Tim Dose Recent Paintings

**dose** · October 14th, 2009, 07:04 AM

Hi all

I thought it would be useful to create a separate thread for completed paintings now that I'm finishing them on a regular basis. Here is a collection of recent paintings- would love to hear comments or criticism. More to come every couple weeks or so.

Thanks for looking

Tim

**Jonas Heirwegh** · October 14th, 2009, 07:35 AM

Nice!
Love the black woman.

**Krymzon40** · October 14th, 2009, 09:44 PM

They're very nice, however, I think you should use a different color for the background. I feel like the gray is sucking the life out of them.

**rembart** · October 14th, 2009, 11:47 PM

very good style, like the gray-scale colors. grays allow the determination of color

**Oruhito** · October 15th, 2009, 08:58 AM

Pretty nice work! I also really like the portrait of the black woman, and also your rendering skills. But in regards to colour.....

There are other colours than white!!!!!!!

Try finding the chroma within the figure. You've figured out the values easily, but it's time to locate the hue and intensify the chroma. White will chalken up your figures.

**lena murray** · October 15th, 2009, 11:14 AM

hey, glad to see this thread, good work, keep posting. I personally like that the paintings are on the light side, something I always struggle with myself. Sam says hello. I mentioned you were doing a lot of painting these days, he is happy you can do it now.

**dose** · October 15th, 2009, 06:31 PM

Jonas: Thanks!

Krymzon40: I'm glad you said that. These are done in a classroom with gray walls. Though I like it in some cases it's bothered me that the background is always that same color. However I've forgotten about it in the chase of getting the paintings done and it seems obvious when I put them all up together like this. I'll have to think of something to do about that.

Rembart: I like the gray in some cases, but in others I might have liked something different. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment!

Oruhito: For the first time in my life I feel like I'm actually in control of hue and chroma with these paintings. Can you give me some more specific idea of what you're talking about?

Lena: Hi! Thanks for stopping in. I'll keep posting paintings here as I finish them. I'm planning on giving Sam a call tonight.

**Oruhito** · October 19th, 2009, 08:50 PM

"For the first time in my life I feel like I'm actually in control of hue and chroma with these paintings. Can you give me some specific idea of what you're talking about?"

-That's the thing - you're very reserved with your colour. I'm not there so I can't judge with exactitude, but your figures (Despite being well drawn) lack chroma and look a little bloodless. Usually a result of using waaay too much white. It's hard to find intense chroma in fleshtones when under natural lighting, but trust me, it's there: you just have to search. It's a subtle game that's hard to tackle. Also are you using black? Otherwise, well drawn figures.

**Art_Addict** · October 21st, 2009, 05:14 AM

Nice paintings Tim!
I like the first and the woman on the blue chair the best. The chair is nicely done btw.

The subdued colors don't bother me as much. I can see what you're saying about getting a better control over hue and chroma. The thing that jumps out the most imho are the values actually, contrary to some other people in here.
A lot of times it seems you have put the same value on different areas of the figure, therefore implying it occupies the same place in space. As you probably already know, light rays weaken as they travel away from it's point of origin. So those parts on the figure that are further away from the light can not be as bright as the ones closer to it, even if those particular places have the same planar orientation to it.
Your gradations also don't always show clearly where the light is coming from in relation to your shadow shapes.
You are at the ASL right? I can strongly recommend taking classes with Michael Grimaldi.

Good luck & and I look forward to your next batch.
Tom

**dose** · October 21st, 2009, 05:12 PM

Oruhito- ah, OK. i hear you. I've been enjoying making them really subdued, but they could probably stand to get a little chroma back in some cases. I was playing with the saturations in photoshop and found I liked some better with the saturation bumped up. As for black and white- I'm using a controlled palette (Reilly based) so each pigment is premixed with white in even steps. Chroma is controlled by adding a neutral of the same value. The neutral is comprised of black and white plus umber, so in that sense I'm using black and white.

Art Addict- Oh, good call! The effect is subtle with this lighting from some angles but definitely there. I've seen it and thought, "that's too much for me to think about right now", but it would definitely help. I'll have to re-add that to the pot of things to think about. Thanks for the suggestion. Also, just got on the waiting list for Grimaldi's class. Hopefully the turnover is not as glacial as in some other classes.

