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    Sweet!
    Those studies are rocking, keep it up

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    Her left shoulder is a bit far up, like shes lifting it but other then that it looks spot on.
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    Svenska konstnärer överallt mahgad

    The masterstudy looks good so far.
    and the thing about the eyes; then you know what to study tomorrow
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    yes i cannot wait for that richard schmid study either. :] it's good you're so busy, i'm too lazy and must do moar studies like you! and you can draw eyes!!! just study them more than the other parts of the body and you'll be a pro! :]
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    Gloominati, thanks man! i´ll do my best! ;D

    Anton, tackar!

    Björn, fänx mon. ska fixa till det!

    Loathesome, THEY`RE EVERYWHERE! tack! :]

    thank you very much, Matt! let us do more studies!


    here´s another spammy update.
    laying down values in a multiply layer on top of the drawing.
    squinting, zooming out and stuff.


    now it´s time to create a normal layer on top, zoom in and work on detail, focus on edges and stuff.

    BRB!


    oh, and please hit me with critique! GO GO!

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    det där ser ju riktigt jävla najs ut! Har tyvärr inga crits, men keep on truckin'!

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    thanks for the comment....that latest one is looking really good, keep it up, make sure to stay with the values and keep them consistent.

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    Yeah me neither D: inga crits, sorry. Kan bara säga att den ser bra ut so far
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    thanks boys! update on this sucker.
    been doing some zooming in and detailing on the hands and face, as well as adjusting the values.

    crits plz?

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    Nice studies dude! Keep going strong!

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    Jamie and E, thanks guys!

    finished with this one.


    also, i have to add that Richard Schmid is the fucking man. oh my god.
    felt like i disrespected him by doing a digital study of that beatiful painting.
    but whatever, good practice!

    aaand update on this one:




    crits pls? :]

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    Oh man Oh man!

    Sista studien är så jävla ball, känns inte helt klar dock. Tror du kan tajta upp ljuskanterna en del! Låt inte för många penseldrag bara ligga.

    I övrigt skitbra. Var längesen jag så dina prylar. Mera tack!

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    Crazy value work in there man. Keep up the good work

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    Tiger! tack man! long time, no see! du har nog helt rätt, blev lite lat mot slutet!

    Diego, how have you been, dude? thanks for the visit!



    another study, from Sargent this time.

    let´s play a game! "Tell Flaskpost how much he sucks at painting in color, and why!"

    step one: tell me how bad i am at painting.
    step two: tell me why i am bad at painting.
    step three: tell me how to get better at painting.


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    I actually really liked that last one tho~~hehe. nice shapes.
    but try to pay more attention to contrast and edges maybe? contrast is a pretty tricky thing. Go over some paintings holding the ALT button in PS, esp. in the shadows, its pretty delicate.

    keep it up,~~w yo

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    Den sittande tjejen blev nice till . Eftersom det är en studie så jämför man ju automatiskt med referensen för att avgöra om det blev bra, men det är lite svårt i det här fallet eftersom du har låtit bli mycket av texturerna. Så den ser ju annorlunda ut (inte i negativ bemärkelse). Men volymer och valörer dingade du! Händerna ser skitbra ut också.

    Den sista är snice. Beröm för att motivet är skitsnyggt får du inte ;D Men skitbra studie är det iaf. Toppenvalörer. Speciellt bakgrundens förhållande till objektet. Bra och säker användning av färgskiftningar i huden.

    Måste säga nåt negativt också, man kan ju inte bara uppmärksamma det positiva. Hmm. Gör såna här balla saker själv också! Dina personliga grejer är ganska fokuserade motivmässigt (så upplever jag det iaf). Spreta mer!

