Seattle def. California THUNDERDOME (Big D/L)

[jetpack42]

Here are the results from the Seattle vs California Thunderdome. Each piece will have a number and a letter for easy judging.

Judges will be:
-Joachim
-gaboartpage
-mcotie
-sparth
-wes9000

Judging will take place on Thursday (One last chance for the tardy), and once I have recieved the results from al the judges, I will post the final score.

Please PM me if any of the matches have the wrong subjects, I'm going on what I was e-mailed...

The matches are listed loosely on the order they were sent. The images are not listed in the order that the names are (the person from Seattle is always named first, the challenger second) but the images are in a random order for easier impartial judging.

I'm not home for days at a time, sometimes, so if we are waiting for your submission, be patient with me please. I will post as soon as I recieve.


Without further ado.
I will put a * next to the winners names.


(not judged) Oregano vs otis "Character: The Mayor of Happiness who oversees an industrial wasteland
dedicated to mind-numbing production. He's ultimately overthrown by beauty.
Medium: Open."

Oregano
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Oregano.jpg

otis
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_otis.jpg


Sok N Wett vs |ntern "Heroes of the Axis & Allied Powers"

Sok*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Sok.jpg

|ntern
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Intern1.jpg
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Intern2.jpg



Dougbot vs Inspector Lee "A prospector on a distant asteroid."

Inspector Lee
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_inspectorlee.jpg

Dougbot*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Dougbot.jpg



eliWolff vs LadyLioness "Robotic Horse"

LadyLioness
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_LadyLioness.jpg

eliWolff*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_eliWolff.jpg




Redehlert vs Alger Langdon "Create a creepy child. The creepier the better."

Redehlert
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_redehlert.jpg

AlgerLangdon*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_AlgerLangdon.jpg




nova vs Groover Mcnab "self-portrait"

Groover
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_groovermcnab.jpg

nova*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_nova.jpg



jetpack42 vs Grinn "midievil cowboy"

grinn
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_grinn.jpg

jetpack42*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_jetpack42.jpg



nardfrog vs phil holland "demonic biomechianical humans"

Phil Holland
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_philholland.jpg

nardfrog*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_nardfrog.jpg



Michael78 vs Sinix "Near-future driver/pilot (for a racing vehicle) [in pen and/or pencil]"

Michael78*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Michael78.jpg

Sinix
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Sinix.jpg



Bojee vs stephen "a frightening/evil/scary/type of illustration"

Bojee
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Bojee.jpg

stephen*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_stephen.jpg



flaptraps vs Chaotic Logik "radio controlled machine flesh"

Chaotic Logik
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_CHAOTICLOGIK.jpg

flaptraps*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_flaptraps.jpg



prostate sunrise vs el coro "a mothers love"

el coro*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_elcoro.jpg

prostate sunrise
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_prostatesunrise.jpg

[jetpack42]

Stokes vs teyenkanik "Double Dragon"

Stokes
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Stokes.jpg

teyekanik*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_teyekanik.jpg



silverslash vs i.was.ink "Primitive figure with advanced technology"

I.was.ink
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Iwasink.jpg




David York vs Dished "Centaur Warrior" ?

Dished
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Dished.jpg

David York*
http://www.acm.wwu.edu/~daveman/Sketchbook/David_York_Thunderdome.jpg



Undertow vs Phuzion "Sniper (male), Spy (female), Thief (Non-human)"

Phuzion
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Phuzion.jpg



Sapphire vs mos667 "Prehistoric VS Futuristic"

Sapphire
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Sapphire.jpg

mos667
http://redwolf.com/kyle/sketchbook/4.jpg



Ben Mauro vs dns2k 'ancient or futuristic human/machine hybrid in everyday scenario'

Ben Mauro*
http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_Ben.jpg

dns2k
http://img68.exs.cx/img68/3368/dnsTD.jpg




A big thanks to all the participants. 2nd successful thunderdome in a row!

If you're in Eastern Europe and you want to get your thunderdome on, Go here
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30272


As far as my image goes...I heavily referenced NC Wyeth. (gotta give the credit where its due).

Thanks also to the judges!

I <3 Thunderdomes!

[nova]

coro: ok, i'm never having children :$
groover: you win :)


so many pieces, can't wait til thursday!

[OLSEN]

So much good stuff in one thread! Good luck to all. :hatsoff:

[gasmask]

best piece you ever did kekai, great work everyone

[lowpolymatt]

Some SERIOUSLY fantastic work here guys! Pat yourselves on the back!!

Well done to all, looks like a great competition was had by all....

:star: :star: :star: :star: :star:
Matt

[Aly Fell]

Wow! There's some excellent and to be honest, pretty distubing imagery here!

Bojee... I'm scared! :)

:hatsoff: to all! Congratulations!

[cuzzo]

yea real disturbing stuff.... great execution tho... ya'll are really talented! :^^:

[fukifino]

:bow: :bow: Way to step up, California, and way to stick it to 'em, Seattle! Some top notch images here!

[S.C. Watson]

Damn, guys. Seriously good work all the way around!

Cheers,
~Oreg.

[Bojee]

Wow, what a great way to wake up. :rendered: Awesome work people!! Real twisted....I like. Been trying to write a response but I'm still looking at everything.Seeing everyones work makes me wish I had pushed it so much further. OK...

Stephen- great painting

Sok N Wet- Nice piece, one of the best I've seen from you

Eli Wolfe- Turned out great man.

Redehlert and Alger- tough Competition

Nova & Groover- That ones tough, great job!

Chaotic Logiks- I love the texture in your painting, one of the things I miss going from traditional to digital.

Coro- Your a sick puppy :rendered: I love it, reminds me of purgatory or hell with all these swarming bodies

Prostrate Sunrise- Kekai nice piece dude! I knew you'd rise to the occasion.

Epic battles everyone! The judges are going to have a hard time!! Excuse me if I left out anyone but I'm a sloooow typist.

Poshspice- Thank you, if I only had your rendering skills!, But I'm learning. Have you turned in your piece?? Kick some ass dude! :rendered: :rendered: :rendered: :party: :party: :party: :party:

[redehlert]

Whew! Alger Langdon -- nicely done, hoss. You are a very talented competitor!
Everyone -- stellar job!!
Best of luck to all.
Felt good to keep myself on a short leash with the amount of time I would dedicate to this. These things get faster with repitition. Let's keep these Tdomes goin' on, mkay?
Cheers!
D :teeth:

[Groover McNab]

Great job all.

nova - Thanks, hehe, but I don't know about all that. Great piece, those eyes are gonna haunt me <3

[Molly]

OMG!

Theres some cool entrys here!
nova vs groooooover!macnab (I love that name) so cool, both of yers, I like em very much:)

coro - man, sick, but cool. Like nova says- I aint havin kids either!!

Really cool work and ideas. I will be posting the UK vs Dallas stuff later on today, so lookin forward to it!

Well done everyone!

Mollyx

[bRyaN]

Fantastic work everybody....

This is shaping up to be a good battle...

[otis]

Nice work everyone. But, DAAAAAAMMMM! Coro and Prostate, you must have disturbing nightmares! My stomach was turning when I saw your subject.
I know that was your intention,.. congrats. I never want to have kids.

[Skank]

coro has done us a public service to help prevent overpopulation :nohope:
amazing stuff people, ill be browsing this thread for a while

good work!!!

(imma have nightmares man.... <3 )

[Matt Smith]

Great work everyone <3 . Coro definately takes the cake as most disturbed ;) . I hope new york state gets challenged next, I want to participate in the fun and get my creative juices flowing. Good luck to everyone.

