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I know! Shading is shit!

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[gmc9987]

Hey man, it's been a while. I've been following your sketchbook since you started, and it's great to see you continually posting. keep it up, you are getting better.

One word of advice on the shading, I wouldn't use the side of the pencil lead. Use the tip, and do a series of lines (hatching) or vary the pressure to create your shading using the same part of the pencil you draw with. Using the side of the lead to shade gives your shadows a very different texture than the rest of your drawing, and also causes you to shade really fast, when you should be taking your time to get it right.

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[gmc9987]

Much better! Keep it up! You might want to think about doing a nine-tone value scale as an exercise. Make nine squares in a row, color one square in completely black, leave the last one completely white, and gradually fill them in in order from lightest to darkest. Every single art and painting class I've taken has started with this exercise, and while I hated it at the time it really does give you the control necessary to lay down the correct shade for whenever you need it.

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At gmc9987: Thanks for the help!

I'm not entirely sure on how to shade the torso and belly, so any help is welcome.
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[gmc9987]

Hey! Much improvement in the shading department since I last checked in, awesome! The proportions of the figure with the drapery look much better as well, try and apply what you did to get those proportions right to your other drawings and you'll be well on your way.

Your values have improved as well, keep it up!

[Ravendell]

Wauw, you're still grinding it, good job.

Anyway the only advice i can give is, what has been told to me. Is, to take more time on your poses. Start out with the bigger shapes before you worry about the details. If your getting frustrated, its mostly because you don't give your mind the time to absorb the information given. Also try to keep a very light touch to your pencil. These things help me alot as well.

Keep it up!

[NecroPhone]

If youre going to put the actual nude reference you used on here like in post #190, id suggest you put NSFW or something in the thread title.

Ill be honest, i didnt read your thread, i just skimmed through the images to see your improvement, and theres certainly a lot to see.

From what ive seen youve done plenty of studies on muscles/proportions/bones and all that, but are you actually implementing what you know into your art? Id say you should continue with your studies but after every session try to implement what you just studied into a drawing.

Check out the book Anatomy for Artists, draw what you see in it and afterward simplify it. Try to get an understanding of where muscles fall, how they fall, any key folds or creases that show where they are.

Also, continue those life studies, theyll help tremenduously.

I hope it all works out, and the best of luck to you!

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Work in progress.
I will respond on the comments when i have time.

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NecroPhone:

From what ive seen youve done plenty of studies on muscles/proportions/bones and all that, but are you actually implementing what you know into your art? Id say you should continue with your studies but after every session try to implement what you just studied into a drawing.

I'm not very creative.

If youre going to put the actual nude reference you used on here like in post #190, id suggest you put NSFW or something in the thread title.

Ill be honest, i didnt read your thread, i just skimmed through the images to see your improvement, and theres certainly a lot to see.

Tell how and I'll do it, and don't worry there isn't much to read.


Ravendell:

Wauw, you're still grinding it, good job.

Anyway the only advice i can give is, what has been told to me. Is, to take more time on your poses. Start out with the bigger shapes before you worry about the details. If your getting frustrated, its mostly because you don't give your mind the time to absorb the information given. Also try to keep a very light touch to your pencil. These things help me alot as well.

Keep it up!

Thanks,

I know that I need time to absorb the information, but learning by memorization and learning by doing are two completely different things, yet they complement each other.


gmc9987:

Hey! Much improvement in the shading department since I last checked in, awesome! The proportions of the figure with the drapery look much better as well, try and apply what you did to get those proportions right to your other drawings and you'll be well on your way.

Your values have improved as well, keep it up!

Thanks, I still don't understand shading. One book says one thing and another says another thing, of course, contradicting each other, that goes for any other resource I've seen.

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Ooooh, I really like how that first one is turning out! It's a bit loose to offer any specific pointers yet, but the proportions are looking pretty good!

As for that second one, a good rule of thumb to keep in mind is that most people's hands will be about as long as their face from chin to eyebrows, so those fingers are way too long. I'd shorten 'em up and bring the bottom of the hand up quite a bit.

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gmc9987, Thanks for the help, one of the problems was that both picture were cut off.

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I had to put NSFW sexual situation capitalism rocks!
Since "situation" gets truncated (in my computer). it leaves sexual capitalism rocks! which makes more sense than nudity capitalism rocks!
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[gmc9987]

Hey man, looking really good. It is very nice to see you using more long, flowing lines. The way you defined the back in this piece:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...1&d=1259871074

with a few long curves, instead of several hundred short scratches, is a vast improvement from when you started this sketchbook. You've got several nice lines there, your task now is to go in with a pen or darker pencil and pick one of them to accentuate. After giving yourself such nice options go back in and pick one of them to be your final line.

You're doing great work, keep it up!

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gmc9987, Thanks, I would replace few long lines, with many long line, in my case anyway.

Shading, my second nemesis!

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A hand and some DFTRSOTB stuff

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A badly drawn hand.

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Copied from a Alphonse Mucha drawings/paintings

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