WIP: a killer's passion [7/17]

**killing.people** · July 17th, 2003, 11:24 AM

this is where i am at:

advice and your gift of opinion would be greatly respected.

-kill

**killing.people** · July 17th, 2003, 11:30 AM

progress pics:

playing with color:

**AmadorL** · July 17th, 2003, 12:32 PM

dude these are nice! I like the color study you did....
It look like if you had no ref, right?

A

**killing.people** · July 17th, 2003, 04:01 PM

thats correct, no reference - hence the crazy anatomy that doesnt make any sense. :p

**zeroe** · July 17th, 2003, 06:53 PM

wicked

i love the progress pics

he'S squezzing her nippel oO

no crits from me

**thomasaurus** · July 17th, 2003, 07:04 PM

the crazy anatomy features are crazy stylish! I like it!

**el_kyrre** · July 17th, 2003, 07:42 PM

thats some crazy stuff you got there!

i really like it so far, and i think you´re doing pretty good!

I can´t tell you anything about color, because i just suck at it, but there is one thing that came to my attention.

I see that you changed the direction of the girls view...

I think the first one was better, where she is looking slightly up. It looks more as if she is dead, lifeless... But in a way that suggests that she used to be alive.

The second version, where she looks straight at the person just looks dead... As if she had never been alive... looks more like a doll to me.

Hope I did make any sense!
keep it up dude!
el_kyrre

**Jeff Gran** · July 18th, 2003, 12:34 AM

I think you need to work on her facail expression. In the original sketch it looks like she's surprised to be dying, like I'd expect her to look. When she's looking up it looks like she's already dead. and doesn't feel the pain, this could work depending on how long it's been... when she's looking straight ahead you almost can't tell she's even being killed. It DOEs look like he's twisting her nipple. If you want it to be kind of unclear, then good job. If you want it to be really creepy and disturbing, emphasize her expression and the knife.

**Tedsuo** · July 18th, 2003, 02:30 AM

That is totally wicked.

I agree that her jaw should be open a bit, a bit more of a scream, and maybe a bit more of the knife poking through to make it more clear (assuming it's clarity you're going for).

I like the funky anatomy. The only place I think it breaks down a bit is her neck. You left off the trapezius muscles, so his hand is cutting into where the back of her neck should be. I see you playing with the front of the neck in your wip's; if you push out the back of her neck a bit it will let you tuck in the front to get that nice curve you had before.

Your stuff is always sweetly twisted, and I think the sickly green monotone totally works.

**sepulveda** · July 18th, 2003, 03:32 AM

whoaaaa, I didn't even notice the knife until someone pointed it out, I went for the nipple theory first.......very good piece though, and cool step by step process.

**BluePencilArtist** · July 18th, 2003, 08:13 AM

Very nice and it is kind hard tell that he have knive or he squezzing her nipple.
Another wise, it is very damn good.......
:chug:

**killing.people** · July 19th, 2003, 06:21 PM

some really good feed-back, thank you for taking time out to spit your teeth at me.

bluepencilartist & sepulveda:
i tried to make the knife stabbing obscure but not hidden. i made her breast more apparent to try to conceal the blade, as if he were sneaking the stab. i liked the effect where you looked at it longer and notice neat things about it, which is impossible for me to plan ahead of time just because i 'aint that leet. :p
thanks for your comments.

:chug:

tedsuo:
very nice, thank you for your input bro.

jeff gran:
very accurate analysis and advice, thank you for your input.
i played some with her expression. i like the lazy drugged-up/rolling eyes indeed. its amazing what a single storke can communicate; just amazing.

i was hoping to capture a startled sadness or dissopointment, but a look of acceptance; she didnt expect to be hurt, but can understand why.
at any rate i did some variations, i think the mouth and shading on the nose played a large role aswell:

please feel free to tell me what aspects you like.

el_kyrre:
while painting over the sketch i was playing with different changes and liked her dead looking wandering eyes, but to portray a shocked emotion from her to better contrast with his relaxed smile i was trying to capture a sense of bewilderment from her. its halfway working, it needs work. though, maybe something different would better suffice.
i think what makes her eye look dead is the way the pupil is rendered, that in which it is foggyy and blurry, and when she is looking forward it is high in contrast. thank you for your comments.

jnorish:
thanks for the compliment on my zany anatomy, its apparent i need to study my anatomy better and stop hidding what i dont know.
(i like the stylized anatomy too) :p

zeroe:
thanks, and no he isnt squeezing her nipple! :p

the guys hand and neck are a problem i think, and the backgrounds layout i feel could better help the overall composition of the piece.

a friend of mine offered the idea of having blood dripping off his stabbing hand to help draw the viewers attention. i want it suddle. i dont mind if the viewer thinks he is fondling her nipple, but i would like to have the view to notice she is being stabbed; nice little challenge.. i guess.
i think maybe a small amount of blood in the corner of her mouth or a tear might hint to what we are looking for here.

because the anatomy is so botched, i cant polish it too high, or it may look bad, we will see, thanks for everyone's interest.

killing.sercretly

**killing.people** · August 12th, 2003, 03:12 AM

i finally got a new tablet, my aiptek was possessed by a demon. i bought an actual 'wacom', its lovely.
here is an update on my month old work in progress.

i need fresh eyes. tell me what you think, (like or dont like) and if you have the audacity, a crit.
and a different color of font so i dont get teased for my gold font anymore.

**bizarre** · August 12th, 2003, 12:41 PM

oh, now i see it. I didn't get the "killer" part until the very last pic.

me, personally, i'd have her wide eyed, sorta. or making eye contact with the guy. shocked.

You got the guy's expression dead on, though. it's just sick. sick. sick. i love it. He's stabbing her through the ribs and out the back and gettin' some lovin' at the same time... what fun.

I could recommend her fingers spread wider, like she's recoiling in shock, or maybe some of his hair is over it, like she just jerked her hand up.

i dont know if you want it that way, but the wronkles on her face and her facial structure just make it seem a bit masculine, but... whatever.

flame me if you want

**Sammy** · August 13th, 2003, 01:38 AM

oh wow! that's great! .. I never even saw the knife ... I thought he was tweakin' her nips...

I say take the blood out and keep it hidden like before .. It makes a nice psychological study depending on who sees a knife and who sees niples being pinched.. kick ass!

**Android** · August 13th, 2003, 01:53 PM

the original sketch is so passionate, i really love its rawness, i think i am also attracted to the suprised facial reaction of the penetrated figure, it looked like a titty twister at first and i thought that was kind of cool.

it looks great and shows alot of personal progress, great work killing

as for collors, i like the monochromatic look, but mabye the two figures can be slightly different hues to sugest more of the emotional contrast between the figures

**killing.people** · August 14th, 2003, 08:00 AM

i changed her eye back to the original sketched idea, same as before, only i changed the eye a bit. i smootheds ome of her wrinkles. and took the color out of it to see the values better.

i played with a background, i just reacted to an idea but, i dont like it. the perspective chosen doesnt match those of the subjects and is too much i feel that takes away from the subject. i dont know what i am going to do with her ..