**armando** · October 21st, 2009, 06:20 PM

Overdose! Fourth one down is my favorite, I like the simple design and subdued colors. Like how simply you rendered the face, gesture of the hand. I'm feeling those trapezoids throughout the chair.
Nice plane work in the face on the 3rd one down.
Good brushwork in all of them. That last one has a pretty smart composition.

**SweetPea** · October 21st, 2009, 09:38 PM

very nice, how long do these usually take you? what brand of oil do u use, and do u do ochre underpaintings? sry for all the questions im trying to learn as much about oil as possible

**dose** · October 21st, 2009, 11:12 PM

Armando: Thanks for stopping in, and thanks for your comments. I owe your sketchbook a visit- haven't been in a while. You'd been doing some great stuff last time I was there.

SweetPea: These are anywhere from 12-30 hours (4-10 days, 3 hours per day). The couple and the last one were 12 hours, the girl in the blue chair was about 20, and the rest were about 30. As for paint, I use a couple different brands. Mainly Winsor & Newton and Gamblin for the colors, and Old Holland for the whites. No underpainting on these, though I will probably be doing a few with an underpainting soon as I've been practicing them in a new class and am interested to go back to working on top of one. Will probably use umber instead of ochre though. Thanks for looking!

**ReneeLarson** · October 26th, 2009, 08:29 PM

I like these even more and more each time I re-examine them. I like to look at your edges--I'm not up to dealing with edges yet, but you are making me think about them.

Thanks for putting up these paintings. I am very greedy and I want more.

This is my first post.

**dose** · October 26th, 2009, 11:12 PM

Renee: Glad to see you've decided to break your silence! Thanks for stopping in. I've been struggling a bit with how to control edges more. I feel like I've just been wrestling them into submission. I did some reading last week that gave me some ideas that I'm hoping to try out on the next painting. See you in class!

**Dizon** · October 28th, 2009, 04:43 AM

Nice painting and drawing!

**Auren** · October 28th, 2009, 11:03 AM

Beautiful. Makes me want to try oil painting again.

**Zarahn Southon** · October 30th, 2009, 05:22 AM

I like the fact that you're adding studio props etc....nice work

ACE* · November 5th, 2009, 11:42 AM

GREAT WORK MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! really inspiring...

**hitnrun** · November 5th, 2009, 11:52 AM

Personally, I think your paintings are fine. Better than I can do at the moment. I don't read them as chalky. My personal favorite is the dude with the collar - I admire it when people paint metal in such a way that I have to first think of it as just colors - not as the object. The spikes are like that for me - I read them right off the bat as a shinier metal spike that is polished. My mind then has to break it down.

**dose** · February 23rd, 2010, 08:04 PM

Painting from a recent workshop, and some paintings and drawings from the end of last year that I just got around to photographing.

Playing around with different techniques on each of these.

**zerdron** · February 24th, 2010, 12:04 AM

It really is decent. I really like the anatomy.

**cliffert** · February 24th, 2010, 01:43 AM

Pretty nice work! I like the portrait of the black woman. I think you should use a light color for the her right arm jewelley.

**Art_Addict** · February 24th, 2010, 03:17 AM

Nice! a lot of progress Tim. I really like the drawing of Raven. It feels a lot more lit. Are you in Michael Grimaldi's class now? All of your figures have a much more organic feel, much better sense of form then before I think. I'm curious to see what you will come up with next.

Cheers,
Tom

**arenhaus** · February 26th, 2010, 04:37 AM

Looks quite good. A bit grayish, but that may be a matter of preference.

I'd suggest paying attention to the brushwork. At this stage you've got the tone and color - and anatomy - quite well. Now you can think of the brushwork, making every dab form-contributing. You're still "daubing" a little, and it shows as lack of vigor, especially in directional textures like drapery.

Mind you, that's a very high-level skill, and I am sure you're more than ready for it.

**Zarahn Southon** · March 13th, 2010, 09:24 PM

Really strong drawing... wow!

**esra_art** · March 13th, 2010, 10:36 PM

i loved your work very much coz it seemed original and this inspiring to me, i hope that this will be contagion to me, especially that i'm starting painting again

**Timothy Duong** · March 16th, 2010, 05:44 PM

Great work bro! I really like the your muted palette. Some parts get chalky though but that might be personal preference too. I too though do the same thing and trying to break out of it. Look forward to seeing more.