crit hard please

**digital** · June 22nd, 2012, 03:34 PM

okay so i started this illustration of sweeny todd there are still alot of unresolved issues with it but and im hoping to get some real feedback before i continue on ..
i'm open to paint overs as well, looking forward to hearing from you.
thanks for your time and input.

**Risaki-chan** · June 22nd, 2012, 04:15 PM

Sorry but i really can't criticize i think this is great !
Is is Sweeney Todd? I like your grotesque style

**shiNIN** · June 22nd, 2012, 04:23 PM

I like it

But his gesture is too boring and stiff, it clashes with the much more expressive and better face (or not, I'm no good with criticizing such stuff, I just felt that way when I looked at him...). The hair needs some work, the moon almost touches his face and it somehow troubles me.

**Alice Herring** · June 22nd, 2012, 05:38 PM

I think you need to clearly separate the values used in the fg, mg, and bg. Right now values in the bg also exist in your character, so his silhouette is starting to get lost. (I thought he'd had an amputated arm!)

**TinyBird** · June 22nd, 2012, 05:49 PM

And I have to admit I thought he was Abe Lincoln before reading the description (you know, what with the new Abe vampire movie coming and all), as I find some of the main facial features very similar (large forehead, pronounced cheekbones, small eyes which are in shadow, the shape of the beard and parting of the hair).
Also the fact that that definitely doesn't look like England took me away from thinking he might be Sweeney Todd.

**digital** · June 23rd, 2012, 12:45 AM

thanks everyone for the feedback i felt like the first pass was me playing it safe and not really pushing myself tried to keep the advice in mind but heres where i'm at now

**Blankstate** · June 23rd, 2012, 01:06 AM

Well that just went all sorts of wrong. Is this meant to be a joke?

**digital** · June 23rd, 2012, 04:01 AM

gotta keep pushing

**Kiera** · June 23rd, 2012, 04:53 AM

Dunno, the first one looked fine the way it was, the pose was static but you could've worked around that by adding more dynamic shapes to the legs and pouring a bit more love in those clunky feet. A slight fisheye-lens effect could've helped, too.
There were some awkward elements in the first one though - the tangent between moon and head, the strange perspective on the background elements.
Are these supposed to be houses.. or walls?

The new posing Todd just doesn't work.
Pose-wise and composition wise. The gangsta pose clashes with the historical mid-aged man look of the character (Abe Lincoln, breakdancing?), the stiff vertical composition clashes with the strong movements.

**digital** · June 23rd, 2012, 02:48 PM

@Kiera yea i agree. i like the feeling of the first one better. i just didn't want to stick with it, for some reason. i guess i wanted to see if i could pull of a second one. no bueno. lol but i did learn a few things along the way. i will go back to it later but i think a break is needed to study and stuff. and yes i was planning on resloving the background with some shops and street lights, etc.