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    bra grejjer händer här ;D

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    yo man! that schmid study is pretty awesome.. his paintings are cool, riiiight? : D

    anyway, in your latest piece you need more color variation, both in the shadows and highlights. there's a LOT of information going on in these areas, you just need to open your eyes..! also, i'd really pay attention to those edges turning away from the viewier, like on the ear and neck, i'd soften those edges and bump the saturation to make it more belivable and show its actually going back in space.

    btw, rätta mig om jag har fel men hängde inte du på fragbite under den gamla goda tiden? 5-6 år sedan, that is : D tycker mig minnas någon flaskpost där
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    (poor google translation hehe)
    steg ett: wow så dåligt .... ass. hahaa
    steg två: att du inte praktiken!
    steg tre: praktik * en hel del. ;]

    * Praktiken: motion: systematisk utbildning av flera
    upprepningar, "övning ger färdighet" / / begå: utöva eller
    utföra, "säker sex", "begår en slumpmässig handling av
    godhet "

    du har photoshop inrättat som min. utom jag har till
    har alla verktyg till höger eftersom jag är vänsterhänt. och
    innan det var en färg för att alltid klicka på andra verktyg på
    olycka. haha!

    gör lite färg studier kostnadsfri färger. fokus på
    varför de går bra ihop eller vad som gör en viss färg mer
    pulserande med röda runt den snarare än grön. etc, etc. få
    några bra färglära böcker och studera dem till max. Jag har
    detta Itten bok som har hjälpt mig att förstå lite färg
    teorier, även om jag har läst den flera gånger för att
    förstå Itten. han var så smart i allt färg.

    och praktik! du kommer på rätt spår. hålla ritning
    och observera vardagen och du kommer förväg bättre än du
    någonsin hoppas att om du skulle oroa dig för det vardagliga. gå med
    flödet och vara lycklig med progression! :]

    --
    step one: wow so bad....ass. hahaa
    step two: you don't practice!
    step three: practice* a lot. ;]

    *practice: exercise: systematic training by multiple repetitions; "practice makes perfect" // commit: engage in or perform; "practice safe sex"; "commit a random act of kindness"

    you have your photoshop set up like mine. except i have to have all the tools on the right because i'm left handed. and before it was a paint to always click the other tools on accident. haha!

    do little color studies of complimentary colors. focusing on why they go good together or what makes a certain color more vibrant with red around it rather than green. etc, etc. get some good color theory books and study them to the max. i have this ITTEN book which has helped me understand some color theories, although i have to read it several times to understand ITTEN. he was so smart in everything color.

    and practice! you are going on the right track. keep drawing and observing everyday and you'll advance better than you'd ever hope to if you were worrying about it everyday. go with the flow and be happy with progression! :]
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    reading through your SB was akin to what I think it would be like to be with a group of artist critiquing one's work. I am always amazed at what gems I find viewing others SB. Here I learned a lot of stuff from both the responses and your studies. Stuff I can put to use even today.

    first I had no idea PhotoShop (PS) was also such a good paint tool in the right hands.

    Comment about the latest study. I am wondering can you vary the brush strokes? I think part of studying the masters work is observing their brush work activity. In particular the transition from stroke to next stroke.

    Once you arrive at the refining part of the painting I wonder about the merging of subtle color values in both the lighted area and the shadow areas with various directional stroke activities with photoshop?

    I do not know if I am making myself clear enuf to be understood. But it seems the brush strokes would add another dimension to the shapes in the painting. Plus I agree that the values need to be pushed a bit more, and then the transition to one value to the next made more interesting and with subtle changes as the values move from one to another.

    i am not an expert, so my crit needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Plus i am not sure what PS is capable of.

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    Reading MattGamer's response made my day!

    Brukar du gå på krokin på konstskolan i Gävle? Bara undra, om man kanske har sett dig där nån gång.

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    hahah Matt man.. totally killing me right now. ;D

    Anyways.. Hey man.. I think this last one is pretty awesome, good values and planes. I'm gonna shortly tell you what I've gathered from the last couple of months of painting. First of values are ridiculously important, as I'm sure you're familiar with it doesn't always matter the colors as long as the values are straight.
    However the second most important thing is definitely placing colors against each and other. First off varm and cold. You HAVE to have something to cool down a varm painting and vice versa. A great thing to do is to start the painting as a thumb nail. Get the contrasts between varm and cool going, see if you find something that works. You don't always have to start of with lines. Then work your way bigger.

