Southern California

[character]

sketch meet? who what huh? i can't make this one on the 22nd but maybe one next month? can be done at my pad or we can meet here at least and then head somewhere. i'm up in tarzana btw, basicly where the 405 and the 101 meet. i've only been here a few months so i don't know any cool places to go around here so if anyone has any ideas, shoot away

[LiL QoH]

im all for the norton simon idea, I have to go there for art history homework anyway haha :]

[Sinix]

:yayca:

I haven't been to the block in forever... can anyone that somewhat knows the place give us a good time and specific place to meet up at this saturday?

[|NTeRN]

saturday nights get crowded fast so i'd say get there around 5:30 - 6 if you want to get parking. theres a nice lil spot with some cheaper fast food places ( quiznos, a pizza place, a few hamburger places, baja grill, and so on)

a good place to meet up would be in front of the theatres. id say look fro fukifini if your coming.... hes the tall guy in the group so the easiest to spot :blah:

[Sinix]

Yea, I'm wondering if it's a good idea to try to meet people at a place like the block on a saturday night, probably packed with kids and who knows what.

[fukifino]

*shrug* The way I see it, the more people the better...gives me more people to draw (even if half of them won't sit/stand still for more than 2 seconds.) Unless we have a huge number of people show up and finding one place for us all to sit down becomes an issue, I don't think it's all that bad.

[Sinix]

Alright.. so should we call it?

Saturday, the 22nd at the Block. Meeting at 5:30 in front of the theaters.

That's the plan, unless notified of change.

[saraesc]

I just looked at that place online.

it looks like freakin disney world.
god i hope i can get a drink there

[fukifino]

Haha, it's just an outdoor mall, saraesc. There are plenty of restaurants and even a brewery (I'm assuming you mean alcoholic beverage.)

I'll be there for sure. But I'll probably only be there a few hours, depending on when this rave I'm supposed to go to starts.

[jetpack42]

anybody from Encinitas or Souther going?

[fukifino]

I could take you there (since I'll be down there in the morning for class), but getting back would be up to you. :o

[Rathbone]

*shrug* The way I see it, the more people the better...gives me more people to draw (even if half of them won't sit/stand still for more than 2 seconds.)

That's the way I see it too. More fun to draw a crowd. I'll be there for sure. See you soon.
-BEE-RAD

[jetpack42]

I could take you there (since I'll be down there in the morning for class), but getting back would be up to you. :o

oh snap...hmmm....how long does it take to walk 60 miles?

[fukifino]

Well let's see..I think the average person walks at about 7mph? So only about 10 hours! You can doo eeeet!

[|NTeRN]

its pretty easily to find people if you know the meeting place. CSF had a skecth group every weekend and we never had a problem not finding everyone. just exchange cell numbers so if you need to locate someone you can

and ya its pretty much just a big outdoor mall

p.s. the best place to sketch is Vans skate park. half the time your laughing you ass off at lil kids falling :tihi:

[Sinix]

Well let's see..I think the average person walks at about 7mph? So only about 10 hours! You can doo eeeet!

What the pfft, who walks 7mph? No wonder I could never keep up with you. Average is like 4mph.

[LiL QoH]

So is this a sketchbook session type deal? I'll try to make it before work if Im awake by then :]

[fukifino]

I think that's the goal, Terrie. I know I'll be bringin' my sketch stuffs. :D

5:30 in front of the theaters. I'll be dere. :D

[Sinix]

Yea, cya tomorrow guys. I hope I remember how to get there.

[saraesc]

can't make it. schools already sinking its teeth in hard.

maybe next time. :[

[LiL QoH]

dooods I don't work tomorrow so I can stay :D I'll be lookin for ya forest since you'll be mr talliepants

[Sinix]

Well, it was only 4 people, but it's a start.. got acouple pages of drawing in, had some fun tag teaming with rathbone. We gotta get more collaborations and fun stuff going early on.

Anyway, the goal is weekly.. so anyone have any input on where to go next saturday (or friday.. the seattle group alternated days)?

[StephenC]

Yo, San Diegans,

Anyone know when and where some "good"(by good i mean cheap) life drawing workshops are in SD? I heard a rumor of a $2 workshop existing somewhere down here....I was gonna ask life drawing section but figured you all might have some better information.

much appreciation if you can help out...
thanks,

[fukifino]

Did anyone else post their sketches from sketch night? I posted my measly two pages in my sketchbook thread.

As for where we should have the next one...the Block was decent, although it sounds like there were lots of parking troubles. (Not an issue if you just suck it up and assume you're going to be walking, ya lazy bastards) I'd be fine with someplace slightly less popular. ;)

It'd be nice to do it in something like a coffee shop or something. Someplace cozy with a decent number of tables where we could just chill and draw. Of course, sometimes finding enough room for a small group can be hard at places like that, depending on the night and how popular the particular venue is.

But it's an idea...

(And I have no idea about your question, Stephen, sorry.)

[Sinix]

It'd be nice to do it in something like a coffee shop or something. Someplace cozy with a decent number of tables where we could just chill and draw.


Anyone know one?

[Kambei]

I know of a handful of coffee shops up in the west la area..

Literati is fun
Insomniac off La Brea
Urth on Melrose is nice..

We'd have to get to one early.. but very nice environments.. chill good to sketch in.. Or hell we could make a day out of going to LACMA, Getty and sketching in one of their cafe shops..

[fukifino]

I like the idea of going to the Getty. That place is great, and there are plenty of benches/tables/whatever to hang out at. Plus if you need some inspiration, just wander around one of the exhibits. I've only been there once, but have been meaning to go back.

How late are they open, though? Don't they close at sundown? Unfortunately, I have a Saturday class in San Diego that doesn't get out til 1:30. Not that that's really a big deal..I could still get to the Getty by...4? If everyone else was already there for a few hours, I could deal with only getting an hour of draw on with everyone. We could always move to a nearby coffee shop afterwards?

[PhilHolland]

For a little while I went to the Getty every weekend to sketch.
Very cool place to do that sort of thing. Lot's of space.
Lot's of people to look at.
Easy access to snacks too.

[Groover McNab]

Getty is a good idea.

[Sinix]

I don't know anything about the getty.. does it cost money to get in or park or anything? Where is it (mapquest address)?

Sounds like a good idea though... should we call this weeks sketchgroup (jan. 29th) for the getty sometime in the afternoon?

[PhilHolland]

Technically, admission is free.
Parking however, is $7.

