Draw more before I come to stockholm and rape your house.
Dude, I don't have a scanner! Here's a self portrait I did yesterday, captured Cell-phone styleee, yeah!
I know the right eye is too far up. I did it quick, ~20 mins standing in front of the mirror. Didn't notice the eye til later. My jaw got pretty tired at the end though so I just wanted to wrap it up...
Last edited by Whyatt Thrash; November 16th, 2007 at 08:11 AM.
And thanks to the rest of y'all for the encouragement.
Just a heads up. Good studies.
Will write a crit later.
"There is no such thing as 'accurate drawing'. There is beautiful
drawing, and ugly, and nothing else." JAD Ingres, Ecrits sur l'art
Random sketch dump! From life and originals.. Tried to freehand some model constructions and muscle studys, on the life drawings I focused on values...
I'm still aware of the low left eye on the self portrait... I just thought I'd leave it as a 20 min study and do better next time.
me gustó la cebolla
mmmm necesito saber el secreto de tu español... es que disculpa... pero tenía que decir algo en español para que tu spañol salioera..
eres descendiente de Chilenos?
Your sketches are getting better. Seems you are getting a good grasp of drawing faces, don't blame you on that one they are very appealing to draw
For the moment, in order to increase your sense of value, just spend more time on a piece that way you will be forcing your eye to see more. It is a matter of training your eye to observe. Right now, your rendering is working well but could be further developed. Leave your whites for the strongest highlights and add shade to the rest even if it is subtle. Doing some still lifes will help you on that, yep they are sometimes boring but you will learn a lot from them. Hopefully, this doesn't sound too obvious and might be helpful somehow.
Clodioz: Jaja! No compadre, mi descendencia es medio de gitanos, algo de finlandes, sueco, ruso seguramente pero de Chileno no tengo nada (por lo que sepa yo). Mis amigos dicen que vivo como un gitano, asi que de eso seguramente tambien tengo algo...
No, es que vivi tres años en España, y alli conoci a mi polola que es chilena... Fuimos a Chile a vivir tambien un tiempecito, pero no era un proyecto muy exitoso.
Asi que... El español lo domino bastante. Con acento chileno, por supuesto. Cashai, o no?
Thanks for the comments, guys!
Aleosun: Finished pieces? Yeah, I'm still in the sketching stage, I find it hard to really find a liking to colours. Pencils are my favourite medium, and the most rewarding for me. Up til now at least when I'm learning about values etc, I've always found that creating the structure for the drawing is much more interesting than shading and the such... I'll see what I can do though, I'm gonna have to whip something up or people will lose interest... But it's hard to stray from the pencil, I just like it so damn much...
Andres: Many of these pieces actually have the "subtle shading" you're requesting, but the scanner I'm using just seems to eat them up... Those big white spaces on many drawings are just what it looks like, overexposure from the scanner.
I totally see what you're saying though, everything noted, am definetily and will definetily think about it.
es que como en Suecia viven hartos chilenos y hubo cierta frase que te salió un tanto chilena y un dibujo tenía una nota en sp ... xd
Pretty solid progress so far, good to see the seeming commitment to the craft. The best thing you've posted, hands down, is that study of an onion, it uses planes and line to describe form with lost edges and dark darks.
Right now, your work is still in it's early stages, you're having problems with the basic proportions, line, value, structure, and it seems as if you're scared of color and also finishing things, based on your responses to others.
Drawing is understanding, not copying. The point of doing a copy is to understand how a master came to the conclusions he did, not to replicate his work. Ask yourself questions like, why did he make these lines like this, why are these values chosen, how do these edges reinforce the form? Sitting in front of another person's work just trying to duplicate it does you little good.
The age old mantra of DRAW FROM LIFE is what I'm getting at. Those self portraits are getting there, but because you're scared of finishing, you're not developing the pieces enough to see your own mistakes. That's bad. One of the best things an artist can do is see the mistakes as quickly and efficiently as possible. Look at your own self portrait, spend time looking at it and trying to figure out for yourself why it isn't as successful as it could be. After that, understand what needs to be changed and try to understand how and why it needs to be changed.