[nardfrog]

w00t!!!!!!!! sick work guys. ALthough im a little dissapointed how many entrys are not in, epsecialy from seattle.

btw jetpack, its kinda confusing that you have the seattle vs cali names, but the first picture is cali and the second is seattle. KNow what i mean? its like A vs B and then you show B first, and then A.

[PhilHolland]

Gah! This turned out really nice. I'm gonna look through these closer at lunch, but damn. Good stuff. Thanks Nardfrog for tdome'ing it up with me.

Phil

[Phuzion]

C'mon slackers! Get 'em in!

So much great work to be had here. El Coro you sick man :party:

Good stuff everyone! It's a blast looking through all of these. Now I gotta get work done, but you can bet I'll be back later to scope some more. Kick ass job people!

-Daniel

[nardfrog]

werd up phil, thanks for giving me a challenge i needed!!!!!

[mos667]

I'm terribly sorry, but I won't be able to get mine in, I have no excuse :nohope:

[Sapphire]

Way to go, everybody! I finally got my internet working, just in time to see the list of entries this morning. El Coro's reminds me of these horrible characters in a book I read, and I think Prostate's giving him a run for his money in the hideously creepy factor. Those creepy children aren't much better, either. ;) Geh..

mos667, if you can't make it, that's all right, I understand... maybe there could be a day or two extention for you or something, if you still wanted to give it a shot. I'd love to see yours done.

Yey art! :perv:

[liquidwerx]

Coro wins.

Have some other favorites too... Great contest, looks like it was lots of fun for all who participated. :)

~Malachi

[Sok N. Wett]

Note to self: Learn coloring and master Kekai's process, then learn El Coro's technique and draw outrageous, ludicrious, misguided thoughts, to disturb the normal society......excellent.....

Great job everyone, for those who busted their ass on getting it on time, congrats.

INTERN: Thanks for taking me on man, it really helped me to push my lazy ass to draw, good job on getting your drawings on time.

Grinn: Nice, damn I could of told you a tutorial on a website that teaches you how to draw a horse, then you wouldn't have to take all those time researching it.

Jetpack: Good job, you da the man!

Nova: I get lost in those eyes....coolness

Groover Mcnab: Hmmm, Can't figure out which one is your SP the robot or the guy with the sword..... :}

Sapphire: Woohoo you won! Mos667 was too scarred to take you on (j/k)....that's 2-0 for you, congrats.

Bojee: Thanks for the comment, scary picture yo, made me wet my paints...oh nm it was just coke that spilt on me.

Stephen: Nice and Dark...me likes

Phuzion: Man I love that cel shading style you got going for the color, make it seem like they are from an animation, now why don't American cartoons look like that...

Dougbot: Damn forizzle shizzle, dizzle with a sprinkle of coolnizzle, that's awesome....the colors oh the colors.

Inspector Lee: Nice work, love the robot.

EliWolff: OHHHHH nice!

LadyLioness: Amazing job

Flaptraps & Chaotic Logik: Damn you guys rock, that's a hard one.

Redehlert vs Alger Langdon: Freaky, I couldn't stop watching my back once every 5 minutes because of some noise.

Michael78 vs Sinix : Mike love that suit design, Sinix great job dude.

Ben Mauro: I'm glad you finish something, great work, Robots eat fruit??, well maybe yours do.

nardfrog vs phil holland: Shit dude, I need to learn coloring to get as good as you two.

i.was.ink : Like the Mcdonald's slogan, "I'm Lovin' It"

Dished: good work man, I don't know you, but who cares, i'm loving this T-dome thang.

Oregano vs otis: That's a hard one, I love em both, but the uglier the better right...

If I'm missing anyone it's probably because you didn't send in your work yet, and I'm anxiously waiting for them, so get them crackin'

[one2hit]

the coro pic is great. The composition is easy, and has a deffinate vertical flow to it, plus the story that goes along with it is great. The mother giving all of her resources to her kids in agony out of motherly love...buahahaha.

What's up with that kid poking her vagina though? O_o

[one2hit]

ok that's it! The next thunderdome that goes down I want in. *grumbles for sitting this one out*

[nardfrog]

What's up with that kid poking her vagina though? O_o


dude you're talking about coro, the guy who draws faries sticking cat tails in other faries' asses and teletubies raping ppl with dildos..... it surprises you? :confident

[Sinix]

The contest really came together nicely, lots of great matchups. Someone make el coro and prostate have a matchup every week.. that's killer stuff. Actually flaptraps might be my personal favorite for the thunderdome.. love the old school joystick, it'd look cool on my wall.. absolutely great job on that. :teeth:

Heh, michael, looks like we both went for the same pose.. I was almost gonna do the cockpit view too, have that metal arm gripping a wheel or yoke or something. Cool idea with the costume. :cheerleader:

[Ben Mauro]

you better one2hit!

[Dougbot]

Great work by everyone. Gotta' say my top three (not in any order) are Prostrate's, Flaps and Stephen's (I'm sort of biased though). Truly awesome work.

[JeffZNY]

wow, i haven't explored this site enough. i was completely oblivious to these Thunderdomes until yesterday! this is the best thing ever, I want in! Talk about great motivation! Come on, New Yorkers/ East Coasters, let's get in on this shit!

[flex mathews]

holy shit, coro and prostrate, those entries completely blew me away. i can look at those all day.

[auden100]

Excellent submissions. Especially to Coro and Prostate. You're pieces threw me into such a state of catatonic awe, I'm currently curled into a fetal position sucking on a pillow corner. Just came out of it long enough to give props.

[USER777]

wow!!! great stuff here, guys!
i hope someday i will be able to participate in one of those thunderdomes..
coro.. your work is just kick ass.. the kid eating this flesh string comin out of the mother just creeped the hell outta me, dude!
good work!

Lim

[Sok N. Wett]

That's the embolical cord (if you didn't know, if you do then disregard this message), that's how you get your belly button. Good thing the subject wasn't a fathers love, that would be so twisted.

[Michael78]

WHOA too much cool shizzilnizzle to look at! and I agree that El Coro's piece is off the charts! Amazing that its so beautiful, and disturbing in the same space. Im in awe.

Prostrate Sunrise- my 2nd favorite.. amazing style.. The chicks doo is great!

flaptraps vs Chaotic Logik- these are both great.. I like how they focus on the "controller".

Sok N Wett- NICE! The best work ive seen of yours.

Sinix- yeah the poses seem like standard driver poses :) I couldnt think of anything better. nice line style on yours.. and the chick is sexy :confident

everyone else cool work, I look forward to the next t-dome :O

[nardfrog]

Hey el coro, where is the rest of the baby that has his arm around the moms neck on the right side? I see his head and arms, but no torso or legs.....

[el coro]

HAHAHAH! GREAT entries you guys! some of you really poured your hearts into these, and i applaud you for that. as for mine, well, its good to exorcise those demons occaisionally. i think thats one of the best things about art, is that you can draw ANYTHING :)
Nardfrog: haha you only caught that one? i omitted all kinds of body parts to help the flow of the piece more, particularly on the right side, where the movement first begins. i had all the bodies drawn out, but i felt certain things were distracting, so i just cheaped it.i have a hard enough time composing 2-3 characters, but 14 proved to be quite a challenge for an afternoon :)
again, GREAT ENTRIES GUYS!!!!-c36

[nardfrog]

I thought you may have left it out to help define the womans body, like you said, it would have been too distracting. I didnt really notice anywhere else. except that other baby below on the right...

[Dished]

Dished: good work man, I don't know you, but who cares, i'm loving this T-dome thang.
Thanks dude! Same here! Tdomes are funnnnnn!!
Btw, whos master kekai??

