Have you an LCD? [Archive]

Lord Dubu

July 13th, 2006, 09:15 AM

Art persons! Let me share with you my struggle.

I have a nice Dell XPS laptop with what was once a beautiful LCD screen. But I noticed that certain near-white, tans and light pinks all register as white on the screen.

Example: If I look at this image (http://www.studiozion.com/images/062906_baek_armor%20copy.jpeg) on ANY other monitor there is a tan color around and behind the central figure and the demonic smiley face. On my LCD it all looks like 255-255-255 white.

Has anyone else had issues with this? It's most likely not a video card issue as when I pipe my output into a stand-alone monitor the colors register fine. Dell is on thier way to my house to replace my second LCD screen and my GeForce card as well.

dfacto

July 13th, 2006, 10:08 AM

Have you tried messing with the screen's settings? The same things happens when I boost my screen's contrast too high.

Could try messing with adobe gamma as well.

Lord Dubu

July 13th, 2006, 10:14 AM

I tried messing with contrast and gamma already. Thanks though.

Tetsuo

July 13th, 2006, 10:33 AM

try this. Right click, properties, display, advanced, color properties (or something thereof) and see if there is a color profile being used there. If it is just write down which one it is and delete it. Now see if it displays the colors better. If not I would suggest not getting a dell again ;) LCDs have a tendancy to not display certain colors correctly because they operate so much differently than crts :| but i still have sex with mine every night and so do my eyes.

Shamagim

July 13th, 2006, 10:38 AM

I see it, very light though, more notciable in the demon smilei.

LCD´s, specially laptop LCD´s, sometimes wont´t show all the colors, that´s why there´s market for better and bigger screens.

If messing up with thr Gamma won´t fix it, or won´t give you a good enough contrast, maybe is time to save for another screen, I think most laptops alow you to use a dual screen function :). ( screens are not thqat expensive ;))

Lord Dubu

July 13th, 2006, 11:03 AM

Thanks guys. I'll let you know how it goes after the tech delivers the newer parts today.

Dan_Scott

July 13th, 2006, 11:51 AM

I've noticed that exact issue on cheap LCD monitors and even somewhat on Apple Cinema Displays. It's probably the biggest thing holding me back from getting an LCD right now.

Oddo

July 13th, 2006, 01:23 PM

Yes I have that problem too.

Well, I have yet to see an LCD monitor that has the color fidelity of a CRT.. or anywhere close to a CRT for that matter. Cheap or not cheap.

They are easier on the eyes though.

Lord Dubu

July 13th, 2006, 01:46 PM

Well the new screen has trouble displaying the tan color... thanks for all your input. I'll probably see if I can't find a site offering information on callibrating for painting on an LCD screen. Otherwise I'll just have to plug into a CRTto color correct when doing the finishing touches on my paintings.

Shamagim

July 13th, 2006, 01:53 PM

I´m using an LCD right now, I can confidently say that I can see the lightest and darkest colors just fine, but it might be the calibration software I´m using ( The LCD is a SyncMaster 740 with a digital cord intead of analog.....maybe that helps)

The softwar is called "Natural Color", is quite nice, or at least better than Adobe Gamma.

Oddo

July 13th, 2006, 02:35 PM

Well this has been a recurring discussion over many art forums 3d and 2d :).

Usually the conclusion was that the LCD's anthough not extremely color accurate are good because they go easy on the eyes.
For accuracy that competes with an CRT, the LCD's reccomended had a price tag of about 3000 USD and were 21 or 24 inch.

LCD's are good to have though... Even though my trusty SyncMaster 957 DF CRT is still performing admirably, a secondary (average... not the cheapest) LCD for linework, fast colors browsing and email might be a wise choice... but still will be using the crt when it comes to color precision.

Lord Dubu

July 15th, 2006, 12:23 AM

Well after my third LCD I played around with some tips from a callibration site... I think that's the right way to go...

Sham, where'd you get Natural Color?

p.s. how in the hell do people change thier thread titles... I'd like to mark this to one to note the issue is resolved.

Magic Man

July 15th, 2006, 01:04 AM

I have my LCD monitor calibrated with one of the best color calibration tools around and if you're seeing the off-white color around the figure as white, you have got some major issues if it isn't to do with the monitor settings.

Seer

July 25th, 2006, 09:23 AM

Would you mind posting the name (and/or links to) of the calibration tools that work so well for you Lord Dubu/Magic Man?

I'm also curious to what LCD you have Magic Man. :)

Lord Dubu

July 25th, 2006, 03:05 PM

Would you mind posting the name (and/or links to) of the calibration tools that work so well for you Lord Dubu/Magic Man?

I'm also curious to what LCD you have Magic Man. :)

I used the contrast and gamma settings on my video card's proprietary interface. I am still looking for a callibration tool.

sleep

July 25th, 2006, 03:07 PM

i have a dell lcd and experience exactly the same thing. doesn't bother me too much, i just paint everything a touch darker because i know that this monitor displays things a bit bright

Fipse

July 26th, 2006, 04:47 AM

Mhm, I changed some montht ago from my Barco CRT to an Eizo CG21 LCD with a simple Gretag EyeOne Calibrator. Worked well for me and the pixelpushing jobs I do.

But I don´t know if you want to spend 2200 Euro for the job ... in this classes even the expensive calibratable LCD´s make sense (My old Barco costed at the time 3500 Euro).

Fipse

Dile_

July 26th, 2006, 06:35 AM