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[Bonobobeaux]

hey guys, here's my morning sketches. I tried doing a hard brush shadow like you suggested, but I left it to the end and kinda half assed it, I'll post some more later

[Care]

u smashed it!

[Bonobobeaux]

ya I definitely made a conscious effort to show the flattened butt, thats probably why it looks so cut off. Here's mine from today... the girl in the bunny suit on the right was an experiment , it started as a silhouette that I painted on top of instead of doing the line sketch. Turned out okay, but it was difficult to do the colouring on the shirt with hard brush.

[Care]

hey dude those are looking good.

just a personal opinion feel free to disregard, but i think you should not use gaussian blur, i get the feeling that either using the soft brush or the blur is a way of trying to make it look better, as a way of masking the mistakes in value. Even with a hard brush if the values are in the right place it will look excellent. (like the one on the right) still looking good tho!

[Care]

hi, so sorry havent been posting here much have been doing loads of stuff, i was wondering if u could help me with some shadows. im finding the bouncing of walls thing hard. how do you figure out the diagonal line going up the wall?

hopefully the pictures will show.

[Care]

cheers sean, looking at the pictures there are specific things that im trying to discover.

1st pic (the cake thing): The top of the shadow is it a straight line or curved? im not sure how to translate it?

2nd pic (the post): The top of the cast shadow of the post. why is it slanted diagonally and not straight?

3rd pic (the open box): I think the shadow underneath the box is wrong but not sure why. Is there a shadow inside the box on the left. im not sure.

Cheers!

[Care]

thanks that helps. now the problem is i cant for whatever reason figure out the box on the wall one.... ill try again later. Got a colour hand study coming up in the near distant future. until then got some practice shapes.


Can u tell which one is the hand done from the mind?

[Care]

tried some shading today

[Care]

thanks wondering should study black and white or color references. ( i was using my hands for those.)

[Care]

i like it a challenge!

[Care]

sorry dude im unsure if u meant to draw this as practice or just to label the light and value?

[Care]

dont worry i got it.

[JuliusObviousMagnus]

Hm...any chance of getting in on this?

New around here, still not sure how all things work

[Care]

right just had a look at the pic and its a completely diff color on this cpu! shit. im copying it off my laptop and its a lot more blue. anyways ill post a wip, since its about values i mite be able to use the colour changer to get it right.

2-3 hrs on this so far (there was another one but i scrapped it - because of the colours lol. dammit!)

[JuliusObviousMagnus]

Thanks for the compliment.
The greek guy in a toga is a study based on a sculpture I found on the web, and the egyptian girl is a nude study that got out of hand and ended up as a standalone piece. The horse is also based on a photo but the rider is not.
All of the others were done without using any references at all.

Yes, I'm interested in color and as I said in the post I am sort of starting from scratch. One of the things I want to do is move away a bit from the standard things I'm drawing, to sort of expand the themes more. I always kind of fall back into the theme and setting I'm familiar with, and that's not really good for going forward.

Since I lack any kind of formal training whatsoever, and all my work is based on intuitive smudging about until something good pops out - I really wouldn't know what would be the best place to start "training" so to speak hah. I am open for anything that you think would be a good place to start

[Care]

working on both

[Egg0]

Hi, I've readed some pages and I don't know if I can get in the group, would be awesome, I'm just a boy trying to get better at anatomy first and, just drawing itself.
And I don't really know how this works but I'm opened to every kind of challenge

[Egg0]

@Sean McClain

Amazing man! Didn't expect that quick reply, and yeah of course I'll watching the pages before and working on life's drawings

Really thanks mate

[Care]

6 hours in

[Egg0]

Ok, here it is a plastic bottle (not transparent or something like that, just matte orange) and now I look at it it feels like flat and maybe the bottle is not perfect, but I want some guide to make incoming life drawings better

[Egg0]

Egg0O.K. good work getting that done! I am impressed you got the edges working! yeah the values do seem off...try to contemplate them more....value relations can be really tricky actually. It takes a lot of work to guess them well.
I made an exercise for that on post 98 page 4 if you would just do the studies like a normal study Just don't use color picker and forget the seven steps all together. 10 studies each of value key...this helps you understand values better. so 30 min to an hour per sound good?

Yeah I'll watch that right now and make that studies or maybe tomorrow idk, beign part of a group or just having a kind of mentor get me really motivated to work and just keep working, so thanks for that

[Care]

hi sean thanks for the compliments! just a few questions,

when u say zoomed out do you mean on the ref pic or the piece? Im always zoomed out on the reference, and have been for most of the piece (apart from the eye hehe and the beard really, actually the nose as well)

Can you explain a little bit about how you use layers, i know the basics, but i was told somewhere to do it all on one layer.

The orc skin came out great!

Egg0: I think youve forgotten about the light source! if its coming diagonally in it means where the shadow is will be darker than the light side. check that ball thing its really useful.

[Egg0]

hi sean thanks for the compliments! just a few questions,

when u say zoomed out do you mean on the ref pic or the piece? Im always zoomed out on the reference, and have been for most of the piece (apart from the eye hehe and the beard really, actually the nose as well)

Can you explain a little bit about how you use layers, i know the basics, but i was told somewhere to do it all on one layer.

The orc skin came out great!

Egg0: I think youve forgotten about the light source! if its coming diagonally in it means where the shadow is will be darker than the light side. check that ball thing its really useful.

Sorry I don't like to, like, intrude (idk if that's the word), but maybe you can watch Ctrlpaint.com tutorials about painting in layers, I think that actually is a pretty good way, and if you watched it before, to see again how it is cause it's always helpful.

(sorry about my english)


And Sean I didn't get the exercise well, I have to take an image and guess with the value key? or how?

[FizzlingPhantoms]

Hiya, I really want to join this, but I'm new to the forum and dont understand fully how this works.
can you please explain further?

Thanks

[Egg0]

Egg0Don't bother with the 7 step exercise tutorial I posted just do them as studies and put a boarder around each study and type what value key it is at the bottom. So Screen cap studies in a nutshell.

Sorry but I didn't get the last part :/ English is not my first lenguage and I have some issues with the slang I guess, basically I didn't get the part of in a nutshell

Otherwise I push a little forward values on the bottle image

[Egg0]

Oh thanks man! Really aprecciate the translation, anyways I can understand basic english well, I mean I understood everything you put there, just nutshell here means nothing more than shell of the nut, I think that the expresion "in nutshell" in english is kind of keep it simple. So I'll work on that!

And, if you wanna and you have some kind of messenger or something more fluid to talk just tell me

[Care]

hi ok so i think it was a FZ tutorial where he said try painting in one layer until you are good nuff, its definetly been a good learning experience, but ive been meaning to goto ctrl paint and look at the layers thing looks good!

this study has really helped me to look at diff values its much appreciated!

So how much should i stay zoomed out (25%?)

anyways i know this isnt related but i thought i might post this here for some critique as i think its awesome.

[Care]

building. front view. future shit.

[Care]

thanks thats a big help! have looked at these before but now i see what u mean.

also that last guy was an absolute visionary.

[FizzlingPhantoms]

Fizzlingphantoms oh hi! just noticed that post up there lol. sorry bout that. ummm why don't you go to the sketchbook section of the forum and start a sketchbook...just post your sketches and paintings in there etc for all to see. Oh and it would be helpful if you went to your profile options and created a link to your sketchbook in your signature. ....So do that and then post something your up to and I can get a flavor for what your up too and I can give you some constructive feedback. Sound good?
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Thanks I will have one set up some time this week hopefully, just gotta get my scanner running ;D

I'll post again when it's up and running