COOL PICS PEOPLE!!! I could spend a looong time looking at the other entries!!! Which i started doing and was doing for probably more than 15 minutes heheehe.

[Sok N. Wett]

Master Kekai is Prostate Sunrise my young padawan........I keep coming back to this thread every 30 minutes or so I don't know why, but I think I've been affected with the T-dome virus or something of that nature.

[|NTeRN]

i just want to say sorry for turning in crap :sadcheerleader: i just didn have the time to do what i wanted. i know that no excuse but i still feel like crap for turning in what i did :(

[Dished]

Master Kekai is Prostate Sunrise my young padawan........I keep coming back to this thread every 30 minutes or so I don't know why, but I think I've been affected with the T-dome virus or something of that nature.

Ah haha thanks dude. I do that too! Not literally every 30 minutes but a few times in an hour i stop by and oogle at some cool sketchbook threads.

[Sok N. Wett]

Don't worry about it lNTERN, at least you turned yours in, we are still waiting for others, you took the initiative to do your part, and that's deemed respectable. This was a good learning experience for me and everyone else. This was to have fun, and it succeeded in that part, regardless of who's winning or losing, we're still going to challenge another state or country, and everyone wins because they gain something out of it. Good job on your piece man I love that nazi guy with the facemask. Even after this thunderdome you'll have many more challenges, and good luck on that, and progress as an artist, that's the key to success.......Damn I feel like Tony Roberts giving a life seminar.

[Alger Langdon]

Good stuff Redehlert, did u pass ur review? thanx for the kind werds.

Kool shit Chaotic logic.

Good luck everyone else. Once again its gonna be tough decision for the judges... I think the winners should be allowed a free pass for one day at the SF workshop, atleast for the kids that are gonna be in the area at that time. hint, hint, wink, wink.:bashful:


Westsiiiiiide.....

[Sok N. Wett]

Man that would be so awesome just to get a free ticket for one day. Yes my post count is rising.......

[Main Loop]

wow.. lots of good entries, but wow @ coro and prostate.. i think i like prostate's more as a piece of art.. great stuff...

wish i got in it.. maybe for round 2??

round 2?? hehe how bout it?

[one2hit]

dude you're talking about coro, the guy who draws faries sticking cat tails in other faries' asses and teletubies raping ppl with dildos..... it surprises you? :confident


oh..well, I've never really...seen those ones. I don't think. I mean, I just was wondering if it was, like a random decision, or if there was some thought process behind it, 'cause the kid just seems like he's poking it going "hrmmm what's in here?" *shrug*


you better one2hit!

oh, I will. And I will rip the TP right off their asses. O_o Although, I don't anticipate another thunderdome in the next month, I'll set aside time to do it whenever it rolls around.

[el coro]

one2hit: hehe...my reputation preceeds me i see :) yes, all the placement of the children were concious descisions. they are all doing something...the one you pointed out, at first i had him fisting her, but felt that might be too much and went with a more innocent, childlike poke instead. but he's there more to help the composition, and fill that space between her legs :)-c36

[nardfrog]

oh man el coro, i wish we could hang out - the ridiculousnes that would ensue...

did you kinda very loosely base your picture on some old painting (imgunna go look for it and its name right now)

[|NTeRN]

El_Coro, you my man, are one sick individual. <3 <3


haha i love the piece.

[benzo]

wow, this is a great turnout! These contests are proving to be good improving grounds, some of you have really stepped up. Very inspiring! keep it up with a next one

[prostate sunrise]

hey great work from everyone! these are fun when everyone joins in for the fun.

mad props to coro for pullng that shit down hardcore! to good bro.

[jetpack42]

so how many of you are going on tour with el coro and the ribwich?

[teyekanik]

I just wanted to be the first one to rip on myself for biting Capcom style in my pic.. I thought Double dragon was from capcom originally but I think it was acclaim . .. . oh well.. damn.. I am stunned by alot of entries..

Stokes - Not bad man, Action is pretty tough . . Where's billy in yours man?.. I had a hard time with this one.. I hate my lame colors.. worked on it for 2.5 hours only though.. hehe.. I'm a slacker. . .

El-coro- That is disgusting... seriously. Great details in the children.. I think it would have an even more disturbing effect if her face wore a more distressed expression..
Prostate sunrise- Nice work.. looks real dark and brooding.. The only thing is I would want to see like a whole sea of her "children behind her" . . Like a dark army... other than that.. great.

flaptraps vs Chaotic Logik- props on those..
Not enough time right now to comment on the great entries so far... but this was alot of fun and I will be more prepared next time! See you at the workshop all!

[JeffZNY]

I'm not even fucking kidding. where are the new yorkers on this site? If I don't get in on this I will burst. i'm talking big time bubble gum all over your face man, no joking.

[jetpack42]

I'm not even fucking kidding. where are the new yorkers on this site? If I don't get in on this I will burst. i'm talking big time bubble gum all over your face man, no joking.

I've been mulling over an East vs West thunderdome next...

[lowpolymatt]

East 'world' vs West 'world'....or just the US? ;)

[jetpack42]

just the US. but I'm thinking...they're getting an Easter Europe TD going in the lounge. We could get the rest of the US involved, and the UK could get another portion of the world active...and then after that, we could do

USA vs The World (dun dun dunnnnnnnnn)

thats just where my brainstorming has taken me.

for now though, We must do portraits for our gallery show!

[lowpolymatt]

You'll never defeat US!!!!!! (us...not THE U.S.) We will unite in a ......ok....I'll get my coat....


Oh and you're on!

[teyekanik]

hey phuzion.. those are some sweet character designs.. good work!

[sketchling]

Hey... WAY cool entries. Have to say that 1B, 11b, 17a are definite favorites... man 17a is funny. Very cool take on the topic! Lets hope the UK vs Dallas matches up...
:^^;:

[dr01d]

11 B + 12 B are Insane! some seriously cool styff here, 1 or 2 that need a bit of attention, but the overall quality is right up there! :confident

[Phuzion]

Teyekanik: Thanks man, it was a blast doing this! I should've made the characters a little larger I guess, cause there's some detail that was lost I think in such a small version... so here's a link to the larger version of the Trio (http://www.savagesunarts.com/Post/TD_PhuzionBig.jpg)

Anywho, great great turnout everyone! Also, Jetpack I was thinking the same thing! West Coast vs. East Coast!! Hip-hop style mang! So count me in on that one. I don't even care about the outcome (in terms of winners and LOSERS!) I just like the process >:D Okay, peace out everypersons!

-Daniel

[JeffZNY]

Sorry about the outburst last night...I was drunk...but serious.

[redehlert]

Wasnt that five of pentacles thing made for an eatpoo tarot card?
Wazzit? I dunno nuttin bout no eat dookie.
Actually, I was reviewing some Dave McKean works and thought of Tarot cards and then went online and researched a tarot card that would best emulate what my creepy child was doing/expressing. There is one guy's work that I have on my desktop screen and I wish I knew who it was. Here's a link to the work I am talking about: Five of Pentacles (http://www.cognitionstudio/conceptart/fiveofpent_cc2.jpg) . The work is so damn slick and I want to see more works. Anyone think they can help?
Peace!
d :blahblah:

[one2hit]

I've been mulling over an East vs West thunderdome next...

ha! that would be a pretty cool idea, but...do we have enough people on the east side? O_o maybe we could do like, America vs the rest of the world...hrmmm maybe that would be too weird though.

[bwkeough]

hey, I'm so East Coast I can take a pic of Atlantic saltwater in my back-damn-yard!

I'm also primed for and Eastside v. Westside t-dome.

Super excellent entries in this match guys, you should all be proud!

