Seattle Sketch Group: Friday, Oct 8, 7 pm Caffe Vita, Capitol Hill

[Undertow]

Undertow, Scuro, Sapphire - Thanks. I feel better now. Mono, Strep, flesh-eating virus lodged in the throat - whatever it was it sucked and now it's gone. Sketch crawl sounds like a blast, I can't wait! BTW - Art walk in Pioneer Square is tonight. I'm TOTALLY there!
It was probably a macaroni noodle;)

Quick question for everyone, well.. mostly for the guys..
Do any of you play hockey, ice skate, or have an interrest in playing hockey? The only reason I ask is I'm getting really serious about hockey again (played for 7 years, been skating since 6) and am actively pursuing building an intramural team. If anyone is interrested, let me know and we can talk in greater detail.
-Mike

[David York]

Sketch night is Saturday this weekend then?

[Sok N. Wett]

Always wanted to play hockey when i saw the Mighty Ducks......the movie that is......yeah

[David York]

I know Undertow cannot make it this Sunday, but are there still people feeling like crawlin' this Sunday, or is it just for next week?

[skeletron]

David York - good to see ya back on the scene. Looking forward to talking with you again about projects.

I can't make it this week on account of a crunch at one of my jobs.

[jetpack42]

If somebody doesn't post some pictures soon, people are gonna die when I come back into town. For the love of something! Let me live vicariously!

[Prehistoric]

i'm gonna be there saturday night. anyone else? last week was a sparse turnout. let's get back on the horse, guys.

and someone bring a camera for jetpack, for chrissake! :dur:

[Undertow]

Mike! I'll take photos at the rink this afternoon if you want?;) lol I'll be down in Seattle next week, this weekend Lou is broke so Rachael and I are staying up north. This is a good thing as it gives me an excuse to go to the ice rink ALLLL WEEEEEKEND! I'm also in the process of planning a weekend up in Vancouver sometime next month. Seattle sketch group meets Vancouver sketch group and tears up the city? BTW, for those of you that live up in Bellingham, I'll be at the Sportsplex ice rink at 2:45 for stick and puck practice/community skate 1/2 ice 1/2 price. For directions, it's off exit 153 on I-5. www.sportsplex.com If ya'll are interrested you should drop by.
-Mike

[redehlert]

I've got a new sketch book and have finally been able to find time to add media to it. I need inspiration - I've drawn an angel gal, a marble gal statue and a banana. Freakin' joy of joys. Going to Sat night's sketch group is in effect and I'll be there to get my head out of my ass. This is a promise....I WILL BE THERE....
:bashful:

Cheers!
D

[Undertow]

One of my boys from the Avionics Wing sent this to me.. I laughed so hard I cried.
Dance White Boy, Dance! (http://www.glumbert.com/media/dancewhiteboy.html)
-Mike V

[Sapphire]

I would totally crawl with ya Dave if I had a way down...

[David York]

Good health aside, it is unlikely I will be able to make it today. Have fun without me.

[redehlert]

Hey All,

First - thanks to those that were at the sketch group on Saturday. Small turnout (sorry, no pics JP - camera shy creatures) but I am planning on being more routine and seeing more of all of y'all. Prostate, Prehistoric and you two that rarely post (you know who you are) - thanks....good to jam with you.
Peace!
D

ps. Prehistoric - got an email from Bonnie and Clyde painter - apparently I was right on with Clyde's left finger lengths....how about that!

[Prehistoric]

who's coming tomorrow night?

i know i'll be there, but some of you folks have been slackin' on the sketch night :nohope:

you know who you are :wink:

come on, i want to see a lot of people there tomorrow night. and someone bring a camera if anybody has one.

[redehlert]

I'm afraid I'll be in the slackin' group - going out for drinks tomorrow eve. I'll be there next Saturday if I have my way.

Cheers!
D

[Undertow]

playing hockey tomorrow night. Saturday I'm in meetings all day so I can't go to the rink like I normally would:( Quick question for everyone.. anybody up for going to Vancouver for a weekend to hang out and try and meet the group up there? It would have to be within the next month and a half though, I'm getting deployed for 6 months starting in June.
-Mike

[tagHeuer]

That’s an awesome idea Mike.

[prostate sunrise]

mike - im down for that.

so anyone one else showing up tommorrow?

[tagHeuer]

I’ll probably be there.

[Sok N. Wett]

Mike - sounds like a good idea, any ideas for me to get there, is there a bus route or anything like that....this is vancouver, WA right not Canada........So I can bring my stuff animals and my comfort blanket....man that would be awesome, sucks that your getting deployed.

[Undertow]

No, Vancouver BC Sok!:) If memory serves me correctly, you're not 21 yet? If that's the case you can drink in Canada as the legal age is 19. There's no bus route that I'm aware of;)

I figured we could get 3 or 4 of us with vehicles together and car pool. Enterring into canada you need either a birth certificate or passport to prove that you're a US citizen. So if you don't have those documents squared away, now would be a good time to do so. The beauty part about taking care of this stuff now is that if we decide to do future trips up north, or bring the group to say... Prague, it'll be one less worry on the list. BTW for all you anime/manga fans, I'm deploying to JAPAN so if there's anything you want from the book/toy stores out there I'll be collecting a list in May before I leave.

I'll be there tonight, and I'm bringing my wife as well.

-Mike

[redehlert]

Hey All! I think this will mark my 400th post at CA.org...not sure what the big deal is, but hell....since I'll never get to the same posting level as Jet Pack, I might as well celebrate this! I'm going to tie it in with the fact that this weekend, Sunday to be exact, marks my one year wedding anniversary (which is one reason why I won't be attending this evening). I am working on a C.O.W. #6 image (digger creature) so at least I'm doodlin' and noodlin'. I'm going to post a wip of my C.O.W. in a bit....stay tuned.
Mike - Vancouver, BC -- would love to do this, but it's not in my cards for now. Easier than doing Vegas, but it is as it is. I hope you will be successful at getting a crew together!

Cheers!
D

wow! i'm over 400! feel like i missed an orgasm or something....oh well, happy 402!

[redehlert]

As promised, I posted my wip of the C.O.W. #6 in the creature thread....post #1176, page 59.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=425890&posted=1

Thoughts are welcome! Just random noodlin' leading to somthing....

Cheers,
D

[Sok N. Wett]

Actually I'm 24 Mike, but it's good to know you think of me as still a youngie...lol, yeah if we had that car pooling thing, man I would be hella down, just let me know. Japan!!! Sweet, you might see Vic there.

[Scuro]

I'll see if I can make it tonight.

[Prehistoric]

come on people!

the more of you that are there, the better i draw!! >:|

[eliWolff]

i got a camera now, so if I make it, I'll bring my camera! I'll be at work late though, and I might not be able to get out of here till it's too late.. the current game I'm working on needs to be done by next week so it's busy right now :$

[Undertow]

going to be really late. just got back from the rink. I need to shower and stuff. Wife isn't feeling well so I might bail, sorry guys:(

[Metareason]

My infamous dragon picture is here
Dragon! (http://philord.sts.winisp.net/dragon.JPG)

I'll be at Vitta's tonight!

[skeletron]

I'm going to try to make it tonight too.

[prostate sunrise]

friday or saturday this week?

[tagHeuer]

saturday. I'm going to be there.

[Prehistoric]

count me in.

[Undertow]

Skrubbles and Undertow will be there too;)

[Sok N. Wett]

Damn it haven't seen Lou's ass in awhile....is it still soft and firm....

[Sapphire]

I'm back!

I'm in town for Spring Break! :D If anyone can give me a ride I'd LOVE to come. It's been too long.

[redehlert]

I'll be there! Gotta work on COW #7 - on a mission to pull something together. Where oh where is jetpack at? Isn't he coming back to Seattle soon?Weez misses him, yessssss…weez misses the precious.
Cheers!
Dave

ps. Does anyone here go to Art Not Terminal for life drawing sessions? If so, do you pay in cash in advance and do you need to make reservations for space? I'm itchin' to dive back into life drawing :bashful: oh it's been a while...

[fab fox]

I'm down for saturday. We gonna pick a theme this time?

[prostate sunrise]

yo red, i go to art not for life drawing, actually going there tommorrow, its pay six bucks whenever during the session. its very lax, just sit where ever you're not in someones way, first come first serve, no real resevervations.


starts at 9:30 am, i get there a little earlier.

alright, hope to see you there sometime


peace.

[skrubbles]

yeah, its still nice and firm Sok
LOL.

Its been a while, but I'll surely be there if Mike picks me up.

Kekai - sweeeeeeee avatar

[eliWolff]

it's looking like we're gonna have a good turn-out this saturday! I'll be there too. With my camera. /m\

[Undertow]

If I can convince asshat Skrubbles to go to life drawing tomorrow morning I would be truly happy. If he doesn't go (because he needs his 'beauty sleep') I'm willing to offer a lift to anyone that either doesn't feel like walking (Cake) or is not willing to bus it in that early.
-Mike

[redehlert]

Prostate - thanks man! I'll see if I can get my butt in the studio tomorrow morning....
Undertow - Does that mean you're going to Art Not Terminal's life drawing tomorrow morning as well?
Peace.
d

[eliWolff]

After art/not life drawing Sat morning, I'm heading over to the zoo to draw animals for awhile.. anyone else wanna go too?

[Undertow]

D, I'm going to try my damdest to go. It all depends on how exhausted I am. I have hockey practice tonight from 10:15-11:45 up in Bellingham so I wont be getting home until 1 in the morning. Eli, if I make it to life drawing tomorrow morning, I'll go to the zoo with you. We can do another lunch in the U District trip too if you want. Now we just have to convince Lou to get his ass up before 9 tomorrow.
-Mike

[tagHeuer]

Count me in for the zoo trip. :teeth:

[Sapphire]

Eli, if somebody can get me, I'd loooooove to go with you!

YAY animals!

[Undertow]

just got home.. damn I'm tired, and I have a feeling that I'm going to be REALLLLLLY sore tomorrow morning when I wake up.. er.. this morning:P Anyhow, I'm going to miss life drawing. Lou and I have to run his messed up monitor over to circuit city but after that I will call you Eli (Wolf) and we can meet up at the zoo.
-Mike

[Sapphire]

Call me at (425) 489-1178...

[Undertow]

I slept clean through my alarm. I wont be leaving for another hour or so

[darkly]

Hey ya-all over in washington (especially Mike and Lou). Hope things are going well and you're getting lots of drawing done. I took your advice and found the cleanest tattoo shop around. Now I'm apprenticing there (skinnyboytattoo.com). I've given 4 tats so far and Iv'e got more people coming in. I haven't been able to do much concept/real life drawing, I've been so busy with the tattoo stuff.
Hey Mike, I noticed that you were offering to pick people up for life drawing. Next time you're felling so generous you could swing by Post Falls Idaho and pick me up. I wouldn't mind hangin-out and drawing with you fine folks.
Catch ya on the flip-flop,..later
Nutorious Nate Digitty Dogler

[eliWolff]

the weather turned nasty today, so I'm skipping the zoo trip. maybe next weekend if it's gets sunny again! see ya'all tonite at vitas.

[Sapphire]

Tattoos, huh? Is that a really high-pressure sort of art job? I would be SOOOO afraid of screwing up, or making a line crooked or something.

[David York]

[Edit]

Count me in for tonight, it's been too long!

Undertow - thanks for offering to pick up Sapphire.

See you guys!

[Undertow]

No freakin' updates yet? Weak. Where's the photos at Eli, I'm sure that JP's anxiously awaiting some visuals. Great turn out last night guys and girls. Thanks for coming out, it was great hanging with the group again, you're always an inspiration and great help to me getting off my artistic ass. Anyhow, hope you all have a great remainder of the weekend, see you in 2 weeks.
-Mike

[redehlert]

Should we post our hour long concept sketch?
Good hangin' wichay'all!
Cheers,
D

[eliWolff]

we had a really great turnout on Sat night -- tons of folks showed up! I didn't take enough photos, but here's what I got..

vita01 (http://www.eliwolff.com/photos/vita01_031905.jpg)

vita02 (http://www.eliwolff.com/photos/vita02_031905.jpg)

vita03 (http://www.eliwolff.com/photos/vita03_031905.jpg)

vita04 (http://www.eliwolff.com/photos/vita04_031905.jpg)

[Sapphire]

It was great to finally make it to a sketch night! These last couple of days have been more art-intensive than things tend to be up at college a lot of the time. Sketch Night, Art Not, the zoo sketching... good times, good times!

I liked the whole "doing one concept for an hour" thing... it was fun and gave us a goal, and then we get to see what everybody could immediately come up with. (Posted mine in my sketchbook already.)

So, thanks David York and Mike for schlepping me around everywhere! Thanks Eli for getting us into the zoo, and thanks David Hunt for being awesome. :)

:yayca:

[redehlert]

Hey Lou!
That book on foreshortening by Cody is:
Atlas of Foreshortening: The Human Figure in Deep Perspective
(newest)
and
Atlast of Foreshortening: The Artist's Model in Deep Perspective
(I have this one)

Here they are online:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=atlas%20of%20foreshortening&userid=QC7GoG9BLX&cds2Pid=946

Cheers!
Dave

[skrubbles]

thanks for the info Dave... I did a search and found it $10 cheaper through amazon.com. I'm definately buying this :)

[redehlert]

Happy to help, man....!
Cheers!
D

PS - Undertow - at the next Saturday sketch group, would you bring those two books you had with you again? Wanna look through them again. That is, if you attend the next Saturday sketch group.
:yayca:

[Undertow]

yes on both counts. I'll also bring my Range Murata book entitled Futurythm. You'll dig his stuff if you like clean design work. Range Murata is a god when it comes to character/clothing design.
-Mike

[redehlert]

Sweet. Thanks Mike! See ya in two weeks then (unless you go to Art Not on this Sat morning).
And yeah, I'm a big fan of design, especially when it's clean. However, I like it when it's dirty, dirty, dirty(!) too. :tihi:
Cheers,
D

[Undertow]

Sarah,
Did you lose a little blue crystal button off a purse or something? My wife found it in the car (please tell me it's off a purse, she's probably thinking weird things as is);) j/k
-Mike

[Sapphire]

Blue Crystal thingy? Well, I can't think of what you mean... maybe that hair button clip thing I wore one day. I stuck it in my purse a couple of days ago, so it could have fallen out even though I wasn't wearing it at the time. Yeah, that's probably it. Could you possibly bring it to the next sketch meet? Thanks!

[Undertow]

Blue Crystal thingy? Well, I can't think of what you mean... maybe that hair button clip thing I wore one day. I stuck it in my purse a couple of days ago, so it could have fallen out even though I wasn't wearing it at the time. Yeah, that's probably it. Could you possibly bring it to the next sketch meet? Thanks! it's a tiny little button. looks kind of like a blue crystal flower. it's light blue/turqoise colored and it's the whole button with the side it connects to as well.

[S.C. Watson]

Hey troops,

this might have been discussed already, but I'm not gonna scroll back, cuz.

Is anyone going to the NorWes Con this weekend? I'll be there on Saturday to just hang out and scope things a little. Let me know and we can hook up for a bit.

~Shane

[Prehistoric]

what's the NorWes Con all about?

[S.C. Watson]

http://www.norwescon.com/

It looks (I'm guessing, because I've never been) to be kindof-sortof small potatos, but there's some good artists going to be there. I'm just heading out to schmooze a bit for now.

[Undertow]

First of all, just wanted to let my Washington homies in on a job listing that's not the boards
http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/2d-illustrator.shtml
I didn't want to put this in the lounge as it would get a little more exposure there. This pisses me off because I can't apply for this job and I have the qualifications and the portfolio to at least submit and have a strong chance:/

Oregano: what day are you attending and who all is going to be there? Are Randy Post and Todd Lockwood on the guest list?
-Mike

[S.C. Watson]

Oregano: what day are you attending and who all is going to be there? Are Randy Post and Todd Lockwood on the guest list?
-Mike

Hey Mike,

Michele and I will be heading down for Saturday. Todd will be there, but Randy will not from the looks of it. Phil Phoglio will be there... Not a lot of names I recognize right off, but that doesn't mean anything. you can check who all here: http://www.norwescon.org/?menuarea=participant

Cheers,
~Shane

[Prehistoric]

that Con looks really cool, but i don't think i can shell out the 40 bucks for just one day.

maybe next year.

oregano, if you can find a place to crash for the night in seattle, you should come to sketch night on friday night.

[Undertow]

$40 for one day? f' that, I paid that much for a 3 day pass at SDCC in 99 and it's a much larger convention. If I wasn't broke I might consider it.. but sheeeeit.
-Mike

[S.C. Watson]

Where do you guys meet for the sketch group? There's a *chance* we might be able to swing this.

[Undertow]

this weeks meet is on Friday not Saturday. A few of us will be downtown in the morning for life drawing though. Lunch maybe?
-Mike

[S.C. Watson]

Friday (today) works fine, if I can figure out where you are meeting, and at what time this evening. We won't be able to catch you until tonight tho - too much schtuff going on here before hand.

Let me know where you're going to be, and at what time and we'll try to make it! :wink:

[redehlert]

Hey Mike - you're going to Art Not on Saturday morn? Anyone else? I'll be there fosho.
Won't be at sketch jam this eve - I'm shooting for the Saturday meets.
Peace.
D

[Undertow]

Shane, the meetings take place at Caffe Vita (http://www.caffevita.com/location.html) on Capitol Hill. This evening I will be at my writers playing CthulhuTech (the game we've developed) with the company senior partners. If I'm not too wasted I might drop in and say hi. Sucks I'll miss you Shane, it was cool hanging up here in Whidbey even if it was only for a bit. Dave (Redehlert) and I are doing pretty much the same thing, Saturday meets only. Would you be interrested in getting together for lunch tomorrow though?
-Mike

[Prehistoric]

yeah shane. glad to hear you might make it.

cafe vita, pike street, 1 block east of broadway. we'll be up on the second floor.

hope to see you there.

[S.C. Watson]

What time do you guys meet?

It's gonna be tight, but it's lookin good so far...

