Who's on Deviant?

[ArtEdGradStudent]

I just joined.

http://tarthursmith.deviantart.com/

I'm just lookin to see who else here's on there, and such.

[chaosrocks]

ew

chaos

[drd]

Not many people here like dA. Mostly because it's a huge compilation of asspats who are of no use to you other than praise.

So go there if you are down, but when you're in the mood to make art stay far away.

[Hyskoa]

That's like asking who has aids.
The few people who willingly have it aren't eager to talk about it outside of their support groups.

[Infinit]

the better question would be:
"Who thinks it's usefull to be on deviantArt?"

most ppl here would say: "Not me!"

[Elwell]

I think being on deviantArt would be very useful for someone intending to be a high school art teacher. Think of it like Jane Goodall living with the chimps. And no, I don't mean that ironically at all.

[Seedling]

I think being on deviantArt would be very useful for someone intending to be a high school art teacher. Think of it like Jane Goodall living with the chimps. And no, I don't mean that ironically at all.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! :-)) Not a bad idea. Though, personally, I go for www.icouldbe.org

[LateNiteHype]

I'm on dA- for what its worth.

http://www.artillery77.deviantart.com

I was trying to get back into art and thought that maybe the crits would help- it's kinda hard to get them if your style isn't anime.

And my anime hand is not strong.

I still post in my journal there but for getting my skills up CA is the serious business.

[viperxmns]

I've been there for a while.. kinda wish I knew about this site sooner. Found out about it earlier this year.. Gotta do some work though, I've hardly posted here.

[Senira]

I mostly use DA to keep track of all my favorite artists. I rarely update my own DA page anymore, since hardly anyone goes to it. *shrugs*

[Jtho]

Man, I've always considered DeviantArt to be an overgrown, myspacey version of Elfwood; take that as you will.

The only reason I have any respect for the site at all is that the most skilled artist I know has a fairly active deviantart page, so I guess that counts for... something.

[JenZee]

I AM ON DEVIANTART AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!!!!!

http://jenzee.deviantart.com

You guys are snotty haters ;)!

[Sinix]

Agreed with Jen, I wouldn't at all consider it a skill developing site (like conceptart.org), but it's still a fun site to socialize with a lot of great artists I know on there (and there are a lot of great ones on there). Plus, I think it's important to try to keep track of what is popular among the general demographic. Even if it's weird stuff.

http://sinix.deviantart.com/

[Icon]

deviant art gives me shrieking cooties. :D nah I kid. I used to have a deviant art account but then I found CA....unfortunately I have a one track mind and focus on one site only. woops. Some wonderful art in there though.. not the majority...but nice nonetheless :P

[Paul "Otaking"]

Well, I'm on both. There are some truly astounding works of art on there, and that's not sarcasm.

I do think that the general Conceptart view on Deviantart is a little high and mighty, like 'all those on Deviantart are just 12 year old kids drawing pictures of Nah-rooo-tow in crayons.'
This is not true! 98% of people on Deviantart draw crayon pictures of 'Saaah-soo-kay,' and not 'Nah-rooo-tow' at all. 6% of people on Deviantart are excellent artists, several times better than me or indeed most of the people here! Did you see my good maths there!

Seriously, though. Have a look at some of these:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42300009/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25738571/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23479199/?qo=18&q=by%3Adiablo2003&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps

And, of course, my personal favourite:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/25779379/

[Rich Pellegrino]

I'm on there, I'm with Jens tho' CA is the place to learn. However, DA is good for staying in touch with college buddies. I do like how they give you a gallery, when is CA's going to start working?

[LateNiteHype]

Plus, I think it's important to try to keep track of what is popular among the general demographic. Even if it's weird stuff.

Amen brother- when a picture gets 2000 hits, then there must be something to it.


I tend to keep a more kinda-professional tone to my interactions on CA since there are pros here giving time to teach (I'm definitely taking more than I am giving) so I think its only right to be more respectful.

On dA, I post much of the stuff that doesn't really have a place here. I do try to apply what I learn here over there and see what the masses think.

I also drop more F- bombs over there.

[Onir]

However, DA is good for staying in touch with college buddies.

Ya know that's exactly a reason I'm considering signing up for it; I know a number of my friends have DA accounts and I've been asked if I have one before. I never really joined because I never really thought about it honestly... I looked on that site a little while ago just browsing, but was put off a little by some of the things there. there are definitely good people there, I just kinda drifted away from viewing much there at a point... I think this site helped in that ;)

Yea though, I don't see it as being a bad thing at all really; if anything it's just another way to connect with people. I'll probably join at some point. it'd be a nice way to let some people know about this site as well.

[ArtEdGradStudent]

Deviant art has three things going for it, for me.

1. They give you a free profile page that looks professional enough, and allows unlimited art submissions. You can even sell prints of your work! I may "buy" some of these prints, especially as mugs and postcards and sell them in stores.

2. It shows potential employers that I'm social with other artists - it's not just a job, it's my life.

3. There are good artists on there, especially photographers, and more importantly, there are many many artists on there. The second I posted stuff I got all sorts of comments from people. You don't learn from crits like you do here, but you do find artists in your area. You can type in the name of any town in the world and find art about it on deviant. Give me enough time and I might turn them into business contacts, at least once they all turn 20 or so.

[look]

1. They give you a free profile page that looks professional enough...
I don't think it's a good idea to use DeviantArt as your portfolio site. It's a really good site, especially their messaging and watch features. But it's really not professional looking. Each artist's profile page is pretty badly laid out, especially to people never been to DA before.

Also, I would fear that what if your potential client decide to take a look around after seeing your DA page, and all of a sudden, they are looking at all the amature anime drawing and web-cam shots, what would they think?

Anyway, it's a great site to network and keep track of new works from your favorite artists, but really shouldn't be used as your primary online portfolio site.

[Arne S.]

sometimes i come as a "guest"... -thats all!

[Adam Nowak]

I found out about ConceptART way before DeviantART and I decided to join both. DeviantART is alright. A lot of good artists on there just as there are on CA, but the quality is dragged down by 95% of the site presenting everyones doodles and what they draw in class. Unknown people become lost and aren't seen by anyone like myself. Even though I use it as a place to put some artwork, I still would like a personal portfolio site.

[Shamagim]

DA is a nice place to have fun, make friends and show some art while doing it....But it is not a portfolio site and it rarely shows anything to potential employers......To much to look at, to little time those potential employers have. Even great artists in that site get lost in an huge ocean of amateur art.

Is more likely that they´ll see your work after you send some hard copys, or just make your own portfolio site and send it to their database.

The features such as stamps, prints, etc are effective tools for hobby artists...


Employers won´t hire you based on how social you are over the internet, they might even notice just how much time you waste....Even here in CA.org. Being polite and reliable is far more important.

[Sinix]

I don't think it's a good idea to use DeviantArt as your portfolio site. It's a really good site, especially their messaging and watch features. But it's really not professional looking. Each artist's profile page is pretty badly laid out, especially to people never been to DA before.

Also, I would fear that what if your potential client decide to take a look around after seeing your DA page, and all of a sudden, they are looking at all the amature anime drawing and web-cam shots, what would they think?

Anyway, it's a great site to network and keep track of new works from your favorite artists, but really shouldn't be used as your primary online portfolio site.

Yea, I definitely wouldn't send your DA page off as your portfolio site. Forget amateur anime, let's talk about "inflation art" and bestiality. This is the front page today: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44156425/

[xoet]

I found DA via a post on this site

I found this site via a post on the starbase 118 forums

there are other art site's I use like http://www.renderosity.com/

Strange thing is they all complain about how poorly my English is er are at times

I just don't know why? btw I also dislike the fact that my dyslexia makes it difficult for my to communicate at the level I know I can.. [note to self] if I spend all my time debugging a sentence of dyslexia then I am not doing my art which is enhanced (imo) by my dyslexia and subconscious Freuding mistakes. [ it took three tries with a dictionary at hand to spell subconscious right I hope]

so to deal with the fact that any group of googlie yahoos can start a forum a group a concept a deviation and or render art as if it was something I have decided to create my own personal group at google beta beyond the other groups and My space / my space like sites of course you can do the same this quest for blogging and such and then into a group thing is great just well until my site is up and I can upload quicker I will be at

google group (http://groups.google.com/group/h92o/) is my h92o google group and of course i blog with h92o

I have moved on from the last year's work on the blog group (http://xoet.blogspot.com)

since my change of address in the real world I am starting a new net ID h92o from the net ID xoet most things googled with my ID is mine if it is in english and such...

