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Thread: The Royalty Problem - News: Brad got paid from TAD

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    apparently Elwell has jumped ship.

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    this thread has an enormous feeling of "calm before the storm"...there will be an explanation, but damned if I know what it is...

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    McLean - That's understood, I will take that on board, it's just that these are very serious allegations, so I would be interested in seeing the response. Apparently there exists lots of proof of these underhand doings, so that would speak fr itself.

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    TAD has issued a statement to Brad which I hope people will be happy with ....
    Umm Im not sure if its my place to post the response, If I need to remove this or anything someone let me know.

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    The TAD response to the Deviant Art post by B. Rigney:

    Brad-

    I am sorry your situation has gotten to this point!

    It has not been my personal position to deal with the royalty issues related to the ConceptArt.org videos, however I will at this point make it my responsibility. I will make sure you are paid and the ConceptArt.org Royalties will become part of my responsibility from this point on.

    Again I am sorry for your imposition and will do everything in my power to assist you in righting this wrong.

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    Cool I was about to post that here

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    TAD has issued a statement to Brad which I hope people will be happy with ....
    Umm Im not sure if its my place to post the response, If I need to remove this or anything someone let me know.

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    The TAD response to the Deviant Art post by B. Rigney:

    Brad-

    I am sorry your situation has gotten to this point!

    It has not been my personal position to deal with the royalty issues related to the ConceptArt.org videos, however I will at this point make it my responsibility. I will make sure you are paid and the ConceptArt.org Royalties will become part of my responsibility from this point on.

    Again I am sorry for your imposition and will do everything in my power to assist you in righting this wrong.

    John English
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    "the financial department at TAD, his personal legal council, co-founder of TAD and other faculty had all been copied into the conversation by Mr Manley himself"

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    yea guys, as dave mentioned and as i messaged john english about via da, brad already said everyone was copied into these series of emails. them issuing a public apology and saying they didnt know it was happening is just as bull as not paying him in the first place.
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    damage control is all that is. it shouldnt have come to this.

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    The response from TAD is the bare minimum, considering how bullshit it is to be in the business of art and design already,
    this stuff should not happen in the first place amongst artists.
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    Shit man.. i bought like half the library of videos they were selling.. i'm ashamed that now that money is in the pockets of a thief...
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    I'm sorry, I did not want to make this post, as I felt it was a bit pretentious...but I owe it to you guys, cos you were there for me when I was sick and I'll never forget that.

    I can't take part here anymore though, not right now at least. I'm sure I'll hook up with you scallywags on the WWW.
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    I just want to ask if there's a way we can donate to the artists that have made these videos that are still seeking payment? I mean I just don't feel right, need a "Humble Bundle" for artists making these videos.

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    I just want to ask if there's a way we can donate to the artists that have made these videos that are still seeking payment? I mean I just don't feel right, need a "Humble Bundle" for artists making these videos.
    Thats sounds like a good and honest idea, but then again... well me at least, i just cant justify the action, having to buy art supplies all the time and stuff, now if i had some extra extra cash then i would definitely go for it, and i think most of us are in the same situation. I think that instead of gathering funds for our fallen brothers we could focus on exposing the culprits as the thieves they are. *cough* Manley*cough*
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    It took me two months of contacting TAD/CA.org to get one of my videos D:. Was such a long wait.

    They're just slow in general. It's so unfortunate this is happening, and the damage control is already very obvious. There's a reason I tend to post here a lot less than I did a couple years ago. Hope things get better...

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    Really? What do you mean "Jumped ship?" He's still posting and none of his recent posts indicate anything like that.
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    Never liked the dude. I believe what Cryptcrawler is saying, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlyhazard View Post
    It took me two months of contacting TAD/CA.org to get one of my videos D:. Was such a long wait.

    They're just slow in general. It's so unfortunate this is happening, and the damage control is already very obvious. There's a reason I tend to post here a lot less than I did a couple years ago. Hope things get better...



    Really? What do you mean "Jumped ship?" He's still posting and none of his recent posts indicate anything like that.
    check his Facebook.

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    I just wanted to say that I take this very seriously and sent this over to management at TAD as soon as it came to my attention this evening as TAD handles all video finances, and has done so for over three years.

    It is true that Brad and I have had a somewhat volatile professional relationship, and while we have had our differences and disagreements, I have nothing but respect for what he does and consider him of the most talented designers and illustrators in the industry. If he, or anyone else is owed something, they need to be paid. There are no if's and or buts about it. Neither I personally, nor does ConceptArt.org, have any access to video royalty payment information at all as that has been handled by TAD finance, but those that do have been informed that they need to check into this immediately, and I believe that TAD has made a response that John English will be taking responsibility for any errors that may have occurred.


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    Ayo Jason, how much money would you sell Conceptart.org for? I know there are some rich artists on here that would take pleasure in relinquishing this gem from you for a fair price.

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    i just need to ask in case (in all likelihood) brad shares the emails he has backed up. are you saying that the conversations he mentions in his post never occurred? that he made up these accusations and that you never spoke to him in the terms he described while you were working with tad? i think with a matter like this thats so public its very important to be clear about this- for all of us here on the forum and for everyone out there who may look to work with any of the entities involved in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Manley View Post
    I just wanted to say that I take this very seriously and sent this over to management at TAD as soon as it came to my attention this evening as TAD handles all video finances, and has done so for over three years.

    It is true that Brad and I have had a somewhat volatile professional relationship, and while we have had our differences and disagreements, I have nothing but respect for what he does and consider him of the most talented designers and illustrators in the industry. If he, or anyone else is owed something, they need to be paid. There are no if's and or buts about it. Neither I personally, nor does ConceptArt.org, have any access to video royalty payment information at all as that has been handled by TAD finance, but those that do have been informed that they need to check into this immediately, and I believe that TAD has made a response that John English will be taking responsibility.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Main Loop View Post
    check his Facebook.
    I'm on it but don't see anything. Do you have to have him added?
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    I've watched this play out since Brad Rigney's article appeared on Deviant Art. I see a lot of angry words floating around in the comments there and here. A lot of bad blood I don't know anything about.

    It's worrying and I feel a bit sick to my stomach right now. But I'm going to wait and see how things pan out because I'm very much a proponent of fairness and hearing all sides of every story.

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    And for clarity, no one is going to get banned.
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    Ok I'm out for now sorry but it's hard back up and support this forum at this time specially when someone(s) was dragged along for so long and not get paid.

    I just really was concerned for the artists being paid, but the "hur hur visit my forum" and other obnoxious shit isn't making it friendly to go to to those options either. It feels just as skeevy as the topic of this thread.

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    But in all seriousness it makes me sad that nobody truly owned up to this.
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