrait later. Something clicked today, just feel all these drawings show improvement. Have to be the best

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    This last one was done from posemaniacs but I'm not sure how much time i spent on each, maybe 10-15 minutes? May post a portrait later.

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    WTF!! did I miss something!!! MAN!! hand studies looking good! posemaniacs have evolved already and man…last two are good pieces of work! well done!! give us more
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    I also think that I missed something Level up man !! Cheers

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    That's some noticeable improvement, well done mate. Keep it varied and keep up the hard work

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    i see some improvement. oh i would recommend hogarths Dynamic Figure drawing if you like his head and body one. (i dont have that one) The book should be listed on that www.scribd.com site.

    It will help you with more dynamic figures (as the title implies)


    anyways keep up the good work ^_^
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    Ah as flattered as I was by all the comments on my improvement, it kinda shifted my focus too much onto getting a good drawing then learning, thus making me fail epically today, I worried too much about getting it right. Must...Get...Stable...Mind frame!!!

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    Last two are pictures referenced from Parkour. These were really fun to draw and I reckon gave a lot of help with gesture.
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    There was another 60 second posemaniacs but it wouldn't upload. I think I will do two more posemaniacs later on 10-15 mintues each, we'll see. Over and out.

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    Yes, thats it dude, with the 30 seconds, try to just go for it with confidence, none of the slightly petted lines, just smooth flowing. You'll be amazed at the results.

    I read a great post today that I'll link you to, and I highly reccommend you read

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...115055&page=26

    further down the page, the post by Kvick. You might wanna think about some of the things he said, before getting into the habit of constantly being unhappu with where you are right now.

    As for tomorrow, I don't think I can make it, My grandparents are coming down for the weekend:p, maybe, we'll see.

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    Miles_: Yeah I noticed I was mothering those lines a tad too much, thanks for bringing it up. I gotta say that post does help a lot. I have a much broader view of things that I may as well get off my chest whilst I'm here. I'm trying to act as 3rd person from my drawings as I can and most of all have a balanced view of all my work. I imagine it as a see-saw, if I'm happy about a drawing, then the flipside is that I could also get very unhappy about a drawing. It works both ways. So instead of wanting, as Kvick said, to be happy, I more want to be neutral, because you can't have the highs without the lows...in my opinion anyway. On the last post I got too much encouragement which made me too proud, thus making all other work seem inadequate and getting me annoyed. Anyway thanks mate

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    I find doing these sports studies really fun, and really really helpful
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    in the last one with the guy upside down, his hands dont seem to be flat against the ground. or at least at the angle they should be at.
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    My57: I drew it straight from reference, but I think he must have been adjusting his weight or something. Cheers.

    Todays lot so far. I found I was pushing the pencil down pretty hard, I guess relying on force for confidence in lines, so i made it very light on the figures and got more flowing results
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    Starting to try and use my studies in more final pieces.
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    somebody stop him!!=)
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    More stuff. This SB has become a lonely place haha. I feel my anatomy is coming along quite well, I might ease that off slightly and move into face studies. I'm not sure, some people do one thing for a week, and some keep it all varied all the time. My only worry with doing one thing for ages, is that I might end up sucking at everything else. Help me out :/

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    Looking good man, you are improving phenominally fast! Don't worry about the whole just studying anatomy thing, its definately paying off so don't worry. You have so much time to improve, remember most of the pro's you see on this site are at least mid twenties minimum. Your work is already looking so much better, just keep it up!

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    lol you copied my pointing guy xD

    jks, i know you got it from that book. Anyways, i see you've been practising hard. keep it up and you'll get better.
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    Miles_: Will do

    My57: Yeah you're version of it looked pretty hot so I figured I'd use that. Didn't quite get the curvy hips though. Thanks

    My scanner is being funny, so if the values doesn't look right, it is just the scanner. Stuff from yesterday:
    Just study and stuff.
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    These two aren't reffed, completely from my mind. Probably a bad idea, but the references can be quite restricting in terms of being able to find the right one.
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    I'll upload some drawings from today later. Need to go draw them now
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    Hey man, thanks for stopping by my SB.
    I looked through yours, and I can see improvement already.
    just keep it up and there's no limit to how good you'll be.

