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    Drawing from Observation (Due Dec. 23)

    How the heck are you supposed to look at something 3D and draw it in proper proportion on a 2D surface?

    It’s easy to copy a photograph, because everything has already been flattened into a 2D image for you. Photographs can be a great tool for illustrators who already know how to draw. But for those who are learning how to draw, unrestrained use of photographs can easily get in the way of learning.

    However, there are good things to be learned from photographs at any level. For example, I have attached a photograph of two revolutionary War reenactors – a fife player and a Redcoat. One is obviously farther away from the camera than the other. I’ve drawn a few horizontal green lines overtop of them. Since the actors have been flattened into a convenient 2D image, those lines show clearly that, for instance, the fife-player’s elbows are at the same height as the Redcoat’s tails.

    It is much easier to see these sorts of relationships in an image that has already been flattened into a 2D image. In order to develop the skill of being able to sketch what you see in real life, you need to train your brain how to look at 3D scenes and see them as flat images.

    Imagine a perfectly horizontal line. Now sketch it. Practice sketching several horizontal lines on a scrap of paper. They must be parallel to each other and reasonably straight. Don’t just assume that you can do this – practice it at least enough to verify that you can do it.

    Great! Now do the same with vertical lines.

    If you can imagine and draw horizontal and vertical lines, then you can sketch anything, no matter how complex.

    For this assignment, I want you to pick one subject and draw it from different angles, using horizontal and vertical lines to help find the proper relationships between “landmarks” in a drawing. A landmark can be any small detail with a precise location: the corner of a fold in a cloth, the corner of a box, an elbow, etc. Leave some or all of your horizontal and vertical guidelines visible in your drawing so that I can see your “ah-ha” moments. Don't use a camera, but instead train your brain to observe like a camera.

    Here are some suggestions for your subject matter:

    The human body - If you have a figure-drawing session available to you, use this to map out the form. Is the heel vertically aligned with the shoulder? Is the right elbow horizontally aligned with the left wrist? This could also be done with one of those silly posable wooden dolls that are supposedly a staple of all artist’s studios. If you use one of those figures, be sure to try foreshortened poses, because they don’t have much else to offer.

    Perspective – Ultimately, mechanical perspective is only a useful tool if you can also sketch a box from imagination. And in order to sketch a box from imagination, you first need to spend some time observing and sketching boxes from life. Set up some simply, boxy objects, and use horizontal and vertical guidelines to sketch them without the use of mechanical perspective.

    More perspective – Do the same as above, but with the interior of your house.

    Cloth – Anyone who aspires to draw people for a living also needs to be familiar with cloth, because we have a tendency to wrap our naked bodies in the stuff. Take a plain piece of cloth (no prints or patterns, please), and hang it or tie it or drape it over something so that it forms interesting wrinkles. Use horizontal and vertical guidelines to sketch it.

    Hopefully that’s enough to get you started. I’ll be around for most of the week to give feedback. Either late Friday or early Saturday I’ll be heading off on a road trip, so I’ll tentatively say the due-date is Sunday, December 23. Have fun!
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    Thanks for posting this Seedling - btw, don't mind the PM I sent you, I was in rambling stuphor mode Went out on the town last night and felt loads better. I love Hong Kong's harbour.

    But anyway, I think this is the best place to ask - how do you define drawing from observation? I was always under the impression that if you draw from observation, that you draw without any conceptual drawing aids, no construction, no marking landmarks, no plumbing, no rough envelope and angles, etc. And that if you did any of those it automatically becomes construction. Am I wrong in this?

    And eventually after practice, do you get better at this and don't need to draw the plumbing lines (I guess this is what the horizontal and vertical lines are called)?

    Thanks a bunch Seedling

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    Hey Rabbi. Sorry I didn't answer your e-mail. I did come up with this assignment in response to it.

    Drawing from observation is looking at a thing and drawing it. There is no strict definition that says you can't use this sort of trick. Anyway, in time this sort of trick becomes an automatic part of drawing from observation. And furthermore, who cares about definitions? You do what you need to get the job done. If there are ever rules to art, they should be there to facilitate you, not get in your way.

    I'll be back later. . . got to go unbury my car and get gifts in the mail. I'm glad to hear you are feeling better today.
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    Ok, thanks Seedling, I always had thought that you drawing from observation was purely and painstakingly drawing the detailed contours slowly, and that any deviation from this was construction, and therefore "sinful" in a way. I sort of need someone to tell me these things, as I have an inability to grasp the sheer painstakingly obvious due to layers and layers of neuroses that have build up in my mind for the last 20 years of my existence on this planet. Ho hum! I'm a walking bag of it

    But anyway, thanks for that, that clears up a few things.

