Lung's Chazzwazzers: [+17] return of the crud / feb 24

[steak-tron]

Lung, iv'e been a fan for a long time, that pic of the flight helmet is killa. I was just about to draw from that same picture but i got lazy/slave to finals. oh well Carpe Diem or some shit. you the masta, can't believe your 18.
-steak

[The Bear]

Fuckin' BRILLIANT work man! You've inspired me to draw more... :D

[thomasaurus]

beautiful ref drawing lungbat

[Famboozled]

Once again you cease to amaze people, thx lung bug, you rock!

[rubygenesis]

ooo nice line of action in the guy standing on one leg.
that render is icing on my cake, Yum =) *eats cake*

[Hexal]

Indeed amazing.
And national geographic...I thought i was the only one...only mine dont look as good as yours....:eek:

[Zebz]

Inspirtion is all freakin' over me. Dude it's been like forever since you last post. Make it happen! It'd be great to see where you're at now and what you're drawing. Keep it up. I guess one of the big keys to drawing greatness is excessive copying of photos and stuff. LoL I'm gonna get at it. Thanks for the lift.

Ryan

[Angela]

Who's the man? You are... My friend LadyLioness gave me the link to your daily sketch book.. and it totally amazed me.. If you could be so kind.. could you tell me how you sketch out your figures? Thanks again for your time.. and keep up the wonderful job.

-Angela

:chug:

[vancekovacs]

Lung-
Not that you haven't heard it already, and not that you lack encouragment, but great pages. You've got a great hand for drawing and a solid eye. Your intuitive sense for design and layout is great. And a good range of emotion as well. You seem to do whatever catches your fancy. A study of a car, a cartoon, a airforce helmet, anatomy studies... They're a delight to look at.

Thank you for posting.

Vance

[Aidan]

Hehe, yes. Tell us how to sketch. ;)

I think what mr. Kovavs mentioned has been said too sparse: "Your intuitive sense for design and layout is great."
Totally agree. The layout of your sketchbook-pages rawks.

And yes, im feeling pretty dumb to reply to each of your posts but i just can't resist.

[DaemonMagus]

I saw your self portrait and in it you had red lines which you said was a blind contour. I'm not exactly sure what that is; is it drawing without looking at the paper?

[TheDirtSyndicate]

haha, you can tell who constantly watches this thread for updates.

good stuff lungbug.

[Lung_bug]

davi: :chug:

quantas: yeh, i'm a bitch

josef, cocofuppa: thanks

steak-tron: i'd like to see your take on that helmet pic (it's a great pic to practice matierials). and i'm 17

the bear: draw draw draw :)

jnor, famboozled: thanks peeps

ruby: i actually made a big chocholate cake this saturday :D

hexal: lots of people draw from NGE i think. at least i remember seeing it in the 'good stuff to ref from' lists

zebzfree: "guess one of the big keys to drawing greatness is excessive copying of photos and stuff". if you can go outside and draw, do that. that's the shit

angela: i'll make a few progress shots this weekend, bit tight on time right now. thanks for the nice words

vance: ! had to rub my eyes :) thanks for checking out, and i'm glad you like it. most of the design and layout sense i owe to jeff jones (saw some of his pages and quotes when i was starting out, kinda grew on me). cheers
p.s. i owe a lot of my sketching knowledge to you and justin (sweet), so i'd like thank you for posting too :)

aidan: here's a quick tutorial:
1) provide yourself with a semi-large sheet of paper, white or brown, preferably unlined, and a pencil suiting your personal taste (i'd personally go with a mechanical pencil, if i do gestural, scribbly stuff, or a 7B, if i'm working out the values and big shapes)
2) find a subject of interest. any.
3) if you can, sit/stand/lie/levitate nearby and draw it
3b) if you can't, take a photo of it and draw from it. this is not as good because you won't improve your 3D to 2D conversion skills (that is, transferring the stuff you see to a 2D picture). try not just copying, but constructing when drawing from photos
4) spend as much time as you deem appropriate. some subjects will look stiff if too much time is spent on them, so try to find a nice balance. if you don't get the essence of the subject in the first 5-10, you should probably start over. and
don't get carried away when rendering!
5) scan the image and post in your daily sketchbook thread
6) back to 1) with received crits and comments in mind.
:)

daemonmagus: yeah, no looking

complete: :chug:

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first time using acrylics...

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/acryl01.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/det01.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/det02.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/mats.jpg
from top to bottom:
- acrylic titanium white
- #6 bristle something (made in china)
- white gel pen
- faber castell 7b pencil
- faber castell black pencil (matte)
- white pencil + last piece of an eraser in the room




school sucks.

[The Bear]

I like it! Great combination of different media. :)

[Angela]

Thanks lung bug! really appreciate it! and... ya im sure EVERYONE hates school.. nice stuff goin on with your acyrlic! keep it up! :chug:

[chudzta]

insano.

looking a lil older there. maybe its just the bold sureness of it. Anywho best regards and keep rocking. - piece - chudds

[Carnifex]

you always manage to amaze me,aswell as amuse me.and you practically live next door.:D
may i ask if you had any kind of education(art school) or something?did you use an anatomy book in the beginning?
thank you in advance.:)

[garg]

You... Rule

[Hexal]

Originally posted by Lung_bug
hexal: lots of people draw from NGE i think. at least i remember seeing it in the 'good stuff to ref from' lists



I know, i know, i was "trying" to be sarcastic, i guess i failed :o.

Exellecent acrylic portrait. :chug:

[amphex]

Yay lungbug ;d
Thats pretty damn nice for your first time with acrylics...how long did that take you?

keep rockin :D

[obid619]

damn...only 17...I'M 17....have you been drawing for a long time? i bet so. Have you gone to any drawing schools? has the world gone bonkers? ...how do you do it?

[obid619]

and your also THE MOST VIEWED IN ALL OF THREADS. gj buddy :chug:

[xia]

Damn! Lung! You are the Prodigy Child, dude!

[Anto]

beautiful work my man
the national geographic ref is fuckin sweet

[Famboozled]

wonderful work, you are so incrediblely talented. wonderful work dude, just absolutely wonderful.

like me and my fellow teenagers, we at the age of 17 aspire to be someone just like you, you are incredible!

[Lung_bug]

the bear: i like it a lot too. just gotta find some thicker paper. atm i'm working on cardboard mostly

angela: thanks :chug:

chudzta: older? dunno. this one is the closest one of all the sp's i did so far

carnifex: no education, and i started with a hogarth book (bad bad bad), but i learned (anatomy) mostly from loomis books and alan tew's stuff (http://www.beeba.net)

hexal: oh :) tnx

amphex: 30-ish minutes i think

obid619: 2-3 years now... how do i do it? i sacrifice a goat every morning. but don't tell anyone. and yeah... 30000 views- scary :eek:

xia: now that's stretching it :)

anto: thanks

famboozled: be like me, then keep learning until you can kick my ass, then keep learning...

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today's output; mostly bits of everything, but nothing serious

to start, some life drawing stuff
the truck here i did while standing so i had to be quick (that's an interesting way to keep the sketch rough and not overdone), and that's why the lines are so shakey. the lower half are details from the garbage truck (to be used in techy backgrounds and stuff)
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/truck.jpg

this one didn't turn out that good, but here goes
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/acryl02.jpg
(photo ref)

then i did some roughs for a short comic (yeh they are tiny)
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/cabroughs.gif

followed, in the loose spirit, by a weird helmet guy inspired by a pigeon head. if you stare at it for a while, it might be slightly visible. also messed with it in PS a bit. didn't finish
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/helmutguy_scan.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/helmutguy_tmp.jpg

then some anatomy stuff while chatting with a friend
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/anastuf.gif

did a sculpture while he was around too, but this digicam sucks so here's the best i could get outta it (it's not dry yet either)
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sc01.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sc04.jpg

and finally, a creature from my dream few nights back (did the pencils few days back too, color today)
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pieface01.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pieface02.jpg
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pieface03.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pieface04.jpg
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pieface05.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/pieface06.jpg

no school until jan 12 huzzah :)
cheers

[Carnifex]

O M F G !
you own everyone on this forum!i'm one year older than you,but my work isn't even half as good as that.most of all not digital.GEEESUS H.CHRIST!

[MrMojo]

Woah. Love your stuff, especially the anatomy stuff. Is that in pen?

[S51]

I spent about 5 minutes just staring blankly at the last one. Seriously, your work is amazing. And if these are just your sketches...

[Josef K.]

awesome update once again :D

love it
!u killer!

[The Bear]

Great stuff once again. :D:D:D

[Angela]

great stuff again! keep it comin:chug:

[Cocofuppa]

Dude Dude Dude, that creature from ur dreams is sweet. I just love the thin lines around the creature sharpenin the whole piece up :D Its just so Crispy LOL

[Lung_bug]

hey thanks all, glad you liked them
mrmojo: the anatomy stuff was pencil, the scanner darkened it a bit

did some comic stuff today (two pages) but i'd rather post them all together, so here's some ref nudes i did while chatting. sorry for the crudeness, they were done larger and on a cheaper paper than usual. used a blunt 4b derwent and smudged with my finger
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/fbscan03.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/fbscan02.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/fbscan04.jpg

more stuff next time

p.s. LEON :D
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sp_241203.jpg
(straight ink with a fat bristle brush + white gel pen = kickass media... also a tribute to one of my fav artists, Danijel Zezelj)

if i'm not back by then, merry xmas!
:nana: :nana: :nana

[garg]

wow.. goodness..

amazing work again.. did you use reference?

[I.was.ink]

These are terrific, I love the nude studies. Do you use refs for those?

[The Bear]

Originally posted by Lung_bug
more stuff next time

When is next time?!?!?!
:p

[Jeff Gran]

Lung Bug you're hella cool and your stuff rocks. Keep it up.
:chug:
:beer:

[Lung_bug]

"so here's some ref nudes i did"... duh

just got up (noon) and i'm about to start drawing, so i'd say next time would be... tonight :)

[Nadim]

SHOW MERCY :eek::eek::eek:



Don't try to say you're sorry - Don't say he drew his gun

[fukifino]

You know what I really can't wait for? I can't wait to see your shit in print. I want Lung Bug illustrated RPGs, and Lung Bug art books and Lung Bug video games.

