the triad

[mallock]

hi ...this is a character concept . envisioned it just floating out in space like the monoliths in the stanley kubrick space films and having this cool voice where all three beings spoke at once. i apologize in advance if it displays to big. again just a character concept thanks...crits please[IMG][/IMG]

[madster]

This is moved from CC to SWIPs, because it is not completed enough for an in-depth critique.

It's too static as it is, with too much white space. It doesn't connote space, it doesn't connote a monolith of stone, it doesn't connote singing, all it looks like is some guy's face morphing into a chick with a buncha colored doo-dads around her head. It also doesn't connote the definition of the work "triad," which usually implied three of something...

You're going to have to put more effort into this "character concept" to make it visually believeable, and unless you can provide front, sides, and 3/4 views, you should plan on a background of some sort for this "concept" to help place it in perspecive for size and distance.


~M

[JERI]

It looks finished enough to me. So was it moved here because it lacks background or because it lacks front, side and 3/4 views? It's pretty confusing.

Mallock, I think the first thing you gotta do is make that middle guy more visible. Probably have him in a drastically different color or something. It will be a shame if a nice work like this doesn't fit the topic at all.

[madster]

It looks finished enough to me. So was it moved here because it lacks background or because it lacks front, side and 3/4 views? It's pretty confusing.

As a character concept, it lacks other views. As a serious work for the Critique center, it lacks a background, and any development past the guy's chin and the top of the chicks hips, with a little of her crotch armor showing...not complete enough.

What, Jeri, you believe the light blue fringe along the bottom is the glow from the jets in her ass as this thing goes singing thru space?

~M

[mallock]

OK...madster first off the monolith referance was just because its an object floating in space destroying things. and yes there are three beings in this picture.please dont tell me my work is not finished because it lacks background. i've done concept work and seen professional concept work and alot of the pieces don't have backgrounds.take your nose out of your art text books and try to remeber what creativity is all about and maybe someday you will know what real art is...it's not about getting every line or shadow perfect. it's about expressing yourself as an individual.i have not been able to afford a computer until now and i am trying to get some advice about conceptual art.thanks anyway...

[mallock]

thank you jeri for the advice...i will see if i can bring that central face out more. maybe brighten eye with different color or put a glow on it? what do you think?

[JERI]

As a character concept, it lacks other views. As a serious work for the Critique center, it lacks a background, and any development past the guy's chin and the top of the chicks hips, with a little of her crotch armor showing...not complete enough.

What, Jeri, you believe the light blue fringe along the bottom is the glow from the jets in her ass as this thing goes singing thru space?

~M

I was lead to think as long as you have your lines, forms and details sorted out you can post it in the CC. Mikecorriero did only say "more finalised" afteall.

Besides, we have these in the CC and finished forums don't we?

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52491
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52482

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52016
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52691
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51703

Anyway, so any concept (which doesn't involve in-depth character study/development) must require background before it can be posted in CC?

[coco]

I think it's pretty good, just needs some more definition of the middle character. Maybe expand on the orange eye, give the cheeks some sort of orange glow, who knows.

Guess Madster thinks we should all be professionals before we even bother posting anywhere. Specially not in a forum specifically dedicated to getting helpful advice.

Hey, what a sec, where's Madster's art again?

[beyond_the_forest]

"which usually implied three of something..."

well you can expect him to not give a very good critique when hes missing obvious details...

though i couldn't see the face inbetween right off the bat, i did after a couple seconds of looking over the details...but not all your viewers are going to have "trained eyes" and will only take in the image as a whole. perhaps if you made the mouth larger and had it fade on either side (so it doesn't hit you right on the head, but you can see it)

edit: actually scratch that, the mouth is fine how it is, maybe if you added more of a colour variation.

it still looks to be like those are two separate characters and it's just a split scene, try to maybe imply that the woman is closer to the large face, since she doesn't have legs and isn't pushing away from him, it would make more sense that she'd be pressed against him, especially since she seems desperately confined.

BUt (concerning the middle face) i understand sometimes one wants something to be subtle and not visible to the eye at first, but for concept art it should be more obvious.

i kinda like that i didn't notice it at first.

[mallock]

thanks for the tips guys. i will try to bring that face out more.most people i show it to don't see it at first or think it's the big faces ear or something.i will post touch ups soon. thanks for the PROFESSIONAL CRITIQUES....

[simfonie]

I think this is absolutely gorgeous. And I think it would stand better without a background. But I do have a gripe: I can BARELY tell there's a face in the middle. I'd really love to see that face become more prominent, which I think would solidify the monolith idea. Keep up the FANTASTIC work!