Bill Newbold...

the reason for such a creation of net ID's is cause during a google of my name in the white pages there are many Bill Newbold's out there hence the need for my to differenciate there is one other Bill Newbold even in the city of new brunswick where I live.

going by my complete name may be good since there is not another william victor newbold on the planet earth but still that is too long to deal with as an ID

got to go cause of rl need to chant with a friend

peace

[Kevin Lam]

Personally, dA has done nothing for me. All they have there is ridiculous anime slathered in Photoshop.

[Seedling]

ArtEdGradStudent - Don't give your employers links to places where you have put up personal info on yourself, unless that personal info is very tightly controlled - such as a biography, or selected essays. A professional webpage is along the lines of what you would mail to a company to apply for a job. If you wouldn't mail it, don't link to it.

[ArtEdGradStudent]

good point. I may try and hide the comments on it.

[Johanna Saarenpää]

Sure I have an account there, I'm mainly there to watch my favourite artists, to all of you who complain there isn't any good stuff: you just don't bother looking very hard, do you? Because several very skilled and even professional artists can be found at devart. Also I like dA because I sometimes meet interesting people.

[Katfayheirti]

Like many people DA is where I go to keep up with my friends, not where I go for actual critiques.

[NicoRaven]

Since the judge and jury have spoke all I want to know is who are actually the some of the top favorites on dA cause I dont want to just tangled in the mangaka wannabee confusion.

all i want ito know is who are your top ten artist to watch there.

[SgtDirtbag]

Personally, dA has done nothing for me. All they have there is ridiculous anime slathered in Photoshop.
That's so ignorant and narrow-minded, it's not even funny anymore. :nohope:

(click 'em for fullview)
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/2281/snakeshotbyartgermpr2.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/12638663/)...http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6121/samusblastsametroidbyvets4.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/10704570/)
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/8168/onegirlinalltheworldbythc7.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/40975299/)...http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/5081/happytobemyself2byartgenu6.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/12345693/)
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2769/girlongianthandbytobieewj2.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36651229/)...http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/9015/apbgossamerbyarnistotlezw4.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/34124548/)
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5420/aburodterrabyalexiussjn8.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/26245523/)...http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9371/theworkstation2byjujikaqv1.jpg (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19440784/)

Just to name a few out of many.
Look through their galleries and their favourite folders and you'll find much more good stuff.

Sure, DA is nothing compared to CA when it comes to learning and improving ones skills, but saying that there's only crap on DA is just plain wrong and ignorant.

[redFIVE]

My DA: http://whoreray.deviantart.com/

Honestly, DA has gotten me a couple jobs in the past, so it's not ALL bad. Though I guess it hasn't done much for me lately :P

[Vigilandus]

Personally, dA has done nothing for me. All they have there is ridiculous anime slathered in Photoshop.

Don't forget the anthros..

For me it doesn't at all create a feeling of a genuine online art community. And you have to harass people in order to get some critique..

Static bishoujos rule their world.

[Meli Hitchcock]

For me it doesn't at all create a feeling of a genuine online art community. And you have to harass people in order to get some critique..

Probably because the place wasn't designed or geared for that type of serious learning. That's what sites like this one are for. ;)

I personally like DA for the simple reason I can upload any genre of art, when I want, and have it immediately up for view the next second. Too many other serious sites I go to have jurys that approve your work. I like the convenience of posting something and not having to wait a week or a month for my gallery to update. =/

http://melihitchcock.deviantart.com/

[GriNGo]

DA is a good social networking community, but not much else. Yes good art is there, but it's hard to find, and I practically find deviantart to be very overwhelming. Sometimes it can be useful... when I need photo refs, deviantart has some good stuff in that area,

for the record, I used to have a da account, but I deleted it. i prefer the harsh steppes of CA.org criticism to simple & dumb "thank you for the fav!" notes.

[Simon.Rain]

JenZee - your deviantions have been added 10562 to favorites and now 10564 cause I added 2 of them to my favorites =)

I have an account but I put mostly pictures. Pretty much forgot about it ever since I discovered CA...

I find people are totaly incapable to classify their deviations... I'm sorry but a photoshop montage of a wrestler is NOT an horror & macabre photography heheheh

[thesinfulsaint]

I have a DA account, but ignore anything before 2006... I wince at a lot of that old stuff. My style and tastes have changed much since then. :)

thesinfulsaint.deviantart.com (http://thesinfulsaint.deviantart.com)

[Dile_]

Yay! I have a DA account... Only visits for their resources though.. But I guess
its good that we try to clean the DA picture on this board.. although, the "wowz u r zo damn awezome taht iT killz my brain xD" comments are a little bit way to common... But hey, the community isnt retarded !! also, I had the image set to that DA was a places for thief's for a while after looking into these art-theft threads... Now Im been lurking around (as many says, just for fun kinda, not there for learning!) and I know better.
ohwell, my account is Dileart.deviantart.com never used it kinda , but i still got one ;)

[Simon.Rain]

also, I had the image set to that DA was a places for thief's for a while after looking into these art-theft threads...

Soooo that's why people there put about 45 name, logo, mark, copyright, TM, company, email adress, nickname, signature, social security number, fingerprints and their lawer's name for sueing purposes on ONE single picture... it takes them more time to do so than to draw the whole image... hahahaha

[Dile_]

Simon, I meant... before I acctually visited the site ;) you know.. Rumors ? :P
and by these threads here on CA about art-theft.
I was talking to blanquish before on MSN , and said that "Hey blanq, you've checked out deviantart.com resources ?" and he was like.. "YOU VISIT THAT SITE ????? OMG I DONT KNOW YOU ANYMORE" haha... and he has never been there.. I guess it depends on the fact that here on ca, as soon as you mention DA, you get blacklisted :P

I mean.. just look here..

"That's like asking who has aids.
The few people who willingly have it aren't eager to talk about it outside of their support groups."

Its like that...

Ohwell, now im going away with this topic... Just thought i should explain..
I have nothing against DA.. but as mentioned in this thread, that community isnt really about learning.. I just browse it "for fun" thats it =)

~Dile

[look]

I find people are totaly incapable to classify their deviations... I'm sorry but a photoshop montage of a wrestler is NOT an horror & macabre photography heheheh
ROFL.

There are different type of art communities. CA is focused on learning and improving. DA is focused on sharing and networking. Just because one is plagued with armatures and idiots, it doesn't necessarily mean it's worthless. I've made a few good friends there who are both serious artist and great person.

CA is a classroom, DA is a bar. No need to act all snobbish and pretend you never want to get drunk and dirty once in awhile. ;)

[Debachi]

<a href="http://Debachi.deviantart.com">My Page on DevArt</a>!

[btsculptor]

Not many people here like dA. Mostly because it's a huge compilation of asspats who are of no use to you other than praise.

So go there if you are down, but when you're in the mood to make art stay far away.

Wow. Wow wow wow! I didn't realize that CA was such a snobbish, elitist community. Obviously, if this is your opinion of DA, then you haven't really looked at DA! I'm there mostly because several world-reknowned photographers hang out there, but here are a few links for art that I think rival anything here.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/45059928/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24705615/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15509610/

And here's my link there: http://btsculptor.deviantart.com/

[drd]

You're implying that I think myself 'elitist'? That's not a very smart thing to do, seeing as you know nothing about me or my personality.

And no, you're wrong (gasp) unfortunately. I have some kickass work on my favorites list that, in my opinion blow away anything I see on the links you gave me. (Notice, IMO.)

