Team CHOW II-Team Jacakalope

**threeeyesworm** · August 19th, 2009, 05:09 AM

Hey Seth,

Right now, the elf looks really generic. I think this is what Jon meant when he said it is too clean and looks like a uniform. Please try adding some different designs into it. Add accessories in a way that would change his design as a whole. Try playing with the entirety of the armor. Play the armor and the clothes, skin and any accessories against one another. He needs to looks much less like an ordinary elf.

**threeeyesworm** · August 19th, 2009, 05:13 AM

Got bored of the good version I was working on. Did a bit of the evil version today. Will do the good one again tomorrow.

Headgear design for both the good and evil versions and upperbody general design of the evil version:

**2100** · August 19th, 2009, 05:17 AM

Wei: I really like the scorpion tail mask! I also like the black rope he's wearing around his neck. I think the rest is a bit too extreme though. Think more practically, everything on him should have history and purpose. Don't rely so much on symbolism to state his alignment, use his accessories to tell a story about him instead. Maybe he has some trophy collection: scalps, animal teeth, etc. He could carry a variety of knives and eccentric jewelry. He could be missing a finger! And that's why he's using a katar, because he's missing too many fingers to wield a sword. When I think about it, even the mask is a bit too showy. Why would a evil person go around announcing he's evil? The signal needs to be more subtle.

Seth:The changes look cool, let's focus on the next design though. I did a bit more thinking on the evolutionary traits: Long neck (higher vantage, like the ferret), low-pointing ears for better ground-tracking (no tall trees in a desert), deep set eyes (for seeing in the sun), thin eyes and nostrils (sand protection). The bow is also equally important as the costume and anatomy, so spend some time with that too.

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I don't know if there should be anything subtle about my jinn.. oh, except for the hidden sex symbols. J/K!

I think I've been treating this design too much like an MMO mob, my jinns are too symbol heavy and don't have a personality. So I read up on them a bit more. Apparently in Islam, Satan is the original jinn! They are free and defiant creatures characterized by hubris. Maybe the way to go is to keep them looking like this, but pose them effectively. The evil one should be charging recklessly, and the good one doesn't bother to use her shield.

**threeeyesworm** · August 19th, 2009, 03:03 PM

Wei: I really like the scorpion tail mask! I also like the black rope he's wearing around his neck. I think the rest is a bit too extreme though. Think more practically, everything on him should have history and purpose. Don't rely so much on symbolism to state his alignment, use his accessories to tell a story about him instead. Maybe he has some trophy collection: scalps, animal teeth, etc. He could carry a variety of knives and eccentric jewelry. He could be missing a finger! And that's why he's using a katar, because he's missing too many fingers to wield a sword. When I think about it, even the mask is a bit too showy. Why would a evil person go around announcing he's evil? The signal needs to be more subtle.

Jon, you know, I totally agree that an evil person probably really wouldn't go around announcing he is evil, especially since initially, I wanted this character to be an assassin (Who would want to appear as ordinary as possible). And I thought about what you said for a long time and I don't know how to show a person to be evil without him announcing himself to be evil. It isn't like I can make a comic about him. Even if I use accessories to show that he is evil, these accessories would still announce that he is evil. So I am not sure how to be more subtle. For now I will try adding accessories that would convey his history.

**eldritch48** · August 20th, 2009, 03:11 AM

Hmm...I don't think they've been "evolving" long enough in the desert to change the base physical traits very much! That said, I did go back for a complete redesign this afternoon...I think it should be a bit skinnier and taller, but I like the basic language a bit more.

**2100** · August 20th, 2009, 04:15 AM

Hi guys, sorry I missed the meeting. POST YOUR NEW DRAWINGS, thanks! :p

**2100** · August 21st, 2009, 02:21 AM

I developed the evil black gothic armor thing more, but I came up with a better idea I think.

Rather than have an all out custom armor, I want to use an ad hoc style armor- where she's just covered with various plates, chain mails, accessories, and bits and pieces that she's collected in her journeys. So the dark genie has a collection of dark things and the light genie has a collection of light things.

**eldritch48** · August 21st, 2009, 02:28 AM

That is a cool idea...I think it will totally help sell the alignment of the character.

**sillymoogle** · August 23rd, 2009, 05:10 AM

Hay dudes, I scanned the doodles in my sketch book. I am working on more. Wei and seth said I should work more on croc-boy so I will- since he looks really tribal and stuff I'll do a few drastically different versions of him and see what suits him best in an Arabian theme.

**2100** · August 24th, 2009, 02:00 AM

good jinn idea. Flying weapons... Sorry it's so sloppy, I'm super tired, I just wanted to get the gist of it.

**2100** · August 24th, 2009, 05:30 AM

Still tired, but I had to get this out of my system... Jackalope rider.

Megan is going to do a Jackalope summoner, I think.

PS: Hey, do you guys want to do this whole thing in Chibi?

**2100** · August 25th, 2009, 03:54 AM

WIP good genie

**eldritch48** · August 25th, 2009, 04:39 AM

Here's my take on the Jinn....just a pencil sketch, but maybe it'll get some ideas flowing

**2100** · August 26th, 2009, 12:47 AM

WIP on genies

Where is everyone's progress?

**2100** · August 27th, 2009, 06:53 AM

Tonight's updates...

**2100** · August 27th, 2009, 10:12 PM

Taking a break from evil jinn.. need to work on good jinn.

**2100** · August 28th, 2009, 04:19 AM

dark jinn

**threeeyesworm** · August 28th, 2009, 05:34 AM

God damn it, both of our characters use double swords.

I like the Jinn a lot but it feels a bit light. Like there's very little going on. Awesome painting techniques though. The boobs look a bit fake like implants...

**threeeyesworm** · August 28th, 2009, 06:19 AM

GAH! After I shrunk the image to save it as jpg, I used the brush to draw a few things and then I saved it. >< And I couldn't go back far enough in my history to undo the shrunking... damn it. It should be okay though... This is just the general outline of it anyways....

Evil Warrior: