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[Taneli]

you geeks!

[Taneli]

A shoe.

[Christian223]

Welcome, its great that you have so much line cleannes and not chicken scratching as is so common to do, keep that up.

While doing the stick them, allways have in mind the correct proportions, check loomis book "figure drawing for all its worth", in there he explains what the "correct" proportions are, you can get it here www.fineart.sk

Keep it up!, i started not long ago also, im 25, so dont get discouraged, keep your motivation up!.

[Taneli]

Thanks Christian223, I'm already copying stuff from that book. Here's something from it, and additional empty space fillers. The other picture is presenting a bad drawing of a tired man with a curious hat. I call him Albert.

[Aila]

welcome! This is a good place to be I like the tidiness of your sketches. Also the anatomy studies are looking great! I love the stick-men too ^^
Keep it up!

[Anaglyph]

Hey!

I'm sixteen years old and I also have been doing something similar to what you have here. Your pictures are much cleaner than mine, though- I prescribe to what was called "chicken scratching".

You going to any schools or learning from any books?

[Christian223]

Hi again. Let me tell you what i just learned, Loomis seems to have a method to teach in wich he presents you first with proportions, then with an overall shape of the body, and then with the details and anatomy of the body, in this way he ensures that we learn things much faster and easier, one thing at a time. So he teaches you the proporstions of the limbs and principals masses of the body, then he teaches you the overall shapes of such masses, and after that he teaches you why they have such shapes and the muscle shapes that make those masses. For this reason its a good idea to learn things in that order, first the stick men and their proportions, then the figure without much detail, and after you learned all that you get into details and muscles.

So i recommend you to first learn proportions by making a couple of stick men from your own memory without copying and then comparing them with Loomis stick men, see what wrong and what is weak in yours and correct, do some more stick men and correct and memorize what you learned, repeat the process until you can do perfectly proportioned stickmen, then you can move forward to drawing those figures you did on you last post.

Keep it up!, Jesus bless you.

[Taneli]

Aila: Thanks!

Anaglyph: Just learning from books. I was scratching too previously, but somehow it magically went away! In this update I'll post something that might have had something to do with it.

Christian223: Thanks for your pointers. I've been previously drawing those proportion studies you mentioned, but I just drew the examples and moved on. Bad move, so I went back to them.

Always when I start drawing, I draw some straight lines and circles with ellipses inside them. Two pages every time, takes around 15 minutes. I think it has something to do with my clear lines but I don't really know. Maybe not. I've attached those scratchy studies from about 4 months ago so you can compare them with the ones I did today. Also tried to draw people at the park today but everyone was just walking past and not a single person stayed still. Impossible! Two pages of stick-men from my head too.

[speedysam267]

humble beginnings maybe, but you have one hell of a foothold! keep up the anatomy studies! great line quality in you studies

[Christian223]

Nice progress, its a really good thing you got better on your lines, keep that up.

But dont forget to draw the line of the chest of your figures, the proportions are 1 head from the chin to the chest line, then from the chest line 1 head to the navel, then 1 head from the navel to the crotch.

And while you are at it, dont forget about balance either, notice that in loomis, the figures that are seen by the side seem to have a stright line that goes from the back of the head, to the back of the body, to the back of the lower leg, that means that the balanced straight body has his legs a little to the back, so its not totally straitght like a column.

Keep it up!.

[Taneli]

speedysam267: I do? That is nice to hear!

Christian223: Heh, good info again, thanks. I wasn't thinking along those lines. I'll keep them in mind.

Only one drawing today I'm afraid. An apple facing downwards and an egg.

[Nuke15]

wow nice shoe

[Taneli]

Nuke15: Thank you.

Sticks from photo references. Surprisingly hard to do. I have big problems visualizing the pelvis in perspective.

[Nizza_waaarg]

hey, nice clean lines

as for getting the figure in perspective thing, you might wanna try laying out the center line, and the shoulder, pelvis and feet lines with straight lines in correct perspective (http://itchstudios.com/psg/tuts/construct.jpg <- from prom's art tut, kinda what i'm talking about) and also try working on quick gestures as well, capturing the rythm through the figure and working from there.

Don't forget to keep up the studies

all the best,
chris

[Taneli]

Nizza_waaarg: Thanks, those perspective lines will surely help!

I had a day off today and went cycling around the town searching for stuff to draw. Messed up that church tower pretty badly. At first it was going well and I was excited but somehow it ended up being almost an unreadable mess! Also a self-portrait which didn't start to look like me so I drew a stick invasion on it.

By the way, I'm not entirely sure what a gesture drawing is, could someone enlighten me on that?

[Saraiva]

Awesome lines in your studies, mate. I personally am hoorible being clean and neat with my lines.
I also started a short while ago, and I am also studying from Loomis. He's great.

Keep up the studies!

And if you'd like to see my sb, its right under in my signature.

[Taneli]

Alternative: Thanks. I agree, Loomis is great.

I was drawing my hand today. Tried to do them quickly, 4 - 8 minutes each. At least it is quick for me!

[Taneli]

Train station and park drawings and some studies.

[Taneli]

More studies and an inconsistent character sketch.

[Taneli]

Some sticks to see if I remember the proportions and a page of studies.

[Surion]

Hey man!
Great to see you practicing, i can see you growing with every drawing you make, so keep it up! Nice anatomy studies btw.

Cheers,
Surion

[destinyapocalypse]

good jobss
clear

[Taneli]

Surion, destinyapocalypse: Thanks!

Here's another batch of gestures (I think) from the train station. It's really fun to do these! Definitely beats studying from books.

[Dannelf]

Wow! Amazing progress compared to the number of posts.
I did really like your lifedrawings, especially the one with the boat. Really don't have anything to crit! You're drawing the right things! would though like to see some imaginative work.
Smell ya!

[Taneli]

Dannelf: I don't like to do stuff from imagination because they end up looking like total lol. Here's a drawing from my head just for you though: An average lunatic naked in the sky, in a non-flying pose, leading a pack of flying turnips.

Having fun at the station again and some studies which I tried to do a lot faster than before. It shows, ugh!

[Dannelf]

I am honoured, and I really liked the randomness! But if you don't enjoy doing it then skip it! It's important to draw what you like to draw, not to lose motivation!
Keep posting!

[Taneli]

Dannelf: Ironically, I'm back from a big motivation slump! I do like to draw from imagination, it's the most fun thing to do when it's going well but it very rarely does that.

Studies, fast still life and an ugly doodle.

[Taneli]

I present you: horrible studies with a charcoal stick.

[Nibras]

aawesome amount of studies
And you have improved.
Draw what you see
Alot of life drawing will help!
Life drawing rockz, just draw what you see, like everywhere
Keep at it

[Taneli]

I'm a big fan of good music.