Digital Painting In PS #2

[cateaic]

Here we go...

[magnel]

Cateaic, what can I say, I really want to see more.

I might have to sit down sometime this week and do a realistic apple and not do one of my speed paints.

[latimer]

Just curious, what IS the industry standard for dpi? 300?

[Jonish]

latimer, if I'm right, it's 72 for online use and 300 for printing... Anyway, you can work in higher res if you want to archieve more details and then use lower output resolution.
Sorry if I'm doing smartass from myself and am wrong, so in that case, correct me, please :-))

[latimer]

Ah I see, thanks. As far as I knew for sure, 300 dpi was industry standard for printing. I guess the only time you would achieve distortion in a painting would be if the PPI is out (like, eg: 300 pixels horizontal to 250 vertical pixels per inch)

[cateaic]

Didnt spend as much time on this one...its amazing how much of a difference a monitor setting makes on hue, saturation, and value in painting...it kinda sucks. Anyways, I did this on a pretty bright monitor...

[Trashy]

Great studies guys! keep it coming!

This is sorta a miniature bucket I had lying around. Decided to do a value study on it.

[grenappels]

magnel, try to get out of the habit of scratching at the lines you are going for, cause you'll never quite get them doing that. it doesn't matter much with painting, but just in general, it's good practice

[Jonish]

magnel: ah, sorry for late response, i got your advice at end of page so i didn't see it, i'll try that surely, i'm just kind of busy because of exams, and few cool books i have and want to read whole.

[RevoLverZ]

I tried to make an apple in photoshop with mouse. but i couldnt. So , I got nervous , I took tempera and paper... I have problems with blending colours in photoshop. It tooks a lot of time , and the effect is not so smooth like in your drawings.
I belive is very important having a wacom

[Jonish]

RevoLverZ: Wow, those blood colors are very impressing. Well... I blend in PS by using pen pressure at opacity and flow so you can't use this method, but meybe there's some else way to blend with mouse.

[RevoLverZ]

this wuz my desk after 1 hour searching for best tones.
johnish glad you share tips with me. It will take like a month for me to buy a tablet.
(I know is kinda offtopic but is an apple)
forgot : sorry for the mess )

[Virtuoso`]

first post here, awsome work all of you =D

first digipaint too

[latimer]

Not bad, But something isn't making it work for me. Whether its the background colour, or the highlights (look too soft, & the windshield is missing them.) & the hardness of the underlying shadow. Other than that, not bad at all for a first attempt.

[GriNGo]

gringoloco: Wow, that's great, I don't understand how can you make such a accurate shapes! In fact, that's the reason I left idea of painting such a things like speakers, computer, cups... etc.

I'm looking forward for more!

Hey man I kind of suck drawing straight lines, so drawing these kind of stuff is still hard for me.... when it get's too hard, i make my likfe simpler, by using the other photoshop tools, like the straight lasso, and make my straight selections with it, of the things I want to paint. It might be considered as "cheating" by some, but anyways, until my hand is accurate enough to draw very straight lines, the lasso tool will be my saviour.

hey magnel, the same speakers i already told you what I thought about the guitar, but I'll repeat it in here for the rest of the people: cleaner strokes, cleaner edges... don't be afraid of using the other Photoshop tools, like the pen tool to make accurate selections of your object, so you can paint inside them or outside them.

cateaic - your fruits are marvelous, and I love the attention to detail you give to them... I like observing your studies... I specially like post 271.

trashy - that's looking great! at first i thought you scanned that value study. you have quite a skill in making it look so natural.

revolverz - despite not being photoshop, it's a good study! i find it helpful to see how you made it, even if it's done with traditional media. If you hadn't mentioned that it was tempera, i would've sweared it was an excellent digital piece. hope you get your tablet soon!

virtuoso - welcome to CA.org man! great painting.... you really have some smooth lines there. the only problem i see in it is that there's no major light source, I don't see reflected light either, no ambient light. Try making certain lights stronger, I would like to see more contrast in your picture.

[grenappels]

revolverz, that is fucking awesome. traditional media is harder, trust me, kudos

[magnel]

grenappels - I think it varies for person, I love traditional, I'm an acrylic and pen and ink kind of guy, and it's real easy for me to sit down and paint with a brush, then sit down and do it on Photoshop. Whenever I can find my digital camera, or atleast find my USB cord for my scanner, I will post my traditional stuff in my sketch-o book-o

revolverz - like mentioned before, even though it's not digital, great study, very nice detail and overall color choice.

[RevoLverZ]

GriNGoLoCo , tnx man it was a pleasure for me.
grenappels , I am glad you like it. Uhm I think is harder because , you can`t easily put strong lights and white over dark colours. And you dont have ctrl alt z I love your fruits and vegetables. My favourite is the green one. I don`t know what it is but is well done. I like how it makes the eye focusing on those details on the surface , those scratches.
magnel , well thank you very much. you did a nice guitar too.

trashy , nice evolution of the painting , especially blending those gray tones.
I have some constructive crits for that drawing. Hope it will be helpful and next time take it in consideration.

[magnel]

I eventually went back and fixed it, an updated version is on my Sketch book.

I'd like to see more, I really enjoy the feel of that apple, revolverz.

