ChoW #208 :: Marie Antoinette

[Xaya]

Long long time no see! So here´s my progress, still lot to do, adding story elements, adding full figure, expression etc.

[Xaya]

So i guess i have working setting, gesture (which relates to her end) and composition...

[AlotAbitAlittle]

Updated Sketch :: Not sure what else will be going on the table....

Edit 1:: Worked through a little more perspective issues. (Brashen - I took another look and I think it was the curtains and head /tank---THANK YOU!) Put some base levels down...time to rock this (Yay!)

Edit 2:: Some color started...lots more to do...

[keith eager]

Xaya: Looking really nice, I dig it.

Here's more Marie. I took her back to her time a little bit. Still glitzy, but a glitzy ball, not disco.

Good luck finishing everybody!

Cheers,
Keith

[gpalmer]

Tiiicking along. Repainted eyes, began rendering accursed couch, fixed bodice shape. Traded out the really tall hair for a 1770s style that doesn't make her look quite so Bride of Frankenstein. Exciting new placeholder background.

[C.Abarca]

Edit: added color progression...kinda funky but continuously fixing xD

I dunno if im able to still but here's some progress shots i started...im a bit new to this but seemed like alot of fun...i know this isn't showing entirely 3/4 i believe...but it's because of my screencap. (in actuality it's longer)
Hope you guys dig, lovely concepts all up in this joint...just loving being in this environment

[JanJager]

Brashen
Great. Perhaps make her eyes a bigger to give her a more feminine look.
samothrace
Nice take. Why not add some rococo details.
Feil Magnus
Nice light and costume perhaps add some hard shadows. Maybe you can work a bit on the cone shape of the dress. Now it looks a bit like a flat surface. Perhaps this is on purpose.
gpalmer
Nice perhaps working in some shadows.
Shogo
Great Very strong picture. Perhaps having some differences in tone and value between the hands nearest Marie Antoinette the hands nearest the viewer.
rodriguez
Great costume. Maybe her arms seem a bit powerful for a female character. I like the window in the background but perhaps the big contrasts in the background takes over a bit.
xLouisax
Lovely picture. I like that the focus is on her face and hair.
C.Abarca
Coming along fine.
keith eager
Great
Xaya
Beautiful Can hardly take my eyes from hers.
AlotAbitAlittle
Good A bit morbid. Looking forward to see it finished
AvisNocturna
Very nice. Great expression, colours and rendering.
vArisun
Great line work
zepheenia
Very cute Marie Antoinette
heavy liquid
Good start. Maybe she looks like she´s sits a bit on the back part of the horse.
mairuku
Beautiful. I would focus to work on the shadows on the sheet under her.
Jager
Very nice. Looking forward to see it finished.
Sorry for not critting al

[JanJager]

Some updates

[Nephilie]

Xaya: It's cool to see how you develop your idea. I love her face and the hint to Marie's end
AlotAbitAlittle: this is going to be macabre, but I like it how you do an entire scene
keith eager: I don't know how you go on with colours, because the contrast can be a problem. But I like Marie's self-confident expression
gpalmer: Interesting that you do her so thoughtful. I like the colours of the dress and maybe you can do some more shadows, especially on the skin
C.Abarca: I'm looking forward to see this piece finished. I love the hairstyle
JanJager. I love the expressions of the characters! Cool thing

Here's my actual progress.

[Brashen]

IceMoon: Thanks!! Damn I still need to show more of her ahhhh!!

JanJager: Thanks. I tried making her eyes bigger but she sort of lost the expression I was going for.


CRITS

@LA-Fairy: Be careful of her pose. Is her body in 3/4 position or in profile? Because her arms are in profile yet you can still see the left breast?. Also try adding more value to you colours. Understand where your light-source is and play with the shadows and highlights.

@Shogo: Nice composition all in all but mind you show a bit more of her. Try elongating the canvas, it should give of a nice view.

@prepsage: Watch out there mate, would her body really be able to bend like that? Nice colours all in all but try to add a secondary light so that she doesn't appear so flat.

@AlotAbitAlittle: Watch out for your perspective. Let's see more!!

@mairuku: Goof colour choice. You may have to get reference for the pose tho, she's feeling quite stiff. Is she lying on the bed or is she propped up on her elbow, it's hard to read your intentions.

@heavy liquid: Nice idea looking forward to seeing more.

@zepheenia: Like the style, but also be wary of your perspective.

@Arisun: NIce work so far. But I repeat what I said to the other guys, watch out with your perspective. Also she seems to be to heavily detailed. Don't let the rest of the image suffer in comparison.

@AvisNocturna: I really like where this one is heading. But also you've got perspective problems. These are accentuating the fact that she looks like she is one with the divan. It's as if they are all on one plane. Her body needs to be bets more. You can also use more tonal value to help you their.

@curiouslucious: Need to see more before judging.

@xLouisax: Too dark, you need more light as we cant make out anything in the background.

