Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Mixed Masters - 020

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 02:12 AM

OFDW 020: Dec. 5 - Jan. 5 , 2007

Welcome to the TWENTIETH thread of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop!

This is a Workshop that is being run concurrently on CGTalk's Anatomy Forum:

Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Mixed Masters - 020

You are encouraged to post your work either to this thread or to the thread on CGTalk, or both. PLEASE POST YOUR WORK HERE AND NOT JUST TO YOUR PERSONAL SKETCHBOOK THREADS, AS THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THE WORKSHOP - TO SEE WORK ALL TOGETHER.

This workshop is open to any medium and any style. Some informal moderation
will be gladly provided ~ however, the purpose of the Workshop is for Artists to
interact with and informally critique one another’s work.

The goal of this Workshop is to COMPLETE one or more FINISHED Master Copies.This is unlike the Anatomy Lesson Series in which the goal is quantity. Here, it's QUALITY of one or two finished pieces.

Reference Source:
www.artrenewal.org

Choice 01:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Biondina
Oil on canvas, 1879
20 1/2 x 16 1/4 inches (52.1 x 41.3 cm)
Hamburger Kunsthalle, Hamburg

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 02:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Odalisque
Oil on canvas, 1862
Private collection

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 03:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
A Bather
Oil on canvas
Private collection

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 04:
Lord Frederick Leighton (1830-1896)
Clytemnestra
Oil on canvas
Private collection

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 05:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Baronne James de Rothschild, née Betty von Rothschild
Oil on canvas, 1848
55 3/4 x 39 3/4 inches (141.9 x 101 cm)

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 06:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Copy after Ingres's 1804 Self-Portrait
Oil on canvas, c.1850-1860
34 x 27 1/2 inches (86.4 x 69.9 cm)

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 07:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Madame Marie Marcotte (Marcotte de Sainte-Marie), née Suzanne-Clarisse de Salvaing de Boissieu
Oil on canvas, 1826
36 1/2 x 29 1/8 inches (93 x 74 cm)

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 08:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Princesse Albert de Broglie, née Joséphine-Eléonore-Marie-Pauline de Galard de Brassac de Béarn
Oil on canvas, 1853
47 3/4 x 35 5/8 inches (121.3 x 90.8 cm)

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 09:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Oil on canvas, 1824-1834
Musée Ingres, Montauban

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 10:
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Oil on canvas, 1824-1834
Musée Ingres, Montauban

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 11:
Lambert-Sigisbert Adam (1700-1759)
Neptune Calming the Waves
Marble, 1737
Musée du Louvre, Paris

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 12:
After Leochares
Apollo Belvedere
Marble, c.200
Pio-Clementine Museum, The Vatican

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 14:
Alessandro Algardi (1598-1654)
Titan
Terracotta, c.1650-1659
Hermitage, St Petersburg

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 15:
Alessandro Algardi (1598-1654)
Sleep
Marble, 1635
Galleria Borghese, Rome

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 16:
Friedrich von Amerling (1803-1887)
Mutter Und Kinden
Oil on canvas laid down on panel
55 7/8 x 44 inches (142.2 x 111.8 cm)
Private collection

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 17:
Eugène-Emmanuel Amaury-Duval (1808-1885)
La Naissance de Venus [The Birth of Venus]
Oil on canvas, 1862
77 1/2 x 42 7/8 inches (196.85 x 108.90 cm)
Musée des Beaux-Arts, Lille

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 18:
Bartolomeo Ammanati (1511-1592)
Victory
Marble, 1540
Museo Nazionale del Bargello, Florence

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 19:
Ferdinando Andreini (1843-)
Woman At The Well
Marble
31 x 79 inches (79 x 200.7 cm)
Private collection

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 20:
Dirck van Baburen (1590-1624)
Prometheus Being Chained by Vulcan
Oil on canvas, 1623
79 1/2 x 72 3/8 inches (202 x 184 cm)
Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

Choice 21:
Caravaggio (1571-1610)
Amor Victorious
Oil on canvas, 1602-1603
61 3/8 x 44 3/8 inches (156 x 113 cm)
Staatliche Museen, Berlin

LINK A
LINK B (same ref. as above)

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 02:16 AM

RULES FOR THE THREADS

1. Photographs are the property of www.artrenewal.org.

2. The drawings created from the photo reference provided here MUST be TASTEFUL,SINCERE, RESPECTFUL, and for the purpose of serious study of the human figure. Those who post silly, disrespectful, or tasteless work will have their posts deleted immediately and will no longer be allowed to post on this thread.

3. This Workshop will run from Dec. 5, 2006 - Jan. 5, 2007.

4. There is NO LIMIT to the NUMBER of posts an artist may make. However, we ask that you post only your BEST WORK, even if it is considered unfinished.

