@kagemusha, thank you for your advide, thatīs what i need.
first, concerning to you question, no, i have never been to any life drawing session, iīm student at grammar school.but we have done some drawing from life in my art-lessons.now i use to draw mostly with template, for the faces weeks before i didnīt used a template, i know they look very crooked^^.
today i tried another self-portrait from life(mirror), not happy with it, but i wonīt give up.it really motivates to look again at the first page of my sketchbook!
and i did a landscape-drawing, important to me was to reach a deepness with saturation, cuase i have huge problems in all of my drawing with the deepness.
i have 2 versions, which one is better?




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, but i wonīt give up!)hands and short (45 min) landscape, used ref.




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again. Thank you mate



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