@rodriguez: You should probably redevelop the idea. Start with the basic forms and then add the clothes on later. There are too many problems with the image that include proportions, perspective, lighting and composition.

@gpalmer: The pose is nice, but her anatomy could use a bit more work. Again she looks flat against the couch. Watch out for your colours and their gradients. You have a direct light source so a lot of the image is going to be in a near black shadow. Look at Caravaggio's work to understand chiaroscuro.

@ashton: You've already gotten help with the your perspective. Tho you may want to switch to an easier pose or get some reference.

@keith eager: Need to see more of where this is heading. I like the colour choice but be careful not to get too carried away with the purple's saturation.

[AlotAbitAlittle]

Brashen Yeah, the perspective has been the hardest for this one. I mapped out most things. I think the head is a little off. Where are you seeing the perspective issues? I could use a little help.

[xLouisax]

Omg I've found painting over grayscale reaaally challenging but what can I say, tis a learning experience! I've still got a few things to do to mine, I'm guna tweak and paint over a few things and add more definate lighting.

Alotabitalittle: Wow, I thought ur last composition wasn't too bad but your new composition is much better! Can't wait to see what you do with it!

Xaya: I love her dress I can't wait to see it finished!

[B u r l]

[Xaya]

Almost....

[CrookedHorn]

need to work out the dress and take a look at some reference but its coming along.

XAYA: wow, i have enjoyed watching you piece progress

[jenny7332]

Woo an update.
B u r l: I like your ideam it seems many people have painted her skinny so a nice, interesting change. I know it's a WIP but you might want to consider placing in a single light source or a general direction of light so your shading is more uniform.

xLouisax: You have some really nice detail there! The background colour puts me off slightly, it doesn't really mesh with the blue you have

[Nephilie]

xLouisax: I like the small wrinkles of the dress on her arm and waist. I think you can do some deeper shadows and more highlights to give your picture more contrast

B u r l: really cool idea. I ask myself sometimes if Antoinette wasn't fat because she had eaten to much sweets, this seems to be the answer! I love the exaggerations you used

CrookedHorn: funny idea, even if it's going to be very uncomfortable for Marie. I'm looking forward to see the next step

jenny7332 : nice combination with the swan! Maybe you can show more clear where the light comes from, I'm not sure at moment

[AlotAbitAlittle]

Nephilie: I like the texture you are bringing in (fox & feathers). I tend to look at the window first since it is on a straight view. Perhaps tilting the wall/window could also help to bring the focus to the character. (Also, making it less bright will help too).

JanJager: Looking great! Love the pink coming through.

C.Abarac: Great stroke developing there.

CrookenHorn: I look forward to seeing the colors you bring in. Awesome idea.

Xaya: I like the tense emotion coming from yours.

[Xaya]

Damn... i wanna finish this thing!!!

Changed a lot, new face and expression, didn´t liked the last one.
Catched some reference to get a better skintone... paler!

The "thinking expression" shows more story. I darkened the left side to gain more drama and to make the blossom relief at the wall some kind of dangerous looking.

Ok 1 or 2 hours more work then i give up...

[Carnifex]

not participating this week,but gotta say xaya,i'm exited to see the finish on this. amazing!

[gpalmer]

Still going...
One of these days I'll remember to work early enough not to be right up against deadline.
But depth is happening. Working from most boring to least boring, so the skin and hair are next. Will go back and fix the sofa if time allows.

It looks like I also need to jigger my color settings. These jpgs are coming out significantly more washed-out than the main document.

[Brashen]

A couple of paintovers for the peeps and a little update on my stuff.

@AlotAbitAlittle: You seem to have too many 'vanishing points chosen' as I've shown each object you've drawn has it's own perspective. Choose one and stick to it. Hope this has helped.

[mairuku]

uhh i somehow totally changed my colours and fudged this whole thing up.
thanks for the critique thus far guys...it's helped a lot.

but WOww i feel like i haven't done a serious piece in forever and i'm so frustrated.

all this is making me realize is that i have an enormous amount to study ):
i hate something about this so much! Or maybe i'm staring at it too long? maybe i'm tired from working two jobs

BLEH

and ...finished i guess ): next time i'll use ref for the pose...she does look stiff ):

[rodriguez]

Thanks JanJager and Brashen, think i'll just stick with my idea and see how it goes, not really got enough time to redevelop it even if i wanted to, so hopefully it'll work itself out

[xLouisax]

Omg, i've found using colour over greyscale SO hard! And I can't work on this anymore as I've run out of time and have to go to work! But chow is a learning experience right, so at least I've learnt a bit about this method ^_^'

I'm planning on repainting this so I can retrace my steps and hopefully make a better final piece.

Thanks everyone for all the advice! xx

[CrookedHorn]

cutting this one close.......

[AlotAbitAlittle]

This is as far as I got...

[blackrobin]

too late to made it to the burning thread,
go go ChoW

[Frozensceptre]

I was too sick to get to my computer as much as I wanted and I wasn't able to finish in time. here is as far as a got on my piece.