Hours:
Tuesday–Thursday 10 a.m.–6 p.m.
Friday and Saturday 10 a.m.–9 p.m.
Sunday 10 a.m.–6 p.m.
Closed Monday

Directions
http://www.getty.edu/visit/gethere.html

Here's the link the the event calendar as well:
http://www.getty.edu/visit/calendar/months/200501.html

[|NTeRN]

getty sounds awesome. ive been meaning to head back there. any ideas when this will go down? maybe more then 4 peeps will come this time too :bashful:

[Lauren Short]

edit: nm, i thought it was closed until fall haha

but yea sounds like fun =)

[Sinix]

Maybe we should set the getty for 2 or 3 weeks from now so we can get a good number of people interested in going. Althought we still need to get something for this saturday.. as the sketchgroup is supposed to be weekly. The block was good, but the travel time for rath was kinda high... looking at a map... maybe somewhere around brea would be good?

[|NTeRN]

birch st then? in the middle of brea, lots of people, 2 starbucks in the area, a few ice cream shops, a ninja sword shop and movie theatres. also pretty good parking if you get there early.

right off imperial and i think brea blvd or something like that

[Sinix]

There's also a guitar center near there \m/... lol

I dunno, I'm sure we could find some decent hangout around there.

[Rathbone]

Getty or Brea are fine with me. As for the Block.. I would have cut about 20 min off my travel time if I had gotten off at the right exit, but it's only suppose to be a 40 min drive. :) And I'm not too clear on when you guys are going to the Getty. I'll go with the idea that we should wait a few weeks so that more people have a chance to see this and prepare, and if it is this weekend then I'm fine with that.

[|NTeRN]

so brea this saturday?

[Sinix]

Where do you wanna meet? We could meet around that theater (regal? used to be called edwards).. on.. birch and brea is it? Then we could walk somewhere from there.. pretty sure there's at least a starbucks and whatnot.

[Noc]

is this in san diego? I would love to meet some of you peoples, if not where at maybe me and a friend or two could drive up to meet yall.

[|NTeRN]

its in brea. about an hour and a half north of SD with no traffic. id say met infront of the theatres. jsut check both i guess. time?

[jetpack42]

is this in san diego? I would love to meet some of you peoples, if not where at maybe me and a friend or two could drive up to meet yall.

Depending...would you want to stop on the way and pick me up? I live just off the 5 in Encinitas....will chip in for gas...

[Sinix]

I know forest isn't going.. does rath wanna go today? We could just skip this week if noones going. If we did go, the time would be at 5:30 and we could meet in between the two theater buildings. But, wait until at least someone else is going. I just woke up, so I'd be half asleep by tonight.

[Sinix]

Well, this saturday, feb. 5th. We're gonna try to sketch in brea.

[fukifino]

Someone hook me up with an address or sumpin' so I can mapquest it.

[Sinix]

It's right on the corner of birch and brea... the regal entertainment brea stadium 22 theater.

[Noc]

bleh, so much for meeting up. I have a workshop Im going to this saturday or I would go. and picking you up would be no prob...I gotta rember to keep looking back here for meet up times though for next time.

[trevor]

hey guys long time no see
if ya wanna meet up at a bbq and bar for a good cause and draw that would be even better
ive spent the last month putting these 2 shows together for this weekend
id really appreciate anyone who shows up seeing as how all proceeds go to the red cross
and you cant beat 10 bands for 5 bucks(all good rock and freakin roll)
heres the info

saturday
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/trevorclaxton/tsunami-banner.jpg

friday
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/trevorclaxton/benefit2.jpg

im playing saturday if anyones wondering
starts btween 3 and 4 for bbq 5 for bands

thanx

[fukifino]

Hey, Sinix...what time are we meeting? Is anyone planning on getting dinner there? Are there restaurants there? Coffee shops? How late is everyone planning on staying? Who's coming? :D

[Sinix]

Hey, Sinix...what time are we meeting? Is anyone planning on getting dinner there? Are there restaurants there? Coffee shops? How late is everyone planning on staying? Who's coming? :D

5:30 seems to be the standard, we'll get something or other to eat.. hopefully we can find a good place to draw, there's at least starbucks and stuff. We'll just hang out until we want to leave.. like last time. I'm guessing matt and brad will go, I'll try to ask later.

[Rathbone]

I can be in Brea around 5:30. I guess I'll be staying for a few hours at least enough time to get in a good amount of sketching. There's plenty of places there to get food, maybe Fatburger and there's a Tower Records. So count me in.

[|NTeRN]

im there :dur:

[jetpack42]

mat, are you still going to be going to OC sketch nights when you move down near Watts?

[|NTeRN]

i might hit a few but i really dont know... once i move out i dunno how often id want to go back. but if i do i'll be sure to let ya know to give ya a call to drive ya down

[llothcat]

dedicated to southern calif artists and i've missed it for years..this one!

hiya! I'm in the 909...er..now the 951

whatever.

:D

[fukifino]

Hello llothcat. :D Welcome aboard.

To everyone else. I posted one of the four collab's we did at last night's sketchmeet in my SB thread. You can see it at the bottom of this post! (http://conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=400615&postcount=46)

Now just need Brad, Mat and Rob to post theirs. :D

[Sinix]

Mine is in my DSB too. Also, the next sketchgroup will be in TWO weeks... the 19th... probably around 5:30pm... not sure where yet.

[fukifino]

This may not fly for everyone, but how do y'all feel about going to the San Diego Wild Animal Park? Or the San Diego Zoo? I think that would be an awesome place to draw (and for those that haven't been to the WAP, it's pretty freakin' cool).

The grounds close at 5, which is the only major drawback. I don't know what y'alls schedules are like, but we could make a Sunday out of it (I don't get out of school til 1:30 on Saturdays, which would only leave a couple of hours there).

San Diego Zoo/WAP Website (http://www.sandiegozoo.org/index.html) Tickets are around 30 bucks.

*edit*
Here's a way to get an Adult ticket for the price of a Childs ticket! (http://www.sandiegozoo.org/hotels/hotels_preferred.html#waptix)

[Sinix]

It would be a good place to draw, it's kinda a long drive tho. Still, an idea to keep in mind. That and the Getty... we should probably wait until we start getting more regulars tho... even tho it doesn't seem to be happening.