Mike: I'll be down at the convention tomorrow, if you are going to be in the Sea-Tac area we can do. Otherwise we can see about getting together again next saturday down at my place in Freeland if you want. I'll be there working on stuff again, so it's up to you if want to come by and hang out again. Tho I doubt I'll have as much time to draw this time... :^^;:

Cheers,
~Shane

[redehlert]

7 to 11, Oregano....
Cheers!
D

[S.C. Watson]

SOK - SEE YOU LOOKING AT THIS - YOU BETTER BE THERE!

Cool, thanks Red. 7 or thereabouts - see then! (I hope!)

Thanks,
~Shane

[Sok N. Wett]

I wish I could but I'm working til 8:00 pm and have no ride, but shit I know I'm missing out on this big event especially when your in town Oregano.....hopefully in another acouple of months i will pay off my bill, and finally get my bro's car. That's all I'm waiting for.

[redehlert]

Sok - where do you live? I may be able to swing getting your punk ass on Saturday sketch nights if you're not too friggin' far away.
Peas.
D

[S.C. Watson]

aw, bugger, man. that bites. :(

[tagHeuer]

See you all there tonight. :confident

[Sok N. Wett]

I live in Tacoma or Tacompton as they call it up in huuurrrrrrr

[Sapphire]

Sorry I couldn't make it this time! I had family from out of town, and was also spending time with my boyfriend. Too bad it's not a Saturday week this time.

[S.C. Watson]

Heya,

I'll shoot for a Saturday the next time and hopfully I'll be able to meet more of you. There was only three people by the time we showed up (sorry - I can't remember who was there - feel free to berate me and call me names... :nohope: )

Anyway, got to the conference and that turned out really cool. I'd never been to one before and seeing all these people in costume was a ton of fun. I think there were almost as many women in skirts as men :D

Also had the opportunity to meet and have lunch with Todd Lockwood, who's been playing an informal mentor to me for the past year. That was great. Also had the chance to meet Micheal Whelan. Both of these guys are kind of pillars for me. Whelan has been an influence since before I was in highschool. The cool part was that I met him totally by chance.

Also got to meet this writer guy. Alan Dean Foster. I guess he's written a couple of books or something ;)

All in all, it was fun and a great experience. I ended up with a signed Whelan print of The White Dragon, one of my personal favorites.

Cheers all,
~Shane

PS - whoever recomended that sushi place - THANK YOU. That hit the SPOT. :confident

[Prehistoric]

you don't remember my name!!??

i'm thoroughly offended! haha, just kidding. glad you could stop by even just for a few minutes to say hi.

hope you can make it again when there's a better turnout.

nice to hear you had a good experience at the conferece.

later,

zack

[S.C. Watson]

you don't remember my name!!??

i'm thoroughly offended! haha, just kidding. glad you could stop by even just for a few minutes to say hi.

hope you can make it again when there's a better turnout.

nice to hear you had a good experience at the conferece.

later,

zack

Haha - thanks Zack. I'm lucky if I can remember my *own* name.

Seriously :dur:

It was great hanging out for a few. I'm really very jealous of you guys. You have *friends*... :( snif*

[tagHeuer]

It was cool meeting you Oregano, I was glad I got a chance to look though your sketchbook. I really like your work.

[jetpack42]

eliWolff- Thanks for taking a few pictures bro! They were great! Much appreciated! *lives vicariously*

[prostate sunrise]

shit shane, i missed meeting you on friday. hope you drop by another time bro.

jp - go to sleep mike. :teeth:

[S.C. Watson]

tagHeuer - Hey, likewise. Your cartooning stuff was great, thanks for sharing that with me :bashful:

prostate sunrise hey man - yeah, I know you guys normally meet on Saturdays, which is kind of a trick for me because I work Sunday mornings >:| , but hey, I'll make it down again!

Cheers,
~S

[Undertow]

Sin City, Saturday, after life drawing? Who's down?
-Mike V

[Prehistoric]

MEEEEEEE!

it's playing at the cinerama. might not make it to life drawing, but i'm in for the movie.

[redehlert]

sigh....i'm going to wait a week until next payday....i've waited this long to see some sin, just have to hold out a bit more.
who's doin' art not besides mikey and me?
cheers!
d

[Undertow]

Cake will be there Dave, and has just confirmed that he wants to catch Sin City as well. I'm thinking about buying my tickets tomorrow so we can catch it at the Cinerama. Sok, any chance that you can make it down? I'm going to call Lou up and get him to go as well.
-Mike

[Prehistoric]

mike,

do you know if we can pre-buy tickets?

box office or online?

[tagHeuer]

A guy I work with is having an art show on Friday. He does some of the coolest paintings I’ve ever seen so I’ll probably check that out before heading to sketch group.

here is a link to the flyer
http://www.eliheuer.com/bs/richart.jpg

[eliWolff]

I'm going to the 4pm showing of Sin City at the Cinerama on Saturday.. I figure I'll get in line by 3:30.. anyone else get tix for that showing? I would've went for the earlier showing, but I don't want to miss life drawing, and I know that there will be a huge line for this movie! I bought my ticket online.. just go to www.cinerama.com

[tagHeuer]

Cool Eli, Me and one of the programmers I work with are going to catch the same show.

[Sok N. Wett]

If Redehlert (I'll even pay for your movie and food Dave) is able to come and pick me up or anybody, then I'm ready to go, I'll even go to the life drawing class. If not I'll probably catch this movies with some friends on Sunday, if I go Saturday I'll still catch the one on Sunday...mwuahhahahah.

[Undertow]

Lou's a go, he'll be joining us downtown. With regards to sketch group, HEUER IT'S ON SATURDAY THIS WEEK! Just thought I'd give you that heads up;) lol I'll also buy tickets for the 3:30 show as well. So it looks like it'll be life drawing followed by lunch, movie, sketch group. Sweeeet, a nice packed Saturday:)
-Mike

[redehlert]

I'm hoping to hear good things (but no spoilers) from you yahoos goin' to see Sin City. Do me proud and tell me it kicks ass so my wife will feel equally compelled to see it. Right now, she's into seeing in 1) because I want to, and 2) all of the hotties in it. hahahahaha....
I'll see ya at art not and then at sketch jam later.
Peace.
D

[Undertow]

alright, tickets for 4 pm saturday show bought. I'm there mutha $#!ckas;)

[redehlert]

how much is each ticket, mike?
is it sold out?

[Undertow]

8.50 Not sold out as far as I know. Go to the link that Eli Wolff posted
-Mike

[Undertow]

Heya folks.. I figure that I'm more or less amongst friends here in the WA thread, I just really need to vent about something I've noticed on the forums as of late.

We're getting an increasing number of noobs that don't give a flying F about their work and it's past the point of pissing me off. While browsing the forums I keep having this (http://maddox.xmission.com/irule.html) pop into my head. Seriously, if you suck that bad, don't post. Go to Borders/Barnes and Nobles/Walden or the library, get a book on how to draw and start practicing. When you're done with that book and are unable to figure out what else you need to do, then start asking for advice on where to go next.
The thing that pisses me off the worst about these noobs is that they'll masquerade as someone willing to learn but only offer up excuses as to why "I don't have the time to fix X". If you aren't serious about your work, you shouldn't be on this site. There are others here that are busting their asses trying to improve and their hard work is being pushed to the bottom of the pile as the threads continue to fill with garbage. I know it's not feasible to have an application process just to post on these forums but there needs to be a way to start regulating the asshats that are drawing a single middle school level head shot of someone and saying "Hey guys check out my work" which will then be followed by "You need to work on X" at which will be replied with "Well this was really quick and I wasn't serious about, I'll take your advice to mind when I pick up the pencil again next WEEK." I'm glad that I'm not a mod, and never will be, I'd be indiscriminately banning mf's today.
On a random side note, my favorite comedian Dane Cook (http://www.danecook.com) is performing at UW on Monday. Some of you may remember me more or less performing some of his stand up at sushi a few months back. Alright.. my rant is over. See you all tomorrow;)
-Mike V

[Sok N. Wett]

Yeah it's time we start regulating people.


LOL....dude, Dane is hillarious I could totally understand what he's saying, especially drowning I had a similiar experience like that. Right now I'm looking for more of his audio's.

[redehlert]

Mike - do you need a hug? :rendered:
Totally funny link, btw - they all got Fs!

Cheers!
D

[Prehistoric]

mike, i'm right there with you. i've been noticing a lot of that shit lately too. it's not just the space they take up, but it's also the attention they get. i like to think that i spend a good amount of time and effort on working on my drawings, but when i put up a sketch for crits i get nothing. on the other hand, someone from deviant art comes in and posts up a bunch of paintover crap and their thread fills up with comments (mostly negative, but still). i'd like to see the mods take more into their own hands. like when someone posts up a lazy crappy noob drawing, a mod should step in, refer them to a thread for learning about drawing, then lock their posted thread. let it get lost in the shuffle rather than mine (i'll actually use advice given).

onto other things. i love dane cook! do you need tickets for that? or just show up? probably at meany hall right? on a sad note, comedian Mitch Hedberg died just a couple days ago. he was another hilarious roughly new comedian. so sad.

anyway, see what you started mike?! now you've got me ranting. see you tomorrow.

edit: - just got my ticket for the 4PM show!