[nardfrog]

very similar. ona random note the 3d one resembles an owl. Im sure that is what that artist was going for.

I encourage ppl to come up with original ideas for thunder dome.
the more I look at this the more the more similarities i see. :nohope: :( :nohope:

[Michael78]

I agree..... :nohope: >:| :traced: :nohope:

[Phuzion]

You know what though, I bet if you looked, you could find any number of pictures that look a lot like this. They're not simillar enough to say that it's copied or anything, just simillar enough to say it's not very unique. But C'mon, "fat creepy business man wants to rule the world" how the hell would YOU paint him? Probably just like that. So don't even worry about it.
Schlo-mo, you seem to like the idea of exposing someone as a fraud... No offence to you man, but bringing up the eat-poo thing, now this... let it go. We're all learning, and things sneak into our subconscious all the time, there's nothing to do for it. It's not using someone else's art, it's not painting over someone else's art, so who cares? Just breeeeeeathe... be content :ninja++: <<< Be a Zen master and just let it all go :confident

[lowpolymatt]

You know what though, I bet if you looked, you could find any number of pictures that look a lot like this. They're not simillar enough to say that it's copied or anything, just simillar enough to say it's not very unique. But C'mon, "fat creepy business man wants to rule the world" how the hell would YOU paint him? Probably just like that. So don't even worry about it. Schlo-mo seems to like the idea of exposing someone as a fraud... No offence to you man, but bringing up the eat-poo thing, now this... let it go. We're all learning, and things sneak into our subconscious all the time, there's nothing to do for it. It's not using someone else's art, it's not painting over someone else's art, so who cares? Just breeeeeeathe... be content :ninja++: <<< Be a Zen master and just let it all go :confident

I have to agree with Phuzion on this...even if it's a copy...the painting is still very good....my only thought about it not being 'fair' or whatever is that 'the idea' of a businessman...'the concept' of it comes a lot from the 3d image. IF it was taken from that....then the painting should be judged as a 'painting' and not as a 'concept'....if you see what I mean. If you ask me, an equal part should be paid to both the quality of the art and the quality of the 'concept' behind the art. So if a lot of that concept comes from another piece of art...well then I can understand why something like this could be an issue...

All in all though...it's still a great painting.

BTW, Phuzion...nice work....checked out your sketches too...very nice.

[Sok N. Wett]

Wow, I always though creepy old business men look like that, any fat guy with a suit is always gonna look similiar to those two, look at Penguin from the Batman movie. Oh when will the voting begin.......tick tock tick tock.

[redehlert]

Hey Schlo-mo,

Would you do me a favor and show me which eatpoo image mine looks similar to? Just curious. Thanks!
D

[redehlert]

Good stuff Redehlert, did u pass ur review? thanx for the kind werds.
Westsiiiiiide.....

Hey Alger,
Thanks!
No wurd yet....can take up to 3 months. :bashful:
Cheers!
D

[Michael78]

looks like Schlo-mo deleted his post?? I just want to throw my oppinion in here.. cause other people were dogging on schlo-mo... the piece looked like a copy to me. Even the highlights were in the same spot. I spent 10-15 hrs doing research and design sketches for my T-dome piece. I would expect others competing to ALSO do some type of "conceptual" work for their piece. Isnt that what this forum is for? Also if it was just a study or practice painting then yeah cool post it. But NOT for a comp... Anywhoo not wanting to ruffle anyones feathers but I think schlo-mo was doing the right thing.

just my 2 cents their sticking up for schlo-mo... hope we have many more AWESOME Thunderdomes!

[nardfrog]

michael: amen.

[redehlert]

I concur...way too many coincidentals there. How about if the artist that did the work gives up the 411 on this piece in relation to the 3D version?
Cheers!
D

[Bojee]

I agree with you guys if it is a copy and it's too bad if it is, I actually like otis's version better and if it's a take off I think he enhanced it.

I think it's between Otis and Oregano and the judges and I haven't heard any of them comment on it yet so let's just wait and see.

There's a lot of great stuff happening in this competion we could be focusing on instead and I'd rather not see this overshadow that stuff. :bashful: :)

Edit: Just reading back, Lowpolymatt said a lot of this better than I did.....I agree. ;)

[Phuzion]

UNDERTOW!: You should at least post what you have so far. It looks killer and I want others to see it. Unless you actually have the time to finish it. Seriously though, what I saw looked great... givin' me a run for my money you punk! Heh heh; hellz yes. Thank you sir, may I have another!!

[Bojee]

No Doubt, get that shit up! And that goes for anyone else who hasn't posted yet!! :) :) :) :)

[JeffZNY]

well I guess I missed this 3D picture that everyone's talking about. can someone post the link again?

[S.C. Watson]

http://www.mlentz.com/TDC_otis.jpg

http://www.cgnetworks.com/galleryimages/26174/earlbird_medium.jpg

[|NTeRN]

:sadcheerleader:

[JeffZNY]

Wowzers...there's really no disputing that, huh? Obviously, the 3D pic was used as a reference. I don't know if I'd get overly worked up about it though. Otis's painting is still excellent, and he altered the design and made it somewhat his own. Clearly this won't fly in the future though. I can relate to being overly reliant on photo references, but this just seems too close to not attribute credit where credit is due.

[Phuzion]

Well... I guess Otis will have to at least say something in his defence... But I still think his worst crime is unoriginality. ANYWAY!! JUDGING!!

How long are we postponing this for? Just curious. Also, who are we Cali guys battling next? Or are we going West vs. East? No harm in organizing it now right? :bashful:
I just need an excuse to draw outside of work... or at least a theme. Also I was thinking it might be fun to do it kinda traditional Thunder Dome style with one theme... though I'm not sure how it would work with teams. Perhaps we could do it with themes within a certain genre or something, I dunno. Just throwing shit out there. :blahblah:

[grinn]

i dont know, i was thinking about these thunderdomes..and i kind of thought it would be cool to kind of..set up teams...like...a gang or something..that fights other gangs...who needs this location stuff?

oh i know the word..the horrible horrible word! crew! we could have all like...crews of 5...that battle other crews...etc...that way they can get advice and feedback from each other..and shit like that. i dont know..i think it would be fun.

[sodomizer]

elcoro... pure genius.. THATS FUCKEN AWESOME!!!!!!111one one
GREAT effFFFFing JOB!! :)

[gallon]

cool idea Grinn !

[David York]

So, I guess I loose 2 million points or perhaps forfeit and die since mine is so late (PM to Jetpack and post on the other T-dome thread before EOD Thurs). It is here: David York's - Thunderdome (http://www.acm.wwu.edu/~daveman/Sketchbook/David_York_Thunderdome.jpg) .

Thank you Dished for your patience.

[David York]

So much fantastic work!!! AMAZING!!! Nice job everybody. prostate sunrise, prospector with the old man (Dougbot?), Sok, life-alteringly inspirational work. Awesome. Prostate, I love yours so much I want to eat it. Your entry, not your prostate.

[Skureal]

Nice, my favorite is the Space-Gold-Digger. Really funny, good idea and drawed with great painting skillz. :}

[dns2k]

just so everyone knows i have emailed my submission in... i got delayed with the realworld, plus scanning pix is never fun for me... i have like 40 for my sketchbook thread i have to put up... so JP check yer email.

-dns

[jetpack42]

looks like Schlo-mo deleted his post?? I just want to throw my oppinion in here.. cause other people were dogging on schlo-mo... the piece looked like a copy to me. Even the highlights were in the same spot. I spent 10-15 hrs doing research and design sketches for my T-dome piece. I would expect others competing to ALSO do some type of "conceptual" work for their piece. Isnt that what this forum is for? Also if it was just a study or practice painting then yeah cool post it. But NOT for a comp... Anywhoo not wanting to ruffle anyones feathers but I think schlo-mo was doing the right thing.

just my 2 cents their sticking up for schlo-mo... hope we have many more AWESOME Thunderdomes!