[fukifino]

Long drive, shmong drive. I drive down to SD 3 times a week, ya wuss. :P

[Noc]

I would love to go to the zoo and draw, and if it were to be made a regular thing the year passes are fairly cheap. also being down here would make it easier for me and some of my friends to meet up with yall...we usually meet up around the weekend anyways to sketch mainly for this concept class we got.

im not sure if the year pass is a better deal, but I think one of my teachers can get some kind of deal on a half year pass if she gets enough people to sign up. tell me what yall think and Ill look into it for ya.

also to any of you that go to watts I think Ill be seeing you next term, im going to be taking 4 classes at my school (AI) and one at watts.

[|NTeRN]

i would love to go to the zoo. me likey the purdy animals.

[|NTeRN]

k guys im in Vista and currently dont have a lot to do. for anyone at Watts PLEASE gimme a call on my cell so we can go drawin or what not. # is 562 818 1713. im on my cuz's internet right now so i wont be online for a few more days on my comp. anyways gimme a call if you want to chill. im only about 15 mins from the school itself

[Sinix]

Congrats on moving. I guess our sketchgroup is down to 3 people now.. ahh.. we might need to do stuff down near the school.

[fukifino]

So...what's the plan for this weekend? We still gettin' together?

[|NTeRN]

i know this saturday night were having something near watts so if your still in the area (i dont know whens you last class at watts) you should come

[fukifino]

My class gets out at 1:30

[Sinix]

Something near watts? Maybe I'll go if you can get details and whatnot.

[|NTeRN]

oh.. well i have work till 6pm so afterwards were doing something. i dunno if you want to stay or head back home... maybe in a few weeks when you have somwthing in brea again i'll head on out there to vistit the family. i'll be able to bring a few watts kids that dopnt have cars there to

[fukifino]

I might hang out then...I still have a class to make up, and if I can sit in on Rons clothed figure class I will.

[skullsquid]

Oi long time since I last visited here.
Just dropping by to say that im still alive.
Btw hey Trevor.

[fukifino]

Hey Mat, what are the details of this little get together tomorrow? When/where/what, etc... I don't wanna be waiting around in SD and not be able to meet up with you guys.

[|NTeRN]

i think it might be best to get a hold of otto.. i dont know the area but i figured just going to a local coffee place near watts.

[|NTeRN]

if its raining tomorrow i might haveto pass causei dotn realy want to be driving on thr freeway at night in the rain in an area thats new to me. but most likly i'll go cause im kinda bored over here. just ignore me.... ya... ill be there

[Sinix]

Yea, it's raining like mad and I've been awake for awhile, so I'm not gonna make it to anything today.

[|NTeRN]

sorry for cancelling but since i dont want to be on thr freeway at night during another down pour like we've been getting i decided just to do it another time.

[bboyrealm]

just curious if there are any upcoming meets or sketch gatherings...I just registered and was curious. Looking forward to meeting people who share the same passion and interests!!!

[Nixon]

hey d00ds. any folks in the valley or ventura county? I live in thousand oaks and worked in sherman oaks and santa monica. lookin for work right now in game or film, just thought i'd send a shout out. Any weekly figure drawing goin on or sketchgroups? I could use a kick in the ass, and it's always kool to see how other ppl work.

[magicgoo]

I'm in SoCal. I might wanna get down on this. Are there any other girls here? I don't wanna meet up with a bunch of male strangers and get kidnapped or something :P

[|NTeRN]

lil qoh is female. shes down in the hunting area but i think she may be busy with her new job cause she hasnt come to a recent meet in a while

[Nixon]

wait, there's FEMALES here??? j/k

i'm still watching this thread.....

[Sinix]

Yea, I don't know when we're gonna do something again. It'd be cool to do something on saturday, but I don't have any ideas.

[culfinglin]

I'm in SoCal. I might wanna get down on this. Are there any other girls here? I don't wanna meet up with a bunch of male strangers and get kidnapped or something :P

last time i checked, i'm still female. i'd be a lot more worried about the guys who *aren't* artists, though. :)

[Sinix]

Anyone want to see justin sweet at fullerton JC next week?

[PhilHolland]

Yes there are female artists out here in so cal. Not many post though. The next time Shane Corn has a sketch session I'll post up the info. There're usually a few there.

I really think we should do a meet at the Getty. Big, friendly, and crowded - but not too crowded. Just throwing that out there.

Phil

[culfinglin]

i'd second the getty. i've been itching to draw from their antiquities section for a while now. :)

[Nixon]

I third the getty. haven't been there yet...but i'm not far from there, and i've been itching to go check it out.

[Noc]

hey, I am gonna be heading up to justin sweats deal with two guys from my school if anybody wants to meet up?

[|NTeRN]

im down for the gettys. i can drive any san diego peeps (im looking at you jetpack :blah: ) so just gimme a call or email and i'll pick ya up. i guessing phil is gonna set this one up :yayca:

[PhilHolland]

Okay SoCal CAers.

Sounds like |ntern and others are interested in meeting up at the Getty and getting our art on.
So here's what I'm thinking.
April 23rd 2005
This should give everybody time to schedule that in on their calendar and maybe get the day off of work *cough* |ntern.
The Getty is open from 10am to 9pm on that Saturday.

Parking is $7. Admission is free after that. They do have size limitations to how much stuff you can bring up to the Getty, but they have been flexible with me in the past when I brought a larger sketchbook.

Play it safe. Bring some extra cash for snacks. Maybe pack a 8.5x11 or 9x12 sketchbook and some supplies.

Here's a link : http://www.getty.edu/visit/

Reply if you are interested or have questions. I'm pm-able too.

Any thoughts?

[Nixon]

i'm down with that, Phil. Do they have sculpture there? I guess I'll just check out the site...

[fukifino]

Sweet! I'll probably show up late, cause I'll be taking a Sat class in SD, but I'll definately try to be there. :D

[Sinix]

Sounds fun.. I'll be there.

[PhilHolland]

Nixon - They should, but no guarantee on that because sometimes stuff gets moved.

fukifino - Just show up. Late or early doesn't matter.

Sinix = Yay!

[magicgoo]

My art history instructor is making us go to the Getty to write a paper on what we see there. (Does this mean I can write a paper on drinking fountains and benches? Nevermind. Stupid joke.)

ANYWAY: He said the parking is free if you show a student ID card from any college/university/etc. I don't know how true this is, but bring your student ID cards just in case!

