hitchhiking the world of drawing (progress thread)

[endregan]

the latest figure drawing shows a lot of improvement I really like it. those dinosaurs. your concept of the dinosaur with the rider shows a lot of action in the pose and is really good for no reference I like it!

[antihero]

# 44 - knees, heads and some imagination

@golgari: you're right with that "mistakes" about the girl and the iguanodon stuff. You're truly helpfull man... much more interesting than those boring microsoft word-assistants... Thanks again for all those replies that brought me further.
Hmmm... i don't think the Loomis-way (read another tutorial, that "teaches" the same basic shape to start with) is too bad for me... well maybe i'm wrong... For now it is enough for me to have a basic idea of the head shape in a 3-dimensional way. I'm gonna work on the anatomical view later on. Step by step... well that's just what i think now, might be i realize that anatomy is truly better than starting simplified.

@endregan: thanks!

art!


more heads (no ref)


and even _more_ headz (no ref)


sketching of a figure (out of head) and some heads again...


Made this one yesterday evening. (Poste and environment is inspired by Frazetta, i bought a book recently) Unfinished i know. Maybe 'll try to paint it because i somehow like it.


Need more patience when doing these... :/

c&c welcome

antihero

[golgari]

don't get me wrong, i didn't want to get you off from that loomis-approach to drawing heads. if it works for you, that's great - most of the artists around here are with you on this, i guess. i just noticed that i, personally had some problems with the heads i tried to draw that way - don't ask me why exactly. but you're doing fine with it, i'd say. what i personally think is the hardest pose is the one where you see the head from below, where you see the downside of the chin. you also did only one of these...that one doesn't look bad, though!
maybe try some more of these. maybe also consider doing more heads with necks - since they are usually always connected, i think it's pretty important to get them harmonic.
that frazetta-inspired-pic is very nice, good job. his pelvis looks a bit strange and he could maybe use a nose, but that's only some small flaws...
i like your legs. maybe try doing some more studies of the surroundings, since the knee alone won't bring you that far if you don't know how it's connected to the legs. plus, i think maybe it's easier to see how the shapes have to "flow" when you see the whole unit (the leg) instead of just that part (the knee).

[endregan]

great anti,. the frazetta inspird does look really good I would definitly paint it . What book is it you bought I might want to look into buying one frazetta is great!!

keep up the studies

[Jeff Gran]

ya, man that frazetta pic looks pretty good, but I think the main figure's torso is too long, making the leg look wierd.

about the heads, what really helped me lately to understand them is bridgman's method of breaking the head down into planes and blocky forms. If you have his book maybe do some studys of that. or if you don't, just try drawing a cube shape in perspective and fitting the head in to that, it will help you visualize it in 3d, seeing all sides of the head.

[antihero]

@golgari: you're right with that difficult head-view from below. I will do some more.
I will do some "whole-leg" studies, but i think the knee is a very important part of the leg because of the muscles ending, starting and floating over it, which makes it pretty complicated. The "whole-legs" are next on my masterplan...

@endregan: The Frazetta-Book i bought is "Testament", but the pic that inspired me to the one above is not included in it. Yeah whatever, i think you can't actually buy a "wrong" Frazetta Book... I made a painting Version of the Frazetta-one, but cannot upload right now... You've got to wait...

@Jeff: thanks for the advice, i'll try.

Important Cannot post stuff for probably the next 4 days

This time, it is not because i was/am lazy (drew a lot last days) or because my webspace is down or whatever. It is, because of my nation, that need me as a man to stand tall in the line of....
blabla. Yeah. I'm going to the military Exhibiton tomorow and it simply sucks. That's what i call awfull (this word is going to be the running joke of this thread... ). Well. I made some more Headpages and as i said, a painted Frazetta one only waits to be uploaded (though not finished yet).
Well, i'll be back after this army-bulls#%!t.

antihero

[antihero]

#45 - heads & frazetta-inspired thing

finally, some hours before leaving heres some of the recent stuff:











whoho, in the army now... wo-oo-wo-oh in the army now...

antihero

[Jeff Gran]

The page with the guy carrying another is great. I love the big and little creatures next to each other.

good work on the heads. a couple of things to think about: the line for the top of the forehead, the eye line, and the line across the base of the chin should always be parallel(in perspective). also, try looking for a line connecting the point of the cheek bone to the outer edge of the chin, to define the cheeks. also be careful about your head shape, a lot of them look pretty tall and skinny.