As the Thunderdome King, let me throw in my 2 cents. The purpose of the 2 thunderdomes I have organized is as follows, in order of importance:

1-motivate people to push themselves further, in new directions, and harder then they have before.
2-motivate people to do a piece of art that is of portfolio quality.
3-see 1 and 2.

Honestly, I don't care if the piece in question (or any pieces ever or going to be turned in) are copied, traced, or whatever. The contest is secondary, and a means to an end. If artists are "cheating" on thier submissions, really, they are cheating themselves. These are all about working hard, having fun, and doing some quality art. If you're not doing that...you're the one who loses regardless of the score.

Interesting how you all have condemned otis before he's even said anything in his own defense. I've sent him a PM on the subject several days ago after getting several PMs about it myself. I'll let him tell it in his own words, but he basically said he just painted what he thought fit the subject.

You guys should take alot more care before trying to sully somebodys good name...but the point is; Doesn't matter. 1) you can't prove it. 2) the contest is just for fun anyhow. 3) his match is only worth 1 point, so nobody can screw the overall results very much. 4) otis is the real loser here, regardless of wether he did anything wrong or not. he shouldn't use his piece as a portfolio piece now even if it was a totally original idea that just came out the same. not to mention, he's got a tarnished reputation from something that is impossible for any of you to prove. When does something become too similar? I don't disagree they look very similar...but the only person he can really hurt is himself, and why would a professional do something like that? His avatar is badass, so is the work on his site...why would he copy people?

If you prove to be a bad dancer, you're left on the side when the next song comes around.

I hope you guys can all just chill and draw harder next time.

and schlo-mo; back up, dude. I don't know if you were inferring redehlert was copying or whatever (things don't always come across right on the net), but I know this dude and he puts alot of effort into his work (and he's a damn nice guy, to boot). Either way, be careful what you type when people could infer you are talking shit.

[Schlo-mo]

I dont think you should tell me to backup when you didnt even know what I said.
I deleted the posts to stop this, which has resulted in a alternate effect.
I didnt accuse him of copying tracing or anything of the like, I just asked if it was done for the eatpoo tarot contest.. which it probably wasnt - No harm, or malice intended.
I respect both these artists way to much to start any sh*t, the reasoning behind my deleting of the posts. Thanks for riling it all up, buddy.

[Dennal Floss]

Wow!!
I stopped for 5 min. and stared in awe at the mother's love theme. Both entries are disturbing and depict an unconditional abandon and desperation that a mother can express when dealing with her children..... you two really impressed me with this one...the interpretation of the theme is very powerfull, nevermind the technique ( I cried damn you...like a sissy).

And I was wondering, while reading this "copycat" topic posted here.
Aren't some of you guys concept artists for 3D works and similar designs ??
I just think that everybody was reaally quick with their triggerfinger and never wondered if the chicken came before the egg...get it ??

I don't know what the real situation is but I appreciate Jetpack's mature grasp of the issue and I'm looking forward to future TD's

Beautiful work everybody

[redehlert]

Hey Schlo-mo - Thank you for clarifying, friend. I would love to see the tarot cards on eatpoo's site. Would you be able to locate that link for me? I have never done tarot cards before and they simply intrigue me. And thank you for respecting my work...

JP42 - Thanks for your comment, as well. And my apologies for jumping the gun on seeing way too much similarity between the 2 works.
It's true, you only cheat yourself if you do 'original' work that was actually a copy of someone's work. It comes back to haunt you.
I'm pretty tough on this as a medical illustrator. I'm constantly aware of copyright infringement and copycats based on time in this field and this story here: I did a piece in grad school and was pulled aside by a vehement instructor re: plagiarism. He asked me if I had ever heard of a particular illustrator and when I said "No, why?" he openly accussed me of copying this artist's work verbatim. When shown the work, I was in awe. He had every right to challenge me, but I had neither heard of the artist nor seen the work before. He obviously registered my awe as genuine and chalked it up to coincidence, grunted an apology for ripping my head off and shitting down my neck and said okay. From then on, I have a heightened sense of awareness of fellow medical illustrators and protecting my intellectual property as well as not getting shat on again. Long story. :bashful:
Cheers!
D

[jetpack42]

I dont think you should tell me to backup when you didnt even know what I said.
I deleted the posts to stop this, which has resulted in a alternate effect.
I didnt accuse him of copying tracing or anything of the like, I just asked if it was done for the eatpoo tarot contest.. which it probably wasnt - No harm, or malice intended.
I respect both these artists way to much to start any sh*t, the reasoning behind my deleting of the posts. Thanks for riling it all up, buddy.

First off, in reference to redehlert's post, I did see what you said. I told you, everything doesn't come across on the net, and I felt the implication was that Dave was taking ideas from eatpoo or whatever. You say you didn't mean any harm, so it's cool then, just got lost in translation.

A couple professionals PMed me about the coincidence (of otis' work) on the first day the thread was posted. THAT is the right way to go about things. Either that, or PM otis himself if you've got a question. Posting that shit in here (and also, the way you posted it) just causes everyone to go bananas with a mob mentality of stringing him up a tree before he's even said anything in his own defense. I hardly see how bringing this up in a public forum is showing the respect for the artist you claim to have. How am I riling it all up?

Did you think for a moment to look at things from my side? I spend many hours organizing, PMing, updating, compiling, and posting all of this stuff to make things run smoothly. I want lots of people to participate, draw better, and have a good time. I don't want to be responsible for doing detective work on people's pieces, accusing people, disqualifying people or anything like that because it's MISSING THE POINT ANYWAYS. (Feel free to re-read my previous post on what the point of thunderdomes is; why I organize them).

If anybody has anything to say, you can PM otis. Hopefully he'll stop on in and give his side of the story to resolve this issue that shouldn't have come up in the first place.

Did I mention that bringing this up in the thread adds alot of negative attention to a perticular piece(s) and takes away alot of positive attention that should be going to the other 30+ entries?

If anybody has any issues further about this, or any other thunderdome in the future, please PM myself, the organizers, or the artists involved.

I'd like to apologize to both otis and oregano, this situation isn't fair for either of them.

by the way, did everyone miss the 35 or so awesome pieces of artwork at the beginning of this post?

Thunderdome On!

[Bojee]

JP42- If I didn't say it before I'm I'm saying it now thanks for putting this together, there's some great stuff that's come out of it. I'm definitely just doing it to get better, the competition's just there to get me to try harder. Thanks Dude. :bashful:

[gasmask]

yeah cut the crap people, focus on the art

[Sapphire]

Jetpack, you rock. Like people have said before me, thanks so much for putting time and effort aside for this contest. It benefits everybody involved, and I love participating.

David York: You've improved so much! I'm very impressed, way to go! Keep at it.

mos667: even though you're not done, can you post what you've got? I'd like to see..

[Bojee]

Hey sapphire, your piece was great, made me laugh. :)

David- Glad your turned something in, man your ambitious. :)

[inspector Lee]

Yeah thanks Jetpack, I had a blast, and I'm droolin' for the next one.

[Sok N. Wett]

I'm 23 male single and likes long walk on the beach, and an intelligent conversions........hold up this is the wrong forum..

Anyways great stuff all around and a big 7up Yours to Jetpack, the MC, and underground king that hasn't been crown.

It started as an idea, then involved into something more, now it's the biggest thing to do here in conceptart.org, I think you should of won at least one of the category for the Conceptart.org Awards, you helped out so much.

