Pile of 3-leaved Clovers

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WOW.
so long. >_>;

uh, just for information, most of the works here are old works of mine. If you want to see the more recent of my sketches, you can start from page 2...
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hi there! Nice to meet you all..

Not a fresh newbie here actually, but for one or other reasons, I just made a sketchbook now..

Well, reintroducing myself I guess ^^; I'm a freshman taking college, majoring on culinary arts. Drawing's been a hobby of mine since few years ago, albeit I didn't have much time (and much skill). With a spare time recently, I'm thinking of learning more about graphic arts too, hence coming here. I hope I could learn about graphic arts as much as possible, finding friends, and enjoy drawing a lot more..

Please don't hesitate to comment and critique upon my sketches, and don't hesitate to outright bash me if I did act badly here or anywhere around here ^^

[katinki]

why did you start a new book? however, great to see you trying out still lives! it looks like a good start for the cellphone, i think you just need to spend more time on it and render a few focal areas more tidyly. and think about edges, everybody should check out elwell's edges tutorial!

wanna see moarrrr!

[Envisor]

Great work on the cell phone still life. For the shadow, make your strokes follow the same direction as the ones that make up the table surface. Right now, it looks though the shadows are blocks of wood up against each cellphone. Good work. Keep it up!

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@katinki : hehe, because I put the last one in the wrong forum (WIP & Studies) I think that'll be places where I can put my pics, not sketches (which most of them are)

great tutorial! although I haven't been able to grasp it , I guess I'll let it move along while I'm drawing too..

@envisor : thanks! Yeah, the blockiness (is that a word?) of the shadow did disturb me, but I couldn't point out what's wrong. Now you've pointed it, thanks a lot ! ^^

anyway, another rough, rough sketch...trying for a bit of a movement here.




@EDIT : attempting to somewhat correct the cellphone pic..correcting the shadow and the texture, and fixing some errant light source, and attempting to make harder and softer edges...

[Leper]

I find the softness of your pictures along with the soft colors quite appealing in a way but I think they would be allot better if you sharpened them up though. The first and second pictures are super cute imo. ^^ Keep going.

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Thanks for coming leper!

yeah, I haven't really harpened them actually (esp. the second picture), I'm still trying to find out if I had some anatomical fault. XD
still, thanks a lot! ^^

[Envisor]

Nice pose for the female character. Try blocking in the planes of the face and body. Use a neutral color (found in the middle of the color picker menu in photohop) use it as the background. Then pick a color near the bottom of the colorpicker menu and put in the dark areas of the characters face and body, next, take a bright color found near the top of the color picker menu and fill in the light areas of the body and face. This will give you better form than what you have at the moment. If its confusing, I'll post progress shots in my sketchbook for you to see. As for the cell phone still life, "Much better dude! Much Better!" Keep at it.

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hmm, it's actually not confusing, but...which color picker menu are you referring to? the one that's in the toolbox or..the other one? (the one which showed after doubleclicking on a colour)

I guess I'll try to find out though. Thanks for the suggestion!

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an update to the last pic...

The right hand kinda bothers me..is it right anatomically? >_<;

[Envisor]

Yeah, that hand is off. I think its because you have drawn the fingers as if they are all still next to one another, when in reality, the majority would be back on the grip, and the forefinger should be larger do to foreshortening because it is closer to us than the rest of the fingers. I think I could worded this easier, sorry, I've been off on my critiques today. Try t find reference for the pose and hand, and redraw it. You'll be surprised what you can learn from doing that.

[Asatira]

I think you've got some good stuff for a start. The still life is pretty good in that you got the form and depth down. Don't worry so much about the smoothness of the painting; it'll come as you do more.

I agree with Envisor on your latest figure; it's got a good sense of movement but the weak point is the hand and the gun. Reference will help alot. Don't be afraid to do studies from life or reference, or do it with traditional media so you can get the skills down.

[Demo]

Gradiations are a good thing and ur getting emm down better so keep working on them and well get what your seeing yoiurs is the other one iv noticed that have an anime feel to it so maby shy away from it for the time being and then once you have studied more it will make every thing u do look better
very dynamic so keep comming

[FearSelf]

I'm glad you started a sketchbook!
Like those before me have said, find a refrence, it really helps.

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@Envisor : Ah, thanks! Yes, I guess it's because I didn't have any guns yet so I simulated using my bare hands....suffice to say it didn't work.Don't worry, it's understandable!