Seriously man, I want the things that I love to be adorned with your work.

And there's no doubt that it will be. It's just the waiting that's killing me!

Til then I'll live with your sketches. :D

[pixelherder]

Fantastic stuff, obviously - and depending on your point of view incredibly inspiring for someone so young, or for those of us pushing 30 (i.e me), absolutely terrifying!

keep it up

[amphex]

That self portrait KICKS ASS.
lol, i cant wait for teh next update:D

[Aidan]

http://www.spiritualists.org/images/celeb_lennon.jpg

W0rd.

[Diego]

kick ass portrait lung.
your ref nudes also are awesome....you inspire me a lot.
keep it up man.

-Diego

[obid619]

YOU...ROCK ;)

[el coro]

okay okay, my turn to get in on all the knob slobbin..lung, i've been following your progress on this forum for almost two years now, and i just gotta give you some serious praise. you are like an art jesus dude. your passion and observational skills are far far beyond your age, and it makes me fear for my job when i look through your thread. keep doing what you're doing...i'll be watching for sure.you da man-c36

[xia]

Holy Lung! I insist...
You are the "PRODIGY CHILD". Great to have you around.
You are already great and you keep getting better and better, very inspiring.
:chug:

[Lung_bug]

hey hey, thanks peeps

fukifino: man that made me feel all warm and fuzzy :) yeh, i'm preparing stuff to send around to people like dungeon mag and such, so who knows...

aidan: plain scary.

el coro: knob slobbin, lol. two years already? i didn't do as much as i could though, so one of the new years resolutions was to hit the drawing desk much harder. hearing stuff like this from you makes me think i'm on the right path

xia: :chug:

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2004. yay

random mishmash... sleeping rythm is messy so it kinda reflects. some older stuffs first

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sp_251203.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sp_261203_evilennon.jpg
a pilot ink sp and a digital angry mediocre one

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/bird.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/book18_08c.jpg
trying out some colored pencils and skintones over an old sketch

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/window01.jpg
a try to do a digital life painting. actually i'm quite happy to have captured even this

post-new year stuff:
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/0101_robot_5am.jpg
a robot i did so i wouldn't fall asleep. finished around 5am, so yes, it has numerous errors and whatnot. it was fun working with markers, need to do it more often

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/Untitled-2.jpg
unfinished skintone study... some 10-15 minutes

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/cortohed.JPG
corto maltese fanart... little something i started after watching the movie (corto maltese: la cour secrete des arcanes). this is fullsize in its blurry glory

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/corto_wip2.jpg
expanding the previous one. will probably go on and add a background, but later

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/demo/007.jpg
a quick demo i did on how i sketch and paint digitally
here's the folder with the images in full size (30 steps)- http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/demo/
did it around 5am too so don't be too harsh. an animated gif-

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/demo/anionesec.gif

there's some more around i think but i didn't scan

cheers, and seeya soon

[xia]

Holy Lung!!! ....I salut you (hat off)
The Gif demo is awesome!!!
And I particularly love the unfinished skintone study/color sketch, great extreme lighting.
:chug:

Happy New Year to you!

[obid619]

:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: that gif is awsomeeeee how u did that???!!!


:rambo: :eek: < ----lung hahaha just kiddin

[behemot5]

love your work as always.....your corto maltese fanart is great and your bot is the one i prefer....just waowwwww

[quantas]

lung....

inspirational as always....

keep up the good work and post more.....

you inspire me.....

q

[metalwinds]

after seeing your updates i feel like my goal - drawing for 6 hours a day - just isnt enough. you continue to inspire me.

keep kickin ass man

peace

[AndreasM]

I will purchase your book when it comes out.;) Seeing the way you have progressed, it wouldn`t suprise me if it came out this year.

[Cocofuppa]

Ive got to say, if a book of yours ever came over to the UK shores, I would snap it up in an instant :D Keep it up :beer:

[Anto]

what an update!

your work is so good that it pisses me off :mad: :eek: :D

whats this i hear about a book...??

[Lung_bug]

glad you peeps liked it

dunno how the book idea came up, heh. in some ten years maybe. long road to go, friends

here's something i've been enjoying lately- dilluted ink. preparing for going out to sketch, painting plen air. too cold tho, so i'm exploring the qualities of ink and everything at home.

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/newink001.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/newink002.jpg

also, one drawing from life. only had 20 minutes to do it, before it got way too cold to draw. muy fun tho.

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/life.jpg

my site should go online on 12th so i may post some of the stuff here too.
cheers

[gekitsu]

those ink samples look great! ink is a medium i enjoy a lot too.

for the plein aire pieces, i think sepia ink might fit the subject even better as it builds up to a dark tone close to black but has a more warm and natural overall look.

[Lung_bug]

i've been able to get only one kind of ink so far, but i'll try to get sepia. then again, there's always photoshop :) i was even thinking of trying to mix dilluted ink with tea. that's crazy enough to work

one more thing today, i was just drawing the view through my window, and when i finished, a gas cistern truck crashed right into that spot. so i drew that too, and i did a dilluted ink piece too, but didn't turn out that well. fantastic coincidence anyway, so i had to post

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/truck.jpg

[Grooveholmes]

Hhahaha, wicked power you have there... You should go draw other places and see what other catastrophies you can spur into motion.

[AndreasM]

Great update. I would love to see more landscape drawings from you. Btw. the book thing was meant as a joke/compliment,

[Farin]

that s so impressive ...
you really rock man...

[Lung_bug]

soundtrack: mike oldfield - out of sight (guitars album)

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sp080104.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sisreadin.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/nightstand.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/ana01.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/forearm.jpg

[Diego]

yo lung,
Awesome batch of pics...i like it a lot especially hand one.
Also i like the way you rendered the tree on the lifedrawing.
i used to draw my sister but i`m so tired.
Keep it up man you´re doing great as always

-Diego

[Famboozled]

I love these new sketches... gives me inspiration to DO MORE SO I CAN BE BETTER THAN YOU MR LUNG BUG (aint gonna happen says my friend).... excuse me, im a little whoopi doottty today :D

[Ant4d]

latest stuff is pure knockout.. amazing!

[MGH]

Love you sketches lung bug, especially the page with the fuel truck (pretty funny coincidence). It actually makes the scene much more interesting.

[golgari]

oh well, what shall i say anymore? your stuff is simply lovely.
i like those ink-landscapes a lot - even though they are out of your head, they are sooo atmospheric. so mist-like-swampish :)

are you lefthanded? (because the hand you drew seems to be the right one?)

[georgem]

I dont know about anyone else, but i would be really interested if you showed us some of your early work so we coudl see how you progressed? unless its to embrassing?

Youve got good artistic ability id like to see where you go with it in the furture

[gekitsu]

lung, i adore the drawing of your sister and the one of the pile o' books.
nice play between line and value, there. :)

would you mind telling me what tools you used for making those crisp lines? the tones look like normal wooden pencil, did you use it as well for the lines? or did you use a mech pencil? even an ink liner?

[DeadPepper]

Hey Lung_Bug, i just gotta tell you, man, that you are like my idol. Seriously. This stuff is amazing. I'll be 15 soon, and i'd be ecstatic if i had progressed as much as you have by the time i hit 17.

You have a style that just fits your work perfectly and a great sense of humor to match (Real ninja's always practise :D ). So keep it up, it seems you are inspiring a lot of people.

:chug:

[endregan]

these are great. i love your studies. your lines are full of motion too. love that. :)

[prawda]

thats just awesome ... your stuff really motivates me ... which markers do u use ??? all markers i have got are much darker then your in the bot sketch....

by the way @dead pepper , i love ur avatar

[antihero]

Hey lung... i triued to keep mysqlf from contributing to this "whoaa... you're awesome" but i can't... Been watching your for some pages now and you just rock. I guess after all it's still not a sin to state the obvious:
You rock.

Thanks for sharing. What size are the sketchbook drawings you posted recently? They look like being pretty small scale but i'm nut shure... Could you enlighten me about this thing?

:) antihero

[Lung_bug]

DiRob, Famboozled, Ant4d, Jens, DeadPepper, endregan, everybody- thanks! :chug:

golgari: with a mirror, i have two right hands :)

georgem: 1997
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/1997.jpg
(i don't watch nba anymore so please no bulls comments)
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/stuffs.jpg
slightly emphasized, but that's a good one

gekitsu: staedtler 0.1 black pigment liner. combines well with pencil

prawda: the markers i use are copic neutral gray #2 and #8

antihero: the spiral-bound stuff is all a5. everything on this page so far is pretty much a5, except for those ink pieces, the tree page and the forearm thing

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my site's not done yet, as i'm adjusting to school time, so i'm posting some here. these were done this morning in school, and the studies were done during the night. i really need to go to bed after posting this.

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/gogglechick.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/kid-one.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/turn.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/femstud.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/femstud2.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/femstud3.jpg

(didn't use refs on this last one. the one above also not much ref stuff.)

cheers

[georgem]

Thanks for that, i needed you to do that so i felt alright.
Also can you not be so good? if thats okay....

looking forward to the site

[3DZealot]

Really, Lung, wow. I don't post much, especially to offer but one positive remark amongst the multitudes.

Having said that, thank you. Your work is beyond inspiring. I've been struggling to develop my 2d skills(3d modeler by trade), and you have given me hope and inspiration beyond just about anything I've seen.

If it's possible, I was wondering if you had a few pointers.

Obviously, the secret to becoming decent at any art form is to simply do it all the time. That much, I get. But certainly, each of us as stumbled at some point in our development.

Having attained a degree of skill that many see as getting close to mastery, do you have any comments on what to avoid? What were your pitfalls(if any) along your journey so far?