[|NTeRN]

sweet im so down for this. i'll be driving up jetpack42 so if any other san diego / watts kids wanna ride just let me know. (i might wanna stop in at home for a minute or to tho but depends on time)

[LUMEi]

Getty Drawing Hour
Date: Friday March 18, 2005, 7 pm (they have this every other friday)
Location: Museum Galleries
Admission: Free
Enjoy the tradition of sketching from original works of art. Guest art instructor provides general guidance; all you need to bring are drawing pads and pencils (no other materials are permitted in the galleries). All experience levels welcome. Sign up at the Information Desk in the Museum Entrance Hall beginning at 6:00 P.M. the day of the program.


I love the getty. I was just there friday doing landscapes outdoors and then it rained on me. =(. Everything about that place is inspirational. oh and I don't think they do the free student thing anymore. I've had to pay the last two times I went.

[PhilHolland]

magicgoo - I don't know about the free parking with ID, but it would be worth calling and finding out.

Phil

[Smurf]

I might be able to go..I to have to do some school project at a museum of my choice. Im located in downey/ it's near belflower/cerritos/norwalk..

[|NTeRN]

hey anyone for Southern Cali going to the Prague workshop in August? if you are wanna try to get the same flight there and back? i might not beable to go unless im with a few friends (parents are a lil worried about me flying to the other side of the planet) yes no maybe so?

[Sinix]

Maybe |ntern, I'd like to go.. but the thought of leaving the country seems intimidating because I've never left it before, not sure what all is involved. If I can go, I'll travel with you and whoever else.

[fukifino]

Assuming the money and vacation time are there, I'm going. If I make it, I'm planning on spending all of my vacation time. This'll be the first time for me in Europe and I'd like to make the most of it, so probably like 10 days or something. Depending on if I can find some other people staying in Prague for longer, I might stay there or go to another country.

[|NTeRN]

im down to stay longer. first time being in europe for me too


i think all you really need to do is get a passport a a local DMV. i think they may ask why your going to prague but you can just say vacation for art thingy or whatever

[Sinix]

If I can go, I'd like to stay some extra time also.

[character]

hey everyone, long time no post. i see most of you on the irc anyways =p anywhoo, i was wandering if anyone wanted to go to that drawing hour tomorrow that lumei posted about. lumei, you going? anyone else from the area interested? pm me if you want, or post here. i'll be checking in and out of here today and tomorrow. peace

[Odds]

this summer us socali's really need to get these things goin'. i'll have a car so i'd be able to drive people near Torrance/San Pedro/Long Beach. But yea, let's get it goin.

[PhilHolland]

Hey there party people. This is just a friendly reminder for those that don't view previous pages :) that there will be a ConceptArt.org SoCal meet at the Getty Museum on April 23rd 2005.

One month away. Everybody schedule this one in. Check out my post near the bottom of page 10 for some nifty details on parking and all that.

Cheers!

Phil

[character]

i am so there! anyone wanna hook up from the valley? don't you live up here somehwere phil?

[Nixon]

I think Phil's in Woodland Hills. I'm in Thousand Oaks. Anybody up this way? I'm planning on going to the Getty thing too....

[PhilHolland]

Well that depends on what you mean by "hook up"! :)

I'm in West Hills/Woodland Hills. Right on the edge.

I'm gonna put out some invites to other people around town to see if they'd like to hang out. Hopefully we can get a good mix for this session.

[Odds]

oh yea. i'll be there hopefully, if my mom will drive me :o
hope to see all of you CA'ers there! :yayca:

[jfwalls]

I've been applying to some jobs in CA at various game companies. My question is: What is the average pay rate for a 2D illustrator doing GUI work at a popular game company? I've been doing all kinds of research, and I've found rates for just about every other position. Thanks in advance for any answers. Cya.

[trevor]

i dont know what others make but my rate
fluctuates between 40 and 50 an hour for freelance work
when i worked for sony it was 40 but for two or 3 other smaller companies
they were willing to pay 50
it all depends on the employer there really isnt an industry standard
a few of my friends who are full time a a few different companies make widely varied rates
fro 38000 a year to 66000
just try and get what you think your worth (experience efficiency talent etc)

[character]

Phil: dude! we should all roll together, or seperately and roll up in 4 cars and be like what~ keep it gansta. haha, anyways, i'm off to work. let me know what ya think =)

[tumbra]

Is anyone here from San Diego? I know quite a few of you have taken classes at Jeff Watts Atelier. If you are in San Diego and haven't, shame on you. I attempted to try to get a few of you together for last year's Comicon but it didn't qutie come together. Anyone want to try it again?

[PhilHolland]

Reminder!
We will have a meet up/hang out/gathering at the Getty Museum on Saturday April 23rd. I'd like to start getting a head count of who's interested in coming and stuff like that. Look back in the thread for Getty details like parking and hours.

Also, reminder! Do your taxes, register for E3, regsiter for the Con, Print portfolios! Well some of that's mostly for me I guess. 1 out of 4 ain't bad! Right? Right?

Phil

[fukifino]

Is anyone here from San Diego? I know quite a few of you have taken classes at Jeff Watts Atelier. If you are in San Diego and haven't, shame on you. I attempted to try to get a few of you together for last year's Comicon but it didn't qutie come together. Anyone want to try it again?

I'm not in SD but I am taking classes at Watts. And I'll definately be going to Comicon this year. Last year was my first time and it was great. :D

[faffs]

hello, i'm new to ca.org and have been really enjoying the tutorials and inspiring works. I would love to get together with some san deigo artists out there to swap ideas, techniques, etc

who is in sd?

[|NTeRN]

theres a lot of us in SD cus a lot of us go to Watts Atelier. me, DNS2k, Jetpack42, Silverslash, Velo, SpazMcflash, mouse, and a hell of a lot more but i dunno all the names off the top of my head.

[Odds]

i'll be there... :)
what time are all you guys gonna get there?

[PhilHolland]

i'll be there... :)
what time are all you guys gonna get there?

I'll be there when they open-ish.

Phil

[Sinix]

So, you're getting there around 10am? How big is it? Are we gonna be meeting at a certain spot?

[PhilHolland]

Yeah. Around 10am. I figured we could meet up at the main giant stairs. It's a fairly large place though. I also doubt we would stay in that area. If we end up drawing anything I imagine it will be in the courtyard or on the lawn near the garden. There's lot's off cool places to hang and there's tons of stuff to just look at.

I'll give out my cell if you want it I guess. That will help a bit.

Phil

[Tommy Thumbscrew]

The Getty sounds like a good time... if I didn't hate the 405 so much...

Anybody ever get up my way?

[culfinglin]

Reply if you are interested or have questions. I'm pm-able too.

