EOW# 54 Two houses, both alike in dignity, In Verona's fair city

[chaosrocks]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/chaosrocks/EOW2.jpg

EOW# 54 Two houses, both alike in dignity, In Verona's fair city

This is a very specific Brief. You may recognize it. I am not specifying a time period. It could be Renaissance, It could be POst Apocalyptic, It could be anything in between, It will require research. And I expect it to be uniquely your vision and be incredibly stylish

Required Elements

Italian
2 houses

note of caution: this is about the environment.. not about the characters



I will accept any medium.
Now... concept!



Due May 15


Description NOT required, say what you need to say visually!

[junthi]

Oh, great. I'm currently applying to an architecture school so this should be good practise. So I guess I'll be focusing on modern architecture on this :)

[AtlasIves]

so let me get this write, to similar houses in Italy??, sorry not sure i understand :P

[Edward B]

A plague o’both your houses! :evilmustache:

[Beelow]

I'm game! XD

[chaosrocks]

Background....
Note: this is not a stage set... I want an Environment

PROLOGUE

Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
Whole misadventured piteous overthrows
Do with their death bury their parents' strife.
The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love,
And the continuance of their parents' rage,
Which, but their children's end, nought could remove,
Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage;
The which if you with patient ears attend,
What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend.

Possible things to include

Act 1, Scene 1: Verona. A public place.
Act 1, Scene 2: A street.
Act 1, Scene 3: A room in Capulet's house.
Act 1, Scene 4: A street.
Act 1, Scene 5: A hall in Capulet's house.

Act 2, Prologue: PROLOGUE
Act 2, Scene 1: A lane by the wall of Capulet's orchard.
Act 2, Scene 2: Capulet's orchard.
Act 2, Scene 3: Friar Laurence's cell.
Act 2, Scene 4: A street.
Act 2, Scene 5: Capulet's orchard.
Act 2, Scene 6: Friar Laurence's cell.

Act 3, Scene 1: A public place.
Act 3, Scene 2: Capulet's orchard.
Act 3, Scene 3: Friar Laurence's cell.
Act 3, Scene 4: A room in Capulet's house.
Act 3, Scene 5: Capulet's orchard.

Act 4, Scene 1: Friar Laurence's cell.
Act 4, Scene 2: Hall in Capulet's house.
Act 4, Scene 3: Juliet's chamber.
Act 4, Scene 4: Hall in Capulet's house.
Act 4, Scene 5: Juliet's chamber.

Act 5, Scene 1: Mantua. A street.
Act 5, Scene 2: Friar Laurence's cell.
Act 5, Scene 3: A churchyard; in it a tomb belonging to the Capulets.

[AtlasIves]

ohhh righty this is romeo and juliet ahhh now i understand :D

[Seedling]

Ooooh! Perhaps this will be my weekend project. :-)

Psst. . . Chaos, the word you are looking for is "accept". . . sorry I'm persnickity . . . Thank you for running these!

[chaosrocks]

fixed... I know that... just never bothered to proof read
its been that way for weeks (blush) thanks

[sho-nuff]

so when you say the requirement is 'italian' you mean the architecture or landscape should reflect italy or an italian stylee?

[chaosrocks]

yup
there should be some visual clue that says "italian"

[the umbrella man]

Updated

Two rival corporations vie for power in the small city of Verona, one a greedy giant mega corp looking to suck the life blood from the small farming communities and exploit the cheap labor of the city, and one who wished to restore the town to it's once grand serene state. On the brink of corporate war the homes and people of Verona stand in the middle of a storm.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/pfassett/Verona-5.jpg

I really wanted to push the detail on this more, but I think 3 hours a day for 5 days is more then enough to work on one peice. This is unfortunatly as far as I could get it.

[llothcat]

i'm in

[revenebo]

Ehi! I'm from Verona! I suppose I should join...

[Beelow]

Heres my preliminary, hopefully I can finish. I did the grey border on purpose. I like the way the towers break out from the focal point.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/pfassett/Verona-1.jpg

Did I make a mistake using 3 point?


Alot of concept artists use what tools are available to them to get the work done. using 3d as a base to get perspective is not wrong at all. You can use it. But, remember that composition and moodsetting, will play the major roll in creating a successful piece. That is what I am trying discover right now. Good luck though. XD

[the umbrella man]

Alot of concept artists use what tools are available to them to get the work done. using 3d as a base to get perspective is not wrong at all. You can use it. But, remember that composition and moodsetting, will play the major roll in creating a successful piece. That is what I am trying discover right now. Good luck though. XD

If you mean using 3d models as a base, I didn't do that. I used 3 point perspective in ps. I guess thats kinda a compliment though :) Thanks.

[Moai]

Did I make a mistake using 3 point?

Not necessarily. The third vanishing point needs to be far lower, though. There's some serious warpage going on.

[Beelow]

Oh I misunderstood you the Unbrella man. Environment include perspective so it fine. But, I think the depth in your piece is blown and that the perspective is a bit forced. You should consider moving your vanishing points further away. Also the turning path doesn't help much to give believability that there is depth in your work. And you also need atmospheric perspective to give it depth.

[Seedling]

[updated] Ah, there’s so much that could still be fixed in this, but I lack the will to go on. Mike, you’re right about my perspective. I was curious as to whether I could creep up on correct perspective rather than starting with a drawing and then stiffly trying not to obliterate the lines. I think the answer is yes, I can do it this way, but I need to not rush it as much as I did. At any rate, that’s my lousy excuse for the squishy perspective.

My goal with this was to portray a passable fantasy version of historic Verona, in an arrangement setup that could be used on a stage production of Romeo and Juliet.