There are some kickass artists on dA. But the fact still remains that it's mostly just a huge compilation of asspats that do not help you. I don't remeber that last time someone gave my critique on dA, even when I put everything on 'Critique Encouraged'. Mostly they just don't post at all.

[Main Loop]

there's some good things about deviantart, they have a good reference section and libraries of artist's tools if you know where to find them... also theres somre really good photography on there

[btsculptor]

You're implying that I think myself 'elitist'? That's not a very smart thing to do, seeing as you know nothing about me or my personality.

And no, you're wrong (gasp) unfortunately. I have some kickass work on my favorites list that, in my opinion blow away anything I see on the links you gave me. (Notice, IMO.)

There are some kickass artists on dA. But the fact still remains that it's mostly just a huge compilation of asspats that do not help you. I don't remeber that last time someone gave my critique on dA, even when I put everything on 'Critique Encouraged'. Mostly they just don't post at all.

LOL!!!

[Dile_]

LOL!!!

Lol@you dork, you obviously could not excuse or defend your self
enough posting, so you hopefully knew you where wrong saying you acctually
knew how drd are as a person or how s/he thinks. Also drd is VERY right, the only
thing DA has to come with as far as critique / comments goes, is pure encouragement-asspats. ( of course there are people who give real critique, but they
are VERY few, if they even bother posting at DA anymore, a lot of of these guys over there have problems with critique. )

~Dile

[Divorce]

http://browse.deviantart.com/traditional/drawings/people/ ...

That's all I have to say about dA. It usually speaks for itself, you're lucky to find one good picture in 3 pages or more.

[btsculptor]

http://browse.deviantart.com/traditional/drawings/people/ ...

That's all I have to say about dA. It usually speaks for itself, you're lucky to find one good picture in 3 pages or more.


Interesting - you think that, just because people don't have professional level talent, they shouldn't post their work? I just looked at your sketchbook, and I don't think you have a lot of room to talk!

[worxe]

I don't remeber that last time someone gave my critique on dA, even when I put everything on 'Critique Encouraged'. Mostly they just don't post at all.

I had this aswell, and my work deffinently isnt so good that it cant be critiqued.. Noone posts whenever I put work up even with critique encouraged option checked.. or otherwise I just get a bunch of asspats even for details I thought were wrong or badly done.

Nevertheless dA still has a few of its perks. Although I stopped my account there for the above reason..


Also, no idea where you're getting at btsculptor, people from all sorts of backgrounds and levels of skill come to this site (and others) and post their work for help in furthering themselves. dA just tends to be too lenient when it comes to critiques because of the swamped population of amatuers (read: not a derogatory comment) that go there that the very few experts that do know their proffession will rarely be able to drop a comment/critique for you to work on, the rest is comments from said amatuers which are all asspats because they dont know any better or dont want to 'offend' the person and his/her work.

[theblackhand]

I have a DA account and I don't care that young people post their beginning art. Everyone has to learn somewhere. although I don't need critiques from people I don't know, there are some good artists there. We all started somewhere.
Shall I hold your high horses while you read this post?

[btsculptor]

I had this aswell, and my work deffinently isnt so good that it cant be critiqued.. Noone posts whenever I put work up even with critique encouraged option checked.. or otherwise I just get a bunch of asspats even for details I thought were wrong or badly done.

Nevertheless dA still has a few of its perks. Although I stopped my account there for the above reason..


Also, no idea where you're getting at btsculptor, people from all sorts of backgrounds and levels of skill come to this site (and others) and post their work for help in furthering themselves. dA just tends to be too lenient when it comes to critiques because of the swamped population of amatuers (read: not a derogatory comment) that go there that the very few experts that do know their proffession will rarely be able to drop a comment/critique for you to work on, the rest is comments from said amatuers which are all asspats because they dont know any better or dont want to 'offend' the person and his/her work.


Thanks for asking, Fafnir! What I'm getting at is that I think there is no call for some of the comments made here about DA. It's an open community and anyone, regardless of skill level, gets his/her own gallery and can develop a group of friends of different skill levels, as well - from rank amateur to highly successful professional. It's not a critique site, but if you ask specific people for critiques, you're likely to get one. It's not TRYING to be CA, so comparing it is like comparing apples to oranges. And it really is the worst of snobbery and un-professionalism to compare DA membership to AIDS (Melancholie), to have Chaosrocks' reaction ("ew"), or to say the things others have said about it.

So thanks for asking! I'm done:)

[Dile_]

Btsculptor said "Interesting - you think that, just because people don't have professional level talent, they shouldn't post their work? I just looked at your sketchbook, and I don't think you have a lot of room to talk!
"

Dile says : And who the fuck are you ? Post some art, stop flamming members.
ALthough in that link that Paper Clip Clock posted it was some great stuff so I can agree with the fact that I think it was wrong saying "every third page or so"... but what you said is just fucked up sorry.. As mentioned, POST SOME ART, you havent contributed a shit to this forum so YOU should stfu man, now you made me quite angry, with your bitch attitude and way of thinking you can say whatever you want.

~Dile

[btsculptor]

Btsculptor said "Interesting - you think that, just because people don't have professional level talent, they shouldn't post their work? I just looked at your sketchbook, and I don't think you have a lot of room to talk!
"

Dile says : And who the fuck are you ? Post some art, stop flamming members.
ALthough in that link that Paper Clip Clock posted it was some great stuff so I can agree with the fact that I think it was wrong saying "every third page or so"... but what you said is just fucked up sorry.. As mentioned, POST SOME ART, you havent contributed a shit to this forum so YOU should stfu man, now you made me quite angry, with your bitch attitude and way of thinking you can say whatever you want.

~Dile

Dile,

1. I CAN say whatever I want - this is America. Where I live, anyway :) And the Internet.
2. Had you bothered to look, instead of just flaming me, you 'd find that I HAVE posted art. You teenage boys need to learn how to do this...

[Dile_]

Ok man, I didnt flame you , but I got irritated at you because you discouraged another member, wich I hate when People do. and you have yet " no room to talk!" eighter , cause you only posted Photography , wich sure is an "art" it self.. but nothing related to the topic sir.

[btsculptor]

Ok man, I didnt flame you , but I got irritated at you because you discouraged another member, wich I hate when People do. and you have yet " no room to talk!" eighter , cause you only posted Photography , wich sure is an "art" it self.. but nothing related to the topic sir.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

[Elwell]

Everybody!
CHILL
THE HELL
OUT

[Justin.]

Let me put it this way;

We have a CENTER specifically for Critique. Critique enough and you get the revered eyeball.

They have a CRITIQUE DISCOURAGED option. Critique enough and you get flamed.

I have been at DA for years, but quit just because it wasn't worth wasting my time. I pointed the few people who cared to listen to crits to this website. I hope some have signed up.

[Meli Hitchcock]

Yet, I find that hanging out in the forums, you can find quite a few artists asking for critiques on pieces or what they can do to make their work better. There are people who do want to learn and grow as artists, but feel really intimidated coming to sites like CA. It doesn't help that DA is so frowned upon here... hell before I started posting, some one posted a remark about newbies shouldn't post links to their DA galleries because no one here would take them seriously as an artist.

Technically, it shouldn't matter what gallery an artist chooses to post their work in. What should matter is their attitude and willingness to learn and improve their skills. I think that's something we could all agree on. I hope. :P

And yes, we all know that DA has it's plethora of "but it's my styyyyyle" kids who think their art is hot shit and go ape when people disagree *cough*snapesnogger*cough* But what amateur art site doesn't have people like that?

I guess I just like playing the role of Jane Goodall. Some of those chimps at DA have a lot of potential. :bashful:

[look]

... hell before I started posting, some one posted a remark about newbies shouldn't post links to their DA galleries because no one here would take them seriously as an artist.

Technically, it shouldn't matter what gallery an artist chooses to post their work in. What should matter is their attitude and willingness to learn and improve their skills...

100% agree with you right there. If CA folks are looking down on someone simply because of the address of their URL, it would really make CA folks look snobbish and arrogant.

Don't judge people by what hosts their image. People have a right to off their works on any sites they like, we just need to offer our critique.

[Justin.]