Any thoughts?

excellent! i'll be seeing you guys there.

[Odds]

awesome, i'll be there around 12 then. :)
can't wait to meet all you chobos.

[jetpack42]

I have Ron's Color Theory class that afternoon (3-6), and I'm already going to miss it once this term, so missing it twice doesn't seem like a good call...

Sorry to say I won't be seeing you all there. have fun.

[PhilHolland]

Jetpack42 - Screw that. Tell Ron & Vanessa to come too!

[Nixon]

The Getty sounds like a good time... if I didn't hate the 405 so much...

Anybody ever get up my way?


I'm in Thousand Oaks, Tommy. whatup!

and oh yeah, i'm planning on going to this thang. how big materials do you guys usually bring? i think i'm just gonna bring a large sketchbook, since I don't have a standing easel to work 18"x24"...i can't work on an area large sitting down.

cy'all there. we should hop down to westwood for lunch.... ;) good eats there!

[|NTeRN]

hey sinix wanan carpool? i think im gonna come home on the 22nd so we could leave anytime in the morning

[Dizon]

Anyone here from Hayward ???

[PhilHolland]

since I don't have a standing easel to work 18"x24"

Pack compact guys. No giant pads. The Getty has size restrictions that are pretty strict, but can be fudged a bit.

Phil

[llothcat]

never been here before..it'll be worth a shot ta meetja'll. who's carrying the sign?

[Noc]

so hey, I just had my first class at watts last tuesday, anyone their on tuesday nights in the intro to tonal drawing class, or just at watts on tuedays 7:30 to 10:30? maybe we can grab a beer or somthing after?

[silverslash]

looks like im going down with intern. will be cool to meet all of you, and ill bring some locks of jetpacks hair to pass around. we can pretend hes there and make fun of him.

noc- me and intern have that class together, watcha look like ?
im the crew cut with the glasses. not a pretty combo :-(

[Aguilart]

Been lurking for a while; haven't posted anything yet. But, I'm interested in going so sign me up.

[|NTeRN]

Hey Jose, damn dude a girl who i had planned on taking out got a hold of me and wants to hang out friday night. your still more then welcome to come down with me but shes been waiting on this date for a while. i just dont want ya to feel weird coming down and me going out and you staying at my place. but seriously this would be my first date in a few yrs.... so no cock blocking >:D

[Noc]

hey silver, im the kid that was sitting in the last chair in the back of the room, I was next to eric during warm ups. I have a goatee and a big shaved head. Name is Darcy.

[|NTeRN]

im the short blonde guy. name is Mat. i was in the second from the middle horse stool on the right side.

[PhilHolland]

never been here before..it'll be worth a shot ta meetja'll. who's carrying the sign?

Yes. Look for um..... They guy with the sketchbook surrounded by other people with sketchbooks on the main steps at the top of the hill.

[Aguilart]

By the way, I'm in Mission Viejo. If anyone lives nearby, you can carpool with me if interested. Let me know.

Julio.

[fukifino]

Where in MV are you, Julio? I can't carpool for this har event cause I'm gonna be coming straight from school, but I'm gonna be moving down to MV again next week. I'll be off Trabuco between El Toro and Alicia.

[Aguilart]

Hi, Fukifino. I'm at the corner of Marguerite and Santa Margarita Pkwy.

You'll be really close. We'll have to get a beer and talk about art.

But, in the meantime, I'm sure I'll meet you on Saturday.

J.

[character]

hey all. looks like i'll be at work, but i'm gonna go in early so i can leave early. if you guys aren't near the stairs around mid afternoon, i'll run around lookin for ya's. hrmm, hopefully we'll meet up. if i don't find ya, i'll be the lonley boys lead singer look-a-like drawing all by his lonesome. hehe. anyways, can't wait GAME ON!

[fukifino]

hey all. looks like i'll be at work, but i'm gonna go in early so i can leave early. if you guys aren't near the stairs around mid afternoon, i'll run around lookin for ya's. hrmm, hopefully we'll meet up. if i don't find ya, i'll be the lonley boys lead singer look-a-like drawing all by his lonesome. hehe. anyways, can't wait GAME ON!


I won't be there til probably around 3:30/4 anyways since I'm coming all the way from SD after my perspective class. I'm pretty much just gonna run around looking for people too.

[character]

I won't be there til probably around 3:30/4 anyways since I'm coming all the way from SD after my perspective class. I'm pretty much just gonna run around looking for people too.

you here that people?! THE LONG HAIRED FREAKS WILL BE COMING IN FORCE!! MUAHAHAHA! fear

[|NTeRN]

i'm there. gonna get there arround noon or earlier. dont get your hopes up tho.. im hella tired and i need my beauty sleep

rob still wanna carpool or no?

[Sinix]

i'm there. gonna get there arround noon or earlier. dont get your hopes up tho.. im hella tired and i need my beauty sleep

rob still wanna carpool or no?

I dunno, am I supposed to drive or you?

[PhilHolland]

Saturday is tomorrow. I'll be at the top of the hill (probably in shorts and with a stupid grin) near the main giant white stairs.

I imagine, depending on the day, that we will migrate to the garden area with the lawn or some of the table around the getty. If you are coming late it shouldn't be too hard to find people. If you can't ask a employee and they might be able to point you to where the group is at.

Phil

[fukifino]

I heard there's a 50% chance of rain tomorrow. Weak sauce!

I'll be there anyways!

[fletchgirl]

I haven't posted in a while but, tomorrow? I've been wanting to go to the Getty but the Los Angeles Times festival of books http://www.latimes.com/extras/festivalofbooks/ is tomorrow at UCLA... it's like, comic con with out the movies and games... you know, books... you guys should stop b y! not to far away, and also free!

[PhilHolland]

Fukifino - Yeah. It's actually a 30% chance in the Marina. We should be "safe".

Fletchgirl - Yeah, but we will have the entire Getty to roll around and play in! I'm bringing my dirty clothes.

[character]

lol. i thought this was today. i was all hyped last night until i realized what day it was. i should be there alot earlier than intended in that case. around noon'ish when i get out of coffee bean =) see you freaks there =D

[|NTeRN]

hey guys. imma try to leave arround 10 but maybe later (depends on what time i wake up.

Hey Rob, i can drive you or you can drive. doesntr matter to me. we live close to each other so it'd be easier just to go togther in car pool.

and if anyone wants my parents are offering to have dinner for anyone over here if they;d like. its only about 45 mins So of the mueseum so let me know if you guys want to eat or not.