5. Artists who post comments and critiques of other artists' work on this thread must be RESPECTFUL, POLITE, and offer CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. Flaming will be NOT be tolerated, and constitutes dismissal from this and other threads.

6. I will be offering the occasional comments / critique ~ however, the main focus of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads should be on Group Critique and interaction.

7. ANY MEDIUM or STYLE may be used: Traditional or Digital Drawing or Painting, Gestural, Sketch, Finished Render, etc.

8. 3D Artists who wish to use the reference for 3D models are free to do so.

9. Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!

10. Please post your WIP and finished work to this thread.

11. Have fun, enjoy, and create great art!

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PLEASE NOTE: WIP (Work In Progress) images are an important part of the OFDWs and are encouraged. Please DO post WIP images as you work on your pieces.

PLEASE NOTE THAT ANY USE OF PAINTINGS WHICH ARE RELIGIOUS IN NATURE IS IN NO WAY AN ENDORSEMENT OF RELIGION OF ANY KIND.

PLEASE NOTE THAT TRACING IS NOT ALLOWED!
Tracing constitutes cheating. Use of a Grid is accepted.

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**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 02:16 AM

I look forward to seeing everyone's work!

Please do not simply take the reference and only post your work to your Sketchbook Threads. You are welcome to post your work both here AND to your Personal Sketchbook threads.

The purpose of the Workshop is to be able to see others' work from the same reference, and to encourage and help critique one another in a constructive way.

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 02:33 AM

Check out examples of work done in previous OFDWs here:

Links to all OFDW SPOTLIGHT Threads
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost...29&postcount=1

**Idiot Apathy** · December 5th, 2006, 02:57 AM

Hellloooooo rebecca - I think it's great that you've got these going over here now too.

Count me in, I'll find some time between work, finals and the workshop somewhere...

**Pawlack** · December 5th, 2006, 03:35 AM

Hi

I'll find some time as well.

**Zaknafain** · December 5th, 2006, 04:20 AM

was about time to do some masterstudies anyway...

**Noë** · December 5th, 2006, 04:46 AM

I'll be trying number 009
And I'd love to try 020 too, but that's just too much for me now, maybe later.. Wow those colours are amazing

You chose some very nice masterpieces dear rebecca

love
Marleen

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 08:52 AM

Hey guys, great to see some participants! Can't wait to see what you guys produce.

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 10:00 AM

I realize that CA folks may not be very familiar with the Open Figure Drawing Workshops.

Links to all former, completed OFDWs can be found here:

Open Figure Drawing Workshops
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost...53&postcount=3

I've collected the best finished work from previous OFDWs and posted it here:
Links to all OFDW SPOTLIGHT Threads
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost...29&postcount=1

I hope seeing the kind of work that has been done previously encourages people to participate!

**Diego** · December 5th, 2006, 11:10 AM

i'll try to do it. I'm very excited to participate in this.
Thanks rebeccak, i'll try to post tomorrow.

**Noë** · December 5th, 2006, 11:36 AM

I started on mine, but I think I'm doing it over. The proportions seem weird, like the legs are too short. Also the chest is a bit too diagonal I think

love
Marleen

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 11:40 AM

Hi Marleen,

Great to see your work!

Please feel free to rework your pieces as you feel is necessary - a great way is to take tracing paper and to redraw the areas you feel need adjustment - bear in mind that the point of a drawing is far less to create a perfect drawing than it is to practice, and as such, tracing over and refining a piece is part of a process of learning to draw accurately that takes a long time. I hope you'll resketch and continue to refine the areas you feel are weakest. Looking forward to more posts.

Also, a really great book / method you might want to check out is that of Anthony Ryder:

http://www.tonyryder.com/a-book.htm

This is a great book which I have - it teaches you to mark out the figure in terms of angles first and evaluating the negative space as you go. I really recommend it! But the number one thing of course is practice.

EDIT: Diego, I look forward to your participation!

December 5th, 2006, 12:37 PM

I’m in i participated in the last workshop and only managed to do a pitiful 6 of the 50 studies. So I will definitely finish this one. (famous last words)

**Uziel** · December 5th, 2006, 01:26 PM

Hey rebecca nice to see you here too...
thinking of doing a couple or so...
people tell me to practice anatomy more often so this is a good excuse...

Biondina
It was difficult keeping her look young enough...even now she still looks older...

Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Page change got in the way + some negative forms didn't come out very well.
Better work out the whole instead of working my way to the next page...

cheers

**DannySketch** · December 5th, 2006, 02:09 PM

hmmm fantastic and just what i needed, i shall give 2 of the paintings my humble attempt.

thanks for doing this Rebeccak

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 03:52 PM

Uziel, good to see your post both here and CGS.

Looking forward to your progress - I'm hoping to start mine soon.