Snogger had like 405 responses within a couple hours of her Journal post on DA complaining about us.


Most (I read through pages and pages and pages of them) of those journal entries said "Don't listen to people who can't even draw proper proportions." Or "The are just jealous."

What can I say? =P I honestly have seen more hostility towards us at DA then I have seen twoards DA here.

[look]

Snogger had like 405 responses within a couple hours of her Journal post on DA complaining about us.


Most (I read through pages and pages and pages of them) of those journal entries said "Don't listen to people who can't even draw proper proportions." Or "The are just jealous."

What can I say? =P I honestly have seen more hostility towards us at DA then I have seen twoards DA here.
Cause DA has more immature minds, and it'd be pitiful if CA ever lower itself to that level by bashing every DA-related thread.

There are drama everywhere. It's up to you to stay away from them, just like how you'd avoid stepping in a puddle of mud on a rainy day (unless you want to get a mud bath).

[Masquerade]

I'm on DA, but I'm seriously considering leaving. I found CA a few weeks ago, and it's exactly what I've been looking for, so I see no point in staying on DA.

[katwalk]

ok my account that's for the most part good: http://k-a-t-w-a-l-k.deviantart.com/
for laughs:
old account, look at the name and guess why I abandoned it- http://kaorugirl.deviantart.com/
for real fun:
webcomic site (no it's not supposed to be good, just funny and twisted)- http://bunnies-of-saddness.deviantart.com/
joke account- http://sadplz.deviantart.com/


For help getting better, dA isn't very good
For praise, if you do : fanart of anime (original stuff mostly fails), anthro (only if they're naked and in sexual positions), inflation art, anything sonic related, anything naruto related, anything inuyasha related, artistic nude pictures really being 100 pictures of you touching yourself, myspace-esk camwhore pics/ pictures of fuzzy animals,or hemaphrodite nagas having hermaphrodite naga sex(hahaha guess who and yes, I did see her thread). doing anything other than that will get you ignored by most of the site
to get attention you have to beg shamefully
belive me I know, I have about 4000 all together posts in here > http://forum.deviantart.com/community/complaints/

but, If you want an easy way to display your stuff to people dA is easier than some random sketchbook thread
It's also good for seeing diffrent art from alot of people all over the world (after weeding through recolored mspaint screenshots)

I still like dA and it's kind of funny

You guys say the same things about them as they say about sheezyart lol

[Simon.Rain]

What I like about DA is they have a lot of good photographers

also the favorite section of people. It makes discovering new artists a lot easier than searching categories...

[Sebastian Agresti]

Quite surpriced so many people hate deviantart.

[Goodbye..fromthevoid]

Wow all the people bashing DA are jerks. Not just jerks, but huge piles of steaming dogshit with minds comparable to that of a monkey. And worst of all they are judgmental!

I mean sure, everything they said about deviant art is true - but that is no excuse to just go on and SAY IT! When someone posts crappy art here, who dares to state the obvious? Only someone who wants to be banned and then gang-raped in their home later that night!

Hurt people to their faces, not their feelings.

Even though I defend Deviant Art I actually hate it more than anything in the world and will never in any way be affiliated with that awful site for people with minds comparable to that of a monkey. BTW check out the link in my signature to a much cooler art site!

[Justin.]

People post "crappy" art here to get BETTER. They post it there for attention or fun.

There IS a difference.

[Xdreamer]

Yes I am and I like it. Since they change their disclaimer I post again my works there but never again in fullsize...

http://xdreamer.deviantart.com/gallery

[Goodbye..fromthevoid]

People post "crappy" art here to get BETTER. They post it there for attention or fun.

There IS a difference.
Even though people don't usually offer hard critiques there, it is open to them. It says critiques and comments welcome, you can choose if you want critical feedback (and most people do). I'm sure people posting on DA would like to get better too. How often do people posting here ever improve anyway...

I don't know...I'm trying to joke to make some dumb points. Why is everything taken so seriously?


Goodbye..fromthevoid is begging to be BANNED so.. Admins please ban him and his IP address.
I am such a menace I shouldn't be allowed to post here. What horrible thing would happen if I continued to write replies? I just don't understand why you need to be so SERIOUS and CONTROLING. I try to have some sort of interaction with the 'art community' and I'm banned over and over. What's the point? I don't know anything about art, I can't learn anything about art; what else am I supposed to talk about?

Just ignore my posts if they offend you so much. Why is that so hard? I could never imagine acting as arrogantly as you (and others) do. You have to like everyone who posts here?

So I am just making this post to get more attention, right? Well this is the only time I will defend myself. You have a rebuttal, fine...I won't bother answering it because I know I can't convince you to accept me even being in your cyber-presence. Also it would 'hijack' the thread, which I know is not approved of.

Just please: lighten up. Even I can make fun of how miserable and pathetic I am. I am not trying to undermine or attack you in any way. Leave me alone.

[ArtEdGradStudent]

Hey, thanks everyone for posting so much about all this. It's been a good read and I think most everyone here has some valid points. I've been trolling through deviant looking for good art, and I've found quite a bit I like. Here's a thread I posted there with some of my favorites. Feel free to look, and tell me what you think, and anyone with an account over there, feel free to add:

http://forum.deviantart.com/devart/thumbs/774089/

[j a k e]

How often do people posting here ever improve anyway... What's the point?



It is obvious you aren't taking good notice of every hard working artist that posts art here. EVERYONE is here to improve.




I don't know anything about art, I can't learn anything about art; what else am I supposed to talk about?



The reason you aren't being helpful, Goodbye...fromhevoid, is because all you do is say things about others and your point of view, without actually contributing to any art aspect of the community. And, you have a very bad sense of humour, and obviously cannot use sarcasm properly. You do realize people can't see your facial expression over the internet?

If your not going to contribute to the art community here by posting art, then I think you're better off just not posting.

[mitsumori]

I have a DA account:

http://hatsukoi.deviantart.com/

I like it well enough.

I didn't join DA to get critique or compliments, I joined to show/share my art and possibly meet new people who do what I do. To help to get my work and name out a little more. Find people who are possibly in the market to buy art. See new work from talented people. And it's been pretty good.

I joined CA to get critique on future work from an older crowd, people more experienced in giving good, clear advice.
I'm here like everyone else for improvement, to take a beating in order to grow as an artist.

One feature that DA has that CA doesn't is a functioning gallery --and if the gallery breaks on DA someone will actually fix it not just leave it to die like what seems to be the case with CA. And the server here also is painfully slow at times :zzz:

Overall...

I would like to enjoy both sites - I see good in both.
I see no reason why it has to be all or nothing.
Why would it have to be that way?

[Mr. Visions]

I'm right with mitsumori, I joined recently because, why hide my work? I post there to inspire people and to let them know what I'm doing with my work. I like reaching lots of people, not secluding myself. I'm a loyal CAer, but I don't think even think some of the Massive Black crew just want you to stay here with your work and that's it. You have to try to establish yourself, show people your work, get out there. Deviantart mightnot be their first suggestion (second, or third), but it doesn't mean it's a horrible place, it's just another avenue. Anyway, my page there ---

mrvisions.deviantart.com

- Visions

[Shadowwing]

Well, I have a DA account but got nothing on there. Guess I am just too plain lazy to post anything.

Seriously, there are some good artists there, and also some good resources. It is also a great way to get in touch with other artists...maybe not good for professional reasons, but for fun, yeah.

I'll post some of my stuff there....someday. :bashful:

[Viridis]

I'm on DA: http://flameraven.deviantart.com

Personally, I don't mind it, but then, I generally stay out of the spam-clogged forums. And while it's true that DA is far less focused on improvement, it's a decent place to display your art and browse.

I tend to hang out on DA more than CA because of (what I see as) the huge bias against non-realistic art here. The majority of artists here seem to be working in comics or video games, which both tend to work with realistic styles, and so most artists here seem to have little or no tolerance for anything outside that-- most notably anime-styled artwork.

Yes, anime-style is hugely popular and very often poorly copied. But that shouldn't discredit it entirely; it can be done well.