@Asatira : thanks! I think the gun itself were too small from the start (I actually planned to draw a derringer, but if I think about it....well) And I will do still drawing a lot more! ^^

@Demo : thanks too. I guess "the other one" were the second pic, no? I did wanted it to look anime-ish, though yeah, I should learn to stray from anime influences more.

@Fearself : thanks! ^^

Thanks everyone for the critique! well, to find a reference I go!
....anyone have a good site to find a reference? I always used Google Image Search and typing random phrases, and sometimes it didn't work too well esp. with my limited English.

Added : I'm going to ask it here, due to my own judgement cannot be trusted on this one..
How about the arm? The left one (the one in the back), I mean. I keep getting this "OMG it's not attached on her shoulder well" but when I look it again it looks fine. Need some help on this one..

[Envisor]

Try deviantart.com. They have great photo reference and stock photos for use.

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@envisor : ahh, DA..I rarely go through the photography section though. I guess I'll go visit it if I need to find references xD

anyway, updating :


still having problem with the back arm but I guess the gun and the hand looked better....somewhat.

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okay, new update..fixing the hand *somewhat small back then*, doing some more shading on the face
reference image on the hand can be found here


and another update for the 2nd pic tried to give as little shading as possible but still give some realism...

C&C are widely accepted

[Envisor]

Thats much better! And that reference picture is sweet. The eyes are really flat on your drawing though. Try doing some facial studies. Maybe a full page of your own eyes from a mirror, some noses, lips, and so on.

[katinki]

hey! great to see you continuing working!

some differences between your version and the reference which make yours less realistic:
i'm no weapon expert at all but i think: your head is too high and the eye needs to be exactly above the barrel - she can't aim. the hand could be even bigger - there is a *lot* of foreshortening going on! your thumb isn't attatched to the hand.
hope that helps a bit!

and i really like your soft colour schemes!

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@katinki : thanks! I don't realize that it's too small..is it enough now?

@envisor : thanks! I'll do that after this, perhaps.
and, okay, attempting to edit the hand, changing the position of the right arm, adding some BG & sketching a rifle before sleeping. here it is:


Haven't do the eyes though. Will do after waking up..

[Demo]

if your still having problems with that back arm googling some refrenc poses could help you better render it. the rifle seems a little out of place just because her arm seemes to be going up and off the page and the rifle seems to be floating their. best of luck with it

[katinki]

heading in the right direction! but the eye is still not directly above the barrel...

regarding your eyes - i'm aware that this is a deliberate stylization. but you could explore some other possible (and perhaps more interesting) stylizations by first studying the real eye's anatomical structure and simplifying from there on in different manners. just to try it out.

keep it on!

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@demo : Ah, yes, thanks for the critique! I didn;t spot it back then, but after some thought, I did.

@katinki : Thanks! Yeah, It's more of a stylization...I didn't want to go for realism at once and ended up at the uncanny valley, but I'll try! Thanks for the suggestion!

Added some detail, changing the sling *hopefully the rifle doesn't look floating anymore*, added some detail and shading to the eyes...



Gee, I did concentrate on this picture lately, eh?
Maybe tomorrow I'll do other sketch too..

[Envisor]

That hand is looking nice! The face still seems too flat though. Add some shadows to it. Oh, and maybe make the face kind of blurry, as if your concentrating on the gun.

[Demo]

hay its comming alont their make sure you crisp up that circular gun hole and add a little more contrast to some of the clothing its still in that mid range value
keep

[putrid lumberjack]

sweet sketchbook. i like the girl with the gun

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@Envisor : thanks ! I'm trying to learn how to blur the pic (without using the blur tool, of course >D) but well, hopefully I've done this well..

@Demo : thanks for noticing that, I didn't noticed at all!
@putrid lumberjack : another thanks!

anyway, another update:

[FearSelf]

The picture is progressing nicely. But uuh... what's with the green thing coming out of her head? Is that her arm? It doesn't make much sense, if I were you I would just get rid of it I think it's ok to leave the left arm out for this one, I don't think you can place it anywhere without it looking awkward. Although next time I would suggest getting a refrence so you wouldn't have to worry about body parts too much.

[Demo]

I agree with the left arm has been giving you problems so mabey just leave it out

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@Fearself : Thanks! I know, next time when doing uncertain pose like this I'll make sure to have a reference >_<;

@demo : Thanks too!

anyway, deleted the hand, smoothing some shading, deleted the leg too. ALso, changing the background into a more smooth one (line tool ftw! *runs)


also, my first (admittedly) full hand sketch