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    Kinda Bumpyish Things (due Nov. 17)

    I just flipped through the Dancing skeletons assignment and you guys have really done some nice things! This one isn't gonna be as much fun as that, maybe, but it's not bad considering I only got one brain cell left...

    We're doing a drawing of some stuff (see below) to see how well we do with different textures, and at the same time, maybe learn a bit about composition and layout. You can use whatever tools and medium you're most comfortable with, and yes, it can certainly be black and white.


    Kinda Bumpyish Things (Due November 17)

    We will draw ALL of the following:

    1. A piece of wood with the bark still on it (The bark is the important part).

    2. A stone, pebble or rock (whatEVER...), preferably one that isn't polished to a glassy sheen (Think RUFF, RUFF, RUFF...)

    NOTE: You can have more than one of the two items above if you want, but ONLY these two items. From Number 3 on, ONLY one is permitted...

    3. The threaded section of a metal bolt, like a screw, but the kind that takes a nut and holds your skeleton together (...?...they don't? Oh...sorry...) And...yes, you can draw the WHOLE bolt if you want...

    4. A leaf, from a tree or any other kind of plant. I'd consider a fern frond or something like that a "leaf" for the sake of argument.

    5. A piece of cloth that has a really obvious weave to it, like burlap, the stuff they make sacks out of. It can be any size or shape you want.

    6. A beetle--the buggy kind, like a lady bug or June Bug, with hard outer wings...not the musical kind.


    AND, when we draw these things, we're going to arrange them on the page is if they were a real still life--which sounds like it would be rather difficult to do because their so different in size and such from each other, BUT you don't have to make them in the proper size in relation to each other. The leaf can be as big as a house if you want it to be (not recommended) and the bolt thread can be growing right out of the pebble, if that's what works for you. You're basically doing a fantasy still life. As long as the item is there, it can be any size you want it to in relation to the other items. OoooOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo...surreal....

    You CAN'T add any additional things, even a bit of string, for example, or a box to hold something or lean something against. (But, since the burlap cloth can be any shape or size you want, there's nothing in the rules that say you can't have s bunch of loose threads hanging off it--just in case you wanted to tie something to 'em...see how this works?)

    There is no background (except for white paper and any shadows that are cast by your items).

    Why we're doin' this...

    All of the items above have very different textures. and no matter what level your skills are at, you should be able to show the difference between them fairly easily. You just have to think a bit, and study some samples from the net or your backyard for a few minutes, and you'll pull it off--probably a lot better than you thought you could. Be very careful about how the shadows and light affect your items. This is primarily how you'll be showing the texture to your viewers. And this skill is what makes you one step ahead of the guy who just paints and draws everything as if they were all made from smooth plaster.

    Actually, your biggest problem isn't the textures on all that stuff. That's just my way off keeping you busy for awhile so I can get some coffee. And even the beetle ain't that hard to draw--I mean--what are the odds yours will end up lookin' like a refrigerator or something dumb like that anyway? The BIG problem is what you're going to do with all those items.

    What you end up doing is called your composition. Your layout. It's the most important part of any art you will ever do. It's what makes you an artist, not a short-order cook.

    Whenever you start a drawing, you have to think for a few minutes about where everything should go. You do it without thinking when you draw a person. I mean, how many times have you accidentally drawn somebody's head where their left foot should be, and slapped yourself in the forehead later for makin' such a dumb mistake? What you have to do is determine where each item would work best in your picture, and in this case, what size it is. Is what you end up with kind of pleasing, or exciting? Does anything look out of place? Would your viewer think it was attractive? Does it look remotely believable?

    This sounds like a simple thing to cope with, and it generally is when you're dealing with something simple (like a paperclip...), but gets REALLY complicated when you do something with a few more elements in it, like maybe the Sistine Chapel Ceiling. And the more contradictory the elements, the more difficult the final composition becomes. That's why we're practicing here with little things--so you can be ready when the Pope calls about his ceiling...I'm thinkin' an off-white with lavender trim...
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    Bumpy! Woot! This is a good'un!
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    Hello there folks, joining in the fray here

    I've already gotten started. I've finished my piece of wood and bark, and am now turning to the piece of rough rock, and my favourite, a rhino beetle .

    Will post results soon.

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    Hmm, this sounds fun. I missed the official time period for the first class, but thankfully found this one early on. And this is addressing something I don't do enough of: drawing from life, and drawing stuff with texture. Things are a little crazy, but I'll try to get it done.
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    RabbiSatan (good name--I think I married your daughter, Spawn of Satan II, back in the 60s...), I noticed that you already have this started, but that you started with a piece of wood. I'm hoping that means that you've already worked out the composition that you're happy with...
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    Heheh, you have a lovely sense of humour

    But yes, I already thought out the composition - or at least I think I already have. If it isn't up to standard, I am ready to do another one

    Will post the finished result soon.