Do some more self portraits, from life, and spend a ton of time on them, especially in the beginning...don't spend any time shading (which is actually about describing how planes are affected by the light rather than putting in tone, tone is a means to form). Spend all the time using LINE to describe as much as possible, meaning to work out the proportions, work out the foreshortening, work out the shapes of the shadows, and work out why certain line weights directly change how form is understood.
Once you've adequately brought your drawing as far as you think you can with just line, start to add the tone, following form to describe the planes. And here's the kicker, because you'll be using a pencill, you'll still be using line to make the form. Hence, line is quintessential to drawing.
Do not be afraid of how the drawing looks, that's just a byproduct of how well you understand what you're seeing. Just be concerned with the process of understating what you're seeing, what mistakes seem to be cropping up, and why they did, and how to better understand how not to make those mistakes again.
I hope to see an attempt! If not, I just hope to see more honest effort.
Obvious troll is obvious
Even though it's not evident, I assure you I do my best to learn with what I got, study and observe whenever I can, and follow all the advice and critique given to me. I think it's fairly obvious if you follow my thread that a few posts after each critique I've worked on exactly the critique offered. But maybe it's not obvious, and maybe I'm just not getting it or not progressing fast enough.
Thanks for the tips, though... Gonna have a go at what you described. Sounds hard, and hard is good... "Hard" is "learning".
Jaja, sisi, aca hay cualquier cantidad de chilenos, es verdad... Gracias a Pinocho.. :/
Pense: que raro, que no suelo escribir en mis dibujos en español... Pero AHORA cacho, te referi a ESTE dibujo... Si te fijai ves que es un formulario de gramatica española, o sea eso era cuando me fui a españa y estudié español... O sea, hace haaaaaarto tiempo...
Eso explica el misterio... Ya po, bueno, gracias por comentar, me alegro mucho que... te gusto... la... cebolla?? Que chucha???
Hasta ahora compadre!
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Whatever you have to do with your work, your school, your family: go study at the stockholm atelier... There you can become unstoppable.
IT'S IN YOUR TOWN! That's all you have to do. Hang out with my friend archipelago if you don't already! I just got done plein aire painting with an artist friend on this site and can assure you that the value from these friendship far outweighs the awkward artistic headbutting that inevitably occurs. Makes both parties better artists, and you can share technical tips. I've been evangelizing casein lately, but that's just me. said group of artistic friends have incredibly enriched and bettered my artwork and my life.
be nice to fatty, he's only challenging you... it's not a personal attack i assure you. Yeah he's a bit gruff sometimes but that's not something to take to heart. the "I crit hard, return the favor" mantra in your signature might be tempting folks like fatty to roast you. when someone does that keep that in mind.
my personal opinion on your artwork is that you need to draw more. it's a complicated analysis / seemingly generic but it's true. your marks, tones, concepts lack the confidence of hard-won and impossible to replace experience. ... become more obsessed with it. make it second nature to be staring at a page trying to figure out what to do next in a piece of art.
impress the hell out of us.
we expect nothing less.
Thanks Gugg! That school looks kickass. I'm gonna apply to Konstfack (again...) this spring, but this school looks a lot closer to what I'm actually interested in studying... This kindof sinks the whole deal though:
That's the problem with private schools. Expensive stuff...Atelier Stockholm does not currently have CSN, but has applied for CSN approval. Obtaining CSN is a lengthy bureaucratic process and so it is unfortunately not possible to say when approval will be granted.
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^ that made me lol. you're all like "HEY GUYZ~"
You were aware of the low left eye and fixed it, so I don't have much to say about it. ;D
Can't wait what else you do with that Thor concept.
Anyone/thing that wields an axe is win.
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