[eliWolff]

it's looking like we're gonna have a lot of conceptart guys going to the 4pm show tommorow! this'll be great -- we can take over a couple rows of seats when we get inside. Saturday's gonna be lots o fun. :)

[prostate sunrise]

just got my ticket, see you guys tommorrow.

[redehlert]

looks as though i may be leaning toward the idea of sinning for tomorrow afternoon. will keep ya posted. good times!
d

[redehlert]

hey cake - will you do me up a fun avatar doodle like yours? i don't care whatcha do if you create one for me - just think that yours is too damn funny.
peace!
d
ps. you can say hell no.

[prostate sunrise]

i didnt do it, dougbot did it. but i'll ask him if he can fix one up for you.

[redehlert]

sweet, cake - i appreciate that!
cheers,
d

[Sok N. Wett]

Sounds like you guys are going to have so much fun, I'll probably catch the movie on Sunday, seeing as most of my friends are off that day.

[tagHeuer]

I’m giving someone a ride to the movie so I wont be able to make it to life drawing beforehand. Could one of you guys Pm me with your cell phone number so I can meet up with the group before the movie. :}

[eliWolff]

I just pm'd you.

[Prehistoric]

i'm gonna be down at the cinerama with ticket in hand by 3:30.

whoever gets there first, grab a spot in line and we'll all cut in and piss off the people behind you.

[Undertow]

Well.. as a few of you are aware of at the moment, I'm not at life drawing. I have a marketing meeting this morning so I will be indisposed for a few hours. I'll be swinging by to pick up Lou after the meeting is out.
-Mike

[David York]

Sounds like fun, I'll be there too.

[Sapphire]

Does anybody know where I could possibly download some brush textures for Painter?

Btw, jealous of all you guys going to the Cinerama. :) I went to see the movie last night though, and just finished reading the first graphic novel.

[David York]

Sin City was awesome. I wish I could hang with you guys this evening.

Dave

[jetpack42]

I will be in town, and at the sketch night on the 28th of May. Mark your calendars and be there, especially those of you I haven't seen in a while; redehlert! DavidYork! Imp_Head (!?!) Sok! XiaStokesFlaptraps! nova! michael! BEN! Ryan! If anybody is interested in a smooth newsprint/charcoal demo, I could swing that, but I'd need somebody to bring the paper. We should totally do a portrait night like the previous time we did that, that was a blast! I'll be bringing Krystal, so there's one free model already!

A refusal is not the act of a friend.

[redehlert]

Shiiiiiiiit, JP - I'm gonna be in Illinois for various brothers and cousins that are graduating from highschool and 8th grade. Please tell me you'll be in town for the summer and I'll feel much better. I want to see this demo.
Peace. D

[Undertow]

May 28th will also be my last sketch meet until late December as I leave the following week for Japan.
-Mike

[redehlert]

Does anybody know where I could possibly download some brush textures for Painter?
Hey Sapphire - I get a free Painter 9 brush from a monthly newsletter link. If you want the same, follow the following directions:
-go to http://www.corel.com
-go to their COMMUNITY link on the horizontal menu bar
-scroll down to click on NEWSLETTER's 'MORE' button
-click on the 'Subscribe to the Newsletter of Your Choice'
-on screen refresh, scroll down and become a member - it's free.
-Fill in your stuff and then state you want to receive the Painter Canvas newsletter.

You'll then receive a newsletter via email with a link to get the Painter brush of the month (or however they tout it). Peace! D

[jetpack42]

Dave, I will be in town again late June-mid-July during my summer break. I just couldn't miss Folklife though. There's only two times a year that I automatically have plans:
Thanksgiving at my mother's dinner table
and
Memorial Weekend at Seattle Center (Folklife).

We'll catch up over the summer then, no worries!

[Undertow]

heya WA guys and gals got to see Dane Cook last night at Meaney Hall on UW and I laughed so hard it hurt, so for those of you that missed out his new CD and DVD will be available very soon. In other news I bought a PSP this past weekend. I had buyers remorse for the first 30 minutes, and then I got it out of the box. If you're in the market for a portable game station the PSP is clearly the best option. It's a little pricey for the initial investment but worth every penny for people on the go. My recommendation for the first game to purchase is Lumines. My follow up title is going to be either Ridge Racer or Wipeout.

While I'm at it, I know I haven't posted anything in my sketchbook in a few weeks (more because I've been lazy and haven't scanned anything) but I wanted to ask you all for some crits. I'm at the point where I really need people to start ripping into me so I can find some direction with my work. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. Sapphire has offered up some great advice, would anyone else like to help me out too?:)

-Mike V

[Sapphire]

Thanks for the tip, Eli! Just signing up now.

And Mike, glad I could help. :)

I was wondering if sometime I could get my portrait back, since now I have a bunch of art scholarship applications to worry about, and I might want to submit this piece in another show. Does laura come to the sketch nights these days? If so, maybe I'll come into town to pick it up, because that would be nice to have.

[Undertow]

I haven't seen Nova around in quite some time. On a side note...
Some of you know of my rabid fandom when it comes to Penny Arcade. As todays strip is directly related to video game artist positions I figured I'd post the link toGabe applying for a job at EA (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3)
-Mike V

[David York]

Damn Undertow, I just came on over to link that bad boy myself! Fine, I'll see you and raise you a couple (http://www.machall.com/index.php?do_command=show_strip&strip_id=311&auth=01101-10010-01010-10101-11111) of strips (http://www.machall.com/index.php?do_command=show_strip&strip_id=312&auth=01101-10010-01010-10101-11111) about art school (http://www.machall.com/index.php?do_command=show_strip&strip_id=320&auth=01101-10010-01010-10101-11111).

[Sok N. Wett]

LOL i spent a good hour looking at the Gabe comic strip going backwards, some funny shit, and it's all true too.....

[Undertow]

My personal favorite is the fruit saga. I have the FF T-shirt and a drawing in my sketch book that Gabe did at the Emerald City Comic Con. On another note, The Crystal Method is going to be performing live in Seattle on May 27th, I will definitely be getting a room for that night.
-Mike V

[redehlert]

York and Undertow - links that made me LMAO! Thanks so much - awesome rendering styles for both!
I'm out of control - a little Crystal Method playin' in the bg as I write this.
Peace!
D

[Undertow]

for those that are interrested.. I've updated my sketch book for change;)
-Mike

[eliWolff]

I thought some of you might be interested in this.. there's new gallery show at Roq La Rue opening tonight with paintings by Pooch and Joe Chiodo..

Gallery of Pooch (http://roqlarue.com/frame/frm-current.html)

I'm gonna go down there after work to check it out, so maybe I'll see some of you there too?

[Sok N. Wett]

Joe Chiodo....ohhh that dude is awesome, yo Eli, Pooch looks like kinda the style you paint and draw in, is he one of your influence.

[Undertow]

More linked goodness for everyone, the new Gorillaz video Feel Good Inc. (http://fans.gorillaz.com/multimedia.php)
-Mike V

[Prehistoric]

is anyone coming to sketch night tonight?

i ask because friday nights seem to be a scarce turnout. i think i'll be there, but it might depend on a few things.

[tagHeuer]

Im going to try and make it, but I Probably wont get there until 8 or 9.

Eli Wolf; In case you don’t know already there is a really cool opening at roq La Rue tonight starting at 6.

http://www.roqlarue.com/frame/frm-current.html

[redehlert]

Sorry Pre - won't be there until next Saturday. Nice job on your COW 9!
Happy sketchin' tonight!
Cheers,
D

[eliWolff]

tagHeuer -- I just posted a thing about that gallery show tonight also.. just a few posts back up.. heh heh!

Sok -- In fact, I hadn't ever seen any Pooch art till today, but it is related to the style I'd like to master eventually.

as for the sketch meet, I can't make it tonight cause after the Roq La Rue gallery thing, I gotta leave town and won't be back till tommorow.. have fun sketchin' ya'all!

[Undertow]

This Saturday it is frigging on. I have an idea folks. How about we get a mini t-dome topic together during the week and actually execute our entries between the hours of 7 and 11 on Saturday at Vita? That way we can all come up with ideas for our work, gather reference material, and be ready to work when we get there. The rules would be;
reference collection during the week, no, I repeat, NO thumbnails, pre-lims, what have you until Saturday at 7 pm. Pieces will be due Saturday night at 11 pm when they will be judged by the group by secret ballot. No excuses as to why you can't finish either, it's your fault if you show up late;) It'll be the bi-weekly SEATTLE DRIZZLEDOME!!!!! What do you ya'll think?
-Mike V

[Sok N. Wett]

If anyone is able to pick me up I'm definately down.....

[Prehistoric]

i love it dude!

are we all working on the same topic? or are we pairing off?

either way, i'm in.

[Sapphire]

I'd love to if I'm in town for it or can get a ride!

[Undertow]

hmm.. pairing off would keep people of similar skill level together. let's put it to a vote. Sok, where do you live? I may be able to give you a ride, but I'm already driving all over gods green earth to begin with.
-MV

[Sok N. Wett]

I live in Tacoma, but yeah it'll be a long drive for you, wonder if Redehlert is going, maybe he might be able to swing by :)

[tagHeuer]

EliWolff; Doh! I don’t know how I missed that, sorry. By the way I did check out the show and it was awesome.

