Olga MGS, blade fighter

**defcombeta** · May 18th, 2006, 02:36 PM

have not been around here in a while so might as well post my most recent wip

as it stands my version of olga from MGS,

comments , thoughts etc welcome

j mac

**Samuel Gray** · May 18th, 2006, 02:53 PM

right arm proportions are off. build perspective is off i believe. as in the roof top area is big everywhere, it never really shrinks.

lookin good though i like the coloring.

**dogfood** · May 18th, 2006, 02:54 PM

I like a lot of what's going on, but if the proportions are correct, that sword is 11 feet long.

**Revenant** · May 18th, 2006, 04:29 PM

That is nice. I am no good at drawing, but i can see you are. Would you like to help do concepts for a game I am helping to make? Its a Strategic FPS game, all online. We need character, weapon, base structure and environment concepts. http://projectalaris.org

**defcombeta** · May 18th, 2006, 05:46 PM

the building is a section of a curved/ circular wall so its correct for what i had in mind, the hand i think i see what you are getting at, ill have a look see to see what can be done its not that big a change think.

j mac

**defcombeta** · May 18th, 2006, 06:43 PM

just a quick sketch of the arm section done on the pencil layer for the shape, its better, much better, why i didnt notice, hmmm

now to get about fixing the damage my stupidty caused

thank you for the solid honest and up front crits, priceless and gold dust

j mac

**m o я p h o** · May 18th, 2006, 06:55 PM

i liked! good work
congrats

**defcombeta** · May 19th, 2006, 12:29 AM

thanks m o я p h o for the kind words i dont think i deserve them to be honest

anway here is where i ened up for the night on this one

thanks again to everyone for there input , i hope this version works, not to bad

j mac

**Snuggles** · May 19th, 2006, 03:39 AM

Lookin' pretty good. Commenting on the design, I guess I think that, for one, it deviates a little too far from the original 'feel' of Olga. I always got the feeling that she was a very cold, no-shit character who also had this sort of feeling of aggresive, almost warped femininity. Sort of a twisted character who gave the impression that she was a child ripped into this wartime, machine-like regime. More specifically, the outfit seems to complex and says nothing about the character in that direction, and the expression and blade bits deny her origins even more. I'd actually have to say it's pretty meaningful for Olga to just have a normal looking combat knife with a hidden bullet. The sword is incredibly masculine (for one, it's a big honkin' sword, for two, swords are pretty much always at least the slightest bit phallic,) and that seems far beyond her character.

I suppose a redesign and recharacterization would be fine, but it seems like instead of an...'alternate universe' Olga, we've just got Olga looking like the default army chick.

Anyway, treating this character as an original, I'd have to say it's on the right track... This sort of short haircut doesn't seem to mesh well with such a complex outfit. The black and white undershirt doesn't feel like it belongs at all, to be frank. It also kind of creates this uncomfortable feeling in the color scheme of the character. You've got these drabs and darks everywhere that really seem...very army-like, and then this patch of white that doesn't match with any other part of the outfit. I know the striped shirt is a momento of the original design, but it doesn't seem well implemented. I suppose some simplified fixes would be to push the personality of the character via a better rendered expression, slightly...more unique hair? Less of the standard baggy-super-strapped army gear look, and an outfit that more accentuates her personality and femininity. Possibly using that black and white thing a bit better to make it more of an accent and less of a distraction.

It's a nicely rendered picture and pretty cool character, all in all, the design just hardly seems to stand out.

Oh, and...a layer of armor, a shirt, and a thick army jacket, and you can still see her nipples? It must be sub-zero in there!

**defcombeta** · May 19th, 2006, 10:04 AM

i agree i made changes but the unifrom etc its from her ninja period on big shell, its the unifrom she runs about in while not acting the part of the ,well ," ninja" the shirt is there in the scene with the president.i agree she was perhaps the only interesting non bo hoo , look at poor old me female character from the series. the sword is the long nano ninja blada, the one raiden ends up with after she dies. i agree with you the sprirt is not there but then again im still trying to figure the whole move from traditional paints to full digital since well its more cost effective way of making a living. thanks for the input if i have time i will look at it again

j mac