Art of Grief

[Grief]

another egon schiele style portrait.

[Grief]

hey congrats on making it to page 3.

thanks me!

heres some squares.
made about 400, but got really bored scanning them in.

[Beta_v1]

great style man.
i really like your art.

[Grief]

quick figures, trying out new line quality.
3-10mins each.

nothing much

[Grief]

1-"Pale" graffiti. abstracted letterforms without any context, i don't get it either. graphite and digital.

2-comic page. ink n' digital

[kev ferrara]

I'm diggin' the graphik schiele thing you got goin' on here. Lot of power and creepy sensuality. Nice.

If you're willing to entertain a crit, I would recommend a little more life drawing and doing the Bridgman thing... copying his anatomy books over into your notebooks line for line. This activity tends to accelerate progress in talented artists.

I'm also a little bit disturbed by the kiddie porn stuff, but hey, its a free country.

On technique, pencil isn't great for cross hatching to create tone, especially when you can just smear the pencil and that gives you a nice soft even tone which contrasts with harder edged lines elsewhere. (see frazetta's stuff from illustrations arcanum, for instance)

Best,
kev

[Grief]

I would recommend a little more life drawing and doing the Bridgman thing... copying his anatomy books over into your notebooks line for line. This activity tends to accelerate progress in talented artists.

i'm currently reading bridgman's complete guide to drawing from life, master class in figure drawing by robert hale, and the human figure by vanderpoel. ive been going about them slowly to make sure that i'm not just reading over the words, but that i'm comprehending what is being said.

i fully agree with you, and i will undertake a similar task of emulating and teaching my hand to interperete what i'm learning. i understand that this isn't an overnight transformation, and that just by having good rescources as reference wont make me a better artist. i'm slowly seeing more accurately and teaching my hand to act less stylistically, if only one successful line per composition and invisible to the viewer, i'm making progress.

this may sound awkward to those who havent had the experience, but Art School really detracts a lot of time away from creating art. thing like 'learning anatomy' are aspects you do on your own time outside of projects. its frusterating how derailed the education process gets away from the act of creating, theres times when i dont touch my sketchbook for weeks in relation to classroom projects. the truly sad part is the number of life drawing classes i have already taken and passed, just because the standard is so low (and most art schools are diploma factories), where i didnt actually learn anything and all my time in front of models was basically wasted effort because i was doing things ass-backwards.

I'm also a little bit disturbed by the kiddie porn stuff, but hey, its a free country.

heh, im surprised this wasn't mentioned before. i was involved in a printmaking group edition swap where we all did a sexual theme motif. some people did homo-erotica, masturbation, passion, lust, fetishes, etc. my subject was molestation, which given the topic i feel i handled fairly tastefully. where because of a sequential format what isn't seen is more disturbing than what is seen. the image posted here was a digital mock-up that i later made into a screenprint, which looks about the same.

On technique, pencil isn't great for cross hatching to create tone, especially when you can just smear the pencil and that gives you a nice soft even tone which contrasts with harder edged lines elsewhere. (see frazetta's stuff from illustrations arcanum, for instance)

i'm not sure why ive been doing that. i havent been handling gradation of tone with any success as of late. i dont have a good reason for why i've been doing sloppy hatching and cross-hatching.

thanks for the feedback, you've given me some things to keep in mind.
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here's a sideproject i whipped out today:
416 2x2 inch painted cardboard squares.

not sure where i'm going to put it yet, there's a lot of empty bulletin boards on campus that could use the asskickery of megaman.

[FactorZero]

Haha...that mega man is badass!

[Grief]

a month of unproductive winter vacation has come to an end.
i discovered i need to be isolated to produce work, otherwise ideas will come and no focus will allow the creative outlet to give fruition to the concept.

i am unable to tell if i'm learning anything and my explorations merit any answers. i am burning with passion for art, and aching to rape my sketchbook.

i'm anxious about my own productivity, as though for the first time i do not have anyone leering over my work, restricting my subject matter and method.

somewhere along my art education process i became a total pussy. no longer with the intensity and anger of which i used to attack my blank pages. i slowed my rate of work, bit my tongue and did what was asked of me, never fully investing my own motivation into my school work. a dichotomy which has hurt my growth as an artist.

i'm close to graduation, with minimal art classes left to tackle. 2008 is exciting to me, i have no idea where i'll end up, where my newfound free time will take my work.