Undertow; That’s a really good idea. Count me in! I vote for Pairing off for smaller 2 – 3 person matches. But I suppose that all depends on how many people can show up.

I just got a new camera so hopefully I can take a few photos of this thunderdome to send to jetpack.

[redehlert]

Hey Mike, et al.
Re: this Saturday - I'm down with that idea! I'd say go it solo, but if you really need your partner to hold hands with, then by all means, pair it up.

I was considering a new way of doing the 1 hour sketch jam where you would have the opportunity to write a noun (person, place, thing) on one sheet, and a verb on another. Everyone would put their two sheets into two respective hats and then someone would draw out one sheet from each hat and whatever that combo was is what we'd draw - I could see doing three of these in one evening with 15 minute breaks in between.

Sok - I live 1 mile from Cafe Vita - you know I'd love to get ya, but with the cost of gas, my ass is stayin' local.

On a side note - please go over to COW 9 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42203) and vote for your fav. Be sure to write in the reason why you're voting for who you have selected. It's totally cool to note that Prostate won COW 8 - Congrats man! And also that I believe Seattle has the greatest turnout of artists doing COWs. Kick ass! I want to see some more butts doing this!

BTW, I won't be at Art Not for the next two months. I've signed up for a class at roughly the same time at the Seattle Academy of Fine Art. Hopefully I'll be able to soak up some mad skillz there.

See ya on Saturday eve!
Dave

[Sok N. Wett]

It's all good Dave....freak yeah that damn gas price makes alot of my friends wanting to just stay home...Ya'all have fun, and I'm going to do C.O.W. 10 to get my practice on since I really need to be drawing more.

Congrats Kekai on winning, that was dope!

[redehlert]

Sok, Xia, Prehistoric, Stokes, Sapphire and Dougbot - glad to see all of you a part of COW 9! There were 36 entrants and 7 of those were from us. That's almost 20% of Seattle-based entries versus the world!
Too cool.

Peace.
D

[Prehistoric]

does Xia ever show up for sketch night?

i don't think i've met him before. . . .

[Sapphire]

Don't forget me, redehlert..

[Sok N. Wett]

Umm maybe you meant Sapphire, cause I didn't do COW 9, but I will be doing COW 10, the sirens one....GOOD LUCK TO ALL IN COW 9.

[David York]

Hey Sok,

PM me your address. My car gets great mileage, and sometimes I head up to Bellingham so Tacoma should seem like next door. Some librarians are throwing a party in town, but it will be over before 6/7pm.

[redehlert]

Don't forget me, redehlert..
My bad, Sapphire - I thought I had your name in there cuz I know you entered. No harm no foul, okay? :^^;:
Edit has been made.
Cheers!
D

[Undertow]

On the Creature of the Week 9 voting, and a minor bitch
I voted for you Dave. Negrotuerto didn't really capture the idea of the concept IMHO. THe lantern fish idea is too overused, and furthermore his cute factor isn't cute, it's kind of disturbing looking. I can't see anyone approaching that thing.
"Dude, there's some freakish gonzo nosed child looking at us."
"Let's throw rocks at i- aaaactually, is your paintball marker in the truck?"
"Good call, I'll be right back."
At least in your piece it's cute enough on the top side that you'd actually look at it and think that it was cute enough to approach it, and attempt to touch it. Then again I think that people are basing the COW voting off the illustration not the concept, which is why I don't compete. I'm not good enough to garner too many votes based on my artistic ability.. and being that most of them have been voted on based on the illustration and not the conceptual design I'm not going to bother until my illustration skill matches my conceptual design ability. As much as I love Cakes creatures I'm going to have to agree with Fozzy and say that I think he took the cheap way out of the last competition. Although it was humorous having a random ass element like the easter egg in there, conceptually it didn't seem like it was originally drawn for COW and he just threw the egg in there for eligibility(you're still the man though Cake).

Now onto this Saturdays drizzledome
I like the idea of individual challenges for voting simplicity. Unless we were to make the deadline 10pm (2200 for military folks) and then do voting like the TDome in San Fran where we seperated the entries into different skill levels, a 1v1 makes more sense. If it's a 1 on 1, I'll take on anyone, even Kekai (bring it on bro);) Hey man, you should try to brow beat Xia into showing up for a change, it'd be nice to see him. On a side note, is anyone else going to try to make it to ArtNot for life drawing on Saturday?

-MV

[redehlert]

Hey Mike - first, thanks for the vote! The reason I didn't vote for Negro was that it looked too similar to the COW 2 - "Don't touch that!" winner, only that this creature has the bait coming from the other end. I think peeps are voting on it for the rendering, which is pretty tight, if I do say so myself. Second, do you truly care about the vote? You really shouldn't, hoss. It is much more fun to have the topic and the deadline and just go from there. However, I must say that I went ga-ga when Mike Coriero (sorry if I butchered the last name) voted for my jelly belly in COW 8 - that really meant a lot to me! In fact, each vote or personal input I do get is bolstering to say the least! However, I got one sympathy vote from a coworker of mine for COW 6 and zero votes in COW 7 and yet I still went at it. So pony up, bro, have fun and make mine a double!

As for drizzledome this Saturday - Mike, you're allllll mine.

Cheers!
Dave

[Sok N. Wett]

I didn't get jack shit vote on my COW 8 entry, but i had alot of feedbacks on what to look for, that was really what I wanted more than the vote, was the constructive critisim. Overall good fun.

[Sapphire]

I got absolutely NO COW feedback except for people kind enough to visit my sketchbook thread, and I have to say I totally agree about the voting system, and people choosing rendering over concept. I'm getting increasingly frustrated, because I do try with these entries, and don't get so much as a mention in any post talking about the entries for that week. I feel like everybody gets mentioned at some point but me, and it's discouraging and depressing. I think I'm not going to do COW anymore... at least not at the moment. It's good to get feedback, either way, and I want to learn, and that's just not happening. I feel kind of in a bad place right now about my art, and as shallow as it sounds, encouragement goes a long way.

Dave, did you say something about coming up to B-ham?

[Sok N. Wett]

Don't worry about it Sarah...sometimes I wish the big proffesionals would come to my sketchbook and give me some really good crits and encouragement, but that's not going to happen until I do something so good that they will notice. I mean if anything people notice the elites first before, hence really good at drawing and coloring, or just tight rendering, which i haven't achieved yet. If it's any consideration Sarah, I really like your COW entry, it was cute, and would be deadly, I mean shit a freakin' kitten scratch my eyes and I thought it was cute, it was my fault when i blew below the belt to figure if it was male or female....

[Prehistoric]

this was my first time doing the COW, and though it was a lot of fun, i can see where the complaints are coming from. thankfully okelvin did a mass crit on everyone's piece, otherwise no one's said a thing about mine. i think he hit the nail on the head talking about how mine is going to get lost as a pencil drawing in a sea of wacoms. that's where i see most of the bias coming into play. i think there's a prevailing attitude on this site of digital paintings being the only finished work. sorry, i don't have a wacom. i really want one, and i really want to learn how to use one, but they're so damn expensive.

anyway, i've always loved drawing with a pencil, and if that's not good enough for some people, too bad. meh! :moon:

don't think i'll be doing this weeks COW, but i'm not turned off. i think i'll try for next week.

[redehlert]

Hey Guys,
May I ask what is stopping you for posting something in the voting section regarding getting crits? In essence, don't feel put off - take the time to do a crit of some or of all 30 plus entries and at the end say something like - I'd love it if people could give me feedback so I can improve and apply it to my next COW. The grubble grubble is beneath all of you and you know it. Ask and you shall receive. In fact, I'm going to give crits on each piece from the Seattle based crew in the voting section right now. Will I see you there?
Peace.
D

[Prehistoric]

dave-

i really think my comment was more observation and less complaint. that is to say, that i don't take offense to it. but i know what you're talking about. so yeah, i'm gonna go crit some more in the spirit of "you get what you give". the thing that's stopping me from asking for comments is that i don't want to seem petulant. i still think there's a digital bias, but that's ok. it will either make me try even harder with non-digital media, or force me to sell off some of my worldly possessions to buy a tablet. :painting:

[redehlert]

Yo! I've posted crits on COW 9. Go looksee.
Sok, I vow to crit on COW 8 and will PM you on it, k?
Prehistoric - yeah, I hear ya - not cheap, but perhaps you'll bid on one of the items on ebay. I'd suggest going with a 6x8" tablet - I have an Intuos 2 and it's great for me at the office.
EBAY - Wacom Bid Site (http://search.ebay.com/wacom-tablet_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8)
Petulant or not, ask for feedback.
Cheers!
D

[Sapphire]

Only reason I haven't posted my own crits is that I almost feel not worthy of giving criticism. It's a matter of taking one's own advice, so to speak. ;) However, if people value it, I'll give some. I'll go head over now and check out your comments, David. :)

[Sok N. Wett]

Cool thanks Dave, I will go off and crit on COW 9

[Undertow]

I'm not worried about getting votes Dave. I'm really slow when it comes to renderring and that's what's really required. Unlike some of these guys that go to school and have tons of free time, I have a full time day job in the Navy, a business that I run at night, and a wife... our version of quality time is her sitting on the couch in my office playing Lumines on the PSP while I work on the computer. Remember, unlike the civilian world, I'm expected to have ironed creases and shiny boots when I go to work. It's more or less a no no to bring my sketch book with me, as there is a rule that we're not to have non-military related work or reading material in the work center (unless it's school work).