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    Hmm... I think I'll give this a go.... I don't have a scanner, so be prepared for *GASP* a photo of my drawing!

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    Well this one should be a healthy challenge.

    I have a question, though - can we use a photo reference? It's fall here and we're rather... lacking... in insects for the most part.

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    Go for it. I'm a firm believer in ref is where you find it. Otherwise, I'd be mopping floors for a living...
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    Let's see some works-in-progress! Show us your sketches! Don't be shy!
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    I'm on the road so it will be at least half from ref but I'll do one tonight. For shame people! Where's all the WIPS?

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    Where's this been? I didn't see it last night, and I did look.

    Okay, tomorrow........

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    I just registered with concept art..still trying to figure out how the forums and stuff work. Anywho this assignment looks like fun ^^ Plus i need practise as its been a while since i have picked up a pencil...sigh well here is my posting please let me know what you think!

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    PS Sorry about the quality i too am lacking a scanner so the cameras all i got right now ><

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    Here it is, I left it for a few days and decided to post it now.

    Also, can anyone point me in the right direction for drawing hands from imagination? Or anything related to hand construction? Thanks
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    This is my try, i'll color it as soon as posible.
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    I see we got goodies in! Cool...

    Give me a couple of hours this morning to find my glasses and pants (and the coffee pot...damn cats took it again...) and I'll post some thoughts for you all.
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    Here is mine:

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    I guess I totally failed the texture-part, I kinda cheated with doing just a tiny lady bug and sorry - no fancy surrealism. At least I managed to avoid cheap PS tricks. Argh, I need more practice...

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    I probably won't have the textures done by saturday (mainly because of work, and doing figure studies) - but here's the composition I was thinking of using, objects are labelled (if you can read them).

    I had to darken it greatly to get the lines to show up (they're very very light and sketchy) - need to also fix the perspective on the "wood" and "Cloth" - and if I keep the top of the screw, the top of the screw needs to be fixed perspectivewise .

    Anywho - composition:
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    Edit- As I look at it, I think I'm gonna crop it shorter vertically - making the bottom as well as the end of the 'wood' extend off the edges - basically making the wood take up the bottom 1/3 of the composition (that way it feels more comfortable) - this would also serve to make the image shape more pleasing, and accentuate further the triangular composition I was going for (well...deformed triangle...but I think you get what I mean )

    Oh, and sorry about the beetle, I just felt horrendously inclined to torture myself and make it flying (defying the "still life" concept unless it's dead and encapsulated in some acrylic )
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    This one is the scanned one:

    Sorry about the bleedin' glare spots. (camera in hotel room/laptop touch pad not accurate enough for touch up work)
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    If I read your brief right (and you know I'm not fluent in Ilaekae) you wanted us to draw all of these objects, but combine a maximum of 3 in a fantasy still life?

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    Those are the first three, that I won't be using in the still life. Off to work soon, though, so I'll do the still life tomorrow....

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    Okay...as careful as i thought I was, there seems to be a bit of confusion over what I meant.

    You were to do ALL six items. You were allowed to do more than one of the first two, but ONLY one EACH of the items listed as #3 on.

    I'm not going to get upset about that because it was obviously my fault the way I worded things. I'll be more accurate in the future. (No I won't--why lie? Hell, even I don't undrstand myself half the time...)
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    Under my beetle is a piece of date palm bark that was the closest I could find for the wood thing. It's not as easy to see in this image as it is on the paper. My leaf and stone are kind of indistinguishable in this image too. Don't strain your eyes trying to figure mine out. Tomorrow I will be home again and can try to get a good scan.

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    *sigh* Back to the drawing board.......

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    I think I probably over did the texture because it looks pretty messy
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    Well I was talking to my girl friend while drawing the cloth bag, and she was just whining to me about how bad I am with caring for her and all those crap (probably working her way towards breaking up with me). So, I pretty much lose 80% of my previous concentration right around there

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    D'oh! Is this class over with already? Just found it too.

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    Draw fast.

    (I've updated above with a reasonable scan).

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    Looks good so far...

    I'm a bit behind on reviews, got interrupted inside out yesterday. I'm working on what has been up and will post later today. Sorry for the delay...
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    Crap! I got side-tracked with school and another drawing project and forgot about this! Better luck next week, I guess.

    I like what everyone posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enrigo View Post
    (probably working her way towards breaking up with me).
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    I like the work u did on the textures!! ^^
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