Oh Cali just to let you guys know, we had Jetpack first.....:P

[Sapphire]

Thanks, bojee! I was going for cheese... ;)

I'll get to see you tonight too hopefully! Dave's truckin' us down for the Sketch Night. :D

[stephen]

hey, nice work everyone. hope to do it again sometime :)

[Dished]

Jetpack42 :
Heard this tons of times before but, THANKS SOO MUCH!!! Thunderdomes are really fun!! Like you said, it gets the artist to work harder!! Looking forward to future t-domes!

[Blitz]

Excelent work guys
Of course ill go for the ol Seattle team since im from up here myself
wish i could have got in on this but perhaps another time

oh yeah and
GOOD JOB CURLY (you know who you are)

[David York]

How many times have I mentioned how much Jetpack rules for organizing this? Let me just add one to the list. We'll miss you.

[inspector Lee]

Jetpack going somewhere?

[Sok N. Wett]

Inspector Lee - Whoa you don't know......He gon move to yo city mang, he gon make it big mang, he gon tear shit up mang, he gon take sticks and stones and break somebody's bones mang.......

[grinn]

pshh his city? hes going to san diego! where the watts be.

[Sok N. Wett]

LoL...I mean state but my mind wasn't ticking right today, I think I got a nut lose or two.

[inspector Lee]

Hey, then he'll be one of us Kalifornicators.

[Sok N. Wett]

LOL....kali "FORNICATORS".....that's awesome. he's going to do amazing stuff down there, he's a treasure that we don't want to lose, but like a parent, we had to let him go.

[inspector Lee]

San Diego is sweet. And it's less than an hour from the Border. T.J. Baby YEEEEHAAAA!

[jetpack42]

hey, thanks guys and gals for the kind words.

Glad you all enjoyed the thunderdome! I loved it...Great work everybody!

[Sok N. Wett]

Redehlert - Cool Avatar, for a minute there I thought it looked like "The Rock" picking his nose.

Hmm is everyone going for the picking your nose avatars now...*looks at Inspector Lee*

Patiently waiting for results.......

Hmm wouldn't it be cool if next thunderdome we all do one subject like what Phuzion recommended, cause then we can see everyone's interpretation, cept the judging part will be kinda difficult.

[Oblio]

You are amazing - all of you! Let's see how my fight will turn out - if i come out alive, i'll join you on any sea! :pirate:

[redehlert]

Redehlert - Cool Avatar, for a minute there I thought it looked like "The Rock" picking his nose.
Hmm is everyone going for the picking your nose avatars now...*looks at Inspector Lee*
Hmm wouldn't it be cool if next thunderdome we all do one subject like what Phuzion recommended, cause then we can see everyone's interpretation, cept the judging part will be kinda difficult.
HAH! Just saw Inspector Lee's Avatar....coincidence, for sure. That was a photo from an office party....I can never have a straight face. ;) Thanks Sok! I'm The Rock's stunt double...didn't I tell you that already?
I like Phuzion's idea as well....but I was thinking of doing a portrait like Nova's competition did for the next one. Need to get back into that.
Cheers!
D

[redehlert]

Have I missed the final results yet?
Hit me if I have.... :dur:
D

[inspector Lee]

Hey here's an idea: next Thunderdome everyone do nose picking portraits! (seriously, I don't have a fetish or anything)

[Bojee]

The competitors await the results.......please. :)

[jetpack42]

If not tonight, the results will be posted tomorrow. My home internet is down, so I've got to come back to the library tonight to post em. All the judges have submitted now.

[jetpack42]

The results are in.

Seattle defetas California by a total score of 10-5. There was 14 match winners, and California turned in one more piece then Seattle, so they scored one point by default.

Congratulations to Sok, Dougbot, eliWolff, Alger Langdon, nova, myself, nardfrog, Michael78, stephen, flaptraps, el coro, teyekanik, David York, and Ben Mauro for winning thier matches.

Thanks again for participating!

And now for some comments from the judges.

gaboartpage:
"Best works

1) 10B i love this one!!!
very phantasmagoric
good focal point and detail
. . great atmosphere and composition
for some may look simplistic but
for me is elegant doesnt need to be all detailed
the face rendering is genious very cool piece
and it goes with the frightening/evil/scary/type of illustration
all the way congratulations to the artist
for making the best work


2) 12B I guess that its very contrasted renderings
give this piece a top look
in compo i think almost nothing is left to luck
. . everything is planned and has
a smart delivery of elements

the "belt of the mother" is the best part
amazing contrast shape and style far side is delicious
how with just a thin bright value line
can give so much visual information

my only complain is the hair stripes
i just dont see them fit and the jaw mouth area
of the mother maybe its style but i think
more jaw or chin would have helped to
give a more sober and elegant look to her

creatures and focal point is just sooo clever
very cool congratulations

3) 12A ok . . . where to start? the fact
that this is traditionally made gives an extra
prize to this one, the hues variations in skin
are the best part in this work very subtle
and armonious delivering so many characters
keeping balance tension and reinforcing theme
is simply amazing

skin and flesh management depicting twists
pulls and pushes shows a great visual knowledge
all the kids around her head are my favorites
and the one cuddle in her arm is the best
specially i like his cheek
congratulations

And to the ones who didnt sended
the works well disqualified, if top
pro artists with tight schedules can delivey
their entries in time then others should
do it too, dont compromise to something
you cant do, this talks bad in two ways
first irresponsability and two lack of
control in personal schedule ah yes and
disrespect to your thunderdome parthner

overall this is great thunderdome
good topics and good competition
and friendly atmosphere including
the curse words hehe"


Joachim:
"here are my best 3:


1st:
El Coro - mothers love
Nice execution. A disturbing picture. But it brought my attention a lot more than an of the other submissions, I just had to give it a second and a third look. And it fits the topic well I guess...

2nd:
dougbot - A prospector on a distant asteroid
The picture looks good. But what made my interest is that I can look at the picture and start imagining a deeper story. Cool idea.


3rd:
Phuzion - 3 characters.
The topic is rather dull imo. Not very imaginative. But, characters are nice. Good concepts and well drawn. So as character designs, I think these are nicely done...and they have character.


A lot of other nice pictures as well. But I had a hard time picking out favorites after these."



sparth:
"my favorite five images:

1 - 10b
2 - 12a
3 - 5b
4 - 11b
5 - 16a"


and for those who would like some insight into one of the judges thought processes, here is one judges thoughts on the pieces...

"Sok N Wett vs |ntern "Heroes of the Axis & Allied Powers"

Sok wins: It's clear that Sok has putten most effort into this. Good layout.
...
Dougbot vs Inspector Lee "A prospector on a distant asteroid."