With regards to this weekend, I accept your challenge Dave. Just tell your wife that you wont be coming home later because I will OWN YOU!! j/k It's cool that you challenged me because I'm sure Kekai would've been too much of a candy ass to go toe to toe with me anyway. Yeah that's right Cake.. you know wtf is up ;) j/k
MV

[redehlert]

Mike - you're just a squirrel lookin' for a nut in this drizzle-on-my-nizzle challenge, aren't ya? I'll sink you like a three foot putt! If you were a cereal, it'd be a toss up for either Fruit Loop or Special K!
.....hmmm....what other high school smack downs can I resurrect?

Ahhh....just like an artist, I'm drawin' a blank......

Okay, so here's my life in a nutshell - full time job, a wife, workout 5 days a week, have a side business where I'm currently taking on 3 medical legal projects and also manage an apartment complex of 32 units with my wife.

I'll sketch on a pad in the pad whilst watchin' tv with Kris and other times, I'm doing it at work on my lunch hour so I'm only poppin' about 6 hours into my creature production and about 3 hours into thinkin' about it before hand.
Pissin' contest aside, do what you're good at - post it in pencil or in ink - ain't no shame in that, bru. Prehistoric did it and I was damn happy to see that! My first COW was in pencil on toned paper. Gotta get in bud. How about if we all vow to post our COW 10 as pencil/pen (eg traditional)? Can I get an amen? Solidarity bru.
Cheers,
D

[Undertow]

fine, I'll enter next weeks COW.
-MV

[redehlert]

YAYYYYYY BOOOOOOOYYYYY! Bring the noise.
Damn proud of ya, Mike. Shall we all do it in traditional media?
Peace.
D

[Prehistoric]

Skrubbles, you coming this week? i'll take you on if you are!

otherwise i'm gonna challenge kekai and try not to get my ass kicked!

[Sok N. Wett]

Hmmm I thought I was going to take Kekai on......Like i would want to lose that bad...

Man that was the longest crit I had ever had to do, but well worth it, hope they don't take it personal, I tried my best :)

[Prehistoric]

oh, sok. didn't know you were coming up this week.

i'll be your opponent if you like. that is if Lou doesn't accept, since i did call him out first.

[Sok N. Wett]

I might, have a high chance of going, hopefully, but yeah if not I'll take ya on.

[Sapphire]

Well, if we're all making a statement about traditional media being awesome, I might be willing to do another COW, also. Not terribly inspired by the topic, but I'll see if I can participate.

Maaan, wish I could take part in this mini-mini T-dome you guys have goin' on... I'll try and see if I can be in town. If not, have fun, and post the entries!

[redehlert]

Okay, so here's my thought on this current COW - siren.
First of all, I'm not interested in making anything humanoid, so I was considering playing off of the name 'siren' and creating variations from that. Huh? Let me explain - my current concept is a psi-ren - a creature with a big ass brain capable of creating images and thoughts via audio projection thereby drawing prey toward it. "Hey Bill! You hear that? Holy shit! Look at the breasts on that girl over there....! Let's go!" (Little do they know it's just a mirage....
The idea is totally open, don't be afraid to look up a word and see what it means. Sapphire - there is an eel-like aquatic NA salamander with small forelimbs and no hind limbs and permanent external gills that is called a Siren. I can totally see you doing a play off of this. Just think - limitless possibilities once again! Wow them with your ability to go beyond lore - the few entries in thus far are too literal in my mind. Right now, it's coming down to who can render human anatomy (boobs and butts) the best.
Just my thought, and I will do mine as traditional this go around...please join me!

BTW - thank you all so very much for your crits!!!! Much obliged and will take all thoughts into consideration. :}

Cheers!
D

[tagHeuer]

Hmmm....Who should I challenge, perhaps an Eli vs. Eli battle?

By the way. I’m working on a little something for COW 10 as well. ;)

[tagHeuer]

Ok so here is a match.

TagHeuer Vs. Gabe Jakson. A Boris Vallejo style drawing with a bad ass warrior standing atop a pile of his dead foe’s (these could be cyborgs or ninjas or something like that). He must be wielding a large weapon and should have two women grasping at his ankles and adoringly looking up at him.

The winner will be the one with the manliest drawing.

[xia]

First off,

I am so pround of you Seattle Artie who participate in COW and or CAsketchbook! :D
It's a great execercise, we got awesome turn out.
I look up the entries there were like eight or nine from WA or Seattle in the last two entry!

RedAlert>> You are kicking ass, better and better everysingle post. You improve so much in such short amount of time. Awesome rendering shit...kudos to you mang!

Sok>>You miss the recent one, but I am glad you did enter the last one. Great job hope you'll do somethin for the up coming one.

Prehistoria>> Nope, we haven't met but great job on the entry.

Sapphire>>Yes, you should do another COW. Highly recommended, the more you do the better you'll get. Plus, it's fun!

Undertow>> Yes, you should enter COW for sure. I saw your CA sketchbook. I like them. Can't wait to see what you would come up with.

Oregano>> Where were you on the last COW?

Taghauer>> What's up? Havn't seen you in the session in a while. You must be busy or somethin...it great to see you still going to Seattle Sketch session. Keep up the good work, Bro.

Kekai>> Nobody likes you.

Dougbot>> Jesus doesn't like you.

Xia>> Get lost! and do some better work, stop being suck all the goddamn time.

And Hello to all of you Seattle if you have sometime, you should too. COW'll be the next BIG thing other than CA sketch book. :)

Later folks, I'll see ya later.


does Xia ever show up for sketch night?

i don't think i've met him before. . . .

Not really, once in a while when JP's around. I am usually hiding at the life drawing session, thinking about showing up at the sketch group more. Sorry, I know I miss out so many things. :)

[Prehistoric]

Xia-

what's wrong with you?! come to sketch night this week! :wink:

oh, and Bojee, i see you checking out the thread. i know you don't think you know me, but you do. my name's Zack. used to work at Utrecht's. ring any bells. i've heard you're no longer in seattle, but if you come back to visit, come to sketch night. love your sketchbook thread, by the way. give us some new work.

[skrubbles]

Prehistoric - I should be showing showing up saturday since Mike's picking me up early in the morning for and all day draw-a-thon WOOO WOOO! Anyway, who picks the topic? If you're up to it I have a strange urge to draw a pirate... so how about we each draw up a pirate design eh? Should be fun since pirates kick so much ass. But if this is to boring for ya, let me know and we'll do something else.

[Prehistoric]

pirates it is matey!!

:pirate: yaaarrggh!

i'll see you there, ya landlubber!

[Sok N. Wett]

Nice....Lou hopefully I'l be there, I miss you so much like we was seperated at birth....remember when we use to crack hella jokes....oh man....memories

I got you babe, da da, da da, da da
I got you babe, da da, da da, da da

Xia you better be there.....how's house of flying daggers, and kung fu hustle?

[jetpack42]

Who is this Xia character you are all talking about?

Oh man, I remember the days, me, sok and lou smashed in the truck doin 70. sok, i never had the guts to tell you, but you smelled nice.

rough riders 04!

[skrubbles]

fun times fun times... yeah sok, I'll be there and it'd be cool if you popped up to join in on the drizzledomium... you too Jetpack. When's the next time you'll be back up in seattle again? are you getting a summer vacation?

And I guess I didn't smell good eh? maybe I just smelled :( lol

[prostate sunrise]

zak, xia doesnt come anymore because of his facination with import dvds. its actually very unhealthy, and we're planning an intervention pretty soon.

good idea with the thunderdome.

lol, sure mike, too bad i sux the roxxor.

and xia, you need help.

thanks for the congrats on the COW.

and one last thing, is sketch group on friday or satuday this week?

[Prehistoric]

saturday night, buddy.

Lou - get your pirate reference material ready!

[jetpack42]

nah lou, i never got a chance to smell you. don't worry, next time I am in town we can rectify that. (memorial weekend sat sketch night).

sok was always sitting between us, and he's got a good big smell for a little fellah. reminded me of Orchids blooming in the Amsterdam Floating Flower Market...


ok..i made that up.

[Sok N. Wett]

I didn't know my fart smelled that good....I'm like a farting potporri then :)

[jetpack42]

that was farting?

truely...bizzare...

[Undertow]

Alright, now that I know the Seattle group needs to start mandatory drug testing...

Redehlert: What're we going to do for a topic Dave? I need to get research done tonight.

ProstateSunrise: Shit dude, if I knew we were using L33T speak....;)

Sok: It'll be good to see ya man.