    If I can offer a crit:
    When doing the pose drawing I would recommend drawing through the form. Like if a leg is crossing over another leg, dont just draw the leg(in the back) up to where you dont see it anymore and then continue to draw it from the other side.. like attaching it on or something... Draw right through the leg in front.. not noticeably tho.. just lightly, so you get a better grasp for where things go, then go back and do the darker lines. This will keep things a bit more proportionate.
    I'm not sure if that really made any sense at all... I have a hard time getting what I want to say into words.. lol, if you dont get it. just fire me a PM or something I would be glad to help out some more.

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    nice man, didn't know you could draw like that!
    I shall post in an minute at my thread to, but anyway great studies and so much!!

    Awesome dude

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    Jeff Bartzis: Thanks, means a lot. I do love getting crits I'd never thought of Will definitely try that next time.

    Grizzliman: Thanks dude, means more than you know And I will be checking up on your SB so get updating.

    Todays stuff. Need to press down on some posemaniacs, I'm being too lazy lately. Everyone's telling me I'm getting really good, but personally I think I'm only like 1% of the artist I could be at the moment. Any crits on the pilot piece would be nice, I'm thinking of drawing more and making it a full piece maybe? Oh yeah, that legless hobo thing I guess counts towards my challenge
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    wow tons of studies here. Keep it up and you'll get anatomy down pretty fast.
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    Hay Sam, good porgress here,

    The studies are going really good like My57 said keep them up and you'll get where you want to be quicker,

    Oh and as a side note, when your doing the anatomy studies try to do lots of really quick ones just trying to get the right shape and proportions rather than going stright to the detail.

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    My57: Hmm was that sarcasm? I don't do nearly enough studies

    JailHouseRock: Thanks, I will try harder

    Yesterdays stuff.
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    These are 30 second PM (the others were 60. I found it hard to following the crit because 30s are so damn quick.
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    Its shocking how fast you are improving:0

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    lol, Miles it was amazing how fast u were improving, but he has a point dude, yur lookin really good. Us 14 year olds are gonna rule the art world someday
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    Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook! I looked through yours and the improvement obviously there. One suggestion from me though is that you work more on proportions. Some heads look a bit small and some poses look slightly awkward... but some fine tuning will make your work much better. Your shading is nice as well!

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    Miles_: That's huge coming from you

    Magezhilo: Yeah, give it a year and us lot will be the pros of this place

    jackpot_anjr90: I know my current weakness is the head being too small and occasionally the legs look tiny. Thanks for crit

    Seriously guys, I can explain D: I had a big maths test and then my science ISA for GCSEs and when I got home I went out to a party. I didn't have a lot of time to draw but I managed to fit in a half-arsed SP.

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    Don't worry. If you're not enjoying life, you can't enjoy art. Make sure that all your school work and social needs are dealt with. Even on the worst days you can get a little art done, as long as you are in a routine you'll be fine.

    I think you should do some value studies on simple objects, work on your lighting and blending. Your sense of proportion and space has improved a lot, and values seem to be one of your weak points. Keep it up!

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    ...Because GCSE revision is boring

    Looking better, starting to get a better resemblance, one thing you are doing a lot in your self portraits is making the eyes a bit too big. Also in terms of values, think of it like this. You have your areas in light, and your areas in shadow. Out of a value range of say, 10 values, you should have everything from white (1) down to about 0.4 as values for light, and the remaining four as values for shadow. Only leave the white of the paper in areas that are the absoulute brightest highlights, and describe your form using subtle shifts in value. Then the most drastic change should be to areas of shadow. You get hard edged shadows from cast shadows, which is light being blocked by an object casting a shadow. Form shadows are the softer edged shadows caused my a surface turning away from a lightsource.

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    and because you're super special here is a quick thing on value and light, not the best thing ever, I can't remember your face off the top of my head and im not certain of the lighting so there isnt much resemblance, but as I said its more about value.

    Yours has a much better resemblance

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