Two pieces i need critiqued

**darkhero** · July 1st, 2008, 07:13 PM

i spent much time on these, but i think there is something missing in both of them

**MiniGoth** · July 2nd, 2008, 12:34 AM

Draw the underlying structure before rendering, it'll help you see the forms.

Skin has a lot more colors in it.

**darkhero** · July 2nd, 2008, 10:00 AM

i actually added a little color to this one, but i dont want a bunch of color in his face anyway.

**Drunken_hand** · July 2nd, 2008, 02:18 PM

The pieces feels very strange, disjointed and not whole lot of unity. In some places, very flat, other places, more volume. Some places you have hard edges, other places softer and muddier brushes.

The transitions you use from light to dark on your skin is simply too jarring in places and implies some pretty weird things about your characters' facial structure. Some examples would be the guy's indent in his cheek on his right side, that crease he has to the right of his mouth, what not...

Other than that, it's like you've clipped pictures out of magazines or something, you have these crisp outer lines/silhouettes for the heads, but then the details and forms inside tend to be much softer. Then again, the silhouette of the guy's body seems to lack the hard brush treatment too. The hair on both characters doesn't help, especially when you have harder edges compared to a bunch of softer edges inside. It may just be my monitor (and the monitor on this laptop really is screwy) but it also looks like the hair is generally a flat/single shade of black. With as much lighting as you're getting on your character, their hair probably shouldn't be like that.

**darkhero** · July 2nd, 2008, 02:54 PM

i disagree with alot of that. the idea behind that peice is that he is holding a demon that is escaping. the face is meant to look demonic and not completly human proportions.

And in real painting, which ive learned at school, that not every edge is going to be sharp or not every edge will be blended. You hafta to do a mix to cuase depth. I saw you do mostly anime, which drawing anime uses many different techniques and approachs

i can at least agree with the light to dark transition, somewhat, but once again i was trying to show depth.

**Drunken_hand** · July 2nd, 2008, 03:38 PM

me? anime? where? sketchbook? That's...that's not anime

those were my poor attempts at real life folk... save for the skulls and what not, those were from Stephen Roger Peck's book. Anyhow, feel free to disagree, they were just my thoughts.

**darkhero** · July 2nd, 2008, 05:05 PM

i wasnt tryin to be a dick, i tried looking at your stuff and i somehow got on a page with anime and thought it was yours my bad, im very new to this site.

**darkhero** · July 2nd, 2008, 05:15 PM

ive edited both of them\
with the werewolf girl i got rid of her akward rib and did some more work on her face and with the guy i did some very small detail

**Drunken_hand** · July 2nd, 2008, 05:21 PM

No no no, I didn't think you were being a dick at all. I'm not the best person to give advice around here, take what I say with a pound of salt. For what it's worth, the piece on the left actually isn't that bad, just a few things stand out to me. The fact that I don't mention much else means that the rest of the piece works. Hopefully somebody more qualified than I will come along and help you out. Good luck.

Though... this does cause some concern, I wonder what it was you saw when you looked for my stuff. Certainly hope it doesn't come off that way...