Dougbot wins: Both submissios were very nice. But personally I prefer dougbots, it has a nice rendering quality and the picture tells a story very well.
...
eliWolff vs LadyLioness "Robotic Horse"

eliwolff wins: Both horses had a pretty much same rendering detail. But as a character design looks more tought through and the functionality of the horse looks more believable.
...
Redehlert vs Alger Langdon "Create a creepy child. The creepier the better."

alger langdon wins: Better composition and the character and motif is more original. The picture tells a story in a nice way.
...
nova vs Groover Mcnab "self-portrait"

nova wins: this was a close call, hard to select a winner. But, nova's picture has a more interessting execution and work well as a straight facial portrait.
...
jetpack42 vs Grinn "midievil cowboy"

jetpack42 wins: hard to choose a winner. Grinns picture had a nice graphic look with nice colors. But, all in all, jetpack42 had a better thought through design and the pen technique makes the picture stand out.
...
nardfrog vs phil holland "demonic biomechianical humans"

nardfrog wins: For me the topic was a bit too cliché, I would have hoped for something more originality within the topic. But, nardfrogs picture is more "eyecatching" because of the picture as a whole, more contrast and action. As a character design, I could not pick a winner.
...
Michael78 vs Sinix "Near-future driver/pilot (for a racing vehicle) [in pen and/or pencil]"

Michael78 wins: More design of costume and the drawing seems more appropriate according to the topic.
...
Bojee vs stephen "a frightening/evil/scary/type of illustration"

stephen wins: better execution and depth to the picture. Topic in itself was very vague and rather "dull" so I have to choose a winner according to the illustration as a picture.
...
flaptraps vs Chaotic Logik "radio controlled machine flesh"

Chaotic Logik wins: Both nice illustrations, but chaotic logic illustrates the topic better and the illustration has an interessting technique.
...
prostate sunrise vs el coro "a mothers love"

el coro wins: Nice execution on both, but el coro's picture has a very nice illustative look and the motif is very interesting. The picture really catches ones attention.
...
Stokes vs teyenkanik "Double Dragon"

teyenkanik wins: nice composition and a nice way to renew the classic double dragon characters to look cool in the year 2004.
...
silverslash vs i.was.ink "Primitive figure with advanced technology"

i.was.ink wins: well hard to compare with no opponent
...
David York vs Dished "Centaur Warrior" ?

David York wins: The picture is better executed.
...
Undertow vs Phuzion "Sniper (male), Spy (female), Thief (Non-human)"

phuzion wins: Well still impossible to judge with no opponent. But I want to mention that regarding the pretty dull topic the execution is very nice. Great character designs and very cool attitude on all 3 characters.
...
Sapphire vs mos667 "Prehistoric VS Futuristic"

sapphire wins: again only one opponent so winner comes automaticly.
...
Ben Mauro vs dns2k 'ancient or futuristic human/machine hybrid in everyday scenario'

ben mauro wins: For me this picture has more appeal. It tells a story and the sketchy pen style works well. I think both submissions would have better with a more thought through cropping for the composition"


Im very pleased with all the work turned in, All of your participation makes this possible. After Oct 23rd we'll be ramping up the Thunderdome machine again, most likely in a battle of East vs West, so stay tuned! Until then, the powers that be at CA are starting up Thunderdome 8. Get cookin!

[PhilHolland]

Congrats. I want to play again to 'cough' redeem myself. I like the punishment.
Maybe I'll choose the topic this time. Like "Seattle being destroyed by Godzilla".

Kidding all. Good job to everybody.

Phil

[Sok N. Wett]

Ohhhh man I didn't see this coming...... :wink: :wink: ...all kiddings aside It was a great contest won by all. Good luck to everyone else in the next Thunderdome, umm any Cali folks wanna be my friend, I'll give ya a dollar........I'm gonna enter Thunderdome 8 until The next Thunderdome arrives for Seattle. I hope everyone else participate in that as well, that means you lNTERN if you haven't already, it's good practice, buuuuddddyyy (can't really do a Paulie Shore Impression on here)

[Schlo-mo]

Whoa, props to the judge who wrote the thought processes, that was interesting.

[|NTeRN]

congrats seattle. next time i'll check my schedule and make sure i dont have exams the week the Tdome is due. stupid me.

[Dished]

That was fuuuunnnnn!!!!!! Good job Seattle! Same with Cali too. Anticipating for the next one =D

[fukifino]

I don't see the Oregano vs. Otis contest mentioned anywhere...was that matchup not judged? (Not to try to stir more controversy over this topic, I'm just wondering who won it.)

BTW: Big congrats to Seattle on the win, and a general round of applause for all who participated! :cheerleader: :cheerleader:

[jetpack42]

The results will not be listed, and the match won't count due to a) controversy around otis' piece, and b) it doesn't affect the total outcome anyhow. It's a shame Oregano's efforts are being underscored like this. Let's focus on the rest of the art.

End of Story.

[nardfrog]

Wheelz, i have a few thanks to anty out here.

Huge thanks to Jetpizack fo-tizzoo!! Good work on organizational skills!!!

Big thanks to all the judges for giving there own time to do this for us - very generous!

And a special, special thanks to one Phillardby Hollandingston!!!!! THanks for gettin me to do some art bro!

[JeffZNY]

I think Oregano and Otis both came up with fine pieces for the competition, and that's the whole point anyway, right? to motivate ppl to produce some great art? So sorry your contest wasn't judged guys, but congrats to you both for participating, and keep up the good work.

[jetpack42]

yes, a huge thanks to the judges for taking thier time to oversee the contests. Thanks for taking the time to give some feedback as well.

[Bojee]

Was holding off on this until the results were in so it didn't sound like I was kissing ass but Big Thanks to the Judges for taking the time to judge these things and also for leaving comments, great to get feedback.

To JP thanks bro for putting this together, T-domes cropping up all over the place now, look what you started. :)

And Big Congrats to stephen, you deserved it, beautiful piece. :) :)

Oh yeah, Right on Seattle!! :party: :party: :party:

[Sinix]

Ahh... guess we got obliterated.. congrats seattle and michael78. I should have worked harder, but it was a great thunderdome. I look forward to the next competition.. absolutely refuse to lose again.. easterners will be destroyed.

[Michael78]

Yeah that was awesome! Thanks JP and judges for your time and effort. Sinix thanks for stoking my flame with a very difficult challenge. I was a little worried my piece was going to look weak so I pushed myself and turned out some of my best work so far. I look forward to the next one!

[lowpolymatt]

Just a small thought JP, but I cant tell who won against who...with the way you've set out the results...

Might be better next time to post who vs who then the winner...

Great work everyone! There are no losers...remember that!

Matt

[jetpack42]

lowpoly, i fixed it on the first page for easier viewing. thanks for the heads up.

[stephen]

UGH how did cali lose!?!! oh well, great work everyone and thank u judges! :bashful:

[sparth]

amazing work from all of you mates. forgive me for not having written any comments on the artworks, i came up rather late on the judgings. nevertheless it was a pleasure analysing these images, and there was a lot of impressive pieces in there for sure. bravo to all of you!

sparth

[Sok N. Wett]

I really appreciated the professionals taking their time out of their busy schedule to judge our pieces, I mean we could of gotten anyone to judge, but it we wouldn't get the insight of why a certain piece won more than the other....good job on Jetpack's part of arranging all this, he made it happen, and I can't stop giving him props, you deserve it man, oh can I have your first born.

[prostate sunrise]

many thanks to making this all happen jp42, and to the judges for, well, judging. go seattle and starbucks!

[Phuzion]

YEAH! How does it feel to get your ass kicked Cali?! Wait... that's me too. Shit.

Nah, great games everyone! I had a blast and really didn't care about the judging, I just liked the extra push.

Jetpack: You will forever dance the macarena in my mind. That's a good thing, trust me :wink:

Judges: You guys rock! Thanks for the effort you put into this.

I do feel a little cheated though, just cause someone didn't post their images... I don't want to name names cause it might be couchUNDERTOWcough. I'm just playing with you man, but dammit finish that shit and post it in the finished section anyway! Cause you rock the spot, and I wanna see it finished.