[PhilHolland]

It's not raining btw.

[fukifino]

It's not raining btw.

It's not raining...now. I'm gonna be safe and bring a jacket just in case.

[llothcat]

ended up halfway to simi valley.

sorry guys..maybe next time

[character]

ouch, sorry to hear that. at least you didn't have to eat at the restaraunt we ate at. i paid 30 bucks for a chicken leg/thigh and 2 beers. no sides at all. /sigh

got some good drawings done tho =D

[PhilHolland]

Yeah. I plopped down $30 on my meal too. But it was damn tasty. It did however almost kill me. I was choking and had to go the the bathroom to take care of that.

Did anybody help me out? Sean? Intern? Character? Nah. They that I was telling a story! LOL!

Here's some people.
http://www.artbyphil.com/forum/gettymeet.jpg

A big sorry goes to Forrest. Sorry dude. I really had to take off. I'll make it up to you somehow.

The good things were that people were surprised by the Getty itself and the Roger Fenton exhibit was pretty damn cool. Sean and I both picked up the $70 book on that guy. Nice textures in the pictures.

I have a couple of great ideas for the next one, but I'll wait until after E3 to set that up.

Cheers,

Phil

[fukifino]

I knew I shoulda showered before I showed up!

Hehe, it's cool. You guys were there for like 5 hours before I got there, so I figured you would be about ready to go. I hung out with Character for the rest of the evening, so it was all good.

We need to get something regular goin' on.

[Aguilart]

I got there really late myself and I couldn't stay too long. Too bad I didn't get to meet anyone.

Now, to start posting.

Julio.

[character]

I knew I shoulda showered before I showed up!

Hehe, it's cool. You guys were there for like 5 hours before I got there, so I figured you would be about ready to go. I hung out with Character for the rest of the evening, so it was all good.

We need to get something regular goin' on.

yeah, serious, take a shower! hehe really tho, we were talkin about that whole "regular thing going" thing for a bit. It'd be cool if we had a small, ghetto once a month meet where we would just hang out and draw/kick back and then every once in awhile, maybe every 3 months?5 months? have a bigger shin-digg like we did at the getty. What does y'all think?

[Sinix]

Yea, it was a cool place to see, I look forward to whatever you set up next, phil. We should get our every-other-week sketchgroup back up, maybe sundays would be better for it?

[Odds]

yeah. i wanna meet up with you guys again, i didn't really get to know anyone :P
set it up and i'm there!

[|NTeRN]

what about a meet at the san diego zoo :D

[character]

that'd be cool. far, but doable. i'd have to go on a weekend tho. unless i had enough notice, i might be able to get out of work. i'm definitely up for this.

[buffaloe]

Hey cool.... I'd love to meet up with you guys! I just moved to LA in December, so I'd love to find a new sketch group :)

[|NTeRN]

aww buffaloe you just missed thr Getty trip.. :^^;:

but ya a zoo trip would be fun... we could like... play with animals or something /m\ \w/

[fukifino]

I'd be down for a Zoo or Wild Animal Park meet. The WAP is sweet.

[gobot]

Hey guys - I just found this topic, and man am I relieved. I've been looking for a way to meet up with some of you folks since i joined a few weeks ago. If you wanna go to the zoo/w.a.p., that would be cool, i can get us cheap tickets.
I've been meaning to get to the zoo one of these days anyway

[gobot]

hey california artists.......
WAKE UP! come on, where are you guys? lets see some posts.

[fukifino]

this is pretty much par for the course for us lazy beach bums. I've noticed that the only way to get anything done is to say "HEY! I'M GONNA BE HERE AT THIS DAY/TIME. JOIN ME!" and even then be prepared to be there alone. ;)

[PhilHolland]

Ouch! Damn fukifino. I'm sooooooo sorry about that! Next time it will be on a Sunday so Ron and peeps can come. And hopefully nobody has class.

[fukifino]

Haha, sorry Phil, I wasn't even referring to that. That totally wasn't your guys fault. I was honestly surprised anyone was still there at all by the time I showed up. But even when Rob organized our OC sketchgroups it still only ever ended up being me, him, Brad and Mat.

As stupid as it sounds, gobot, I know a bunch of the Watts guys spend a lot of time at the Dennys somewhere down there. If you're that desperate to hang out with people, hehe. But I've never been (too far of a drive), so I dunno when/where/who/what/etc...

[gobot]

sounds like you got some bitterness there, F...............:)
soon as I get ahold of some cheapo tickets, I'll let you guys know when I'm heading to the san diego zoo to draw stuff. I really need to work on drawings beasties.
You can never go wrong with Dennys, but I think I'll pass on that until I become a watts-a-teer. Hopefully i can pick up the next term/class/semester.

[fukifino]

Haha, no bitterness here. I'm usually pretty busy anyways. But if anyone actually had a regular thing goin' I'm sure I could make it pretty often.

I'd love to do some beasty drawin' myself.

[buffaloe]

I'm there as soon as you pick a date =)

[LiL QoH]

anyone goin to E3?

[gobot]

eeh-three?

and how do i change "registered user" to something else?

[gobot]

also, where's this 'insect battle' thing I keep reading about?

[PhilHolland]

This should be a decent sized group for E3 this year!

Much naked party dance! (thank you japan)

[|NTeRN]

whens the latest you can sign up and anyone wanna let me stay at your place for the weekend since i live in san diego? :blah:

[jayne]

hey hey! er...kinda new to this forum ^ ^ so let me introduce meself!

my name's jayne...well close enough! i'm 17 years old and i live in the canoga park area... i attend a non accredited art school in sherman oaks. yah.

soooo...anyone wanna meet up for coffee and like, draw draw draw to his/her heart's content? i'd love to meet up with anyone willing to do so ^ ^.
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weee http://foreverbroken.atspace.com/files/temp/pictures.htm

[gobot]

so i picked up some 2 zoo tickets, along with two 2for1 bus passes and 2 $5off coupons for the zoo. meaning: i can provide cheapo tickets for a few of youse guys.
I'm free to do the Zoo during the week, but what are your schedules like? If you wanna do a saturday, that's cool too. If that's the only day you guys can make it, any sat but the 21st is good for me.

I have the same passes/coupons for the WAP too.

[buffaloe]

hmm, I can only make a Saturday due to a hectic work schedule, but if you gotta do it another time, I understand ;)

[Helium Macaroni]

Jesus Christ Jayne, you're only 17? I took a look at the stuff on your page there and I'm impressed. God, what the hell was I doing at 17? Probably deep in a crushing depression from the Junior Prom debacle, and not drawing half as well as that. Hats off to you.