Again, thanks a ton for sharing. Your work makes me take my fingers off my mouse and onto a pencil. :D

-3DZ

[Robolus]

This is my new Desktop Background: http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/stuffs.jpg

Hmm, I should print it out on Poster-size and hang it over my desk.

You are great man! :chug:

[gekitsu]

thanks for the hint on your tools, lung. very much appreciated. i'll play around with that ink/graphite combination a bit more.

the lats batch of stuff is cool. love the pelvis studies (strangely, i get a lot more insight out of other people's studies than i get of my own...). the shape of gogglegirl's lips is ubersexy. :)

you intend to come to the amsterdam workshop?

[obid619]

DUDE THATS SOO AWSOME PROGRESSE ....I SWARE IF I CAN DRAW 12 HRS A DAY I CAN BE AWSOME..I HAVE BEEN DRAWING FROM AS EARLY AS I CAN REMEMBER BUT U R MOTIVATIONAL

[billyk]

DUDE THATS SOO AWSOME PROGRESSE ....I SWARE IF I CAN DRAW 12 HRS A DAY I CAN BE AWSOME..I HAVE BEEN DRAWING FROM AS EARLY AS I CAN REMEMBER BUT U R MOTIVATIONAL

serious

[Lung_bug]

gekitsu: no, unfortunately i'm unable to go to the amsterdam workshop, or any other one until i'm in college

3dzealot: many people see my work as very inspiring, and i'm really glad because of that, but i personally don't think much of it. it's but a start, and i'm just trying get the max out of myself. some people told me that i always just crit people's stuff, and that's true, but i always do that to my stuff, to a much higher degree. and that might be the key to my progress, reevaluating it always and always, being nitpicky, being harsh. i consider myself a lazy person, actually, as i could be doing much more than i am right now.

concerning things to avoid, i'd go with these

1. struggling with the tools
tools should always work for you, not against you. imagine trying to write a novel without knowing how to write. you'd have a pretty good idea, but it'd be a struggle to do. know what your tools can and can't do. the better you are with the tools, the more attention you can give to the subject of the artistic interest.

2. getting caught up in a routine
drawing one subject over and over, until you begin to do it mechanically, even though it looks good. trying to draw something else usually results in frustration, because it's not on the same skill level. one of my goals is learning as much about all kinds of subjects. mr. coro here is a great example. art is all about experimenting and always trying new things.

3. ignoring the constant "DRAW FROM LIFE" comments
these are practically in every thread here, and from what i see, a lot of people started to consider it a phrase. it might seem that drawing from a photo is the same, but it's NOT. try and you'll see

that'd be the biggest three crits, i think. i'm writing these in school so i can't really get a good overview of what i wrote. one of the important things that a lot of people don't see is that art is a lifestyle, not just something you do from 2 to 5. whenever i go out, i become a sponge, trying to soak up as many things i can fit in my head. what kinds of objects are there, how do they look, how do they react to the general lighting, how do people dress... all these things are very useful in your drawing career, and every wake moment (and even dreams) can be used as a step to get you higher.

here's my four drawing "rules":

1. HAVE FUN
THE. MOST. IMPORTANT. THING. everything is useless without this. if you don't enjoy it, don't do it. be an economist instead.

2. BE REALISTIC
set realistic goals and go one small step at a time. don't aim too high, and don't try too much at once. that's why a lot of people end up being frustrated. small steps. it's easier and more consistent. they didn't make you learn the whole book in one week, back in school.

3. BE PERSISTENT
keep trying. things maybe won't come easily. some people need more time, some less, but they can both achieve big things. be real about this too

4. BE CRITICAL
always be very critical of your work. always try your best. don't leave the piece if you are aware of the errors. it's just shoving your head in sand. learn from your errors, as well from other people's.

the class is about the end so i have to skedaddle
it's just ranting, but i hope it helps someone

[donkeyslayer]

thanks lung. your words are always inspiring :}.

[nBT]

Originally posted by Lung_bug
georgem: 1997
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/1997.jpg


theres hope in that. its how alot of people start.
thanks for sharing all this drawing an thoughts.

whats this amsterdam workshop about? cuz i live there.

[prawda]

you should write a book

[Josef K.]

and i would definitly buy it

[metalwinds]

great advice lung........its very obvious that you are critical of your work, because you have gotten much better since you started here at CA. as many people have said before, you are an inspiration.......you are the reason that i draw as much as i do, because i have seen the progress someone has made by being dedicated to what they do, and now that progress is what i am trying to achieve. oh yeah, and great artwork :)

[3DZealot]

Agreed. I only discovered your thread a few days ago, and I've been dwelling on your work almost constantly. Thanks a ton for sharing some about your artistic walk. I love to heard these things. I wrote them all down to refer to them as I move along. Great things to keep in the back of my mind.

I think I figured out your secret though!

Um...

DRAW!

Hehe...

Thanks a ton for all this. I think you've made an impact on alot of people here. Feel good about that for a bit, ok? And don't stop. Please. Keep us posted if you have the time.

-3DZ

[Mister Tew]

Inspiring. Thanks Lung. :)

[Lung_bug]

thanks guys, i'll definitely keep at it, even harder now

mister tew! big fat thanks to you too, man. going to update the site anytime soon? i miss the bean

some randomly oldish stuffs today (first two are from this morning, a5 in size; third one is a collage of random junk... sometimes there's no time to design the pages, so the sketches go utilitarian; fourth one is a few days old; fifth one is just playing with the new photoshop, working on stroke economy; sixth is a few weeks old and has horrible persp errors, but i like the guy there). all of them 'cept the last one were done during classes

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/20_01.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/20_02.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/birds01.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/piledjunk.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/economy01.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/turn.jpg

will try to get another one soon, and the site
c(hazzwazz)heers

[HellTaxi]

Lung, great job, very inspirational work. I love your studies, and the broad range of things you study. Kep it up, i look forward to an update.


btw, check out my sketchbook page sometime, itd be great to have a a crit from you sometime.

[abyss]

inspiration for sure
one thing only
puzzling how it all seems bit unfinished and too simple
and still so hard to make it look that good..
betcha work out every free minute :)
i cannot say nothing but thanks.

[thomasaurus]

looking great, I love the birds!

[AndreasM]

I agree with Jonrish, the birds were awesome.
"Simple is good", you say. How much time do you spend on your faces?

[xia]

The Prodigy Child is BACK!!!
I've been awaiting for ur return..huh huh. Great sketches/study...inspiring. *Back to my drawingboard* :chug: :chug: :chug:

[obid619]

this guy here powns all. period. well...i cant be that merciful though....just keep up the good, no wait, great, no that ain't it, excellent, naw not that, CHAZZWAZZER'd work. I think that fit's :D

[modern]

props to lung. some of the best work i have ever seen. dont stop keep practicing and get better.

haha this smilie rules :evilbat:

[Erik]

!

This is so great man!

Love to see the progress drawings, makes everybody feel a bit better. ;-) Keep it up!

[gekitsu]

nice new stuff lung.

i still do have a question, though :)
when you dilute your ink, how do you approach it?
do you have several jars or something where you keep adding water to your ink or do you first load your brush with a certain amount of ink and dip it into water afterwards?

[Angela]

Lung.. I love your stuff.. Keep it up.. and ya! they're so inspiring to me... keep going! And keep pwning everyone... :) Hope to see your book on a bookstore's self oneday! Can't Wait for it... i just CANT wait =) well..

CYA!

keep it up man! keep it up! :chug:

[Yiako]

It's five days since the last dose! :beer:
What about that idea about a comic? Have you done something?

[steak-tron]

lung, your thread (and skills) continues to whip ass. Your mentaility is right on too, im trying to break from life refs too. They are a valuable assett but it's easy to be a copy machine and not understand the underlying structure of what is being drawn. If your always criticle you improve at an exponential rate, as you've so eloquently proven.
-steak

I thought you might get a kick out of this, little kid drawings are great
http://www.kempart.com/Artwork%20popups/lung.jpg

[steak-tron]

my spelling is terrible

[gallen0]

Whoaaa! i've jst discovered your thread, and the only word I can say is amazing! I like your works a lot!

[wilsonjr]

Lung bug!!!!
Great work man! I'm from Brazil and i'm so glad to have an oportunity to see your sketchebooks!
some questions!
Have you ever thought in work as comic book penciler?
Have you some stuff painted in traditional media?

Keep it up man!
regards from Brazil :D

[van]

I love you work! Amazing stuff. It is very inspiring, but I find your attitude the most inspiring. I only hope that I give off the same energy when I am able to produce stuff at this quality level.

Keep drawin'.

[Iseedeadpeople]

hey Lung, I really like your stuff. It is extremely inspiring, it is phenominal the amount of work you do. I had a question; how do you, or do you keep a balance between the amount of work you do and the amount of inspirations you find maybe from books or from travelling or from friends and family. I don't know if this make sense but the more I read the more I know how people think, the more people I meet and try to make friends with them, the more I know how that person thinks and why a person acts a way he or she does, and so I can relate this to your drawings and give opinios about them. Do you think that reading a book or travelling is as important as drawing everyday?

Ozanonur

[Karim M.]

Great Stuff man!
I just wanted to let you know, that you have been a great source of inspiration an motivation for me in the last weeks. Thanks for that :chug:

[Fifthace]

Jesus Christ, I love your style. Love.

[troymcoy]

You are so ridiculously good... I want to see More robots!

I'm 17, - your work depresses, but mostly inspires me.

as always...keep going, you are the shiznit!

[van]

*tap tap*

You should have never came here if you were just going to tease us!!

:evilbat:

[Spacepope]

You gots the mad skills. :)

[RETEP]

man your stuff is awsome, and very original. i am going to be checking in daily to see your stuff.
just awsome!!

[fruity poo slayer]

i dont like it :o

[Lauren Short]

saw your stuff - :jawdrop:


saw more (got scared at your awsoma powa!) :eek:


read your insightful comments:thumbsup:


decided i must b like you :beer:


and realized you own, dude! :bow:


thanx for the inspiration

[Cocofuppa]

Great life studies dude, ur linework is top quality. Any chance of lung doing any acrylic paintings or sumthin? :P

[johanson]

I'm still kind of new here, and just found this thread. Made sure to look through every page. Was sorry when it was over. I'm looking forward to more.