I've taken several life drawing classes, and I can draw realistically...but honestly it's no fun for me. I'd much rather do cartoons, and work in a definitely anime-influenced style. But I can't display that here because there's such a huge bias against it.

Just my two cents. :/

[Jason Rainville]

I'm on DA: http://flameraven.deviantart.comI tend to hang out on DA more than CA because of (what I see as) the huge bias against non-realistic art here. The majority of artists here seem to be working in comics or video games, which both tend to work with realistic styles, and so most artists here seem to have little or no tolerance for anything outside that-- most notably anime-styled artwork.

I've seen plenty of well recieved pieces that were anything but realism, including tons of anime inspired work (see - alien or jason chan) and some really nicely done abstract work.

I've never seen anyone here on CA badmouth a piece of art just because it was a certain style. Here's how the formula usually goes:

Anime lover posts anime art/abstract artist posts abstract art. Like many on this site, they have a lot of room for improvement.

Loyal CA critter comes by, points out what's working and what's not, and suggests some work in realism first to build an artistic foundation that will carry over into their work.

Here's where a split occurs: The OP takes the crit, thanks critter for it, and works on art/never posts here again OR says something to the effect of 'well, it's not realism, why would I need to do realistic studies' or 'it's abstract, depth and form and such is secondary as long as I have a brilliant idea behind it.

If the latter occurs, the torches are lit, the pitchforks unsheathed and the CA 'hardcores' shove mister no-realism into the cold. Said person goes to other forums and cries about how stupid and unfair CA is.

[Viridis]

I've never seen anyone here on CA badmouth a piece of art just because it was a certain style. Here's how the formula usually goes:

Anime lover posts anime art/abstract artist posts abstract art. Like many on this site, they have a lot of room for improvement.

Loyal CA critter comes by, points out what's working and what's not, and suggests some work in realism first to build an artistic foundation that will carry over into their work.

Here's where a split occurs: The OP takes the crit, thanks critter for it, and works on art/never posts here again OR says something to the effect of 'well, it's not realism, why would I need to do realistic studies' or 'it's abstract, depth and form and such is secondary as long as I have a brilliant idea behind it.

If the latter occurs, the torches are lit, the pitchforks unsheathed and the CA 'hardcores' shove mister no-realism into the cold. Said person goes to other forums and cries about how stupid and unfair CA is.

You have a point. I've had problems myself (on other forums) where I've offered constructive critique which the artist apparently deems too harsh, and they blow up in my face.

Personally, I just have a hard time meshing with this community, style of art regardless. While critiquers may be more receptive to different styles of art or not, the majority of the site's activities/discussions all seem geared to a specific type of comic/video game art. The biggest example of this I can think of is the Daily Sketch Group... a huge number of the topics deal with sci-fi, mechanical, or darker topics, (or if fantasy IS involved, it's generally of the naked-chick-with-huge-boobs-on-dragon variety. >_>) which frankly, I simply have no interest in, and the lack of anything else makes the community feel unwelcoming to me. Thus, I spend more time on DA.

[carakhan]

I'm on DA ( arenyth.deviantart.com ) and I don't see why everyone can't just get along. I spend more time on DA just because I don't like the layout of this site as much, (I hate that I can't see thumbnails, I need to go through pages and pages of comments in the sketchbooks, etc).

On a side note, why the f has DA been down for like two days? Is anyone else having this problem?

[theperfectjez]

hmm okay, i joined this site simply to reply to this thread, i'll actually browse the site a bit later.. (be4 i start, ignor the poor spelling)

I take it everyone here is either a traditional painter/drawer or digital.. with a few photographers throughout?

I am a 17 year old photographer on deviantart www.theperfectjez.deviantart.com (http://www.theperfectjez.deviantart.com) feel free to look at my gallery (http://www.theperfectjez.deviantart.com/gallery)

first of all some of the imediate posts seemed well.. to be honest.. bloody arrogant, posts like

ew

chaos

I have been a member of DA for a couple of months over a year, and to be 100% honest i have rarely stumbled accross the hordes of anime apparently on the site, and i think perhaps this may be because of:

1) I am a photographer.. or
2) My browsing style is different... i either visit friends who i watch on the site and see their art, look through their favourites or enjoy the art of 'e-famous' artists on the site.. i limit my browsing of the general galleries right down so much that i rarely if ever hit the "browse" button..

Perhaps i am lucky.. i dunno... but seriously if you cant find quality art on that site you really really arnt looking at all...

as for constructive crit, you need to ask for it, not just by putting "advance crit welcome" but actually putting in your artists comment "please bash the living shit out of this, i wanna know what is wrong with it" that way u will get a few of the "the left eye is the wrong shade" or "the composition shouldn't be so centred".. get out there and ask..

but the reality is that DA is a completely different site designed for completely different things, you go on there to connect, and make friends interested in art, if you find a good artist ask them to give helpful crit, they are usually more than happy to..

DA just requires a little effort to get the return.. but seriously stop with the arrogant posts, you're only making yourselves look bad..

Jez

[thistly]

Yep, deviantart is 99% crap. But that one percent of fantastic amazing stuff is still thousands upon thousands of masterpieces, and they're much, much more varied than what we have at CA (eg writers, photographers, fine art style painters, that surreal-pop art style that's so popular right now, graffiti, you name it). Deviantart and CA are different things, CA is much more niche-y, DA is broad, and like the real world, it kinda has an underground, where all the gems are hidden.
I've been on DA for a few years now and there are literally hundreds of artists on my watch-list thingie. Just have to log on and there are literally more than 50 cool and inspiring images per day all conveniently arranged and shiny and new.
If you have a subscription on there (and I think there's are greasemonkey codes for firefox that do it, too) you can even customise the front page if you want, so you never ever have to lay eyes on little thumbnails of sasuke doing naruto :p

Some different and interesting artists on there, some of you might like this stuff, some of you might just wanna stick to your night-elves and space marines
1 (http://senecal.deviantart.com/gallery)
2 (http://kuksi.deviantart.com/gallery/)
3 (http://dariusz.deviantart.com/gallery)
4 (http://alchemism.deviantart.com/gallery)
5 (http://cypherx.deviantart.com/gallery/)
6 (http://hayf.deviantart.com/gallery/)
7 (http://liquidclouds.deviantart.com/gallery/)
8 (http://splinepusher.deviantart.com/gallery/)
9 (http://stabstabstab.deviantart.com/gallery/)
10 (http://zeruch.deviantart.com/gallery/)

[Alice]

I AM ON DEVIANTART AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!!!!!

http://jenzee.deviantart.com

You guys are snotty haters ;)!

I agree on the fact that theres loads of talented and wonderful artists on DA. I have avoided DA since theres so many "trolls" there, impersonating artists and stealing artworks. Well, atleast, every single time theres been someone on cgtalk saying "omg this person is stealing my art" its been on a DA account.
Or, I've just been drunk and I'm missing out on something really good.
:vodkamachine:

[Mirana]

Reguarding the "Don't use your DA account as a portfolio/You can't get a job from DA" arguement: Last year, after an editor saw my print portfolio, he asked specifically if I had a "Deviant Art account" so he could show his bosses. Also, this artist (http://news.deviantart.com/article/25036/) got a job with BONGO comics, as well as contacted about other possible jobs--one of which with Fox Studios as a concept artist on the new Futurama series--within one week of posting a piece of Simpsons fanart that she did for fun.

Any place that allows you to put your art out there (even as an extension of your own artsite) is good. Think of it as a virtural gallery.

However, I agree that DA is worthless for critiques or much socialization among professionals.

[Justin.]

One feature that DA has that CA doesn't is a functioning gallery --and if the gallery breaks on DA someone will actually fix it not just leave it to die like what seems to be the case with CA. And the server here also is painfully slow at times

Buy a t-shirt. Unlike DeviantArt, this site doesn't run on Ads and subscriptions. It runs on us. (It is a NON-PROFIT Organization.) Also, you can upload practically any image you want to your sketchbook... sketch after sketch after sketch after sketch, straight to the server. This archives it for a long time to come (hopefully long past the life of Photobucket or Image shack or what have you.) Don't complain about the gallery if you are doing nothing to support the community!