[pandorablood]

Hey guys, buffaloe informed me on you guys getting together for a sketch group....I would love to join since im in the area now....:wink:

[gobot]

So let's go on the 28th. Or do you guys have memorial-day-weekend plans?

[jayne]

helium, thanks a lot! ack i'm so glad u like me stuffers haha. bleh >< i'm not going to my prom...everybody's making sucha big deal about it...i just dont wanna go...

r u guys gonna get together? if so i'd like to go!

[grinn]

I might also be up for a meet depending on when your next one is. In northern california now, but moving back down to go to Watts again in a couple of weeks.

[fukifino]

If you guys do the 28th, I'll try to go. I'll be down there for class til about 1pm.

[jetpack42]

yeahhhh watttssss. I'll be taking less classes next term so my schedule will free up and I should be able to make more meetups the terms after that.......

[gobot]

ha HA! I was just kidding. realization: I'm going to Spirit West Coast Del Mar all weekend, so I can't go the 28th. It'll have to be after that. So, first weekend in June? Sat the 4?

[fukifino]

I'll still try to be there. ;)

[Lauren Short]

helium, thanks a lot! ack i'm so glad u like me stuffers haha. bleh >< i'm not going to my prom...everybody's making sucha big deal about it...i just dont wanna go...

r u guys gonna get together? if so i'd like to go!


haha no worries, i skipped prom and grad night so i could have the cash for the austin workshop last year, and let me tell ya, it was well worth it :rendered:

[jayne]

hahaha thanks a lot injection, yeah i feel better...actually id rather save my money for something else than that. like, that austin workshop! are you gonna go to the one next year?

[Groover McNab]

Jesus Christ Jayne, you're only 17? I took a look at the stuff on your page there and I'm impressed. God, what the hell was I doing at 17? Probably deep in a crushing depression from the Junior Prom debacle, and not drawing half as well as that. Hats off to you.

Damn, I second that. Kids these days, always showing off... :nohope: :P

[jayne]

gah! i'm not a kid >< *eats a cookie* brawwwrawr thanks a lot for the compliment tho groover :D i really have more to learn tho...i needa meet u guys! we must draw so i can learn from me elders (i'm not saying ur old...im just saying ur...older...muhakuh )

[fukifino]

OK, I had to check out your stuff too and damn....*hides in the corner* That's some slick stuff.

[jayne]

gyaaah thanks! ><

[I0N]

hey guys I'm back...kinda forgot bout this thread...do you guys remember me..no? *cries to self*

damn jayne that is good stuff...drinks are on me...oh yeah you cant drink HA.

so is there a meeting soon? I'm too lazy to read to far back.

PEACE

[jayne]

mrawr! correction, i can drink, but not legally ^ ^! (PLEASE GIVE ME DRINKS! PLEAAASE! i wont tell :D)

it's nice to meetcha by the way :bashful:

[gobot]

eh....i guess j-boy is ok. (razzzm frazzmmm) I'm sure any of you guys could have turned out the same stuff if you'd really applied yourself, you probably just didn't take the time....like me, the guy who doesn't finish stuff.

Ion: If you wanna meet up sooner than the 4th o' june, plan something. otherwise, you're welcome to join us at the san diego zoo all day

[fukifino]

eh....i guess j-boy is ok. (razzzm frazzmmm) I'm sure any of you guys could have turned out the same stuff if you'd really applied yourself, you probably just didn't take the time....like me, the guy who doesn't finish stuff.

I can't even do that kind of stuff now, much less when I was 17. :P

[jetpack42]

whats this? june 4th at the san diego zoo? how much does it cost to get into the zoo?

[Sinix]

Drawing at the zoo is fairly intriguing... hope you get a set date/time.

[gobot]

Full price - $32
I have 2x $5 discount coupons you guys can use, which makes it $27
I have an extra pass, which I would really rather sell than give away, since I'm a starving artist. If anyone wants it for $20, lemme know.


For the rest of you, check out http://www.sandiego.craigslist.org. Go to the 'for sale' section, and search for 'zoo' or 'zoo passes.' I guarantee you can get them (usually in sets of 2) for much less than full price.

[jayne]

um mrawr. okaaaay lol. :perv:

[gobot]

for example....
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/tix/74031521.html

[character]

haha jayne=teh funny
good artwork there =)

i'm not sure if i can make it the 28th. b-day is on the 31st and my old friends from da hood might be doing something that day so i dunno yet. we'll see. maybe the 4th tho. what zoo is this? san diego? that's a road trip right thrrrrrr

[gobot]

yep, its the san diego zoo. if you can't make it, i've got tickets to the wild aminal park if you wanna go there another time.
The 28th is cancelled due to the fact that i can't make it. I'm going on the 4th, if you can come down for that day, great.

[jayne]

thanks character...i guess i am kinda funny looking... :x

dammit! i was gonna go on the 28th cuz my family's gonna take a trip there. noooo!!! the inhumanity! >:|

[gobot]

no worries jayne - all is not lost. if you get people to go on the 28th with you (like a rivalry between event-planners) then you're set. If no one ends up going a week later, I'll either go anyway, cuz its still awesome, or I'll put it off until someone can go.

Who's gonna go save poor little jayney-wayney from being dragged around the zoo by his family?

[jayne]

muahaha it's ok! my family isn't all that bad...well they mite get pissed after me staring at one animal for 10 minutes...but i can just throw sharpened sticks at them ! (i have a teacher who is really into "theories" and says that making a stick of ur own to draw with is inspirational (so far she's not all that crazy)). :^^:

[gobot]

making your own pencil is inspirational? to sharpen a stick is inspiring? yes, making things is motivating and such, but a mere pencil? mmmmk...

[jayne]

yea...most art teachers nowadays are into the whole "theory" stuff instead of the actual teaching...thats why im not going to art college... bleh! :^^;:

[NoSeRider]

I'm still figuring out how to navigate concept.org.

I just found this thread.

Here's my stuff:
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36545

Here's my plans for taking a class in LA:
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=488966#post488966

Will keep go'n to watts though during summer.

[jayne]

Nice stuff dude! Where exactly is the class that you're gonna take over the summer?

[NoSeRider]

http://academy.smc.edu/

Right there.

