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    wild west

    Hi all
    this is my first post to this forum, just a couple of sketches for a graphic novel I'm trying to get off the ground. any crit most welcome, thanks.

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    Come on people! Any feedback would be lovely!

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    the anatomy of your top figure needs work. also, right now its coming across as very androgynous. Either its a rather flat chested woman or a very thin man. The color scheme is intriguing but it seems lopsided. You have a lot of empty space there... the color doesnt travel with the eye very well. if that makes any sense.

    The coloring and form of the character carry over much better in the second pic.

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    hey hope your joking about no one replying yet, you havent had this up very long. I would work on your anatomy, the figure on the top is rigid and his proportions are not accurate, his head is too big for his body, his hand looks off too, hands are real tough, just try to take some good reference if your having trouble drawing them from your head. I think the bottom figure is more sucessful. but the right arm doesnt feel like its coming from the figure we are looking at, it appears to just come right out of the bottom from another figure. with the smoke from the gun i wouldnt ink it, i would just have the paint abscent there and have the paper show through or use white. my favorite anatomy book is george bridgeman's complete guide to drawing, it really helped out my anatomy, it might be worth checking out

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    I would tone down the scribble lines, they seem to detract from the character and make the overall piece too busy...

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    but i love doing scribbly lines! it makes me feel like i'm being all edgy!

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    he didnt say get rid of them. he said tone them down. there is a fine line between loose and messy.

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    About the anatomy... it has been said.
    You can build a wider range of thiner lines and thicker lines, add lose and found edges on the thiner lines and make them support your figure, it will work even better that way.
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    must confess you have me on the anatomy- drawing straight out of your head is just asking for trouble...
    however, there is no way the scribbles are going anywhere- thats the part i enjoy most, and the fine line between loose and messy!? whoever told you that lied baby!

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    heres another piccie- no ref used (again) and the type isn't intended to be legible, I just liked it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plissken
    must confess you have me on the anatomy- drawing straight out of your head is just asking for trouble...
    however, there is no way the scribbles are going anywhere- thats the part i enjoy most, and the fine line between loose and messy!? whoever told you that lied baby!
    Well, I must say that if this is your first post, I would reconsider comments like the above. You asked for critiques and the comments above are borderline disrespectful. That being said....

    Your first character has issues with balance and lighting as well as anatomy. His stance is totally off balance unless he is leaning against a wall, which is not indicated. His hand is in an unnatural position being held straight and flat as it is. The lighting is coming from the left side on the top of his body and the right side on his legs.

    In the second image, either that guys head is slightly too small or he has some freaky big hands. Not sure which. I think it may be the head too small.

    In the third image, there is some weird foreshorting thing going on with the gunman's right leg. His foot is pointing outward, but it almost appears that the thigh is point toward the viewer. If that is the case, his balance again would be off and he'd fall backward. I do like the colors.

    Also, they are more subdued in two and three, but the squiggles are a little distracting in the first image.
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    I agree that the scribble look can be very dynamic and give a great deal of action to an otherwise static image, but generally only when they're done properly. Here, it looks far more like these lines were laid down in the hope that one of them would be correct. There's a pretty good adage around here that goes, "you can only break the rules with consistant success when you know the rules".

    These pieces really seem like you're hunting for style instead of skill. You almost proudly declare that no reference was used then show figures stiff poses and poor anatomy. I don't understand.

    I certainly don't mean to be harsh or insulting, but these images and your response to valid critiques indicate you seem more interested in praise than honest opinions.

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    dogfood said it better than I. but my point still remains.

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    to all the above people who have taken the time out to help me: I have meant no dissrespect in any of my posts- i think we may have got our wires crossed. I'm sorry if I have upset anyone, that was not my intention. I think dogfood has me totally figured out. I play around with a lot of styles, and in rushing to do so i leave out the foundations (anatomy, light sourcing etc). I should know better really. and the scribbles- in all honesty- self indulgent. I'll get back to the drawing board and try to make you guys proud!

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    Well, you've already made me proud.

    That was one of the more mature responses I've read. Bravo. I'm definately looking forward to your progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfood
    Well, you've already made me proud.

    That was one of the more mature responses I've read. Bravo. I'm definately looking forward to your progress.
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    on the last one, the gun he's holding doesnt have a trigger 0.0

    **sorry now that i look at it again, it DOES, but its in the wrong spot ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by plissken
    Hi all
    this is my first post to this forum, just a couple of sketches for a graphic novel I'm trying to get off the ground. any crit most welcome, thanks.

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    The anatomy of the top picture is a little bit off... frankly, the arms and hands look like they belong to someone a decade younger than the man portrayed.
    Read up on the anatomy of the human hand in relation with the arm, and make the arm a tad longer, and you'll have a darn good picture there.

    I have no problems with the second piece. Good job.

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