... i ramble too much

(first two are based off photos via the internet)

[Grief]

drew this today while enjoying the Revelations streaming broadcast.

allá Tsutomu Nihei

[grenappels]

another egon schiele style portrait.

haha as i was looking through this (w/o reading) i thought "who does he think he is, egon schiele?" until i hit that. i think your last post was a step in the right direction. if you don't ditch anime, which would be my suggestion, at least make it sharper and more realistic. you've got good studies going, so keep them up. a little tedious, boring drawing makes for a lot of fun drawing in the end.

and you're sooo emo. had to say it. cheers

[Eon]

Very hip graphic design style you have going. I too like the punkier stuff over the anime influences. Am I mistaken to think I recognize some Suicide Girls? Keep up the good work, more vandalism!

[Grief]

a direct pose ripped off an anime pic,
scrambled with Nihei~esque character design,
squeezed through a juicing machine to get rid of depth and tone,
spaghetti strain to remove color,
add three pinches of emo,
scrub away countour lines,
screw up anatomy of feet and try hideous wings,
blend with splatter brushes and thin scratchy lines,
serve with alcohol

[Grief]

another in this stylization, only this time i cheated and did it as a digital photocollage. it was a lot easier to achieve the same relative look without illustrating every aspect, but less rewarding.

i'll probably re-work this into something more complex and satisfying. more of a design layout practice than figure illustration.

PS- mannequin pose ref. see? what a let down, i know.

[Grief]

i did this while watching RAW last night, trying to recall the character design of Ryu from Breath of Fire III.

[Grief]

i have a thing for girls in thick framed glasses.



and by 'thing' i mean penis.

[Grief]

linework from imagination, ink scanned then digitally altered.
images used in coloring:
broken glass
concrete wall

i'm guilty of a few filters on this as well.

[FinalKnight]

Grief!

You are one of my favourite artists here one CA. Love the variety in your work.

Not so much of a critique, more of an observation, it seems like a lot of your work is stuck halfway between realistic design and abstract design. In posts 71, 74 & 75 there appears to be enough detail so that the pieces achieve a level of realistic design, but the way the figures are proportioned make the piece look very abstract and cartoony. It gives me a weird, "is this suppose to be real or cartoon" feeling and as a result seems to lend itself towards an amateurish quality and implants in my head questions as to whether or not you know how to draw (which isn't a good thing).

Remedies for this would be to study anatomy and proportions like has been mentioned. However, alternatively and oppositely maybe you could try experimenting with shapes instead of easily identifiable objects (legs, arms, eyes). Use a shape to define the body or the eye instead of trying to make something look exactly right.

I have no idea what I'm talking about though. Just admiring your work and had to justify this post with some random observation.

[Grief]

those are all valid points. as i wonder myself if i can even draw.

anatomy and foreshortening are high priorities on my list of things i need to get a grasp of.

[Grief]

english notes

[ccsears]

right on, man. i dig the punk rock b/w style you're leaning towards. just keep taking it farther.

[Grief]

bridgman studies.

[Grief]

downloaded some new hair brushes for this one.

ive provided the ink linework which i stopped drawing once i foresaw the finished product in my mind and realized it'd be easier digitally.

[Grief]

same hair samples as last post
and concrete grey alternate.

[Grief]

recent bad sketches, done in class with much haste.

[king_scribbles]

Thanks for the books, (it's only been like five minutes havent looked yet) EXCELLENT art too...damn. I don't know how to vector at all...Anyway your style is very slick.

[malvado1]

You are my type of guy. I love people who draw manga.Love your art, but its not perfect yet. Lol sry wish I could say more.

[Diphallia]

This was one of the first sketchbooks I saw on CA.
Back then I thought it was cool, now I think it's even cooler.

Can't see why I have not posted in here before.
Keep it up on the anatomy studies!

btw, loved your photoshop of my warlord actually laughed out loud.

[Grief]

Thanks for the books, (it's only been like five minutes havent looked yet) EXCELLENT art too...damn. I don't know how to vector at all...Anyway your style is very slick.

you're welcome for the book links. as for the work, its all ink on paper or the line tool on photoshop. yes the line tool. i never fully learned the pen tool because for some odd reason it behaves in a different manner in photoshop and in illustrator. all of my work is pixel based, but i'd love to go through and change it all to vectors someday so i can retain image clarity at scale changes.

You are my type of guy. I love people who draw manga.Love your art, but its not perfect yet. Lol sry wish I could say more.

male ego +25 exp.
lvl 2 Grief Fanservice.

This was one of the first sketchbooks I saw on CA.
Back then I thought it was cool, now I think it's even cooler.

thanks.
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a few doodles from class.
-my art history teacher kept saying "atomically correct", which was annoying me greatly.
-and figures from imagination.

[Grief]

with influence of jones, winged cap n' all