Just trying to nudge you along, you're doing great as it is.

[golgari]

yeah, those too shaman-ogre-like guys are just great. i love their poses! most of your heads look quite good, too. i especially like the one on the lower second page, where you constructed him out of planes. that one looks really sweet.
jeff has a point though with your heads having a tendency of being a bit slim. also maybe they're partly not deep enough.
think of the fact that usually the head is nearly as deep as long in it's deepest point.
anyway, you'll sort it out. just keep going

[endregan]

great stuff anti i like your orc heads and head studies are good too. the guy with the other guy on his back is awesome ! your fraz inspired piece looks like its coming along too!

[antihero]

# 46 - back is what i am!

Hello guys!

The army got rid of me, so here i am. Had not much time for drawing last days. There was military, filming for a marriage i'm invited to, working, etc.
Well, that does not intrest you much. I know...

@Jeff: thanks for the advices, you're right!
@golgari: thanks for commenting
@ endregan: thanks!

Well, because my heads seemes a bit uninspired and out of any frame i worked on that again. I tried to draw the heads form in a three-dimensional way. Worked this out after a Tutorial by Ron Lemen (thanks ).















Finally heres a pose which i think looks pretty good (for now ).



more to come but possibly in more irregular intervals, however, i'm tryin to post as often as possible/necessarly. But i think posting should not take away too much time for drawin, if you know what i mean.

antihero

[golgari]

whouuh, a nice bunch of heads!
but i think it pays off that you're doing so many. they look pretty good. you also seem to grasp pretty well how to connect it to the neck and not only how to construct these free-floating heads you see everywhere. pretty good.
i'm not so crazy about the pose, since i think most of your other poses look better, but i think there's not really anything wrong with it...hmm...except maybe his left arm? i don't know, can't put my finger on it, but it somehow looks strange to me...

[endregan]

hehe great stuff. the axel sort of spokes really does look like it helps out and your body poses are coming along nice too.

good stuff!

[Jeff Gran]

great head studies, I can definitely see you understanding the shape more now. The pose looks good to me and very dynamic, like he's captured in motion. Great job. Keep drawing every day man.

[antihero]

#47 - poses & first ink attempts

Here is recent stuff.
thanks for replyin guys!











first attempts with ink means: bought a brush (not really a brush... well the just thing you use with ink, to say it short) yesterday and i'm now ramblin around with that one. as i said. not much time for posting...

antihero

[antihero]

# 48 - poses (ink & pencil)







cannot post tomorow.

antihero

[golgari]

hey, you're advancing well.
i really like the plasticity you're creating on those skeletons' chests. and the last pencil drawing there, with the free-floating guy who has this sacral feeling to him really rocks, bigtime! nice job on his robe, too. looks a little like you got inspired by michelangelo or someone like that

[antihero]

# 49 - poses, thunderdome and some weird ink

@golgari: thanks man, i'm glad to hear you like the robe-guy! I liked him pretty much, but as allways, only few days after actually drawing a picture you can't see what you liked about it... :/

However, heres yesterday and today stuff:



feel a bit ashamed to post those two sp's... they're really not great, even though it's ink... Well, besides everything else, they're basicly lacking patience. so does she:



I definitely need to do again studies & lifedrawing...

Some poses & misc stuff







Then i suddenly started to sketch for that thunderdome thing...


this one was first.


then this one... The one in the right upper edge led me to the big one.


First picture i saw from nivbed was some "dormant footprint" or something like that. Confusing and fascinating like... phew... don't know how to compare, look at the picture, you'll understand.
Anyways, this one was a bit inspired by this picture, but it very sketchy and loose. but if i'm going join the thunderdome challenge i'll probably stick with this guy in a more abstract way... rambling... you'll see.


well, wont post tomorow, great festival in switzerland => reconstruction tour, so i'll have to leave early and come home late...

antihero

PS. by the way, my title is "Hero"! Funny

[antihero]

# 50 . bridgman, sketches and stuff

@mlessard: yeah, you're right about the head, but it is a sketch and i just made it to get an idea the picture... You can see some more pictures about this guy in todays batch...

some of the recent stuff, made some digitals too but they're on the other computer.


the above guy is imagination and the below-environment is what i see when drawing during lunch...










during a meeting, (yeah, neck too weak)


the upper part of the fat guy looks pretty good, but the legs are messed.

got bridgman today, first two studiepages...




antihero

[endregan]

looking good keep it up

[golgari]

those bridgman studies are fascinating. i can see what you're copying, but you're kind of adding your own touch to it. very nice. also, i think your line quality is improving. the lines on the page before the last page are really amazing!

