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    Disney Rejection Letter for Women circa 1938

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/polaroid/632255233/

    Thought that might amuse people.

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    Those awfull things from the past are valuable to remind ourselves how far we have come, we think that the world is doomed and society doesnt evolve but it does, just tiny steps at a time, in 70 years from now i wonder how much stuff the young people then will look back with disgust.

    This one is simply outrageous, any lady friend of mine would leave me a brown eye if i told them anything like this:

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    Nice find!

    Seriously ROFL @ The good wife's guide!

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    I'd leave you with more than a brown eye.

    I know I shouldn't be shocked to read these, but DAMN. If that's what makes a good wife, I want to be BAD. Really, really bad.

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    Well, I mean, at least with the good wife's guide, it helps to understand to context...

    because during the war, the girls were doing all the guys work anyway, and proving just as useful at it, so when all those young men came back they had to do something to make sure they were employed, hence a looong campaign to put women 'back in their place'.

    It disgusts me, but at least we had some glory days during the war.

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    I'd be such a bad wife. -_- "...Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him..." hee hee hee... XD Now it just sounds like a prank to me.

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    "Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him."

    Oh i know what it means. But i can't stop laughing.
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    there is something about the way that the dwarfs are looking at snow white that sums up the tone of the letter....

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    There is a comment at the bottom of the linked article from the New Yorker that there is one animator that is a women, but that still isn’t very good.

    For that I have two comments.

    The position of animator is only one of many positions to make a movie and if they look at the complete list they will see many women, and in high positions. People outside of animation seem to think that the only position of importance is that of animator, which is far from the truth.

    2. While you will find more males then females currently in this list, there may be more of an interest by males for this kind of work and if you look at schools like Animation Mentor they have female students working through the program. Having one sex or the other migrate into a work force is not an overnight change unless a major force like during WWII happens. Five years down the road I would look back and see how the industry has transformed.

    Evolution takes time and is always happening.

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    The question is are there a lot of women applying for the position that are qualified and being rejected, or are there just less women in general.

    Reminds me when Black Activists bitch about how many Black men are in jails, overlooking the fact that if there are a high number of Black men committing crimes, it's likely they'll go to jail

    A statistic without context often becomes unsavory, which is why you do need to find out the background of information presented before screaming sexism, racism and so on.

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    Halarious. I have a family of 3 older sisters and my mom whom will appreciate the email i just sent to them with this attached. I told them that if they arent already living by it, they need to start.

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    Those awfull things from the past are valuable to remind ourselves how far we have come, we think that the world is doomed and society doesnt evolve but it does, just tiny steps at a time, in 70 years from now i wonder how much stuff the young people then will look back with disgust.

    This one is simply outrageous, any lady friend of mine would leave me a brown eye if i told them anything like this:
    "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
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    The good wife's guide is a classic.

    Remember: Catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction!

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    A good wife always knows her place

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    bwuahahah, Im going to print that out and pin that "Good Wife" ad on the walls at my job.

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    I never met one girl from my same inscription year studying mechanical engeneering, not one!, sexism? nope,looking further, girls simply dont care as much for that career, if you look in biology, arquitecture, phisics, electronic eng. computer eng, youll be crowded with female students, they can choose whatever they want to study and work in, but a big majority doesnt have interest to apply in that particular field. Only one movie´s animation credits dont say much about nothing.There should be a full list of applicants and a large comparison to all the other fields at least. Is unlikely that any big company nowadays would risk to be sued their asses off by hiring with prejudice. Writing a letter in such manner nowadays would mean a dead sentence.

    I wonder if someone has ever dared to give Julie Bell an unfair rejection on her art, i really wouldn't dare...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade89 View Post
    Those awfull things from the past are valuable to remind ourselves how far we have come, we think that the world is doomed and society doesnt evolve but it does, just tiny steps at a time, in 70 years from now i wonder how much stuff the young people then will look back with disgust.

    This one is simply outrageous, any lady friend of mine would leave me a brown eye if i told them anything like this:
    Misogny for the lose.

    Then again, I think that was made in the 50's, so I'm not too suprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/polaroid/632255233/

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    Laugh all you want but if it wasn't for the work by Disney in that time and age cooties would probably still be running rampant in the civilized world.

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    If only I could go back in time and live in those days....what wonders I would see and joys I would live. Although I might not like no interweb or Plasma TV's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade89 View Post
    Those awfull things from the past are valuable to remind ourselves how far we have come, we think that the world is doomed and society doesnt evolve but it does, just tiny steps at a time, in 70 years from now i wonder how much stuff the young people then will look back with disgust.

    This one is simply outrageous, any lady friend of mine would leave me a brown eye if i told them anything like this:

    lol wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRose92 View Post
    lol wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So do you gotta be a chick to get a rejection letter? (Have heard nothing from 80% of my submissions... including Disney)
    Reading the article might be fundamental otherwise your attempts at sarcasm fall flat since it doesn't even look like you read the thing.

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    isn't the letter signed by a woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diphallia View Post
    isn't the letter signed by a woman?
    Yes, but they may have had positions in the HR department for that, but not the position the person applied for.

    Actually it was said that often women were paid higher positions in customer service and sales because it is more pleasant to hear it from a woman. Granted this is a letter so there is no tone, but it may have also been done to "lighten the blow" if it came from another woman.

    It's also possible that the woman who signed it was a secretary for the big wig who said no as well.

    http://www.boingboing.net/2007/06/26...ction-let.html

    Here is another rejection letter in 1939: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.c...onsidered.html

    http://www.mouseplanet.com/articles.php?art=ww061101ws This blog is interesting.

    As well as this: http://www.animationarchive.org/2007...yout-book.html The Disney Try-Out Book.
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