Fishspawn's Journey

[Fishspawn]

Gestures, 5 hour pose, 30 min speedy.

[Fishspawn]

1.5 hour speedy from photo ref. It may not look like much but i learned a lot about brushes.

[algenpfleger]

damn it dude, you stuff has improved dramatically sinec i dropped by some days ago, those life drawings are getting really tight, and your sense for color has quadruplicated

oi, did you check out the mentoring section? there's a subforum called environmentoring. i learned a ton from that. keep it up man ill be checking this thread from time to time

[Lee W]

whooo .. lookie at all this progress the faces and figures are so much dramatically and dynamically better, looks like life figure drawing agrees with you. The environments are getting there too. Keep up the studying and practice

[Fishspawn]

algenpfleger - Thanks, i'll be sure to check out the mentoring section

lee - Thanks man, will do

Here's a 1-2 hour speedy, kind of lost track of time. From photo ref.

[Fishspawn]

Another one and a half hour study from photo ref.

[Fishspawn]

Bleh, super tired. 1 hour speedy from photo ref.

[Nam]

Liking the last two. Keep it up mate.

[Fishspawn]

Nam - thanks!

Forced myself to do one from my head today. Struggled a lot, but i think i like the end result. 3 hours.

[jdeegz]

this env from your head is damn good for only doin glike 5 of em reffed..
I'd say ou set it up perfectly to have a really nice attraction in the middle.
even if you just rendered that little city scape or what ever it is, a bit more so your eye s have somthing to engage, you hit the nail on the head, but since it is rendered just asmuch as everything else it lacks the action. good work mate. you'll kick it in the ass next time ! :-D

[Nam]

Looking good on that last one, one thing that might help is some more light/punch around the buildings, maybe more light playing upon the rocks in the foreground. Keep it up.

[Fishspawn]

jdeegz - thanks, yeah i see what you mean.

nam - Thanks. I had some light in the foreground but it looked dumb so i silhouetted it >.> Something i gotta work on.

Here's a 1 hr speedy from my head. Tried to take into account the crits i got on the last one.

[Fishspawn]

3 Hour portrait from life and a 2hr speedy from my head. Really trying to break my cycle of always making stuff from my head gloomy like it's dusk or dawn.

[keith_v]

Your landscape pieces look really good. I'd like to see them if you took more time on them. As they are, a lot of them are so loose, areas of them look like rough templates. But I think they have a lot of potential to be very detailed, powerful pieces.

[pixelflux]

It's not entirely impressive that you are 'speedpainting' over photo's and other peoples work... You're only lying to yourself dude.

[jdeegz]

excuse me pixel?
you need to clairify sir.
you can't go around saying things like that, it is very rude.

[pixelflux]

I don't care if I am being rude, if you take a second look at his castle speedpaint you'll notice both images contain the same distortion from the image being saved as a low quality jpg file. You can also see the buildings that he tried to hide via changing layer opacity in his version. I'm only saying he's lying to himself, and not to mention us heh.

[algenpfleger]

well i'm afraid i have to disagree with some things said in here. first of all, i know how overpaints look and i didn't see any in here.
also, whatever you do, do NOT spend more time on those speedies than you already do. the essence of those is to quickly create atmosphere by intuitively making the right color choices. a bad sketch stays a bad sketch, and if you don't get it right in the first, say, thirty minutes, spending another two hours and getting worked up over details will do more harm than good. so instead of making them 3 hours long, you might want to do 6 half-an-hour ones instead.

err, i don't mean anything bad by saying this of course but what you might want to focus on is getting the basics down, and everything will be much easier.

so, first thing you need to do is refresh all you knowledge about those fundamentals, look here: http://conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=140
scroll down and read all those "archived class 1" threads, and do the assignments, it's gold, really, and with this knowledge you will notice that in no time you'll be able to do those speedies twice as good, in half the time.

just keep going man, don't give up even if it's hard, okay?

[Fishspawn]

keith_v - Thanks! right now i'm working on composition and color, as well as methods to develop texture quickly, but as soon as i start to get the basics i'll be doing some more refined pieces as well!

pixelfluxa - sorry, i think you're confused. I sometimes use photos as color or texture layers at a very low opacity, it's a trick that fedezz (an awesome painter) taught me earlier on in my sb. The castle that you cite in your second post was done looking at the image, and then i used the actual image as a texture layer on top of it afterwards. It didn't really do much, as the colors are still wayy off and the texture stinks XD. Oh, and theyre saved as low quality jpgs because i want my page to be able to load - i usually post a ton of images per page. Sorry if my technique confused you, but there are a lot of people who work like that on CA so i didn't think i needed to explain my process.

jdeegz - thanks for defending my honor

algenpfleger - thanks, you're right. the reason i started doing these was to learn comp and color and now i'm getting fussy with detail. Gonna have to take less time and experiment more! I'll be sure to take a look through those threads asap!

Whew, that's the most replies I've had in a while! Here's a 5 hour sculpture from today. Same model as my final project last semester, if you want to compare. Taking algen's advice and I did 3 thirty minute speedpaints. Just messing around with color and comp.

[Fishspawn]

Another 30 min speedpaint from my head~ Actually took about 45 because i made some new brushes.

[thesadpencil]

hey thanks for dropping by sb. you've got some nice stuff here. like the color face studies. and the enviros. all those life drawings are coming along nicely as well, keep it up.

[algenpfleger]

that's what i'm talking about man, you see the main action happens in the first 30 minutes. now keep doing those daily and read those threads and you're gonna see a lot of progress.

[Fishspawn]

thesadpencil - thanks!

algenpfleger - yep, read the first one of those threads, it was pretty cool. thanks for the continued support!

Another 30 min speedy from my head.

[Fishspawn]

Another half hour speedy from the brain.

[algenpfleger]

good stuff man! you know what i'd like to see you doing? some basic perspective exercises, like cubes in 1, 2, 3-point perspective. that helps tons.

[MrBobMarley]

Sup man. I like those color sampling practices. I ought to try that out sometime. I suck at color. Good progress, nice to see you branching out into env. and such . I'm not that daring lol

[Fishspawn]

algenpfleger - thanks! i'll be sure to do some more linear perspective excercises soon.

MrBobMarley - Thanks I think the color sampling excercises helped break my misconceptions about color a little, i might have to do some more. I'm always into trying new things, I don't want to get stuck in a style. Thanks for dropping by!

Here's another 30 min speedy from my head. Once again trying to get good daytime colors without horrible lack of contrast. Made a new brush for grass that i think is better than my old one.

Edit: couldn't resist

[Fishspawn]

Here's another 30 min speedpaint from my head.

[algenpfleger]

ha, your aerial perspective is getting much better

[jdeegz]

i dig this last one, thought the front plane of the image is flat, maybe some trees or bushes closer to the observer that are lightly touched by the light from the back. looks dope though!