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k4pka
August 17th, 2005, 09:00 AM
Has anyone in England had any success in getting hold of this book? Im tearing my hair out trying >:{ Amazon.com places wont ship to Nottingham, England, and Amazon.co.uk second hands ones are some £200!

Can anyone help?

jrr
August 17th, 2005, 10:34 AM
is he still selling it in his site? check it out, i know he reissued a soft cover version. try that.

loomer
August 17th, 2005, 12:01 PM
Schmiddy book (http://www.richardschmid.com/book.html)
Damn...I bought the hardcover for almost twice the price of the softcover. It's well worth it...good little book

vigostar
August 17th, 2005, 12:14 PM
is that for oil painting???

one2hit
August 17th, 2005, 08:02 PM
buy the richard schmid book if you can. It's so worth it!!

DavePalumbo
August 17th, 2005, 08:11 PM
what, is it out of print? I think you can get it through Bud Plant (http://budplant.com/product.asp?pn=ALLH). $150 is still pricey, but that's really only 75 pounds (damn your economy!) plus shipping.

Main Loop
August 17th, 2005, 11:16 PM
ordering from his website will cost you 28 dollars shipping.. if you get the softcover it will come out to 78 US dollars

winjer
August 17th, 2005, 11:43 PM
His book is all about squinting to see values and edges and making color charts to learn what colors mix what. Also has a chapter on identifying wether the light is cool or warm and make the shadows the opposite. Theres some corny jokes and stuff too. I have just saved you $65. Spend that money on life drawing sessions instead.

DavePalumbo
August 18th, 2005, 01:18 AM
say what you will, I still recomend it to any serious representational painter

|NTeRN
August 18th, 2005, 01:34 AM
His book is all about squinting to see values and edges and making color charts to learn what colors mix what. Also has a chapter on identifying wether the light is cool or warm and make the shadows the opposite. Theres some corny jokes and stuff too. I have just saved you $65. Spend that money on life drawing sessions instead.

ive looked thro it at jetpacks place and i must say i DISAGREE with you 100%. pretty much the best painting book and a very inspiational one at that. im ordering 1 within the next few days

cotron
August 18th, 2005, 01:43 AM
His book is all about squinting to see values and edges and making color charts to learn what colors mix what. Also has a chapter on identifying wether the light is cool or warm and make the shadows the opposite. Theres some corny jokes and stuff too. I have just saved you $65. Spend that money on life drawing sessions instead.

haha sucks to be you, you're missing out by taking this book for granted.

winjer
August 18th, 2005, 01:43 AM
the same shit is in loomis' creative illustration book. for free. Its a scam on impressionable young artists.

DavePalumbo
August 18th, 2005, 02:04 AM
and impressionable old artists too, considering some of the people I've met who also value the book. How is it a scam if people are learning and taking inspiration from it? I'd say it's a pretty fair deal. You've inspired me to go re-read my copy.

one2hit
August 18th, 2005, 11:36 AM
You've inspired me to go re-read my copy.

me too, winjer you inspired me to go read the copy I have here. You're doing a great job de-promoting the book btw.

winjer
August 18th, 2005, 12:39 PM
You guys dont find it a little suspect that the first things on his site are all his little books and dvds? Are the basics of painting that are in his book any different from the ones loomis used? I think people buy his book because its the flashiest one out there with nice glossy pics of his super slick paintings. The basics you can teach are the same no matter what, and there are tons of places online for free that you dont need to waste $60. Some people love wasting money though...

Heres a good thread too. Manley explains lots of stuff about color in a nice and concise manner. The color charts exersice from Schmids book is in that thread somewhere too.

http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=15476&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

John
August 18th, 2005, 01:27 PM
Well i'm interested in the Alla Prima Book, can some of you who have and like it tell me more about the contents? I'd like to know, i plan on getting it when i have the money to spend.

jetpack42
August 18th, 2005, 04:17 PM
How could reading what one of the most skilled painters who ever walked on this planet has to say about how he does art do you wrong?


If you are into painting and you can only buy one book, this should be it. Oh, and there is much more in the book then stuff on color.

Main Loop
August 18th, 2005, 04:56 PM
[QUOTE=jetpack42]one of the most skilled painters who ever walked on this planet QUOTE]


i wouldnt go that far...

but i still think its a good book, somewhat overpriced sure, but it has enough good info and stories to make worth reading just about anytime you're in need of inspiration..

jetpack42
August 18th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I wouldn't say I prefer his paintings over alot of masters, but in terms of technical skills, Draughtsmanship, and a fantastic eye, I'd say schmid is up there with the best of them.




somewhat overpriced sure,

Well, I guess it depends on how you look at it. I know I've paid thousands of dollars to go to school, and I could have saved myself alot of the trouble had I spent less then 100 bucks on this book....bring a blanket, cause Schmid lays it out like that.

emily g
August 18th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Richard Schmid's book is the best book I have read on oil painting.

He doesn't just teach you "color formulas" like "mix burnt umber with viridian green . . . ," he teaches you how to mix colors yourself without the help of a book. He doesn't say "apply small strokes here to give the illusion . . . ," he teaches you how to SEE correctly.

Loomis' info is right on, but he doesn't go into the depth that Schmid does. Plus, it's hard to get good color reproductions of the paintings from his book, since they're out of print (and they're only a few in the book anyway). Schmid's book has tons of beautiful reproductions that illustrate his points.

People are begging for good book suggestions all the time. I would suggest this book over any other oil painting book.

emily