[amuletts]

I'm on DA. amuletts.deviantart.com , it's a place to post art... not the only place mind you. I do find their stock useful. I haven't been on here very long, so can't really compare the two. I am a bit intimidated by some of the people here and some do seem a bit snobbish.. I just want to practice and improve as an artist, I don't proffess to be great, I'm just having a go because I love creating things.

[KarylGilbertson]

look me up at...

http://gibbz.deviantart.com

[kovah]

I'm on DA and proud of it, perhaps i just like being praised. I come on here to get critique when and if i want it. But DA is just about getting compliments to make myself feel better - occasionally someone will give a good critique and its welcomed.

But it allows me to keep images i like (fave list) without having to take up space on my hard-drive and i can acsess it anywhere i can get the internet. Yes sure there are alot of immature n00bs, but hey i make a sport out of showing them just how immature they are and then laughing when they go home and cry to the mommies.

Though everyone has to start somewhere...

www.kovah.deviantart.com

[Azurelle]

"Who's on Deviant? "

Me :)

It's http://azurelle.deviantart.com

[Azurelle]

"Who's on Deviant? "

Me :)

It's http://azurelle.deviantart.com

[BOON]

i heart DA!!!!

bigboyboon.deviantart.com

[philby]

I'm on DA as well (and after reading this thread I'm wondering if it was the wisest thing to put the link in my sig).

Nevertheless: www.philby.deviantart.com

It's a much less scary place to be than here. I haven't been here long, but it does seem intimidating. I'll be perfectly happy to upload pretty much every piece I do to deviantART, but I honestly can't see me posting art that often here. If everything I did got the full CA-crit treatment, I think I'd have too much to think about to be able to move forward :P

I'm not gonna deny that there is a lot of absolute crap on DA, but there are also a lot of seriously talented people there, and if it's good enough for them it's good enough for me :)

[Justin.]

AS A NOTE:

Sketchbooks are an EXCELLENT way to get very general crits, not hard focused ones for EVERY LITTLE PROBLEM WITH EVERY LITTLE sketch.

Unlike the FF section, the Sketchbook section has NO QUALITY STANDARD. Just POST ART. There is quite literally a 4 year old with a sketchbook on this site. wolfje I believe his name is. You often get both engouraging and motivational posts, ones to make you think, ones to help you learn.. just gotta go for it! I was accepted so warmly here I never really felt intimidated.. just motivated.

[3d3n Cork]

I have a Deviant .___. : http://foxnede.deviantart.com/

Though I migrated over here because the site and community seemed much more professional than dA to me...

Hope this doesn't make me hated, I just got here.

[omega red]

i'm a deviant...http://dnbdjq45.deviantart.com/

eventhough i spend alot of time over there i feel that CA is better...but that's just my opinion...lots of talented ppl on DA and CA...

[mitsumori]

Don't complain about the gallery if you are doing nothing to support the community!

I wasn't "complaining" I was stating a fact - the gallery is broken and no one knows when or if it will ever be fixed. Thanks for the info on the sketchbook section (:

[fionkell]

Yes sure there are alot of immature n00bs, but hey i make a sport out of showing them just how immature they are and then laughing when they go home and cry to the mommies.

...How mature of you.


I have a deviantart page, though I rarely use it. Years ago I would mainly hang around that site for friends, but then I got bored, and there's not such a directly accessible network of advice as there is here at CA. So I only keep the devpage I have to watch the artists who don't post here.

[fae-art]

Im on deviantart, and I love it :D not the place I'd go to for critiques though.

away-with-the-fae.deviantart.com

[kovah]

...How mature of you.


sure i could ignore them. But when they spam your page and fill your mail box with messages like this
"L0llers w4t 4r3 j00s up 2 a4n u draows me a pic4es pls33333" or "j00 dint drtaw th4t it l00ks liek it was d0n3 on a c0mpruter"

It gets a little tiring. and thus until they learn to type properly and actually LEARN the ways or artists. They should be mocked without mercy

[Inkaspies_Studios]

If you can't afford a website... its one of the many gallery sites available. At least you can post work up and send the link. I've already made use of that. True to it being a varitable excess of highschoolers who think they can draw... but there are working pros on there who don't use it to chat with little miss or mr. screw ball. Its like Myspace... self-easyass-promotion for the poor man until you can pay someone to make you a sweet website!

[Nam]

It's fun to socialize there... if anyone will socialize with you, which isn't the case for everyone... I did anime drawings when I first started drawing two years ago (I was on DA when I first started) and those got far more feedback and reception than ANYTHING I would do for the next two years. My stuff got better but I was no longer doing anime so the attention I got went to zero. Almost every picture I posted got 0 comments or just a trickle (always under 100 views, and on every picture I'd check the 'advanced critique' option but rarely ever did someone actually crit me.

DA is a bad site because 'asspatting' is bad for a developing artist if they get into the mindset that they really are a master artist when they aren't. But if everyone is telling you 'omg you're so good', you might start to believe it. It's also bad because if you aren't getting your ego inflated by the asspatters, you aren't getting any attention at all. Traditional art gets the snub on that site as does as genre but anime or 'cute' pictures.

[maxetormer]

Iv got one :D

http://maxetormer.deviantart.com/

Its a nice place to showcase your work, and
I know some pretty good artists that have work over there,
its just a matter to dig deep enough, but believe me there are
real jewels on DA, along side with all the crap ofc :P

Theres plenty of good stuff,

http://sonny123.deviantart.com/

http://jasongoad.deviantart.com/

http://thepunisherone.deviantart.com/

http://subeo.deviantart.com/

http://kolaboy.deviantart.com/

http://gunnmgally.deviantart.com/

http://halitosis.deviantart.com/

http://darwinjehova.deviantart.com/

http://invent-a-shell.deviantart.com/

http://sericat.deviantart.com/

http://zurdom.deviantart.com/

http://graysapphire.deviantart.com/

Just to name a very few,

I love CA.org but imo DA
its earned the right to exist.

[light]

Yea, I definitely wouldn't send your DA page off as your portfolio site. Forget amateur anime, let's talk about "inflation art" and bestiality. This is the front page today: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44156425/
How did more people not look at this? This is the flawless summary of everything that is negative about deviantart:

Weird human/animal thing [x]
Sexual position [x]
Tons of praise [x]
Back and forth circle-jerking in comments [x]
Phrases such as "Glomps him", "horsee", "=^.^=" [x]
At the very bottom says "Critique not desired" [x]

There is a couple cool artists on deviant art, but not that I would ever know because browsing the forum/sifting through pages upon pages of furries and bad portraits and huge emo eyes makes me want to kill small furry animals.

[HuBBaTheMan]

I'm on DA, but I'm seriously considering leaving. I found CA a few weeks ago, and it's exactly what I've been looking for, so I see no point in staying on DA.

I'm with Masquerade here. I started learning how to paint and draw and i knew a friend who was at deviant art so i thought why not join up and get some feedback. Well, the only feedback iv'e gotten so far on whatever ive put up was from that friend so not exactly what i expected. If anyone wants to see its http://hubbatheman.deviantart.com.

And i'm working on a little piece now that fits into the concept art genre (as most of mine so far has been portraits and exercises =) which i will harass you people with under work in progress :D

But im pretty done with deviant art i think. I suspect most of the new art is being simply lost in the static. There are an insane ammount of material being uploaded every minute there so if you post a piece and go back 5 min later, chances are its off the "new stuff" and on page 8 or something.

[Nepheris]

I just use DA as my online gallery, I don't really look at the comments that much because they're basically all 'good job'.

It's basically my virtual fridge where I stick my works on with colourful magnets ;) Not having your own webspace kinda sucks, and at least there they are displayed together.

[kovah]

How did more people not look at this? This is the flawless summary of everything that is negative about deviantart:

Weird human/animal thing [x]
Sexual position [x]
Tons of praise [x]
Back and forth circle-jerking in comments [x]
Phrases such as "Glomps him", "horsee", "=^.^=" [x]
At the very bottom says "Critique not desired" [x]

There is a couple cool artists on deviant art, but not that I would ever know because browsing the forum/sifting through pages upon pages of furries and bad portraits and huge emo eyes makes me want to kill small furry animals.