    Anyways, I've already done 3 drawings of 3 different angles of a piece of tissue on my desk. I'll do some more of some more objects and post them.

    Many thanks once again.

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    You picked an Ironic assignment Seedling. I was just being annoyed at myself as I finished a final in one of my classes about needing to draw from life more instead of all pictures. I was sketching cloth this morning even, lol. I'll post my first sketches bit later.
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    I think i'll give this a try as well. i recently also discovered that drawing from photographs all the time does not get you as far as you would like to be. I really started to develop more when i desided to put the photos away and just think when drawing

    I'll see what subject i can find for this.

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    Hi guys! Glad to have you aboard. I'll definately be extending the deadline on this one, because I'm so preoccupied with other stuff this week. I'll be hitting the road tomorrow and may be still driving on Saturday, so I'll be absent for a bit. Post your work when ready!
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    Well, I haven't completed any of the other lessons, but I might give this a shot.

    Now all I need is a subject matter...

    EDIT: Hmm... I gave this a shot but was interrupted before I could finish drawing. I guess I'll post what I have anyway, and might make another attempt tomorrow.
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    I've also managed to finally stop procrastinating and join in this time.

    These are my two attempts so far. For the second one, I realised I had no idea where I would draw the lines from, so I ended up drawing a quick grid and trying to fit my drawing into it. Maybe I should have used something simpler, like a single piece of cloth, instead of a heap of random clothing...
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    Dual Light source.
    *edit: lol didn't read thorougly all the assignment instructions. =p redo.
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    A drawing of my tiny workspace in the corner of the room. I think this is a good practice for me even though the result isn't so good.
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    Seedling is out of town right now, but I'm going to stop in tomorrow (Monday) if no one minds and go over what you've all done. I have to get my last week thread finished off first, and post a new assignment that you might find interesting, but I'll be here right after.

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    Hi everyone! Sorry I’m tardy. Hope you all had a happy Christmas.

    Flay – nicely done. Those models never seem capable of keeping anything but off-balance poses. You’ve caught the off-balance pose well. Watch those vertical lines – the one hanging down from the chin isn’t quite vertical.

    CurSe – I suppose a grid can work for this, but the main challenge is to figure out where to place your own lines. I think you did quite well with the pile of books. Kudos for trying a subject as tough as a pile of laundry! Be sure your horizontals and verticals are as perfect as possible, because crooked lines will throw your composition out of whack.

    Confuzed – lol. Well, it looks like you got some good study time in even though you didn’t quite follow the directions.

    Enrigo – looks like some good observation, there. An important part of drawing in perspective is first understanding how rectangular forms fall in space, and that starts with observation. Do keep an eye on those verticals and horizontals. A few of them got a bit crooked on you.

    Ilaekae – Merry Christmas! I hope you had a party comparable to the one my in-laws threw last night.
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    And Merry Christmas back at you, Beautiful, and a happy happy drunken New Year. Sorry, but I screwed up my scheduling so badly that you actually beat me to here. I posted the next assignment and stretched it a bit so you don't have to worry about this coming weekend. Hope i didn't screw up anything you had planned...
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    Thanks Ilaekae! That's a good idea stretching out the assignments right now. Vacation has got me feeling mucho slothy.

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    hi.. i'm newbie too, hope to get some advance comments on my sketches.. i'm from south-east asia looking forward to work in USA... i read alot from your thread previously which was trully awsome...(gameart- advice) i'm learning animation in maya now in the institution near my town.. i'm proficient in using polygon modelling with high-poly count but know nothing of animation art...
    sori for asking question not related with the topic b'coz i thought the game art advice-thread close oledi...
    my question is:
    -is it possible the company from overseas fly out the candidate who is really kick-ass? even from other continents? i'm not talking about myself but just curious..
    - is there any thread related with animation here?
    i'm still hoping ur guidance to bring me closer to the field
    here is my latest sketch (concept drawing from tablet) i think of putting color on it... but still looking for improvement...
    thanks alot
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    sori for the size...

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    chanf - Hi, and welcome.

    If you want to get some advice on that sketch, you should rather post it in the works in progress forum, or start a sketchbook here if you want regular feedback on your artwork. This thread is only meant for posting assignments. Enjoy posting on CA.

    Seedling - Thanks for the crit. I think I'm going to try and get some more practice in once I've completed the next assigment.

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    chanf - it would be better if you posted your games industry questions in the games industry threads. To answer your questions, yes, it is possible for people to be flown internationally for interviews, but I suspect it is quite rare. You would have to be producing work of the quality that is featured on the CA banner. I don't know if there is an animation thread aroud here.
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