-andrew

[RETEP]

i dont know if anyone has asked this already, but do you use a blender for your pencil shadows?? which type of pencils do you use?

[obid619]

Originally posted by fruity poo slayer
i dont like it :o

^^^^^^^
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who's this guy? keep up the good work lung...i suppose you shouldnt mind that guy over there

[Lung_bug]

heya :chug:

helltaxi: "broad range of things you study" <- that's something i often whip myself about. well, recently i'm doing very diverse stuff (and enjoying it!) but no scanner to show right now :/

abyss: "bit unfinished and too simple". well, back when i was just starting out i was obsessed with craig mullins' stuff (goodbrush.com) and how his pics were really unfinished but looked really good. all a matter of knowing when to stop. ashley wood also does that thing all the time.

nor: thanks! birds rule

n0fish: 30 secs to 2 minutes i'd say

xia: :chug: (prodigy... right)

obid619: a chazz pint for ya too :chug:

modern: now that's a bit blowing it up but glad you liked em. and indeed, a fun smilie

erik: i guess i should keep making progress drawings then :)

gekitsu: i usually have a jar of solid black, a jar of 50-60%, a jar of 20-30% and a jar of water. sometimes just black/gray/water.

angela: :chug:

yiako: working on it right at this moment! writing this in a break between pages. will get it here when i get the scanner back

steak-tron: heh, kid drawings are fun indeed. if i dig mine up i'll post some too. that drawing there is slightly disturbing tho... i see an r2d2 with hairy balls... might be the giger book i'm reading tho :rolleyes: :D

gallenO: thankie :)

wilsonjr: doing comic pencils isn't really appealing for me. i have some plans concerning comics but it's mostly in a european underground author-comics kinda way. can't picture myself drawing page upon page of superhero comics. no fun.
painting in traditional media is something i'm working on, shyly. did a few still lifes in monochrome acrylics (man did those suck). i'll try and get a decent one up here. say hi to brazil :)

van: "I find your attitude the most inspiring"... hearing that makes me a happy little lung :chug:

iseedeadpeople: you're making a connection between artistic growth and growth as a person, if i understood well. very good question. imho those two are very related (at least in my case). by growing as a person, i become a better artist, and by growing as an artist, i can become a better person... dunno. reading and travelling is definitely important. one of my dearest dreams is to going around europe for a year with nothing but a sketchbook and a big fat smile on me

Karim: :)

Fifthace: i have a style?

troymcoy: more robots! trying to stay away from them atm, but it's hard :) did some studies for them the other day ;)

van: yeh, i know i should post more often :/

spacepope: and you got one funny nick

dingoegret: thanks!

fruity poo slayer: valid opinion. not very helpful though... what don't you like?

injection223: thanks :chug:

cocofuppa: i'll try to get some acrylics here soon. monochrome, though, because them paints are $$$

johanson: glad you like it, andrew

dingoegret: i don't own a blender, and mostly i work without smudging at all. sometimes i'll go in with a finger or a paper napkin, but that's not very often. pencils vary: it's mostly mechanical pencil, hb leads; sometimes i work with regular pencils, 2b, 4b and 7b (rarely)

obid619: whoever he was, he's banned now for trolling the daily sketchbooks (plain sad)

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just wanted to reply to you all, peeps, say thanks for the kind words. not much to share atm (*spank*), even my scanner isn't here so i'm posting a few oldies i haven't posted here and a selfportrait from earlier tonight.

http://lungbug.ice.org/new/017.gif http://lungbug.ice.org/new/015.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sp_080204.jpg

"A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do."
-Bob Dylan

[Hexal]

Man lung, great work. I love the way you crit your own work in on the page, and give your self little reminders, Ive found myself going through some on them and reading the notes(the ones that i can read at least for the compression). They have actualy helped me on many occasions. Im also tring to do it more in my work, to understand it better.

Thanks :chug:

[wes9000]

hahah i remember doing tons of sketches of overhead projectors too
keep it up

[siskol p]

lung,

it just gets more ridiculous every time i come back to this thread, you're definatly gonna make some professors jaws drop when you get your ass to college (if you're not there already...)

keep going man, i thoroughly enjoy this thread...

[abyss]

ok.here.
im jealous.dont please think im stupid for im just sayin
what obviously mostly all of you all think(feel).
but it isnt really what bothers me.
i dont work quiet so much.i draw for hours -yes, but only maybee once or twice a week.its on the third place on the scale of importance in my life now.
am i mad for being this jealous then???
duh!
lung i love your work you crazy bitch.

[Fishbu]

lung...I'm starting to think you should get a body guard. :rolleyes:

[Fifthace]

I love your little personal notes and observations all over the place. What I can make out is pretty damn helpful - and interesting, but it makes me sad when I can't figure out what's there. Maybe I just need a bigger monitor.

[obid619]

DUDE you posted new stuffs. cool. :D. there is one problem though and that is you gotta post more often. As always, good job. :p

[Diego]

hey lung,all your stuff is amazing as always ....... i would like to know how long did you take the last SP?
Just keep doing what you do and thanks for the inspiration........

-Diego
:chug:

[Jamaludin]

Mann, your really talented you just got born with the talent to create these magnificent creations. I was just wondering something, I Just read that you would not see yourself creating comics and such, which is kinda understandable, but since you draw that great, what do you see yourself do in some time in what industrie would you love to work, I would really dig to know that :D And that trip around the world with just you and your sketchbook and a smile on your face is something that must be truely great Ive been trying to save up for that myself but dang its so expensive, but im almost there :D And another rather difficult question, I always knew that if I would draw better I would feel better, and if I would feel better I would draw better, just like you said, BUT what if neither of them work for me, I dont feel better because my drawing is not getting better, and waht if I dont draw better because no matter what I still dont feel better. Lol ah bit hard to the eyes, but thanks for the inspirational work AGAIN :D
Cheers !

P.S. If you have the time and feel like it, would you perhaps hold an Open Canvas session with me I would really dig it to see how you draw and stuff, it would really help me learn drawing on itself, no im not gay ;) just eager to learn lol, well hear ya later :D

[AndreasM]

Bumpty Bump!
Lung, where are you? Have you stopped drawing?! We need more:D

[xia]

Hey PRODIGY CHILD! We demand more! We need u!
Peace

:chug:

[Yiako]

:jump1:

[Lung_bug]

hexal: glad you found those helpful, definitely try doing that

wes9000: at least it's a good perspective practice :)

siskol: yeh, that's the plan

abyss: croatia? zdravo! i hvala :) maybe we've met before?

fishbu: people find me scary enough as i am already, for some reason :D

fifthace: nah, i just don't post it big enough to be readable

obid619: true, true

dirob: around 15-20 minutes, i think

jamaludin: i would mostly like to get in the vast area of illustration, book covers and stuff. didn't say i wouldn't do comics at all, but just for myself. dunno, i find it hard to narrow down what i want to do, it's kinda easier to say what i don't see myself doing, at least for some time- matte painting and animation. fine art too, or any kind of 3d work. and about that draw better/feel better thing, it's ALWAYS possible to get better, just need to find a proper way. don't get caught up in a routine. draw from life, draw various things, don't expect spectacular stuff at first. small steps, you know? we can oc in a few months, right now i can't spend much time online due to poverty and stuff

nofish: stopped drawing? NEVER! just been soaking in movies, books, comics, getting inspired and learning new things

xia, yiako: :)

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for the past month or so i've been soaking in inspiring stuff, from comics and books to movies (mostly zombie stuff :) ), and it's been awesome to break up for a while. did a lot writing, a lot of projects now waiting to be drawn, can't wait to take on them. as i said, been reading a lot, especially mike mignola's hellboy. as i've started working with crow quills and ink, it's been a great source of inspiration, which is yet to be reflected in my work. i started inking that short comic i mentioned before, here's a bit of it (nothing jawdropping, but i'm happy with it being my first attempt at inking with a crow quill)

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/cabearlyink.gif

here's a thing i did for my site, also a practice in inking and patterns:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/prepcircle.gif

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/inkstar.jpg

one of the first attempts of working with crow quills, did this during the english class in school:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/early.jpg

then some cutey robots from the german class (possible short comic too):

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/scrapbook.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/rowbots.jpg

some jeans studies during math and physics:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/jeansass.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/physicsstudies.jpg

a random pencil drawing i few minutes back, first pencil drawing in a while :

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/bleugh.jpg

random heads i do as warmup in school, bit old:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/randomheads.gif

and a small 2x5 cm anatomy drawing on brown paper:
http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/2x5.jpg

cheers :)

[metaphysiks]

good to see new stuff from you. i have been doing the same as you as far as taking in a bunch of things right now in order to inspire me. looks like it has worked. it is always good to try new things. would you recommend the quill pens? they seem like they give you a different stroke, maybe a foreign feeling to you. good to see that your pencils are still strong. cheers.
meta

[Syrogen]

HES BACK! :D

[Crash]

ah man, its really nice to see that your back. I thought youve died or something.

You have always been a inspiring person and i hope you keep at it as hard as you do.

[davi]

yahoo!

[troymcoy]

Great stuff lung... do you have any 3d work to show?

[winjer]

what the hell are your grades in school like with all this drawing in class? but that probably wont matter for you anyhow.

[Avetice]

lol that zombie wanting liver is hillarious

[JackalAnubis]

great things! wow, your in-class doodles are very developed, do your teachers yell at you for not paying attention? whatever, keep at it! you're the reason I started up a sketchbook again.

[Nadim]

Super !

[The Bear]

Brilliant work, as always Lung...

[Yiako]

A bit too much influence from Mignola, but it's too damn difficult avoid it. The man has an incredible style.
The comic looks just SOOOO good. You seem as good a storyteller as a drawer. Hope you finish the story.