Okay, peace out all
-Daniel

[redehlert]

To the judges - thank you so much for your time!
To Seattle - Awwwww yeah.
To California - Awwww yeah.
To Alger L.- slayer hoss! Congrats on the win! You're image still creeps me out...you really hit the mark on this one.
Cheers!
D

[wes9000]

great works from everyone, i feel honored to be asked to judge again
sorry i never got around to putting up my responses to the last thunderdome... wanted to make sure i would this time

match 1- i didnt know about the whole controversy when i judged. that said, i thought these two were both great and i had a hard time picking a winner.. i eventually decided on otis', due to his depiction of the topic.. but these are both really great and its more of a tie in my book

match 2- nice job guys, but i had to give this one to Sok, he defintiely showed a great deal of dedication in his entry and just an overall more complete image. keep studying that anatomy guys!

match 3- wow these are both really nice... I chose Dougbots for his concept and excellent execution. i like where inspector lee is going with this though... a bit monochromatic, but a great start. dougbot, this is one of the nicest images ive seen you do. i picked your image in the last battle too... great stuff. nice lighting...one of the only things i can say though is that it would be nice to see a more developed face on the old man...it reads as a little flat and comic book-y compared to the rest of the image

match 4- this was interesting to see... two different people coming up with almost the exact same pose for the horse! theyre both pretty nice, i ended up going with eliwolff though, the robotics seem more thought out and functional... also the rendering is clearer and the forms read nicely. keep it up both of you

match 5- this is another one with two really great images. i like the texture and color going on in redehlerts, but i went with AlgerLangdons... i really like the originality and composition of Algers... really nice and just feels a little creepier. great job both of you guys though

match 6- this one was the closest for me. i didnt know which to pick, theyre both great and i like both for very different reasons. groovers creativity... novas haunting stare. i ended up choosing groovers after switching back and forth. i just really like the mechanical selfportrait on the end of the robotic contraption.

match 7- these are both really cool too. i like the graphical elements of grinns, but i chose jetpacks as the winner. jetpacks concept reads more clearly and i dig the inking... could be cleaned up a little bit though... maybe think of other ways to do the background than just flat black with a halo of white around the figures. its always good to think about the negative space of an image while youre working on it.

match 8- these both turned out nice, i chose nardfrogs though in the end... i liked the concept a little more and the execution was done quite nicely. phils looks like a nice start to a piece, but i think parts of it could use some more work and the value could be punched a bit more..

match 9- good concepts guys, i went with michael 78s due to showing the thought process of the design of the suit and its functionality. sinix's ink drawing is done very well though... keep it up guys

match 10- i looove stephens painting. probably my favorite of this thunderdome. a great example of perfect use of different temperatures of black. great hands and face. for some reason though it feels like the canvas should be slightly longer at the bottom... to give the composition just a little more vertical thrust. bojees got a nice start here... the guy in the door with his shadow provides a nice graphical element. i think the girl in the forgroung could use a bit more work and study. man, nicely done stephen..

match 11- heres another i thought was really close... i went with flagtraps though...i felt the composition worked nicely and i really like the movement of the robot...he feels like hes powering up and waking. chaoticlogiks concept for the machineflesh robot is really cool though and i like that aspect alot. the running girl doesnt really work for me though.

match 12- mannn these are both awesome. thats all i can say. i went with el coros, for the amazing use of traditional materials and the elaborate composition and configuration of all the bodies. prostat sunrise- this is probably the best image ive seen from you yet, its looking really nice. i do think the anatomy of the mother feels a little weird and could use some work. parts seem a little too thin, i know thats what youre going for, but it doesnt help establish the ability for her to hold that giant thing on her head upright heheh. also keep working on those human faces

match 13- cool entries from both... i went with stokes due to the more elaborate pose and nice rendering. hehe nice inclusion of the old screen shot too. teyekaniks is nicely composed, i think with a little more work it could be really nice. maybe some work on the background? or more variety of color and value in the characters..

match 14- pretty nice drawing iwasink, keeping going.. push that value and keep trying to think creatively the octopus arm is interesting and it could be cool to see that idea pushed further

match 15- keep going guys, its good too see you both pushing yourselves.. i had to go with David Yorks for this match, it just looks like you really put alot of time into it and you definitely tackled a really difficult scene to illustrate. hope both of you keep studying and working at it

match 16- awesome image Phuzion, great characters, they look like the walked right out of an epic animated movie

match 17- heh i like sapphires image alot, very funny and done well too, so i had to go with it for this match. would be cool to see you tackle this one again in color! mos667's realy just looks like the start of an image so its hard to crit...just keep working at it

match 18- i like the topic.. i chose Bens for this match, i found the subject matter to be a little more interesting and even a little thought provoking... robots buying fruit... i would suggest that next time you might want to try doing a bunch of thumbails first and try to come up with a really interesting or dynamic compostion first...itll help in the end. same thing with dns2k's... this could be really awesme if you pushed that perspective alot so that the audiences point of view was from the position of one of those pool balls! also think about your rendering a bit more... the hatching is there, but its not really serving any purpose, its not really showing the shape of those forms or showing how light is laying across the forms.

again, great job to all, and its really nice to see so many people putting forth the dedication to this...

thanks,
wes

[jetpack42]

Thanks wes! :} :hatsoff:

[|NTeRN]

so young yet so wise.

almost brings a tear to my eye





hehe that ryhmes :confident

[clogik]

congratulations to seattle on a great thunderdome!! kudos to everyone who participated. mucho thnx for the judges. i had lots of fun and look forward to upcoming thunderdomes.

flaptraps: that was a very close matchup! but someone had to take the cake, congrats on a job well done! until next time....


go seahawks!! im done.

[redehlert]

match 5- this is another one with two really great images. i like the texture and color going on in redehlerts, but i went with AlgerLangdons... i really like the originality and composition of Algers... really nice and just feels a little creepier. great job both of you guys though.


Hey wes9000 - Thanks for that crit! Sincerely appreciate the feedback. Bang on for Alger's work. I'm still disturbed by it. :er:

Cheers!
Dave

[flaptraps]

hey thanks to all the judges to take time out for us! thanks for all the crits to.

chaotic: thanks man we'll have to do it again sometime, good job.

[nova]

there's never been a boring thunderdome, thanks for another exciting one, guys. if seattle would've lost, it still would've been fun. but we one, which makes this even better :confident anyway, it's been as fun to watch as it has been to participate!

good work everybody, great to see devotion from both sides :wink:

edit: oh, thanks a bunch wes, sparth, joachim, gaboartpage, and the mystery judge for your insights :}

[Bojee]

I agree totally. :) thanks again to wess for the critique, I couldn't agree more but I'm learning. Can't wait till the next one. Even if I'm not in Seattle I can compete as an Honorary one right??? I've been here longer than most of you guys anyway. :)

[Alger Langdon]

Congrats on the win Seattle,
Big ups to the Judges, Wes, Sparth, gaboartpage and the rest. Thanks for the crits. Cant forget Jetpack either for organizing,

Redehlert, thanks for the compliments, i knew it was gonna be close. Keep painting.

K log- dont even remind me about the seahawks. :nohope: still bitter about that loss last week.

Chuch.

[David York]

Wes, that was awesome. Thanks.

Dave

[Undertow]

YEAH! How does it feel to get your ass kicked Cali?! Wait... that's me too. Shit.

Nah, great games everyone! I had a blast and really didn't care about the judging, I just liked the extra push.

Jetpack: You will forever dance the macarena in my mind. That's a good thing, trust me :wink:

Judges: You guys rock! Thanks for the effort you put into this.

I do feel a little cheated though, just cause someone didn't post their images... I don't want to name names cause it might be couchUNDERTOWcough. I'm just playing with you man, but dammit finish that shit and post it in the finished section anyway! Cause you rock the spot, and I wanna see it finished.

Okay, peace out all
-Daniel

what can I say other than, a higher power saw fit to eliminate my available time to do artwork. I'll try my best to finish off those designs.. I never did get to work on the thief character yet:P Tonight maybe. BTW congrats on the default win.. chump ;)
-Mike