**Onir** · December 5th, 2006, 09:07 PM

ooo didn't realize another workshop had started up; once I'm through all my finals and stuff I'll definitely jump on this! thanks for the heads up

**Twon Smith** · December 5th, 2006, 09:28 PM

Here is my first attempt guys. I guess it would be classified as gestural. I hope to work on another one soon.

**Rebeccak** · December 5th, 2006, 09:36 PM

Hi Twon,

Good to see you posting.

What I might recommend is trying this in pencil. Take your time - slow down, judge proportions, and think about the lines as you lay them down. Try thinking of this as drawing first, and painting second. Also I recommend killing the white background immediately by laying down a neutral bkgrd - gray, tan, etc. - as all values are relative, and you will find that white makes everything look too dark in comparison.

You may find the shading tutorials linked here useful:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=403198

Check out the work that was done for the shading workshop here:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=349444

Really focus on values - that's the key to tying everything together in a painting or drawing.

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

**Rebeccak** · December 6th, 2006, 09:57 AM

Hi Uziel,

Please feel free to create a new post with your updates, since I might miss your work if you edit a previous post.

Great to see you doing more studies - please post more!

December 6th, 2006, 12:08 PM

Some nice stuff so far. I started mine at work i used a grid to keep my copy going to far astray unfortunately i used a biro for the grid so i don't know if i should just use what i have and paint over it or do a trace of my picture and do a full pencil tonal study before painting it. But i think a full tonal pic is a bit of a overkill if I am going to paint it on the P.C. The pic below is'nt correct but more of a guide and i will hopefully fix whats off in the finaly piece.

**Niels23** · December 6th, 2006, 07:05 PM

Great work everyone! Here`s my attempt: Biondina
Thank you, Rebecca, for this challenge

**Twon Smith** · December 6th, 2006, 08:36 PM

Thx for the suggestions Rebecca. I started with a dark brown background on this one and changed my approach a little. The colors went in a bad direction for me like 2/3 of the way through but I had no idea how to get things back on track.

**the_allejo05** · December 6th, 2006, 10:02 PM

Rebbeca nice thread..although is my personal opinion that you should be posting drawings of masters instead of paintings.. for before painting one needs to learn line.. A drawing also will help more because you are being taught what to use as lines and how to.. paintings are much much harder to copy, if not it would be just a superficial copy ,although everything helps

**Rebeccak** · December 6th, 2006, 10:30 PM

Twon,

Good to see your work here - I hope you don't mind, I made a few demos which I hope are helpful.

One thing that can be enormously useful when digitally painting is zooming way out on both your reference image and your own image. This helps you to see the major areas of light and dark and the major shapes and forms. The way to paint is from large to small, and from dark to light.

Here's a screenshot to illustrate what I mean. When zoomed out this far, I can easily see my mistakes in comparison to the original and can easily correct them at a distance without worrying too much about the details. You want to be sure to get the biggest areas right first before detailing your image any further. I find that I work zoomed out for the majority of the time when I've first started an image, and alternately zoom out / in frequently for the duration of the rest of the painting.

Also, there are some key principles which I hope these images help to demonstrate:

When first learning digital painting, it can be tremendously useful to work in grayscale. You can put both your image and reference in grayscale mode. I recommend creating 4 swatches: white, light gray, mid gray, and black. Using your brush, hit the alt key and your brush will temporarily turn into the eyedropper tool, and you can select any color or value from your canvas / swatches by hovering over the canvas while holding down the alt key. Release the alt key, and your brush will return to the brush tool.

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Hope this helps!

**Rebeccak** · December 6th, 2006, 10:40 PM

Ulver, that is a beautiful piece! Do you plan to paint as well? I'd love to see more of your work here.

Mitze, that's a great start!

the_allejo05, that's a good point, but people are free to both draw and paint for these Workshops, depending on their level.

Please bear in mind that I'm not 'teaching' this Workshop, I'm here to learn as much or more than everyone else. Everyone is free to offer advice, tutorials, step by steps, and feedback - whatever you feel is useful and whatever you have to contribute here is very much encouraged!

I've been working on the Ingres / blue dress piece, here is where I've gotten so far - everything is just roughed in, and has lots of refining stages to go:

**Uziel** · December 7th, 2006, 05:13 AM

Slowly she's getting the right age but still some adjustments needed...

Cheers

**AztcFireFlower** · December 7th, 2006, 08:59 PM

Hey Rebbeca, been waiting for the next MC workshop. I am definately in. Just need to print out and set up my work (basically, sitting on bed)area.
Will try one drawing, one oil, one digital master copy. Let's see how far I git.
Uziel Nice start. That's one of my chosen masterworks as well. I think age has to do with a minimal
rendering of planes on her face. The plane transitions and most edges are super soft. If you look at the black and white pic, you don't see plane changes on her far cheek at all. Most of the transitions are with color temperature. In any case, I hope mine will have as good a start as yours.