[Cocofuppa]

Gr8 work lung, but seriously peeps, im sure lung wants to get more constructive replies to improve his work, as well as get good feedback. I mean there is no need to sugercoat the dude with love and praise, that wont make him his talent improve, he isnt jesus :P

After all, if boot camps werent tough, then how would they learn to be better? Certainly not with love and affection.

Keep it up! :D

[georgem]

i like the little note about drawing feet on the previous page
"1. get mirror
2. draw
3. analyse
4. see step 2"

.....

[golgari]

it's a note about learning how to draw feet!
and yeah, i like it, too. like all the other stuff. some of it really makes me have a "deeper insight" on how to tackle certain subjects. give us more lung...please ;)

oh and by the way...when doing studies (from photos for example) how important is it for you to be exact? i mean, are you only satisfied if your drawing is just like the photo or do you go about it by saying "well, as long as i've got the basic structure and the picture as a whole looks okay, that's enough"?

[Jeff Jaws]

how could I miss that update? Nice jeans studies ;)

Jj.

[abyss]

glug ...blug...dont quiet get that story
so i must disagree with you yiako my friend...

e pa neznam lunže :)
iako bas tesko..(ako imalo licis ko tip s
autoportreta id probably notice you on the street)
btw didnt like that last one.not sure why guess its coz its a bit messy and i like clean drawings

[Yiako]

Abyss, I think is just a first page. What I mean is that the storytelling (the narrative: use of angles, spaces... the flow of actions) is really good for my taste.
Now Lung, you just have to finish this comic and show it to us!

[Yina]

wow.. good work i must say~ what are your references/inspiration?

[abyss]

didnt you read yiakos reply miss?mignola probably.
and if im right (probably not and ignore me in that case)
the guy in the second scene of the comic.

[Lung_bug]

metaphysiks: yeh it's a new feeling, it's kinda strange to learn how to use the medium from scratch, but it's definitely awesome. i could just scribble with a crow quill all day long. the feeling's awesome. plus you get a real nice variety of lines outta it. must try it

syrogen: kind of

crash: :evilbat:

davi: :p

troymccoy: um... no.

winjer: my GPA is around 4.0... :D

avetice: thanks, zombies are always fun

jackalanubis: they got used to me drawing i guess

king, the bear: :)

yiako: yeh, i had just been reading hellboy for two days straight so it was hard to not be influenced. but as always, at first i rape it completely and later on it gets mixed with my other influences and my quirks so it becomes a part of my own 'style'. good at storytelling as much as drawing? i'd be very happy if that's so. we'll see when i get this done. cheers

cocofuppa: dead on. :chug: i'd really appreciate more bitching and tearing apart. what'd you like to see more, what don't you like, write it all. only way i could learn. more constructive feedback = more posts of mine...

georgem: helps? sorry about t-dome, it was a messy situation

golgari: exactly! you should try and write some of your own too. photo studies are always a tricky subject, and imho it depends on what you're trying to learn from it. if you want to go for 'photorealism', then you'll be after nailing it exactly. in most cases, it's better to not to be a slave to the photo. get it close, but don't be too anal about it. if you're studying, let's say, proportions, then you have to be really careful to get the proportions, and don't have to go nuts on lighting and other things. i always learn one or two things from studies, because if i try to work on everything at once (anatomy, lighting, clothing, composition, etc.), i get too baffled and end up with a half-assed sketch, so i just focus on composition or colors (or any other specific thing) instead.

jeff jaws: yeh, those were most fun to do :)

abyss: it's 3/4 of the first page, without text, and the whole story runs for about 7-8 pages.

yiako: glad you like it, and working on it (somewhere half way through now)

yina: ref/inspiration... that's a long one to answer :) a lot of things, from puddnhead and wes here to comic artists like mignola, biukovic, zezelj, many other artists on the internet. music and books also provide a great source of inspiration... *shrug* i'll have to put a big list on my site i guess :)

abyss: mignola is one of the recently found inspirations, and i wouldn't say his stuff has that much influence on me. sure, the comic looks seem influenced solely by him, but there's at least as much of Zezelj in there, if not more. it's just that he's less known than mignola. you might now of him though :) (if not... :bash: )

i'll post some art soon, just wanted to reply... as cocofuppa said, more constructive criticism would help, have no mercy

cheers
keep drawing

[abyss]

dude!zezelj is a genious!i loooove him!
ever seen ilics stuff?yiako did.i can never degree their popularity but yiako has "the other side" so ...i guess you shold know bout them to.(ilic + kordej).
not so bad as well.not near as good as zezelj tho.
about the constructive comments.i have none really.but im gonna pass on a suggestion i got some time ago;
try ignoring pencil totally for some time.a marker too (those with that sharp points).see how much you can last like that.
use anything but those.i lasted for 2 months.enoug.slavery i tell ya (at least for me) but my skills improved in other podrucjima :)

[Lung_bug]

zezelj does kick ass and he is a great influence (especially when it comes to cityscapes and near-abstract storytelling). more people should know his work, but his work for dark horse and dc isn't nearly as good as his solo stuff... ilic's stuff i'm not so familiar with, seen just a few frames and some stuff in that documentary on hrt few months back. kordej, on the other hand, i'm much more familiar with, because his algoritam covers have been one of the things that made me do this :) and his comics are quite nice too, but i've read only that mugambi story in Q, and a bit of rivers of blood. didn't read the old kvadrat stuff.

that suggestion sounds interesting, but what am i supposed to work with, then? acrylics? i don't have much soft & muddy materials. brushes? though, you can make sharp stuff with them too...

[Renzsu]

Hi there, just wanna tell you I really enjoy your sketchbook so far. Keep up the good work and post some more of those inkings as well ;)
Like the notes you put with your sketches as well, this thread is turning into some kind of tutorial mix hehe, anyways, nice of you to make those, cheers! :beer:

[MurkyDreams]

Wow, great stuff man. Just wondering... what drawing books have you read and would reccomend for people to have a look at? I want to buy some drawing books, but I'm not sure what I should get. Any help would be appreciated.

[abyss]

its up to you and you only.improvise.
its called creativity.most people here seem to forget that little thing since theyre all tryin to learn sth, mostly from patterns,
those million different how to guides.
good.fine.not always so interesting.it shouldnt be working and learning all the time, it should be also having fun!
and since you and all the rules (as far as shadowing, anatomy, clear lines, perspective -those stuff go)
seem to get along so well already now,
no harm can come from joking around a bit.
so use brushes, ok.go with something more alternative later on.leave the pencil to us, havenoideajets to maddle with!
pretty please.
i dont think im the only one ancious to see your stuff a bit weirdly done.
im sure youll bring us a maserpiece :)

[Lung_bug]

abyss: i see your point. however, i don't agree completely. you are implying that pencil is for beginners and lineart is patterned behaviour, and that can't be true. people have fun doing it the old way, too. it's a question of form. because of the nature of this forum, a lot of people strive to lineart, pencils, whatever that is efficient to bring their idea through. and it's hard through collage, drawing with a ragged cloth or wire installations. right now i was going to do a city scene inspired by the beginning of this novel i'm reading, perdido street station, and the idea was to show complexity and broodiness of the environment. now, if i was to do it in any other media than lineart, it'd be just cumbersome. not saying it wouldn't be succesful. just saying it wouldn't work as good. i agree with the 'break up the routine' thing. it's always good to experiment. there is creativity in the old, by-the-book stuff too. dunno if you follow the events on the croatian comic scene, with komikaze and e-flit? the avantgarde people? i read most of them and i got quite bored of it, because in their striving for new methods, their ideas got boring, uninteresting. on the other hand you had eddy making history with his grendels, and they were not only classical, but done for american, commercial market! that's why i'm a bit biased when it comes to that stuff. there's nothing wrong with the old stuff, don't discard the pencil. that attitude always reminds me of modern art elitists.

murkydreams: i haven't read many books on art, loomis' online stuff is pretty much all i've read, along with burne hogarth's dynamic anatomy. recently i downloaded scott mccloud's book on sequential art (this is theory, but still valuable if you want to venture into the comics area). all these books are nice, but the hogarth one isn't really good to start with (more at an intermediate-pro level), so i'd go with loomis for starters. i hear bridgeman books are quite good, but i haven't seen them yet, so i can't really tell

renzsu: thanks :)

[abyss]

no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think regular pencils and staedtler sharp point markers are the greatest ever in the history of man kind!i wasnt tryin to imply those were tools for begginers, just that at a point of development you seem to have reached a new ability to experiment pops out as an option.
about the having fun part..maybe i see it a bit differently, i dont know.never mind.
edvin biukovic + darko macan!ive read something (quite a time ago tho)
liked it enough to remember their names.
it was about some kind of tribe in a war.it wasnt plane lineup of events,as it usually goes and its why im not a comic fan, there were some interesting cathegory well hidden spirit too.it has emotion to it.yeap.
i like you :)

[kinokuniya]

lung man- wow... :P
I must confess that your fantastically versatile awe inspiring artwrok pushed me to make my own little sketchbook. Thanks - and keep drawing!!!!

[metalwinds]

dunno if youve ever tried charcoal, but itll definitely help you loosen up.. . its a fun medium to pick up and play around with, but you can also get really detailed and realistic pieces out of it. recommend the vine charcoal, then the compressed charcoal for more dark areas. great work as usual

[maldrin]

Lung - your comments regarding line art and nuMedia and modern art elitists hit home with me - I agree completely. I don't claim to be an art expert, but I've got college training and I've used plenty of different types of media. Each one suits a specific purpose, and the choice of media is almost always important to the subject matter. I find line art and other pencil work to be VERY contusive to a lot of different subject matter, and it's brilliantly accessible. There are plenty of ways to "push" the work and try new things even within the bounds of line art without having to go to some wild new media. I find a lot of "nuMedia" work is, as you described it, boring WRT ideas because it's more about making art out of shoelaces and mayonnaise and plastic resin and less about conveying a compelling image and idea.

perdido street station is a phenomenal book, and I'd love to see your work in progress and final work, whether it's on this forum or just through private emails. That book moved me in so many ways, and is extremely visual and visceral. It is one of the things that shook me out of my corporate-induced ennui and made me feel compelled to get back to my artist roots. I couldn't read it and NOT want to draw. Please please please share your thoughts and work on it, I couldn't be more pleased to know you're reading that book and working on such a piece.

your thread has been very inspirational to me, and has taught me the rich rewards of hard work and that the one rule is to DRAW DRAW DRAW! I appreciate that, because it's really what I needed to do and it's helping me a lot. I'm working on a piece based on a scene from a book, as well - from a short story by M. John Harrison, one of China Mieville’s compatriots. You should check his stuff out if you like Perdido Street Station. Harrison paints with words, as well, and has stripped horror and magic down to their essential oils....it's like real life, but the f'd up factor is tweaked up a notch or two. His short stories don't give you answers, they give you questions. brilliant stuff.