*sigh*
I could come up with 6 things similar to those about abstract art which if you look deviantart is also full of - i detest that kind of art. So in a sense i am somewhat hypocritical in this post.

I would prefer that picture of an 'anthro horse' over a picture of a paint splatter that represents the worlds bloodshed. Every time. No contest.

Why shouldn't it get praise? For being well drawn well coloured and basically what the commisioner of the piece wanted, not what the artist would nessecerly choose to draw, but needs to to make money. The only thing you dont like is the subject matter. Plus there is a SEARCH feature on deviantart so you shouldn't have to browse through pages of what you dont want to see.

[Hunger]

Nope, I don't have a DA account. But it is indeed a nice art site. I don't see anything negative about it. It's just that DA has flaws, but so does CA.

[Malla]

I have an account there. http://malla13.deviantart.com/
It took me a little over a year to get up the courage to join this site, because even though I'm still learning and making huge mistakes I felt that I had to be better to be accepted here. This is an awesome site but it's more than a little intimidating. Plus, I had to get rid of that anime style and prove I could do something else first. XD

I'll keep my DA account because I've had it for a while now, and I'm comfortable with the site. But that's not the only place I post my art, and it's certainly not the only place I'll go to for critiques (it would honestly be nice to get a few more there sometimes). There's nothing wrong with it, though. It's just geared toward different people.

[timothychristopher]

I AM ON DEVIANTART AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!!!!!

http://jenzee.deviantart.com

You guys are snotty haters ;)!


word!!

the forums here are more engaging tho. but DA it doesn't hurt.

[evilkuu]

I'm the antichrist of deviant art. all the canie artists hate me and I hate a lot of them
Kuwaizair


How did more people not look at this? This is the flawless summary of everything that is negative about deviantart:

Weird human/animal thing [x]
Sexual position [x]
Tons of praise [x]
Back and forth circle-jerking in comments [x]
Phrases such as "Glomps him", "horsee", "=^.^=" [x]
At the very bottom says "Critique not desired" [x]

There is a couple cool artists on deviant art, but not that I would ever know because browsing the forum/sifting through pages upon pages of furries and bad portraits and huge emo eyes makes me want to kill small furry animals.

yeh tel them that and you get slanderd horrbly. those people need to be loved, called smexy, be your wife/bedwarmer, get $50 for one of those emo anime furries. Get 5 fanclubs and 60 asskissers.
I want that life. ah how grand. horsee isn't the worst of it all, its calling wolves and dogs 'woofers".

[Anid Maro]

Hmm... I've got a DeviantArt account myself.

However, lately I've found that I couldn't give a rats ass about DA. I'm too wrapped up in Thunder Domes (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89573&page=2) and my Sketchbook (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1220164) to even remember that I have a DA account, let alone care.

Besides, DA has provided me with exactly zero comments (not even an ass-pat!) on my artworks while CA has provided me with numerous invaluble critiques.

So, as far as I'm concerned...

:uzi: :ad: :aa:

:yayca:

[thedarkcloak]

ROFL.

There are different type of art communities. CA is focused on learning and improving. DA is focused on sharing and networking. Just because one is plagued with armatures and idiots, it doesn't necessarily mean it's worthless. I've made a few good friends there who are both serious artist and great person.

CA is a classroom, DA is a bar. No need to act all snobbish and pretend you never want to get drunk and dirty once in awhile. ;)

This one pretty much wraps it up for me.

Before letting go and joining CA (I was kinda intimidated to join CA for a looooong time, especially after some experiences at Epilogue). But now, I'm really hooked on CA, and am unclogging my constipated drawing hands. I want to shoot for doodling or drawing something daily like I used to.

Plus, DA is good for blogisms, and keeping in touch with various friends & colleagues I've met before and since... plus a bonus is I actually met my other half through DA, so I can honestly say that she's the best thing that I ever got out of being at DA. Now, I like to use DA as amusement, and to amuse folks who appreciate my works once in a while. Not so much for crits, I have given up on hoping for good crits on DA. Good for networking, crap for some serious nitty gritty artistic growing.

All in all, I think it's easier to access & get alot more intellectually here at CA, than it is to shuffle through all the 'inflated art', 'beastiality', 'bishounen', 'slash', 'harry potter makes out with snape', 'oh-look-cute-manga', and varied art you have to wade waist deep in at DA.

I mean... in an hour of reading and excersizing stuff I see in these forums, I get alot more out of than I do in a WEEK at DA.

DA = FUN (s**ts n giggles as they say), CA = I wanna challenge and learn, from myself as well as others.

2 cents.

[Jazz]

I have a DA account, and I certainly don't mind it!

http://j-riddler.deviantart.com/

Strangely enough, I found ConceptArt because I was looking at info about an artist on DeviantArt, and it showed a post from that artist on here. When I saw the critiques, I was totally elated. The last time I saw crits so thorough and plentiful was on a message board that's since been torn down (in around 2003/2004). That's mainly why I joined here. :)

I'll always have a place for DA though. People seem to be watching for stuff from me, and many of my friends on there chit-chat. Of course, there's always a chance I'll find a piece of art that makes me pur (anime included).

Still, CA is an answer to my artistic frustrations, so I'm going to stick around as much as I can and get some good learning in. ^_^

[light]

*sigh*
I could come up with 6 things similar to those about abstract art which if you look deviantart is also full of - i detest that kind of art. So in a sense i am somewhat hypocritical in this post.

I would prefer that picture of an 'anthro horse' over a picture of a paint splatter that represents the worlds bloodshed. Every time. No contest.

Why shouldn't it get praise? For being well drawn well coloured and basically what the commisioner of the piece wanted, not what the artist would nessecerly choose to draw, but needs to to make money. The only thing you dont like is the subject matter. Plus there is a SEARCH feature on deviantart so you shouldn't have to browse through pages of what you dont want to see.
I never said I liked abstract art, you're just ranting randomly. "Well coloured" is kind of a strong term for this drawing. Besides, what I was mostly talking about is the horrendous community, not the picture itself so don't just pull out your random complaining.

[kovah]

I never said I liked abstract art, you're just ranting randomly. "Well coloured" is kind of a strong term for this drawing. Besides, what I was mostly talking about is the horrendous community, not the picture itself so don't just pull out your random complaining.

i never said you liked abstract art. I was merely pointing out that everyone has their likes and dislikes. You are judging the deviantart community to be "horrendous" because alot of people that like certain types of art such as the picture you featured, that you don't. If you had commented on the community as a whole without picking on a picture drawn by someone that i consider to be an acomplished artist just because of one of her pictures content. I wouldn't have said anything.

[light]

what I was mostly talking about is the horrendous community, not the picture itself
:dad:

[kovah]

:dad:

You said that in your second post in response to mine, if you had said it in your first post i wouldn't have commented on it...

[FLenG]

http://fleng.deviantart.com , kinda active there since i post every little crap i do.

[Tsumami]

I have a DA account, but at the moment... it's chuck-full of random things that range from anime-style, to photography, to...whatever fine arts stuff I did. (Basically, I LIKE trying out new things a lot, which is what it's suppose to show)
Plus, haven't really updated much (except for the journals) since I'm too busy doing a lot of art-college homework to think about putting anything up. http://tsumami.deviantart.com

Admittingly, my Gallery is pretty crappy and the most saddest thing is, I only get attention is if anime or photography is there. Only a FEW moments, will someone give pointers.
That place.... not the best to ask for critiques or anything.
I'm almost a little sick of being there, because I can't stand much of the 'sugar-coating,' but I'm waiting until my Subscription there is done.