[Jeff Gran]

good stuff lately. the bridgman studies look very good.

[antihero]

#51 - bridgman, sp, stuff and still going...

thank you guys for commenting!

heres a small collection of the last weeks work. I've been drawing a lot but i seems like nothing really succeeds... :/ Anyways keeping at it... i should take a life drawing class but i neither have money nor possibility...

some bridgman stuff:














some sketches:





some... lifedrawing is said too much... : (unfinished)



selfportraits

i haven't done any selfportrait for a while now and it seems like that fact is about to bite back... Should do them more often in the future.




i like this one. I tried a different pose (or facial expression). Don't hit me because of the mouth... i tried to draw it about 87439023 times but i just looked quite stupid all the time so i decided to just put in sort of a orkish (or whatever) mouth...

and finally i started with the "drawing on the right side of the brain book". Here are the 2 images (orkish selfportrait is #3) which i made before instruction.


hand


figures out of imagination.

bye for now.

(by the way, even if nobody is interested in it: i heard "brown eyed girl" live last saturday... talked about that song some posts ago... )

antihero

[endregan]

awesome man your bridgman is coming along nicely

[poopinmymouth]

looking good man, i recognize the bridgemans from their respective pages, always a good sign!

[golgari]

yeah, the bridgman studies are as good as they use to be when you're doing them, but the real hit of this dump is that orcish selfportrait. i love that one, the expression is so alive and convincing that i don't even really come to notice your minor flaws on the face there. you should do some more like these. what exactly was the problem with the teeth? maybe post things you failed in, too, since it's only this way that others from this board might be able to help you out with that...

[antihero]

# 52 - IT'S STILL ALIVE!

hi guys,
bringing back an oldie from the second page of this forum.
Thanks for both comments, poopinmymouth and golgari!

@golgari: yeah, posting what i failed with would be a good idea. I think it is the problem that i had before... somehow the form of the mouth does not work when i draw it... i don't know what iexactly is the problem it just... does not fit in. You'll know what i mean when you check the mouths of my selfportraits. They never were too good. I'm gonna do some mouth studies in time.

Anyways. It was a hard time since i last posted and i got a lot of things done. I cut a short movie (about 6 minutes) for a marriage party, was on holiday for a week and finally decided to give drawing another chance. I didn't draw for about 2 weeks because felt really f***ed up. I was like "this won't get me anywhere", etc. Don't know if you understand, anyways i stopped whining and gave it another chance, as said above. Also, i signed up for a grafic-school in switzerland. It's really nothing too big, sort of a basic course, about colors, drawing, painting, etc.
As i said, not too big but a beginning. However, i've got to pass the tests before i can start with the school. I'm going to write a bit more about those tests in a later post, because i allready "wasted" lot of time for scanning the pictures. Here we go:


made this one a short while before getting frustrated. Imagination.

Oh well.. Unfinished and bad. Last one before i had my little... crisis.


Not too good. Ink and messed up. I made it for a letter i wanted to send to a snowboarding magazine. Light source is completely messed and the rest is... special as well.


Some more Bridgman studies











Imagination















to be...

[antihero]

...continued

# 52.5

And Bridgman again


During my holidays i read "Silmarillion" from JRR Tolkien. I think it's great. Especially the scene where Fingolfin fights Morgoth seems so "alive" though he uses very feew words and... well, i got inspired and tried some morgoth sketches.







(Well this one isn't really morgoth but sort of a daemon)

And some Head-Bridgman to finish










Well that's it. I hope and want to update a bit more regular in future. (really)

antihero

PS: anyone has an idea for a new nickname? I'm gettin fed up to be "antihero"... I know this is a stupid thing to ask but... well why not...? And... NO golgari, "woman" is not a good idea.

[endregan]

your imaginative drawings after doing all these studies has helped you greatly. your coming along great anti!

new name? well we cant give you a name thats for you to decide

[antihero]

# 53 - dark face

@endregan: thanks. Just thought maybe you've got a good idea or sometin crossing your mind... was more a bad joke than a good idea.

Anyways, that's me trying to paint digitally. And i finally found some brushes that did what i wanted them to do.



antihero