Thanks for your thread, I really enjoy it. Please show some progress work and (if you're willing) I'd love to discuss how you've planned/conceptualized the New Crozubon cityscape. Planning is one of my weak areas in that I almost always either over-plan or under-plan and I rarely get it quite right. :)

Rock on,

maldrin

[afklamer]

:bow:
!


by the way where in croatia do you live ?
I used to live in karlovac looong time ago ^^

[Lung_bug]

abyss: that was grendel (devils and deaths) :). experimenting i agree with, always. and i try to, just don't post much of it here for various reasons (mostly not happy with the results), but i'm slowly starting to add more ink and acrylics stuff. a lot of stuff going on in my head concerning mostly the visual vocabulary; trying to learn to draw things like urban landscapes, clothing, etc. and it'd be cumbersome to go apeshit on the mediums while i'm learning, hence the pencil being the most common choice.

kinokuniya: too kind :) have fun with the sketchbook. draw something in it every day!

metalwinds: i had a pack of vine charcoal floating around but i gave it to my gf about a month ago... need to get some more. thanks for the suggestion, i'll definitely give it a shot

maldrin: whenever i hear mayonnaise related to art, i always remember Beuys :), but yeh, that last line really nailed it. about perdido street station, it sure is a great book, but also a book with a lot of new words for me, so i'm going through it slowly (around page 50 now). i will definitely draw some of the stuff from it and post it here, or on my site. didn't hear about Harrison, but i'll try and get some of his stuff in e-book format and check it out. did you read the Difference Engine, by Bruce Sterling and William Gibson? that's a kickass book too (steampunk bible). thanks for the kind words and cheers

nagasch: i live in the south, near metkovic (some 90 km north of Dubrovnik) :)

---

today i was ill (no school yay) but unable to read, write or draw much (bummer) so here's just the stuff i did manage to do inbetween headaches:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/study_mar18.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/study_mar18detail.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/study_mar18_baby.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/sp_mar18_web.jpg

first two (three) are just studies from photos in 4B and HB pencil, respectively. the contrast was punched up in photoshop. did them just to get back to the pencil feeling, and i happened to run into llewellyn's thread yesterday (that's always fatal). been working in ink so much that i forgot how it was to do something remotely finished with pencils. the last one is a selfportrait in acrylics, a rather unsuccesful one (but fun anyways), as it winded up acrylics controlling me, instead of vice versa, and i had to do minor corrections in photoshop (forehead proportions... note: never draw/paint at a funny angle to the paper). also a small tribute to wes :chug:

anyways, off to bed before my head pops

[xia]

Yes! Prodigy child...I have been awaiting for your return!
Great study! :chug:

[AndreasM]

Finally. It`s good to se some high contrast drawings from you - even if they are altered in Photoshop. It gives this "dramatic" feeling. (This is also a strong contrast to the previous drawings you have shown us). Love it!

I like the portrait. One thing that I have noticed in your drawings, is that you never add too much details to the eyes. I have struggeled with that; when the eyes finally are done, it`s hard to balance out the rest. (hope that makes sense...)

Anyway, I love them. Can`t wait to see more.
:chug:

[metalwinds]

good work as usual. i think the main problem with the sp is that it really flattens out in areas... .under your left eye.. .part of the chin. .. which brings down the image as a whole. some parts of it are working really well though. ..the lips.. areas in the forehead.. . but all in all it looks pretty good. i think your left eye is too far to the right.. . maybe. either way, you should post more.. . that would be cool.

[abyss]

you should see now what i mean :)
i do not still have anything constructive to add
dont quite like the shape..but you know faults
better than me i suppose
the compositions of shades and coulor are fine tho
had to get that first sentance out.have to go now
but catch you up on zezelj and macan stuff later
(when my fathers not up my ass)
love

[endregan]

sweet dood . yeah acrylics dry fast, sometimes unforgiving but the beauty is u cant paint right over it, even make it like oils.

Man your photo ref look almost from life! Do you take life drawing?

We are the same age yet you are leaps ahead of me. Mucho respect!

[maldrin]

Originally posted by Lung_bug

maldrin: whenever i hear mayonnaise related to art, i always remember Beuys :), but yeh, that last line really nailed it. about perdido street station, it sure is a great book, but also a book with a lot of new words for me, so i'm going through it slowly (around page 50 now). i will definitely draw some of the stuff from it and post it here, or on my site. didn't hear about Harrison, but i'll try and get some of his stuff in e-book format and check it out. did you read the Difference Engine, by Bruce Sterling and William Gibson? that's a kickass book too (steampunk bible). thanks for the kind words and cheers


Hey Lung, I'm in America and Perdido Street Station taught -me- quite a few words. It's got a great vocabulary! I'm glad you're enjoying it and I look forward to seeing your drawings. I'll PM you a link to one of Harrison's short stories once I find the link again...it's got great imagery and also a great "sound" to it.

The Difference Engine is a great book! I've been a fan of Gibson's work since Neuromancer and Sterlings since Islands in the Net. Both are excellent, but neither are steampunk. Difference Engine has wonderful concepts and yes, it is DEFINITELY the Steampunk Bible.

Your new sketches and self portrait are really good! I've tried to work in acrylics, and it is hard to get the right rhythm. I found it easiest to lay down some flat colors and then glaze it with contrasting colors to push down the areas I wanted to be shaded. For quick work with a single layer, I would thin the paint slightly with acrylic medium and just a tad of water, it kept it wet for longer. Also for my palette I'd use wax paper over several moist paper towels - the moisture would seep up through the paper into the paint to keep it from drying quite as fast. Don't know if any of those tricks will help, but figured I'd throw that out there.

Thanks for sharing!

maldrin

[3DZealot]

Lung:

Just as you have been studing members of this board's work, so I have been studing yours.

I have read through most all of your posts, and something has peaked my interest.

You write many notes on your sketches, some seem out of boardom, but alot of them are almost like notes one would take in a class. What are the source of these notes? Your own personal observations? I guess it's kinda interesting because from what I can make out(due to compression loss), they have been very informative little tips.

I guess maybe it's sort of like a bit of a diary for you too.

Really cool.

-Z

[Lung_bug]

hey peeps
figured i could share these before i just shove them away somewhere... both were done in school to illustrate certain points regarding pencils and going from rough to detailed and stuff (to a friend) so they aren't much of spectacular conceptwork. both mechanical pencil:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/schoolfart01.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/schoolfart02.jpg

if i ever finish these i'll post here
they are about all the stuff i did since friday, feh. school starting to take a lot of my time (good thing is that there's only two months left)

...also

a small poll for you peeps- would it be better if i:
1) posted a few pics every day or two or
2) posted a dozen of pics every two weeks or so?

---

xia: thanks :) will i still be a prodigy child after i turn 18?

nOfish: yeh, i'm learning about scanner settings a bit, heh. but indeed, when i look back to my older sketchbooks, it's all gray-gray. and about the eyes, dunno. it's spontaneous and i always try to get them in a few strokes. as i wear glasses i don't really see my eyes in detail so i try to nail it as simply as possible.

metalwinds: dead on. that sp was a salvage job from start. looked real ugly, somehow managed to fix it to a reasonable measure. it got real thick though :) thanks!

abyss: cheers mate

endregan: damn fast indeed. i pulled a lot of weird stuff though, as i have no idea how to work with them. so i had parts where i worked with two brushes at the same time, on parts i smeared the paint with my fingers or brushes or cloth, dry brushing on some areas, etc. it's really fun exploring it. you say my photo ref look almost from life, but i hope my stuff from life will look as good as the photo ref stuff :D. if i get into college (fingers crossed) we'll see... that's my only chance of life figure drawing in the future (if you don't count girlfriends and annoying relatives).

maldrin: i'm in croatia and i think it will double my vocabulary. thanks for the harrison link, i pm'd you. and BIG THANKS for the acrylics tips :chug: my palette currently consists of titanium white, indigo blue and some weird red (which i don't use). figured it'd be best to go simple for starters. would you suggest making presets, like a few basic values i could use to block in? that occured to me in the middle of the sp, but i haven't had time to try it out yet

[xia]

Holy mo! Awesome work! Great design Lung. after 18? you will still be prodigy young man. How's that sound? Well, I kinda like the sound of Pridigy child better. :chug: :chug: :chug:

[I.was.ink]

Very cool sketches Lung. I like the fatter guy the most.

I vote for the sketchbook update every two weeks or so. This way, we sort of like forget you're around(which doesnt really happen but allows me to try and catch up) and then one day BAAM! Lung Bug has posted(Which is when I start to sweat and get all jittery as I click on the post...:p)

Which ever one you choose just dont stop postin!

Iwasink

[Yiako]

My vote:
Post a dozen pics every day or two. :D

[Syrogen]

0.o mind blowing stuff lung! btw, id vote post a few pics everyday or so.

[Karim M.]

Originally posted by Lung_bug

a small poll for you peeps- would it be better if i:
1) posted a few pics every day or two or
2) posted a dozen of pics every two weeks or so?


Haha, that's what I call service :D
I think I vote for Number 1, a few pics every day or two.... man that would be asskicking! :chug:

I really like the Face of the first one. Very cool expression.