[Exocentric]

DA was kind of my start on the internet, and it does have some perks. It exposes you to some talented artists, but only a miniscule amount compared to the mass of no skill anime artists. CA just manages to maintain a very serious atmosphere. Staying forum-based helps with that though. DA is a community thing though. So to accuse it of being too myspacey is kinda absurd. For what they're trying to achieve, nothing could work better.
www.sketcheth.deviantart.com

[ArtEdGradStudent]

So here's an update. I've gone through and found some incredible work on deviant, and I put it all in a thread there. Here's the link for anyone who wants to see some great art! I believe some of it was done by people here in this thread

too bad none of it's mine =(

Ah well, I need to do more painting...

http://forum.deviantart.com/devart/thumbs/819248/

[Konstruktion]

I have, link in my sig....

[Marsh]

The only thing I REALLY use Devart for is netoworking and keeping contact with people I don't get to see on a regular basis. I try, on occasion to give some helpful critique but usually get flamed or called an ass hole. Devart has some redeeming qualities if you can wade through all the crap and bullshit that most of its members spout. That being said there are exceptions, two of them being
adamwithers.deviantart.com

and

comfortlove.deviantart.com

Coincidentally these two happen to be my private art teachers and closest friends.

Devart isn't worth the time of day when compared to Caorg though.

[elixia_dragmire]

Okay <hold hand> Im a deviant artist. I found that site before this one (only been here a couple of days, i like the gallery option.
In tern of criquies, i have none wel hardly ever. Nice social network and yes 95% of if is fanart drawn in lined paper which drives most of ther artist i know on there nuts.
As for the portfolio option, they are building one i heard, subscriber only. But to me it looks too plain. So i'm building my own flash site, which a portfolio side (clean and simple) and maybe a playground some where with a bit more fun, interactive stuff.
But I can understand the general dissapproval of DA.

[beachbead]

I have a DA gallery,but the more artwork I put up it seems no one cares there,I always try to help others there and try to impove on my art,the only way I get someone to tell me what I'm doing wrong is places like this.

http://beachbead.deviantart.com/

[marcelotk]

I have a deviant art account too and I like it. Not only for keeping track of great artists but to know new ones too.

http://marcelotk.deviantart.com

[Maidith]

I'm there too: http://maidith.deviantart.com
Deviantart is a great place to look at some very exceptional work, one just has to figure out how to find it :) Usually I browse other peoples' favorites, and by now I'm watching about 140 people just for their great work.
The DA forums aren't that great, the same questions and debates being raised again and again, among some just plain stupid threads.

[Maestro Andres]

Wow, I never knew there was this type of look towards DA, which is funny because since I started here, I have my DA account in my signature (http://maestro77.deviantart.com):P
I remember that some years ago, deviantart was the best there was, until I stumble upon CA. I haven't update my gallery that much after I found CA. Without repeating too much what has being said, I agree that CA is a better place to grow as an artist while DA is more for getting some praise.
Nevertheless, I like DA a lot for the variety of art there is on the place. From the photography to the 3d models and rendering, which some are awesome. Also, it is very easy to browse around looking at a variety of art because of the thumbnails. It is just fun if you are not very critical at looking at very high quality art, just can get entertained. I would normally look at the daily deviations since most of the time, all of them are really high quality art. Also I like the place because of the free resources such as the stock photography and brushes you can find.
One of the greatest work I have seen is this one (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35052477/?qo=10&q=by%3Aomen2501&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps), and it the description of it makes it look better. This is guy is such a great artist, that enjoy his other works.

[Konstruktion]

Hm, anybody else noticed the "ConceptArt.org is Proud to be a part of the DeviantART Network" text in the banner at the top?

[Maestro Andres]

Yeah, just recently. What is that about?

[chaosrocks]

check the date sillies

[rpace]

I never have the available time to finish my website, so I used the stopgap of Epilogue for a long time. Recently, their server and myriad other problems have been so overwhelming that I decided to store my stuff at DA. Eplilogue has its own problems beyond the technical, but it does keep the minimum quality higher which gives it a little more credibility as a temp site.

DA's fine for what it is. I do like the bar analogy made earlier.

Will I still use it when I finally do finish my website? Probably, but more as a way to keep track of the artists' whose works I like and admire.

I have found a large number of highly talented illustrators, sculptors and photographers in amongst the dross and this is a pretty simple and effective to be current with their work.

~Richard

[Darasen]

There is some decent art on deviant, finding it is another matter entirely. There does seem to be a HUGE amount of poorly drawn "magna". (Isn't that redundant?)
For me personally DA serves no purpose. If some one links to great art, fantastic I'll take a look. I have no inclination nor time to go digging through pages of junk to find it. Social networking, frankly i do not care about. The same reason MySpace is useless to me. Gallery, I have web space elsewhere. Actually web space is cheap and in places free.

If DA inspires people to draw than thats a good thing, especially for the kids. For a professional DA s not so good. To me it is one of those things in how you present yourself. If you want people to view or discover your art work as a professional then look like a pro.

[zensui]

I actually like both sites, they've some stuff to work on though (on CA it's mainly the galleries).

my deviantART account: http://zensui.deviantart.com

[Dile_]

I must be missing something... Cause I'm been here for a year, using ca in average at least every other day ( I'm addicted ) And I still haven't either found or missed any galleries... I guess its hard for you users from DA that is used to it.. but really, start a sketchbook instead, easier to get critique on the overall progress! =)

[JonBeinart]

I don't understand why people take these web communities so seriously. I just use them all to promote my art. I have a DeviantArt Account and a Myspace page. Sure, a lot of amateurs and dick heads congest these popular online communities, but isn't that a reflection of the real world. I say use them all to get your work out there. Here's my DA Account: http://jonbeinart.deviantart.com/

[Leukeh]

My DA account: http://leukeh.deviantart.com

Stuff on there ranges from photography to literature to photomanips to drawings to figurine paintings...

[kafine]

http://kafine.deviantart.com This contains pretty much everything.

[Analoxe]

I can understand people who use deviantart solely for promotional purposes. It's another place to get your artwork out for people to see it and spread the word. I have an account, but I don't have anything posted on mine...because although there are some great artists on there, the site does have a certain stigma to it now- a la elfwood. While Its a simple and easy place to post your stuff, you should still be conscious that having your own website shows that you take more care into how you present your work and you don't blend in with the masses.

There are certainly some great artists on there, but the good is outweighed by the bad. And because of that, a lot of people also view deviant as a good place to "borrow artwork" without a sense of guilt. It's like a giant free for all. The other day when I was looking at blog layouts, I saw someone that had made a layout that had a really cute drawing at the top of it. When someone asked if they had drew it themselves, they casually replied that they found it on someones deviantart gallery. Only one person pointed out that they ought to credit the person they stole it from, but that person was ignored and nobody else cared and continued to say how cute it was and compliment them. Stealing can occur from anywhere, but I think people are drawn to deviant especially because the stuff there is viewed as "free for the taking." Like some sort of giant database of free clipart, whether its really good or not so great.
*steps off soapbox*

[Momus]

makeminemomus.deviantart.com

I don't have anything up yet. I registered months ago and I'm still getting myself acquainted with the site and its artists. Without bashing the place too much, I've found that:

• There is a lot of garbage (sickening fetishistic shit and that. YOU KNOW WHAT I FUCKING MEAN (http://search.deviantart.com/?section=browse&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5&q=vore)) to wade through before you get to something interesting.
• Not everyone takes harsh criticism the wrong way. But when they do, ho-ho!
• Every neutered feature in the free account type is designed to bully you into a subscription. For this, the admins deserve all of our spite. Funnel it to them.

Hate deviantART. Love the deviants (even if their furries).

[ArtEdGradStudent]

Westend girl, you're absolutely right, but I will say as a teacher, it makes it easy for me to find great examples for illustrating art concepts. I plan to print out several color copies of works, just for educational purposes, and I will credit the artists, as much as possible (not all have real names, etc). hold on, I'll try and find a link to some great art I found there...

[monobobo]

I've been on DA for ages, I like it because it can handle mass uploads of my stuff, and it's saved my neck a couple of times with computer crashes and backup theft. Also it's easy to hunt down works from artists I've seen in other places on the internet. But everybody is right, the crap people on DA overrun the whole thing, like rodents.

I'm monobobo there too.