    Only use little or no black at all. Black tends to plug the painting and destroy it like a cigarette bud in a freshly opened can of beer. (or something aaahhaha) Decide whether the light is cold or warm. Is it warm use cold colors for darker areas, for instance blue on the side of green or green on the red side. If you reference a photo be extra careful with black. A camera doesn't work like the eye. Where colors get confusing, like in darker areas, it just throws in black.

    The latest painting is good, but the black is exousting, toy around with cold colors instead and see what happens. It's very varm at the moment which makes it a bit flat.

    If you haven't already - learn the color wheel! Not necessarily in all it's detail but the general opposits. A great way to rock a painting is to strike a good chord. Like some red in a sea of green. Or a burning orange against a blue wall.

    Okej! Antar att du känner till mkt av det här redan, men kanske jag hade ngt nytt att tillföra haha
    Väntar på fortsättningen!!

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    Long time no see! Loving all the progress in here! You've been really pushing forward, eh! Great work! The studies are all rocking. The latest one is really beautiful. Great to see you coming into your own, man. I'll try and make sure I come around more often. lol I'm terrible at this whole forum thing these days. Keep going!

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    This last one rocks. I love the yellow! Keep this up bro. Cheerios!
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    Karen, Anders, Nellin, Björn. tacksomfan boys!

    Dandilion, nix, var läääängesen nu faktiskt. borde skärpa mig! :]

    tja88, thanks for the crits man! and nope, wasn´t me on fragbite. sorry!

    goddamn Matt, too funny! thanks for the crits and encouragement! i will practice more often! :]

    sombertwin, thank you very much! appreciate it!

    tack tigermjölk aka staffan! goda poänger.

    thank you Zebz, glad to hear!


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    Väldigt kul att titta igenom din tråd Flaskpost! Du behärskar så många olika stilar vilket bidrar till att det aldrig är tråkigt att kika in här. :] Jag brukar sällan skriva i folks SB's men när jag gör det så MENAR jag det. Jättebra jobbat!
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    cool stuff happening here man! as far as your concept-work is concerned try to make the elements you use "work" together a bit more smoothly. for example with that forest-troll dude: It's not enough to attach some mushrooms to him to make a "good" and fresh design. Try to think a bit more "intense" about how nature would actually work on that guy. For example if you decide to put some mushrooms on him, think about how his skintexture would look like.
    And try to think about the visual interest that needs to be achieved when actually "designing" a character. Threat a character like a piece of art, make the shapes of the mushrooms interact across the whole character to make the design interesting. One way I would try to think of that (sticking to mushrooms ) "which ABSTRACT shape would look cool in which place?" and THEN I would think about how to make an awesome looking Mushroom outta that shape. Probably all that is compositional stuff till some degree but I really do think that the things which make a piece, a character or any Object REALLY interesting are these abstract shape patterns which lead our eyes!
    ALso that way of thinking will help you to actually understand how to make a design look REALLY fresh and new

    whew, what a post You're doing great man, just stick to it and work harder and harder and HARDEEER!!!

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    like that face study. so many colors in there i wouldn't use if i did it from my head. and the trolls made me laugh. great anatomy emphasis and style. i immediately thought of asian style of art when i saw it.

    moar moar moarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :]
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    Your studies are really great. I guess you're in the same position as me in that you are finding it harder to do concept stuff than observation studies. I've been trying to draw from observation and then trying to draw something similar without any reference. For example drawing a boat several times from ref at lunch and then going home and drawing a boat from immagination.

    It worked out pretty well and I did it with face studies too. Hope that tip is somewhat useful and not too obvious. Keep up the lovely updates.

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