[Schlo-mo]

Number 1, I've read your sketchbook everyday for months.

I need my fix!

[Aidan]

/votes for no2

That would be like christmans every week ;)

/e: Or everytwo weeks, whatever

This whole fucked up day finally turned well in the late evening hours...

[flex mathews]

great work as always... i vote for 2

[AndreasM]

Cool schtuff! My vote goes for number 1.

[The Iconoclast]

I'm 15, I love these boards, and I've read almost 4/5 of your spectacular thread here. I hope I can get as good as you in two years. How much formal training in art have you had and how often do you sketch? I heard about your twelve hour adventure a couple posts back, and I think I'll try to beat that right after I finish this post.

Second, how do you sketch?

Third, what books do you recommend? I have Bridgeman and I've downloaded Loomis, and I'm looking into buying Hogarth because a lot of people seem to learn from his exaggerated anatomy.

This thread made my day. I'm all envious now, beech! I thought I was the child prodigy! :evilbat:

:chug:

*EDIT*

I prefer one or two every day or two. Oh, and who hosts all those pics? I need THAT host :D

[treeboy]

yeah, id say one or two every couple days

its nice to have something fun to look at every so often :)

[Lukias]

Absolutley BEAUTIFULL!!!. Cheers for the buzz mate:)

[empty]

every couple of days or so...

[PeggyChung]

hey lung, id say every couple of days, just because maybe you might scan more :P instead of having a mess to scan and might get lazy? i dunno thats just me. nice sketches btw, somethign about ur sketches, the graphite looks purple-ish to me especially the 2nd to last.

p.s. how about "war" at ja forums lung! sounds like an awesome idea but the thread sorta stopped -.-''

[brkofdon]

i am incredibly impressed, with your talent at your age, you have been exposed to concepts/ideas/theories of art that i got to grasp in my 2nd n 3rd year of college and i started college when i was 17 so you are definetly an inspiration hands down <---this is all the praise im going to give you. you already have massive amounts of it already said by hundreds of people already, you dont need anymmore. i want to critique your work, but since there is so gosh darn many, i will have to go thro this huge thread again and pick out individual images and attack them from there....but right now i need to finish my work, so i just wanted to add to this thread and know that i too am watching you!!!!

will post again with something more constructive!!!!..soon:cool:

[hoopa]

OMG, I'm totally speechless. The only word for that is inspiring. I've seen a lot of awesome artists on this forum, but what I just saw was amazing, and ur only 18!
Don't ever stop drawing dude, very few people get to the level of skill that you've got. Well done, hope to see more soon.

[Nadim]

Great work !

You can post daily - weekly - monthly ....
Do whatever you like - I'm already addicted !!

[maldrin]

Originally posted by Lung_bug


...also
a small poll for you peeps- would it be better if i:
1) posted a few pics every day or two or
2) posted a dozen of pics every two weeks or so?


My vote is a few pics every day or two. I'm impatient. Plus, I savor each post much more when there are only a few pics. A dozen pics at once, I'd overdose on it and not be able to focus on one thing and really enjoy it. Lastly, for decent crits and comments, a few at a time is probably better. Too many pics at once and it'll be general comments like "damn, that's some nice art." instead of "what I really like about that piece or this piece is the way you drew that foot so damn perfectly or how nicely shaded the metal areas are or how you used negative space." If you get my drift.




maldrin: i'm in croatia and i think it will double my vocabulary. thanks for the harrison link, i pm'd you. and BIG THANKS for the acrylics tips :chug: my palette currently consists of titanium white, indigo blue and some weird red (which i don't use). figured it'd be best to go simple for starters. would you suggest making presets, like a few basic values i could use to block in? that occured to me in the middle of the sp, but i haven't had time to try it out yet

I got your PM, and I'll be responding, thanks! Glad you liked the acrylic tips. I am by no means an acrylic expert (or an expert at anything, really) but I can say that I make my color choices early, because the time to sit and ponder just isn't there when painting with acrylics. it's also important probably not to plan TOO much. Damned if you do, etc.
Mixing some values ahead of time is probably a good idea, especially when you're first starting, so that you don't have to worry so much about timing. Just like with pencil-work, eventually you won't need to do that and/or you'll find better ways to do it that suit you better as you grow better with the medium. I look forward to seeing your future work. If I can fit my one acrylic piece I'm somewhat happy with on the scanner, I'll PM you an image. so you can see my simple glazing effort.

Also, while I don't usually go to FARP (Fantasy Art Resource Project) and I'm not even sure what an "Elfwood" is (sounds dirty, tho ;) ), when I googled for acrylic painting and portraits, I found this link that might have some good info on it. It's a simple overview, but it's cheaper than buying a book that would likely have most of the same info in it.

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/acrylics/introduction.html

Later! ;)

maldrin

[evillair]

not much to say, awesome. :)

[metalwinds]

great lighting on those 2, lung. i am currently struggling with handling a light source in my non reference work. .. .got any pointers on how to get better at that?

my vote is for number 1. i would love to see new stuff from you every couple of days. .. quick sources of inspiration to get me back to drawing.

[abyss]

darn it you were right!it was a stupid suggestion
i myself- not a fan of numedia
tho i was thinking of carbon and the usual but not so popular stuff
i dont get along with acrylics (duh!
tho once you spent so much money on them its kinda idiotic not to experiment..
so maldrin if this garbage i do improves, my mother will be very happy so thanks for the tips my man :flower:
ehey lung!! where will you go to school?which one?any thing related to this?(art i mean)art, design (that one would fit i think!) ?
one should think so :)

+ i vote for the first one
hope you dont get sick off all this :)

im joking.course you wont.

right?

[MindCandyMan]

Awesome lung...very very inspiring!

[Ra Havok]

Awe-inspiring as usual, Lung Bug.


I can only wonder how good you'll be in say, 10 years from now. From my point of view, you have sheer unlimited potential.

the :beer: is on me!

[cato]

what can i say ,...
amazing your work ,i like every little point in your drawings

nice greetz to croatia

[Rimshot]

Im 19....in 3 years (out of college) i hope to have your skillz.....at.....17:confused: :bash:

[Lung_bug]

i had just spent 10 minutes writing a reply and then the computer died. too pissed off to write it all again so here's just some pics

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/cars.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/windows.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/variousjunk.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/docks.jpg

these are from a speedy lifedrawing session from yesterday, straight ink (pilot g1 + some marker washes). the following ones are few random ones from the past week

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/poo_02_sketch.jpg http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/inkpud.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/beastofspectrum_wip1.jpg



i'll post more stuff very soon

[Karim M.]

Hey Lung. Nice Car Studies!

The Style of the four kids reminds me very strong of the one Eiichiro Oda has. Do you know him? He's a Japanese... hm... you might know One Piece. Very cool so.

[AmadorL]

hey Lung always look for your new work man...love'n your coloring looks fun!

Keep it' pimp'n
-A

[xia]

LOVE the WINGIE ROBOT! Amazing Prodigy child!
:chug: :chug: :chug:

[abyss]

hm..nice buildings.they seem to be done just for studing.
comic backgrounds?
is taxi driver gonna live?

[Lung_bug]

karim: thanks :) i'm not familiar with eiichiro oda, but i found some sites through google and i see the similarity

amador, xia: thanks :chug:

abyss: yeh just studies, and indeed for comics :). taxi driver is on hiatus right now as i'm not happy with the story. working on something else though and it's been coming along nicely.

[killing.people]

:D

[metalwinds]

great studies, lung, and that color piece looks really nice.. . .you made those flourescent colors work well. i have a question though. .do you have any advice for someone that wants to get good with photoshop and digital coloring? ive done quite a few reference studies of the human figure, but any help or advice you could give me would be awesome. also, any idea where, or if, youll be going to college?

keep up the great work

[spok]

wow...i love your shit..nice jeans study...your gonna be 16 soon right? happy b-day in advance...

[Lung_bug]

killing.people: :)

metalwinds: thanks. concerning digital coloring, not much to say about it... how good are you with grayscale stuff? if you're not good with that, better leave the color aside for a bit and work on values. color introduces a whole different set of problems to work on. good stuff to read upon are manley's color theory notes (do a search for the thread, i think he posted it here too), lemen's stuff is invaluable too (lemen= fredflickstone), prometheus' post is quite nice too. someone once suggested doing thumbnail color studies from movies and such to develop a feel for the colors (recognizing them), and that's also a nice idea (which i should be doing much more myself). there were pages in one of the loomis books about colors. dunno. look at stuff from the artists you like and try to figure out how they did it. the best bit of advice i got about it all was "think before you paint". take your time with it, and keep at it. reference studies of the human figure sounds like a good way to do it, just don't forget the vast variety of subjects out there... landscapes, animals, giant killer robots...

spok: 16? yeh that'd be nice :) i'm turning 18 on april 13. damn i think i just found a grey hair!

:chug:

changed my avatar for fun. i give it a week.

[Kress]

WOW that robot painting is lookin good.

[Renzsu]

hey Lung, like your car study's.. you know car designers often use the rule you can fit about 3.5 wheel sizes between the wheels for a medium car. those proportions change for suv's or bigger saloons..

[spok]

well then update your personal settings... i thought your stuff looked pretty amazing for a 15 year old...

[Lung_bug]

kress: i started that one with intention to put it as a splash on my site. now i'll definitely put it :)

renzsu: that's a great bit of information! thanks a lot. :chug:

spok: off my profile page - "Birthday: April 13, 1986"

[bRyaN]

Dude, do you have Manley's color theory notes compiled....

cause i saw them over at Sijun, but it's in multiple posts...

[Diego]

yo lung,
what are you studying or going to? Are you travelling to the states or another country?
-D

[AmadorL]

Hey Lung you know what I would love to see from you?
A muscle study with the pic of the reference you used. I was giving it a shot the other day and I couldn't get the feel I wanted. So I figured that if I saw how someone else did it
from ref it would help me.

good look'n out
Amador

[abyss]

nice.hope to see it whatever its gonna be.
esp if you finish it up.
HEY!!!my birthdays also april 13 :)
yay! maybe im a genious too. la la la la la la
:)
bye

[xia]

YES 13 is the luckiest number in the world! :chug:
To all the 13th Bastards! :D :chug: :chug: :chug: :chug: :chug:
Let's get drunk and draw.