[chaosrocks]

in mymind its perfect.... on paper? um sstill noneexistant
:P
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[mike yamada]

http://myamada.com/stuff/italianhouses2.jpg
as finished as it is going to get.


http://myamada.com/stuff/perspfix.jpg
Seedling - you're playing a little loose with the perspective and cast shadows, but its probably the oil paint getting in the way. The objects in your scene are being lit from different positioned lights and the resulting light logic creates a inconsistent and confusing image. You may also want to consider the relative scale of the human you have placed in the scene and his size in relation to things in the environment - doors, windows, stairs, etc. He appears rather small in relation to them.

[nuru]

Wish I had thought properly about this topic earlier...I have an idea now, but not sure if I will be able to finish it in time... I'm in,anyway...
edit: had a hand-in today (my thesis for uni) so..um... ran out of time, sorry. Keep practicing umbrella man - don't give up :)

[the umbrella man]

This is taking me way too long. I'm trying to make my edges too perfect and it's takin me far too long. Bleh.

[Beelow]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/beelow2/Verona-3paintover.jpg

Unbrella man here is a quick paintover of what I think you should do for depth and focus. the design is not the best either. But, you will learn that over time. I am still trying to get better design, always! I hope this is useful to you! XD

[llothcat]

my attempt at the topic...been too long..need to practice environments more.

[D-Holme]

Chaos (and all) - I've been putting something together to try to enter this but wondered whether an additional 24 hours would be available on this one?

16.05.07
Finalised Image

The hold-manse of the industrialist Montague family looks out across the Bay of Verona at the seat of the aristocratic Capulets. Tensions between the two families have increased with recent bloodshed, now the Prince’s armoured cruiser Augustine lies at anchor, charged with maintaining the civil peace.
http://www.milecastle.com/EOW54-DHolme.jpg


-A

[the umbrella man]

@beelow: Thanks for the suggestions. My composition is pretty much a mess. I'll probably bow out of this one, but I am definatly seeing an improvement each time I do one of these, so I'll probably keep doing them until I get better. I really should have done a more zoomed out version of this so I wouldn't have to be so freaking exact with everything. Oh well live and learn. Thanks again for the help.

[chaosrocks]

would another 24 help?
It would me....
chaos

[robmorfin]

Thanks again, Chaos, you are the best!

[D-Holme]

WIP Updated.

Thank you Chaos, that extension is a great help.

-A

[chaosrocks]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/chaosrocks/EOW-2-houses-8w.jpg

dunno if this is done might be ..Im bored of it
description to follow

chaosrox

[the umbrella man]

[updated]
My goal with this was to portray a passable fantasy version of historic Verona, in an arrangement setup that could be used on a stage production of Romeo and Juliet.

That looks pretty great, I don't notice the perspective errors overtly so I think you achieved what you wanted. Most importantly it looks like an Italian city, so there you go. I hope you decide to do more of these in the future, I really like this one.



Unbrella man here is a quick paintover of what I think you should do for depth and focus. the design is not the best either. But, you will learn that over time. I am still trying to get better design, always! I hope this is useful to you! XD

I think I am actually going to get rid of the wall, and just clutter the whole place up with homes. think it will look a damn site better without the wall in the way.

[D-Holme]

Final Image up (above) - good luck to everyone with the poll, although I thought there would be more entries with a well defined topic like this.

I found trying to capture the 'Italian' element the hardest but although it isn't setting the world on fire I am rather pleased with how it came out, certainly the most complete picture I've managed to do digitally.

-A

[the umbrella man]

Final Image up (above) - good luck to everyone with the poll, although I thought there would be more entries with a well defined topic like this.

I found trying to capture the 'Italian' element the hardest but although it isn't setting the world on fire I am rather pleased with how it came out, certainly the most complete picture I've managed to do digitally.

-A

I think the rendering on the boat is probably the best thing about the composition, it draws my eyes right to it, and it has enough detail to be pleasing.

[chaosrocks]

the mod is having a fit of lazy...I will close this and take it to poll @9AM EST TOMORROW. you can slide in noodle time and updates till then

chaos

[Beelow]

I think I am actually going to get rid of the wall, and just clutter the whole place up with homes. think it will look a damn site better without the wall in the way.

I think that was the major problem in the piece. That is why I painted out. I think that will work out for you. I colored the background the way I did for atmosphere. Composition and Overall Design should be main focus for you, of anyone doing concepts. I hope that you post your entry here. Just do it! And do it every week! You'll improve! XD

[Sung-jae Kim]

wip1
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/EOW/05401.jpg
wip2
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/EOW/05402.jpg
wip3
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/EOW/05403.jpg
wip4
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/EOW/05404.jpg
uh OH~!
Hopefully I'll figure something out.

update!

lalalaalalaa~~ Discovered some new things while doing this :)
I'll have to work faster next time... Have to go to school in 3.5hrs so... :yawn:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g179/Sung-jae_Kim/EOW/05405.jpg

[robmorfin]

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u292/robmorfin/robmorfin-2italianhousesfinal.jpg
Final.

[Beelow]

Final.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/beelow/ItalianhousesinVerona3.jpg

Phew... no brief. I can go watch Ghostbusters now. XD

[PXLPropheT]

mabe a stupid ? but what size canvas's are you painting on for this type of thing:) tks

[chaosrocks]

I dunno I start at about 2 by3 inc thumnail
thaen I keep resizing
and increasingthe resolution till I get the detail I want
usually about 8" by 10" at 200 dpi
then I resize back down to post

[chaosrocks]

closed
new round is on
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1323852#post1323852