XIA: I used to be addicted to import DVD's back when I lived in the U District 5 blocks away from Scarecrow Video. I can tell you now that it's an expensive, and unhealthy habit. You will lose friends, family, and signifigant others if you keep this up. Consider this your intervention, get the fuck out of the house and be social for a change;)

All: I'm spending the night in Seattle tomorrow to go bar hopping with Lou, Kat (Lou's gf), and Rachael (my wife). If any of the rest of ya's want to hang out tomorrow night, grab a few drinks, and let loose for the evening, say the word and you can meet up with us.
-MV

[redehlert]

I just spent the last 3 minutes laughing my ass off! Sure, I could write LMAO, but whudufuk? At any rate, I'm diggin' how tight a group this is and I'm damn skippy gonna kick Mike's ass in this drizzledome thang.
As for what to do, Mike - I spy something slimey, scaley, and smells like saffron - a bit like JP42. :wink:
Seriously, you pick an animal and I'll pick an animal and then we'll have to combine them in some way that is beneficial to it in its environment. If that is gay is all get out (and I mean gay in the joyful sense) and you want something darker, then give me an idea. I haven't had any coffee yet, so I'm a little brain numb.
Xia - thanks for the post and the kudos...really appreciate that!
Bojee - where are you?
Cheers!
D

[Undertow]

dear god, animals? If there's one thing that I can't draw without having to spend countless hours researching and practicing it's animals. Creatures are ok, industrial design is ok, buildings, anything but real world animals. That's why I go to the zoo, to practice drawing animals because I suck so horribly at drawing them from memory.
-Mike

[redehlert]

LOL! Mike, my friend, then you decide. Anything you bring to the table is fair game to me. I'm not good at robots, buildings, or bung holes (okay, I CAN draw a pretty decent anal sphincter - but it's not because I go to the zoo and study animal puckers....it's just my background, okay....? :x
At any rate, the floor is yours, hoss - I like a challenge and will do my best to spank your ass rosy.
Cheers!
D

[Prehistoric]

Alright, now that I know the Seattle group needs to start mandatory drug testing...

uuuhh. . . . . .ahem. . . .ummmm. . . . .hmmmm. . . . :bashful:



All: I'm spending the night in Seattle tomorrow to go bar hopping with Lou, Kat (Lou's gf), and Rachael (my wife). If any of the rest of ya's want to hang out tomorrow night, grab a few drinks, and let loose for the evening, say the word and you can meet up with us.
-MV

i'd be down to meet up for a few drinks. that is, as long as i'm not too much of a 5th wheel. pm me with the info, or a cell # or something.

[Sok N. Wett]

Got started on my concept today for COW 10, decided to go traditional, so all pencil again. I should be finish before Sunday. I can't wait to see everyone's entry.

[S.C. Watson]

Oregano>> Where were you on the last COW?


The pasture? :P

[Undertow]

Dave,
I think it was Sok that said he wanted to see me draw something midevil.. how do you feel about doing something with a D&D theme to it?

[Sok N. Wett]

Yup that was me....that would be aweshum!!

[redehlert]

Sure thing, Mike. I'll get all wonky on the D&D, but make mine advanced. sheeeeeit. So, what be the topic? Hopefully not a knight....I suck at armor. :nohope:
Sok - bravo man. I keep hopin' I'll get an op to do COW 10 - my med legal projects are beginning to eat up all of my spare time - mine will definitely be traditional (or at least tradigital, kinda like Dan Milligan, whereas the sketch is done in Photoshop or Painter, but unlike Dan no coloring is entered into the mix).
Cheers!
D

[skrubbles]

so who bought their starwars episode III ticket for the midnight showing on may 18th at the cinerama? I did :) :p they went on sale last night and they're already sold out. Just wondering who else here is going.

STAR WARS!

/nerd

[Undertow]

Sure thing, Mike. I'll get all wonky on the D&D, but make mine advanced. sheeeeeit. So, what be the topic? Hopefully not a knight....I suck at armor. :nohope:
D
hmm.. how about a cross between a ninja/samurai w/non traditional mask/headgear and half plate armor? Preferred weapon is a rope dart attached to a katana or a naginata (whichever you think is cooler). If you choose a Katana with rope dart, he must have a Wakazashi as well. Armor can be stylized ala Shinobi, Ninja Gaiden, or Onimusha style incorporating both ninja and samurai aspects. That way you don't have to draw full plate. Alright, now your part is to come up with an enchanted item for the character. It can be any of his weapons, an armor piece, etc. This will be to throw a mystical/magic element into the design for added flare.
-MIke

[redehlert]

Um.....so, I just wrapped up a fairly long night and morning of med legal and am about to head off to UW work and just read your idea, Mike. :zzz:
Can I have that in English, mate? I'm totally clueless, but perhaps he/she has an enchanted dildo or string of anal beads. :tihi:
Hopefully I can do some research on these elements you have in mind and be prepared, otherwise, I'm toast.
Peace.
d

[David York]

I'll get all wonky on the D&D, but make mine advanced.

Wow! I don't think I've ever heard anything quite so beautifully geek as that.

[Undertow]

Um.....so, I just wrapped up a fairly long night and morning of med legal and am about to head off to UW work and just read your idea, Mike. :zzz:
Can I have that in English, mate? I'm totally clueless, but perhaps he/she has an enchanted dildo or string of anal beads. :tihi:
Hopefully I can do some research on these elements you have in mind and be prepared, otherwise, I'm toast.
Peace.
d
well aren't we the uncultured medical illustrator;) j/k Dave.
I figured I'd hook you up and do some of your research for you
Naginata picture (http://www.naginata.org/background.html)
Wakazashi (http://www.ncjsc.org/wak-1.html)
Rope Dart (http://www.quanonline.com/wushu2000/detail_rope_dart.html)
Last Samurai Photos (Armor in action) (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1127779-last_samurai/photos.php)
Stand Alone Samurai Armor (http://www.asahi-jc.com/kabuto.htm)
Ninja Gaiden (http://www.xbox.com/assets/en-us/Flash/games/ninjagaiden/index.html)
Onimusha 3 (http://www.capcom.com/oni3.html)
and finally everyones favorite ninja whose scarf defies the laws of physicsShinobi (http://www.shinobi-game.com/)
You're welcome;)
-MV

[Sok N. Wett]

Yo Dave and Mike, can I get on the action, it can be a threesome....the idea just looks too cool not to participate in.

[fab fox]

Yo, anyone want to battle me?

[redehlert]

By all means, Sok - we'll get a little ninja circle jerk goin'.
York - yup....tha'z the geek in me. :wink:
Mike - thanks bro....I was all concerned there - think I can do something with your links - much obliged!
Cheers!
D

add on: Hey David York - you should have a tag line that says:
"Once you bite into York…I'll be missing a body part."

[Prehistoric]

yo mike. you forgot about the big boy, the Dotanuki.

Dotanuki (http://www.thehoya.com/images/101504/Retro.jpg)

i believe the literal translation of which is "torso-cleaver". one big ass samurai sword.

[Sok N. Wett]

I put up my work in progress in the COW 10 thread, you can see it down below. The scanner compressed all my details, it looks better on paper.

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=455955#post455955

[redehlert]

compressed or not, that's a fab start, sok!
kick butt :blahblah: !
keep it goin' strong, hoss.
d

[David York]

add on: Hey David York - you should have a tag line that says:
"Once you bite into York…I'll be missing a body part."

Is that a challenge? If so, you should know that I know the Ultimate Ninja Move - I can run away very fast (it's from this movie (http://www.foutz.net/movies/redshadow.shtml)). You will never bite into me, Salmon-Boy. Quick! What are the five metallic dragons?

[redehlert]

ooh....a test! i do like dem tests...
1. gold 2. silver 3. copper 4. platinum 5. bronze
did i get em?
gotta realize that i hardly ever played d&d, but was a HUGE fan of dragonlance stories....they so rocked it.
salmon boy....crap....i thought something smelled fishy....guess it was me.
:x
peace!
d

[David York]

Haha, WRONG! I know you would fall for my trap! In AD&D (all 3 editions), the Platinum dragon was a manifestation of a God which was the Good-aligned counterbalance to the 5-headed Chromatic Dragon (in DragonLance, the Platinum Dragon is a manifestation of Paladine, whereas the 5-headed dragon is a manifestation of Takhisis). The correct answer is Gold, Silver, Bronze, Copper and Brass. I'll shut up now. See you tomorrow.

[redehlert]

Curse me and my dragonlance upbringing....
You know way too much Mr. Yorkpatty!
I'll stick to the salmon. >:D
Cheers!
D

[Undertow]

dear god, you 2 are the embodiment of the people I fear at conventions. As long as you don't talk about your characters around me we'll be cool;) Does John S. know about your in depth knowlege of Dragonlance Dave (redehlert)? BTW, I'm going to have to buy my reference from a book store tomorrow as my printer isn't hooked up to my computer in the new office set up (yet). Looks like we'll be going to Iwajimaya after life drawing Lou:)
-Mike

[redehlert]

hehehe....fear me white bread for i am no turkey.
i'll have to tell jon....will it get me fired or somethin?
at any rate, i can see about making duplicate prints of what you sent me, mike. how bout dat?
lemme know...almost audi from here.
peace.
d

[Sok N. Wett]

I'll make those prints as well just in case, so that way there will be no excuse to not come up with something kickass.