[Hexal]

Originally posted by Rimshot
Im 19....in 3 years (out of college) i hope to have your skillz.....at.....17:confused: :bash:


I feel that same way. Nice stuff as always lung :beer:

[spok]

so it does...i probably thought '88...my bad...any wayz, great work...

[MurkyDreams]

You probably get this all the time, but you're very inspiring. You're a perfect example of what practice and determination can get you. You're a giant among men, but you had to work your way up to get there. You're my hero.

[insane visions]

cool stuff man..we should collaborate on some creature design for fun...keep it up

[Lung_bug]

http://lungbug.ice.org

:waves: :chug: :nana :party: :love: :fruit: :flower: :partyguy: :dorky: :clapping2 :chicken: :jump2: :jump1: :nana :party:

[xia]

Congrat Kid!

[AmadorL]

thats a nice book huh Lung. Maybe you can get Jon to sign it for you ........that would be the shit....

oh and happy Lung day to ya..:chug:

-A

[dakoscwash]

Happy birthday!!

[AndreasM]

:chug:
:beer:

[thomasaurus]

happy birthday lung!

p.s great sketches

[endregan]

yeah happy bday!

hey maybe i do have a chance. your so old now compared to me hahaha ;)

18 for me is coming this summer :)

keep updating man!

enjoy fosters book, its amazing!

[maldrin]

Happy birthday man. your girlfriend is the greatest! she obviously knows you well. That's awesome, as is the book!

Hope you've had a great birthday and I am still loving everything you post.

drink up, be merry, and have a great time. keep it safe, stay alive, so you can keep sharing your artwork with those of us that are addicted to LUNG.

Peace,

maldrin

[obid619]

Happy B-Day Lung. Lemme just regurgitate what so many have said: you are an inspiration to all, especially teenagers like me. I wish I had you dedication for art, and I'll pledge to draw everyday. So anyway....:chug:

[Jamaludin]

HAPPY B-DAY DUDE, andthanks for inspiring us all this time. And youre one lucky man your girlfriend must know you like nobody does, hope it was nice man. Man I feel so old I will become twenty in a month, offf, time goes to fast. Have fun and good luck with your other procedings...

[Karim M.]

hey happy Lung Day! stay healthy and have a nice time. best wishes from Germany :chug:

PS: What's the Foster Book?

[cato]

http://www.jonfoster.com/books.html

lg
cato

[Angela]

Happy birthday lung! hope you have an awesome bday!

[Bojee]

New fan to your work lungbug, your so inspiring, for your age and just simply cause your damn good. I quoted you the other day, just tryin to get the word out, so other people can check out your stuff.
Happy belated birthday to you man, I can't wait to see what the future holds for you.:thumbsup:

[blindthief]

beautiful anatomy. your female figures remind me of andrew loomis's.

[gaboartpage]

Lung_bug it seems like you have been
running this sketchbook for forever ...

I like your demos , your critic notes, your
anatomy studies, your creative process....

did i missed something , i can tell you are
one person one could talk for hours about
drawing stuff .... you have a solid theorical
base and long practical road traveled, good
instincs and the best thing you do is your
dedication :) :) :) :)

Keep this thread alive , its very inspiring
to watch artists like you ......

(i need to start your thread from
the beggining again so many things ,
so many things :D :D :D )
Saludos y Buena Suerte

[ShamansWhisper]

Whats up Lung. This is my first post here, just looked through your whole sketch book and was blown away! You have some serious talent. I'm much older then you and only recently started studying art. I hope someday I can be as dedicated as you. Good work!

PS: Pain of Salvation rocks!!!!!!!!

[obid619]

LUNG we need you man...update :D

[The Bear]

Some people do have lives to live as well you know.

[steak-tron]

I like the new format of the site Lung. I was also glad to see you like Neutral Milk Hotel as they are (were) one of the greatest bands of all time. One of the best kept secrets of the music industry, and maybe it should stay that way...

Anyways I'm listening to Over Avery Island now and thought of your thread. NMH is from my home town o' athens (I once saw Jeff Mangum crossing the street).

Your thread continues to be inspiring, especially to old farts like me (i'm 23). Happy birthday dude, I'll be buying your comics (or whatever you publish/do) for years to come.

-steak :chug:

[The Bear]

Yeah, the site looks cool.

[Calle_]

Amazing sketchbook.

Just wondering if you could tell me how you do that good shading with mechanical pencils.
Tho i prolly use the crappiest paper on the planet i cant really get those nice lines ^^;.

Keep 'em' co'mn

Calle

[Lung_bug]

hey, just wanted to state i'm still alive and kicking and will be posting new stuff as soon as i can find time. right now it's kinda tight, too many things happening!

/chronological (for the most part) replies

bryan: yeah i have them somewhere, i think. might have lost them in the hd crash, but i know i printed them once. will look into that. the sijun ones weren't that tough to compile

diego: the plan was that i study design in the capitol city here. no money to go to a foreign college, so figured i could work freelance through college, learn that way too...

amadorl: figured it out yet? sure, i can do one, as soon as i get some time to breathe

abyss: :)

xia: yes! 13 so rocks! :chug:

hexal: i'd aim at being better than myself, personally. no, wait, i'm already doing that :)

spok: actually i changed it to 86 when you weren't looking BWAHAHAHAH. ;)

murkydreams: aw, now that's too kind... hope you'll think the same way in a few years when you realize i was just a hack that poorly copied some other people heh :chug:

insane visions: that sounds fun, we should do it sometime

xia: :)

amadorl: yeah that would be amazing indeed!

dakoscwash, nor, endregan, obid, jamaludin, karim, angela- thank you :D i feel so loved

maldrin: yeah my gf is the greatest. though i brainwash her with my art talk... she already knows about foster, puddn, wes, manley, android and other peeps. she's also browsin the forum and likes the daily sketcbooks... cato and yiako- she likes your stuff :)

bojee: quoted me? heh. what did you quote?

blindthief: yeah, no wonder there, i'd say. loomis is my yoda

gaboartpage: a bit over a year now! still hard to believe for me. and i'm constantly blown away by the acceptance of chazzwazzers. i'm glad my own work can push someone to pick up the pencil and start drawing, and that always warms my little black heart. thank you for the kind words

shamanswhisper: much older? 20? :) age means little, you know? and yeah, pain of salvation kick ass... unfortunately i associated them to my ex, so it's kinda painful to listen to them now. painful but still beautiful

obid619: :(

the bear: :)

steak-tron: hey, thanks about the site comment. it's still very unfinished (not hard to notice hahah), but i have high hopes for it. NMH is something i recently discovered through a book from a croatian author. didn't listen to 'over avery island' yet, though- i downloaded 'in the aeroplane over the sea' and it still blows me away every time i play it. thanks, man :chug:

the bear: ...just need to get something on it, eh? :)

calle_: good shading with mechanical pencils? that's easy. mecha pencil leads are cylindrical. that means, they have sharp edges when you put them in, and with such sharp edges, it's impossible to do a constistently shaded area. therefore you need to take a separate piece of paper and just doodle randomly on it to wear out those edges. after a while it leaves a rough, smooth mark, and then it's easy to shade with it. you still have to be very careful and light on the arm though. it all comes with practice. getting to know the tools. and it's not about the paper, because most of my sketchbooks are from the worst imaginable paper (i'm using those non-lined notebooks kids use for geometry in school; each costs around 0.25$). use what you got the best way you can.

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to post some art for the sake of it, here's a few pics i did a few weeks back (pencil/pilot g1/copic markers #2 and #8)-

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/ships01.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/ships02.jpg

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/ships03.jpg

ran out of #8 marker on the last one so i had to do the fill in photoshop... bleh























you could've spent this time DRAWING!

[Jeff Gran]

good point. I'm going to start now.

[Calle_]

Oh ok, thanks dude. conuterQ :P what sizes do you use, and are there any particular leads?. =)

I dont think your paper is worse then mine, the one i use is kinda fiber paper that gets torn when you draw on it, especially with Mech pens. therefor you cannot erase without haveing a chaos in that spot + it never gets smooth. its like the god damn rocky mountians >< and it costs like $5 for 50 pages of pure A4 crap!! (sucks to ink on to >_<)

So there is my story =)
Good luck, and hope to see more of your work soon!!
Calle.

[young paddy1]

great stuff, some of the space vehicle sketches look a lot like the stuff I've seen at work done by people waiting for real aircraft models to load, especially number five, looks like the proposed supersonic passenger transport by boeing.

your site looks crisp, and that is a lot of thumbs to have on one page,a good touch in my opion I'm too impatient to wait for other pages to load, I want to see the pictures now. :thumbsup:

[Rimshot]

Lookin good (as usual). Out of curiosity, do you use any perspective tricks to draw the ships (like Feng) or are you just drawing them out of your head using your own perspective instincts?..either way they look great:chug:

[Lung_bug]

500 posts bring a tear to my eye :chug:

jeff gran: that's the spirit

calle: bitching about materials is flossing a dead horse- if you can't do anything about it, get the best you can out of it. not much use in complaining about it. regular photocopy paper is available everywhere and you can do pencils and inks on it

young paddy1: thanks. yeh the site, need to get back on that. tight on time

rimshot: no, i don't use any perspective tricks (even though i should); i just wing it. if i'm working on something more detailed and finished i'll go anal about it, but these were just thumbs, so it was straight off

cheers

here's a short sequential i did in geography class today. each page is a6 in size originally (4''x6''), hence the ugly linework. and i really wasn't aiming for jawdropping art- just wanted to tell the thing. peeps at school liked it, hope you will too:

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/lose01_lrg.gif

http://lungbug.ice.org/stuff/lose02_lrg.gif



cowabunga!