punching bag

**Devils Jester** · May 4th, 2006, 12:58 PM

been sittin' on this for a week or so. This i did for fun and some anatomy practice of the back and arm interaction, and back and leg interaction. I also did some more fold experimentation and such with a background. Any C&C are welcome and wanted(and i mean it).

Sorry its real bright, i'll go back and darken it.

**Jason Rainville** · May 4th, 2006, 01:11 PM

His arm/hand should be longer/larger

His face is turn way too much toward us.

It's good that you're experimenting with folds, as it's a pretty hard thing to master. A general rule is that when a part of the person is stretching, the cloth stretches too and has straight lines of folds going to the stretched area.

There should be some lines going from most parts of the back to the outstetched arm (which I think you did ok) but those 'flame' decals are really screwing with it and confusing my eye a tad.

EDIT: Oh, and good start and happy drawing

**asoir** · May 4th, 2006, 01:13 PM

The head looks strange, the neck looks as if its looking away from the bag but the head isn't...if you try and shape up the neck (ie.stretch marks to show he's twisting his head, look up reference) it could be improved.

**Devils Jester** · May 4th, 2006, 05:07 PM

thanx, i tried the stretch thing but it looked a little weird but when i darken it up i'll add them

**Jason Rainville** · May 4th, 2006, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Devils Jester

thanx, i tried the stretch thing but it looked a little weird but when i darken it up i'll add them

I'm tellin' ya, his head shouldn't be twisted that much

Toss a punch and note where your head is, I'll betcha that turning it 90 degrees is preety uncomfortable, especially with a quick movement like that.

I could be wrong though, (maybe it's his shoulder position that looks odd also)so try the move out in a mirror (or use a digicam) and try to get some basic reference for the head position.

**Devils Jester** · May 5th, 2006, 12:59 PM

i saw what you ment with the head and so i tried to fix the jaw line so it didn't look like he has rubber neck and also a another i just fininshed.

Thanx you guys

**Jason Rainville** · May 5th, 2006, 01:06 PM

Not to sound like an asshat, but I don't think you're getting what I mean. His head is still looking in the same direction, now he just has a thinner jaw.

If you moved his nose/eye/mouth over to the right, I'd say you'd be on the right track.

**Devils Jester** · May 8th, 2006, 09:12 AM

i realized that right after i re-posted it

**AldoKatayanagi** · May 8th, 2006, 12:10 PM

Those proportions are funky and the motion of the punching guy is totally unnatural. Do some studies of bone and muscle structure to understand how things are constructed so you can understand how they move.

**glyph** · May 8th, 2006, 12:45 PM

Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist

or

How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way

excellent resources, I think, for studying anatomy, and size relationships... There are ways to help with proportion simply by referencing the size of the hand...

From there I'd say draw draw draw.... You're getting there with the folds of cloth in the shirt... nice detail. But from what I see, you are more concerned with getting a perfect outside line than a relaxed (flowing) and natural character. Save your perfect lines for last. Abandon the line.

Keep Drawing...

and let's see some progress.

CHEERS!

**Devils Jester** · May 9th, 2006, 09:04 AM

what do you mean by perfect lines? (i actually have one of those books that's amazing i never have anything)

**glyph** · May 9th, 2006, 10:56 AM

Well, you're rushing to polish and reduce your outside line to the point where you're neglecting your character... The lines are rigid and forced into rank and file. Relax and let the line flow... let there be multiple lines, produce a "sketchy" look... Let your hand wander.. feel the picture and abandon making the line perfect and singular. And for practice in relaxing, don't make a hundred tiny sketch lines, that just makes fur, make long lines, arc-ing lines

And reference your book for proportions... there are a couple aspects of the body you can use to reference others and bring them into proportion

Let it flow, Luke!

**Devils Jester** · May 9th, 2006, 12:50 PM

thanx i wasn't quite sure what you meant, the reason the lines are dark and stuff is it's te only way i coould get it to come up the scanner well. I'll experiment and see what i can do. thanx again