However, you have to register thru here: http://www.smc.edu

It's a community college, but taught by people from Dreamworks and Disney.
If you're not impressed, then obviously you've never gone to a community college.....this is as best as it gets....for community college.

[jayne]

GAH! THANKS FOR TELLIN' meEEEE!!! :D[/COLOR]

[Odds]

you guys wanna do anything soon? it's almost summer for me!
and i'll have my license soon, as well. cmon', let's get somethin' going :)

[gobot]

still going to the zoo on saturday. i'll be there around 10am at the latest. And I still have an extra ticket.... Feel free to call my cell (619) 347-8232

[Matt Smith]

Anyone here go to open drawing at San Clemente Art supply? For anyone who doesnt know, its 10 dollars for 3 hours 6:30-9:30 wednesday nights, I am going tonight.

[jayne]

*poke* id love to do something too! im sure we'll all be able to do something over the summer :D someone has to initiate it tho ... ><

[fukifino]

Anyone here go to open drawing at San Clemente Art supply? For anyone who doesnt know, its 10 dollars for 3 hours 6:30-9:30 wednesday nights, I am going tonight.

Is that for life drawing? How long is it gonna be going on for? I've got class on Wednesday nights, but I'm off during July. Wouldn't mind having a semi-local place to hit up if the whim strikes me.

[Smitherines]

Is that for life drawing? How long is it gonna be going on for? I've got class on Wednesday nights, but I'm off during July. Wouldn't mind having a semi-local place to hit up if the whim strikes me

From what I know, its every Wednesday all year long. I have been going there with my brother (Matt) for 3 weeks now. They mostly do short poses, a long pose is like 15-25 minutes. So far the models have been pretty good.

[gobot]

Just to confirm, is anyone definitely going to the San diego Zoo tomorrow?

[character]

anyone in the LA area or within a drive wanna start hitting the LA Zoo on saturdays? we can all meet up at my place at 8am, go grab something to eat, then carpool there at 9 or 9:30 and get there when they open at 10. I need this, you need this...so let's do it =P
maybe we can make shirts that say "CAZoo's!" you know, cause CA + Zoo = cazoo. i dunno. i thought it was funny.

let me know if you're interested. it's 10 bucks to get in, but i think you can get a season pass. not sure how much those are. if more that 15 people show up, we can get 3 bucks off each ticket. but, considering no more that 5-10 people usually show up for meets, i doubt that'll happen =p

anyways, pm me, post in here, email me. whateva. let me know if you're interested =)

[I0N]

Ahaha ha! CAzoo that does sound funny! I think I'd show up once or twice...I'll have to see how my time is works out though...

we'll see...

LAter!

[gobot]

how come your zoo is so much cheaper? lucky...

[character]

cause the la zoo isn't a preserve =)

i0n: cool man. and PM ME =p lol

[character]

Ok, so for this first saturday it looks like it's only me and Jayne so far. If anyone else is interested, here is my address: 18307 Burbank Blvd and that's in Tarzana, 91356

Gimme a call too if you're interested: 818.481.1873 My name is Guillermo btw =)

We'll be meeting up here at my pad at 8. Take it easy everyone. PM or call if you need anything else

[Sinix]

Char, is the zoo north or south of you? I think tarzana is farther than LA, coming from the south.

[character]

it's just 10-15 miles due east of me. maybe a bit more. easy drive tho

[character]

CAZoo v2.0

Ok, first one didn't fall through. Ended up skipping it due to laziness and bad habits. But, Saturday, it's on. Hit me up if you wanna go =)

[Redder]

Groan, not the L.A. Zoo. I wonder if I'm still allowed back there. Hahaha.

[character]

zoo was fun on saturday. pass is 45 bucks for a whole year and you get two free guest passes after a few weeks in the mail. parking is free at the zoo regardless of pass/no pass. food is pretty expensive so you're better off bringing something or eating before you go. pretty busy on the weekends. everyones pretty cool tho. most people were like, oooh, look Jr, he's drawing the flamingos. oooooh, hehe

not really any traffic on the way there either. the way back was rough. for some reason the 101 was packed and there were no accidents =\ anyhoo, i'll be going again on saturday if anyone wants to go. read above post for contact info if you wanna meet up at my pad and carpool there. sketches i did, show worthy ones, are on the front page of my site. click link in sig if you wanna check 'em out. peace

[fukifino]

I was gonna try to hit up that life drawing the San Clemente Art Supply...is this (http://scartsupply.com/) the place? If so, can I kill their web designer for using java for navigation? I can't even USE their site on linux...wtf were they thinking?

Anyways, I hope that's the right place, cause that's where I'll be driving.

[CaptainInsano]

Any CA sketch groups in West LA? I live in Santa Monica, baby!

[character]

no sketch group but i have been going to the zoo every saturday for the last 3 weeks. going again today @ 10am. prolly head out of here around 9. Scroll up for more information if you're interested. peace

[foniksonik]

I'm in SoCal.. Orange County... brand new to this site but looking forward to trying to be active ;-p

I work full time and just got married so not as much ME time as used to have. Anyways, I'll review what's going on before I make any more comments. Good to meet ya.. say hi if you're so inclined.

[jayne]

Hey! Welcome to CA :D

[fukifino]

Welcome aboard! Whereabouts in OC are you?

[jayne]

Hey so you guys are we ever gonna like meet sometime?

[Odds]

we would meet up more... if we didn't have conflicting schedules >:{

[Helium Macaroni]

Well LA also tends to be the most horrendous place in which to preserve friendships with someone if you don't live around the block from them, go to school with them, or work with them. I have friends all over the area (which technically aren't that far away) yet I only see them about once a month.

..thank god for my live-in harlot or else I'd have no life.

[trevor]

i might be moving to new york in the next few weeks
we should get together again soon
barbq beer art gay....you know, the basics
i may not be calling this group local for too long

[character]

i might be moving to new york in the next few weeks
we should get together again soon
barbq beer art gay....you know, the basics
i may not be calling this group local for too long


awww, that sucks do0d. we definitely have to have a cookout. and i don't work 3 jobs anymore so i'll be able to stay for more than an hour, lol. let's do this!!! and if you don't end up moving, fuck it, let's do it anyways!!! RAWK!!!!!!

odds, pm me. we gotta hang out next monday

oh, and welcome aboard sonik. i'm from the valley!! WOOT!! VALLEY gi...er, boy in the house!

[Helium Macaroni]

What the... why are you moving to New York Trev? And might I add, I envy you.

[Groover McNab]

I think I just heard Mike's heart breaking...