[Prehistoric]

Mike/Dave - i'll bring a couple of "Blade of the Immortal" books for your reference. :ninja:

[redehlert]

Hey Guys - I've got two sets of prints ready for tonight. The more stuff to see the merrier! I'm royally gonna get my ass umpa-lumpaaaad.
Peace.
d

[Sok N. Wett]

fab fox you should definately join the ninja circle competition, I think it would be better if we all did one subject, cause I dunno it would be fantastic to see everyone's take on one subject, and plus it help push people who hasn't tried that subject, into doing something new, and of course whomever win can get bragging rights for the whole week :P

[David York]

It's a few hours away, and are there any other subjects or challenges? I think it might turn into "Be Like Mike Day", which is cool.

fab fox - I would challenge you, but I think you'll have a better time with a stronger opponent.

[dylan]

I am not sure if I can attened or not. I work down the street from Vita and get off at 8. Are you guys and gals accepting walk-in challenges?

dylan

[David York]

Of course Dylan! Hope to see you there.

[Sok N. Wett]

Dylan, you should just jump into any challenges if not join me, Dave, and Mike on ours, just go straight to vita's after work, I'll even bring some papers and pencil ready for you :) Fab fox is looking for a challenge I believe.

[dylan]

I am up for the FabFox challenge. I re-read some of the post and coudln't find the info I was looking for. Are the challenge topics individualy decided?

Thanks, but no thanks, I have my own pencils ;)

I'll be there around 8:30. I am like a nervous 12 year old school girl. My first t-dome (mini as it may be) and my first jump into a sketch group.

dylan

[Sok N. Wett]

LOL.....schoolgirl....nervous.....not in Japan......but anyways I'm not sure how it was suppose to go, first I think it was suppose to be a group thing with one subject, then people started challenging people individually and then into oblivion. Well glad to have ya on board Dylan, shit I haven't been there for awhile and today I will be there.

[Prehistoric]

sok - shouldn't you have left already, bud? :D

yer gonna be LATE!!

[Sok N. Wett]

Zack I'm already there, by the time you come back and read this message you would have already seen me before reading this message, so therefore I am already there......:)

[redehlert]

Good seein' all ya'll yesterday! Nice turnout and excellent topics for the mini draw off. Next time I think we should all do the same thing or split right down the middle with the topics. We should also probably stop a little earlier so as to vote and then (if you want) to give thoughts about 2 good things on each piece and 1 crit for improvement.
I posted my COW 10 - Tiggo Bitty. Go check it out.... :teeth:
Okay...I'm off to do some med legal poop. That's figuratively, David York, not literally. hahahaha.....
Mike - glad to meet Rachel! She's pretty darn cool. Lou - Next time introduce your gal. :tihi:
Sok - glad you could make it!
Everyone else - same thing!!!
Peace.
d

[Sok N. Wett]

It was fun as hell guys, thanks to David York for taking me out. Nice to meet the new guys on board, like Gabe, and I didn't get the guy's name that had the default win by going against himself :),

ParkerD, dude I didn't even know you were there, sorry couldn't talk to you more, I was busy doing that 3 hour competition. I'm glad we meet for that minute though.

Lou good to see you again, buddy, and glad you brought Trina to the sketchmmet, I didn't see what she was drawing you should post it up :P

Eli, and Eli wish I had more time to catch things up with you guys.

David E. man that was the first time I've ever seen your sketchbook and i'm blown away. So much beautiful work, thanks for kicking my ass in the samurai contest, it taught me a good lesson.

Mike, David, Rachel, and Zach it was cool drinking with you guys. Shooting pool was fun, oh how I miss hanging out like that.

Mike thanks for pushing me to finish a complete picture in 3 hours, even though it looked crappy, but deadlines are deadlines.

dylan, with a lower case d, not Capital d, dude almost missed adding you, I guess it slipped my mine, but it was real cool for you to hang. That samurai was badass dude, I would love to see that color, I bet it would look awesome.

Phil (not even sure if you check the forums) it was always good to see ya, your drawing was the pimp, sigh you should have won, anyone with a overuse of blue, and 2 hot babes in chains deserve the crown. Good to see ya again!

Anyone else I miss it was good to see ya.

I finally posted my COW 10 entry, and man there are so many good designs this time around, more high quality work, than the last I think. It's going to be INSANE. Love your creature Ehlert....good shit......lol good name for it too.

[Undertow]

sorry I sucked ass on Saturday. I hadn't drawn anything for almost 3 weeks so I was a little rusty to say the least. It was great seeing such a large turnout for a change. I appologize that I didn't get to meet all of the new guys, I will rectify that next Saturday. Speaking of which, being that Saturdays seem to be a better day for everyone to show up the Saturday sketch groups can be the TDome days. We should set up our topic(s) now. I also propose that we start up a Seattle Sketch Group thread in the sketchbooks section. Starting next week we'll start uploading artwork to it showcasing the Seattle crew.

Redehlert (Dave) As I said before I sucked ass and got owned, good job man:) (even if it was by only one vote I'm eager to go at it again.) I've actually already started doing studies in my sketch book today and am going to have 3 full pages to update to my sketch book after I get home from work. Now that CTech has been delayed I'm able to focus on my artwork again and start the improvement process by working on my renderring and anatomy. I promise that I will be in top shape for our next duel, and will be ready for you.

Sok: Dude, it was awesome playing pool with you and Dave, we should definitely do that again... next time without the rediculous bar tab;)

Zack: It was great talking military history and tech with you, it's rare that I can find someone that holds the same interrest in tech and able to keep up a conversation for more than 5 minutes on the subject. Too bad you had to leave, we had a blast playing pool.

For those of you that care, as far as updates on Lou and I's game CthulhuTech, the word on the street is that our distributor is going out of business so the project is being delayed again.. we're actively looking for a new distributor but dependant upon the table top RPG market we may postpone release indefinitely. I'll post up a bunch of the CTech concept art to the Seattle Sketch Group thread (sketchbook) once we have it up and running. IN the mean time, take care everyone I can't wait to see you all next week!
-Mike V

[Sok N. Wett]

aww man that sucks Mike.....well at least I'll be able to see some sketches of the work, so it's all good.

[redehlert]

Hey Mike! I voted for yours...in case you were curious. I liked your pose and the attention to detail.... :}
At any rate, you didn't suck(!), but I'm happy to hear that you'll be posting more stuff soon. I know what you mean by getting rusty....happens to me all the time.
Good idea for the sketch book thread...I'm in.
Gonna be a busy week, but I still hope to do the COW11 - dream/nightmare eater. Now Mike, since you have the time how 'bout it?
As for our next duel....I'll be waitin' for ya, princess.

Peace!
d

[oomgawa]

Hey, Seattle,
Some of you know who I am and I thought possibly, just possibly you might be interested in the fact that I did the c.o.w.#10 (with fear and trepidation).

I've seen the work you guys/gals have been posting there and it is amazing. I particularly like the fact that there is such a high percentage of Seattle folks each week, sometimes I think you guys are taking over!

Anyway, I did the Hoh Siren, and would love to hear your comments and suggestions. I am new to the digital painting thing, and am miserably slow at it, but am willing to stick my neck out and learn in front of the whole world. :)

BTW, thanks for your nice comment Sok. I still haven't hooked usernames with real names, but someday I will attend a Friday night session, as I teach Portfolio on Friday afternoons this quarter. It would be great to get a post from someone letting me know the next Friday you are meeting. (Maybe Kekai could bring my Marko drawing) ;)

Thanks!
Kathryn Ault

[Sok N. Wett]

Next Friday meeting should be this week, I'll send you a message just in case you forget to check this thread, or maybe not cause your still looking at this thread.

[oomgawa]

Excellent!
Just tell me when and where. thanks!

Kathryn

[Sok N. Wett]

sent ya a message

[Undertow]

welll hellooooo Kathryn. I remember you from the workshop, I was outside smoking and drinking with you and Dave at the party.. and we ran into eachother at the Emerald City Comic Con. It's good to see you participating in our little corner of CA, welcome to the club:) The truly happenin' times to go to sketch group are on Saturdays, that seems to be the best day for everyone to show up. Either way, hope to see you around.
-Mike V

[oomgawa]

I remember you from the workshop, I was outside smoking and drinking with you and Dave at the party.. -Mike V

Hi Mike! Thanks for the welcome.
I do remember standing outside on the porch more than I did inside, seemed to be the place to meet the most interesting people. Plus I ran into quite a few people at ComicCon. . . so many new faces. . . alas, I might not be thinking of the right person. Well, I'll just have to attend the sketch group to find out, eh?

It is harder for me to make it into the city on Saturdays due to catching a ferry, but I'll try make it from time to time.

Look forward to seeing you again,
Kathryn

[David York]

Fantastic time guys! It was great to meet so many new people! Thunderdome was awesome. Hanging out after was awesome. See you a week from Saturday (I can't make it this Friday).

[Sapphire]

i'm sorry I never did the siren like I promised! I am going all out on the dream/nightmare eater, and it's going to be a rather personal piece, as dreams and nightmares for me are both a major source of creativity and a bane. I'll be posting sketches of that stuff in my thread once I have more, but I'm definitely inspired this time.

oomgawa, your entry was fantastic! I think I'm going to vote for it... I haven't voted yet. It's between you and one other person. I love how you threw in the local reference, I like that rainforest. She looks like a Firebird.

I hope I can make it to the next sketch night, I want to get down there this weekend.

[prostate sunrise]

(Maybe Kekai could bring my Marko drawing) ;)


ummm...*cough*... :^^;: (eixts door)