"New Born" -- Girl with the Botanical gun and other ideas

[Nickillus]

Yes Hala, kind of.
What was actually knocking around in the back of my mind was those old triptychs, where three paintings were done on hinged panels, almost like a dressing table mirror. They often related saints' stories a bit like a renaissance comic book.

Not quite applicable to this obviously - two paintings, not three and digital rather than oil on wood. But something in a similar vein with the two images perhaps - unless you fancied a third 'reborn' image, with him as the central heart to it?

Again - do just ignore my senile ramblings - most do and benefit for it.

[hala]

Oh, I love those triptychs. Studied those a lot in art history. hmmm it's definitely an inspiring idea either way. I wouldn't call that senile ramblings--more like tid bits of good info and ideas.
thanks again!

[Black Spot]

It's interesting to watch this develop.

[maria riaz]

nice idea though yet i agree that the picture is not saying much widout explaination.....u can draw a scene in which the girl is planting seed in man's chest and he is transforming visually.....just a suggesion...gud luck

[hala]

Blackspot: thanks
Maria riaz: thanks I kind of don't want the picture to spell it out for the viewer--I want them to think about it and if they bring their own narration into it, i'd be happy. Thanks for the suggestion though That probably would have been a better path--I think I just got married to the idea of a gun that shoots for change, rather than death. >< bad bad habit.




Ok--Not very happy with this piece anymore. I joined the contest to show that I could commit to something--not neccesarily with the anticipation to win. So, I've learned a lot from everyone's critiques so I'll be satisfied. After I finish this though, I'm going to put this idea away and start on a new, better entry.

There are a ton of mistakes I will be fixing eventually.
Compared to my first attempt though, I think the composition is much better, though my rendering I'm not too happy with. Especially the candle/iv bags.


sooooo this is still a WIP

edit: is it just me, or did her face get worse as i go along? XD

[vardoburrito]

The vines around the M4 ties in nicely to the green surrounding him.

How about take out her saddened. Get her crossed legged on a comfy couch.
She's staring it him. Pistol with vines. But she's with a smirk and a raised eyebrow.
She could have the vine tattoo.

She shot him and she's proud. He's accepting face could tie it all together.

[My brain is so quiet. I love it. ]

[Black Spot]

His face is in pain, which mean he’s awake, but his arms are relaxed. You could tie him down. The colours are very muddy. I would tighten the composition by having the girl a lot closer and lower. But first, you should look at his anatomy.

[Nickillus]

I wouldn't give up on it yet, Hala - not after putting so much effort into this one.

If you're still not sure about the composition, sit down and do some more thumbnails. And don't allow yourself back onto a full sized version of it until you feel excited about the discoveries you make during the thumbnailing. It'll make it go faster in the end and you can feed in all the things you've made decisions about in the making of these past few versions too.

That's not to say you can't submit more than one entry . . . . . . .

[hala]

Dwardo: Lol yes, I think I like the characters a lot and outside of the contest I might play with a couple concepts like that.

Blackspot: Thanks for pointing out the muscle tension problem (didn't notice) >< I tried so many times to get his position right--I think this is one is just a matter of needing more practice. And you're right, especially with the skin tone. It's missing all the blues and greens, and etc. Thanks again

Nickillus: Haha I'm not giving up yet I think with this piece, I will call it a learning experience and leave it at that, and take on a new piece (maybe the same concept, not sure yet..) with that advice about the thumbnails. Good point about the excitement aspect too--I think with this new one I wasn't crazy about it..I really should have spent more time on thumbnailing. thanks

[hala]

i needed to stop looking at my original piece--

so here is my second idea, which i personally like a lot better and think will be more successful.


My brother can't walk, and I know what it dream it would be for him to be able to explore the world himself (he can't wheel his own wheelchair either, he has no motor skills), instead of at the mercy of his family to take him out. He wants to be independent and because of all his health probs and disabilities, he can't experience the freedom we all have.

So in this piece i'm "bringing to life" the vision of robots that can support such people, disabled ppl, wounded/amputated soldiers, and help them to find their peace and independence.




so here are the two thumbnails (again, thanks to everyone who has helped me by critting my last piece, i learned a lot about composition).

i think i will go with the first one, of robots taking their "masters" (for lack of a better word) through a walk in a hilly valley, where they rejoice in their independence.

the second one is the robots taking their masters out shopping. (not really clear, those are stores behind them. I hsould draw shopping bags on their arms. anyway.

let me know what you think

[vardoburrito]

I like it. I'll drop some dandoms when i can.

I still love the first. Shooting to heal is such an awesome idea, I've never read anything like it. Genius. You could work along side this new one. Something GMS taught me, if you get tired with one, you switch to another one in progress. You'll never get bored.

[Vaejoun]

I totally like the new idea.
Curious what way you decide to go for that picture.

[graphicgolem]

hey I like your sketches very much they have a very nice feel to them!

[donm]

nice, ill be watching this thread. I would suggest making more thumbnails to spread around your ideas before committing.

[hala]

Thanks everyone for the comments and tips

I'm definitely going to apply them.

And thanks Jagmed, I'm gonna go do some more thumbnails now



I HATE THIS PIECE hahaha I have studied very hard this past month, and made a lot of progress with my skill, and so now I feel like this piece could be so much better if I started yet again, but I don't have time.

I will post thumbs later today for the robot piece, and get back to working on this newborn stuffs, and hopefully start that one on the right foot!

[Dorkthrone]

I think the botanical gun idea is coming along very well. I'd love to see how it progresses.

[hala]

Thank you ninjacat



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So I did a couple more sketches for the walking idea.
The robot wasn't cutting it for me because it didn't really demonstrate that the person was gaining independence.

So instead I sketched a couple more ideas for that concept, and picked one that I think compositionally works, and gets the idea across (abaondoned wheel chair with some one running off into the sunrise happily )

I will work on turning this into a thumbnail, and make a few copies to mess with light and color.
and if anything else comes to mind, i will make more sketches. ;p

sorry for the crappy quality, i can't get to a scanner.