[magnel]

Yea, it's a bottle of the best beverage in the world. I think it's overall shape isn't right but, I figured what the heck, I haven't posted anything (not that I have gotten any better)

[Jonish]

"This was meant to be a speedpaint, after 15 minutes it looked promising, but then I stopped thinking and got stuck at the shadow at outer wall of cup for couple of hours. So now it's ordinary study, I tried to focus mainly on ambient light, because I think that it was criticized a lot." (same text from sketchbook, no reason to write the same thing again)

Well.. what do you think about that crappy ambient light, I hope that I got it better than in my older studies. Crits are warmly welcome.

[serhc]

Shou told me about this, but I've only recently actually gotten around to do it:

Supposed to be a very orange grapefruit, chose a bad angle though, so it just looks like an orange

would love some c+c :]

[Jonish]

serhc, nice to see your grapefruit... or orange. If I were you, (of course, i'm too pedant, but..) I would work out the overall shape a bit more. I don't like especially things on central part of left edge and upper right edge, about centimeter to rightside of the thingie like stem ;-)

[cateaic]

Jonish:

lol...I do that to with studies too, I start out trying to do something quick but it turns out longer than expected =)

I think you chose a good subject to paint. Objects that have more structure than a piece of fruit are definately more challenging because they require you to be exact, for example, the top elipse on your cup. I think RevoLvrez make a good point about this above. Try using a shape tool to get that exact elipse you want, it makes things so much easier...the program is doing the work for you! I like your color palette, it pops things out in all the right places.

Take your painting and put the mode to Greyscale in photoshop. Youll notice that there is no "Core" shadow. Make it more transitional from highlight, halftone, core shadow, and reflected light. For example: were your halftone meets the hightlight. That core should meet the edge of your reflected light. I know that the core shadow doesnt show up as much in ambient lighting but the pinciple is the same in most all lighting. Even if you have to fake it a little it will go a long way in giving your object more depth.

I do like the fact that you werent afraid to go pretty dark considering it was ambient light...thats a good example for me because sometimes I can get caught up in the subtleties.

[Jonish]

Cateaic, thanks a lot for spending time on my crit!

Yes, I think that I see it now in grayscale, the gradient on the cup wall is a lot like daaaark-suddenly light with not enough midtone. I recallected Revolverz' post and I think that I also had a brief look on it, but I think that I used elipse tool for bottom line only because I wasn't content with its shape.

[ChristianWeeks]

Heres a red pepper i did.... Surprisingly, I sat down and went through the whole thing without getting distracted or doing something else. My 2nd fruit item in this thread..... I accidentally made the red hue too dark.
The apple was my first item in this thread but it got no feedback... It isnt very good but it was really my first try in photoshop and a wacom.
So, comments please

I'm going to try and become more active in this thread from now on

[Jonish]

Christian, apple looks great, as I'm looking at it, I think that such a fresh apple got some comments already. First thing which "bangs" into my eyes is background. Of course in this case background isn't very important, but that doodle there spoils overall impression. Stem looks cool, but doesn't it get wider at the upper end? Black colour below apple doesn't fit there so much, I don't know why, I can't identify if it's too dark shadow or some part of apple. Then the most dark green is too "sharp edged" imho. These were the bad things. I'd like to add that if I don't mention the bg doodle, overall impression is stunning and fresh!

Pepper is also great, there's not a bg doodle so it looks like you already found out that it wasn't fitting. Colours are also great, compared to apple, they cause pepper to look wonderfully plastic! I haven't seen your original pepper, so I can't tell you if it had to be thinner at the bottom. That weird thing on stem look weird, but I hope that it really was there, because otherwise you wouldn't keep it.

Keep going, I'm looking forward to more of your studies!

PS Playing smartass again, whee! I'm getting your crits so I don't want to owe you anything :-)

[Riala]

Is there anything 'simple' that you people can suggest I start on?

I seem completely incapable of using my graphics tab or a mouse to draw anything at all, even the sketch looks like a 5 year old did it

[ChristianWeeks]

thanks a ton for the crit jonish, i really appreciate it.
I'll have to comment on your upcoming pictures I can't beg for feedback and not give any to anybody else, now can I?

As for the background for the apple... Yeah, i dont know what i was thinking. I shouldve just left it white. And the stem for the peppper just had a little thing peeling off, so thats what that little deformity is.

Riala, what have you tried to draw so far? I just skimmed over the last several pages real quickly and didnt see any pictures by you. Try simple things, like fruits, that have smooth textures and are mainly monochromatic. Its much easier to draw a plain red apple than to draw a half ripe reddish yellowish apple with a hint of green here and there.
Also, what may look to you like a 5 year old drawing may not look like that to us. Even if you dont think the picture is good, if you are done, post it up here and we can give some constructive criticism, or tell you that you are crazy and that the picture is really good. Its always impossible for an artist to grade his own picture... or in my experience it is atleast.

[monsi]

Found this thread and wanted to give it a go. Cheers for this min :]

I actually spent about 2 - 2.5 hours on this. Not exactly a completely finished result, but I'm tired and want to sleep. I'll be doing more of this though. Bloody hard shit I really tried to get the colours right, don't think I succeeded too well

First digital thing I've done in months

Not overjoyed with it. Especially for how long it took :|