The Art Department: Discovery

[Jason Manley]

Everyone,

This coming Monday, ConceptArt.Org and The Illustration Academy are going to be announcing The Art Department education program which will start this coming June. Below you will find the release, shared here first, so you can get a good idea about what we have been building this past year. The website will go live just prior to the release and we will begin sharing information on the two million dollar scholarship program.

To kick things off we are opening up a five week online course series available only here on conceptart.org. We are going to be covering an incredible amount of information and sharing a comprehensive overview of the program for any professional, student or hobbyist who wishes to better their portfolio. Students and professionals will be learning with a select group of the Core Instructors in The Art Department. More information will be coming available over the weekend and throughout the next two weeks.

We have much to share and we hope that you everyone interested will be able to attend the live or On Demand programs. We are working to take care of the cost of running this community while at the same time improving opportunity and education here. CA is growing up. Our goal of being the best place to learn art online is in our hands. Join us for art. Learn with the community. See your growth. We are here to help and are thankful for all the support. More to come shortly!

Plz check page 3 of this thread as well as the others for a host of great info including instructor client lists, galleries, and other helpful information.

Truly,


Jason Manley

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For Release On:
January 13, 2010 ConceptArt.org / The Illustration Academy

CONCEPTART.ORG AND THE ILLUSTRATION ACADEMY LAUNCH
PROGRESSIVE ART EDUCATION PROGRAM

The Art Department Offers Career-driven Alternative to Traditional Art Education and
Two Million Dollars in Scholarships


SAN FRANCISCO – January 11, 2010 - Internationally acclaimed online art community, ConceptArt.org, today announced that it has teamed up with the award winning Illustration Academy (http://www.illustrationacademy.com), and its Visual Literacy Program (http://www.visualliteracyprogram.com) to offer a new alternative to standard art and design colleges, starting with a five-week introductory course series in February 2010 (http://www.theartdepartment.org). The February series marks the creation of ConceptArt.org’s newest accomplishment, The Art Department (TAD). Together with the Illustration Academy, they have assembled an innovative art education program, combining real world and online learning with hands-on workshops led by industry icons. In efforts to make art education more accessible, a stunning two million dollar international scholarship program will also be available to students based on talent and financial need.

Designed as the web’s first community site to learn art online and provide exposure for its members to gain industry attention, ConceptArt.org has reached out to millions of artists around the world through their innovative art and design symposiums (http://www.conceptart.org/workshop) and online, live-streaming classes. Its members, learning within the community and discovered by companies like Marvel, Massive Black, and Epic Games, have gone on to impact the world of art and entertainment. The Illustration Academy has gained much notoriety with the creation of their Visual Literacy Program and for its immersive educational workshops known for bringing up some of the most influential artists of the last 15 years.

“The ability to have first look access at jobs from the field is unique to TAD, as is our ability to expose worthy students to the thousands of companies who participate in our online community,” said Jason Manley, co-founder of The Art Department and ConceptArt.Org. “Members from companies like Disney, Harmonix, MTV, Blizzard, ILM, Pixar, Sony, Weta Digital, and more visit us weekly. Most will hire artists at one time or another and we get our students in front of the companies they want to work for, at a level never before seen in education.”

“The Art Department’s Illustration faculty has received more industry awards than all of the other Illustration Departments in art schools combined,” said John English, co-founder of the Illustration Academy. “Our instructors have done everything from covers of Time Magazine, National Geographic, Sports Illustrated and Rolling Stone, to the murals covering the walls of Barnes and Noble. For the last four decades, the faculty has helped to establish the course of illustration history. Students who want the truth about the professional world of art will finally have direct access to it. TAD offers an alternative to the traditional degreed art education programs and several ways for artists to grow and improve.”

Taught by some of today’s leading professionals, TAD gives students the opportunity to learn the skills necessary to succeed in life, business and art. Upon completion of the program, students tap directly into the conceptart.org traffic lines where their work will be shared with professionals from throughout the entertainment, art, and design industries.

Along with Illustration and Entertainment Design, TAD is running an in-depth foundations program and a traditional drawing based painting department, which artists learn to develop what they see, understand nature, and learn to create from imagination using traditional media like oil paint, charcoals, graphite, and water color. TAD mixes the traditional with the digital world and will help artists in nearly every country of the world.

Professionals from leading creative companies like Massive Black, Inc. (http://www.massiveblack.com) will be working with TAD to bring the most relevant industry information to students who wish to work in the entertainment industry.

The five-week series in February is suited for all students, from beginner to professional. Attended by artists and instructors from across the globe, the series will serve as a crash course of the full program offered by TAD.

About The Art Department
Founded in late 2009 to provide relevant art education and peerless opportunities for aspiring artists, the Art Department is a new breed of art school focused on delivering the actual life, business and art skills needed to be successful in the creative and entertainment industries. The Art Department has more award winning instructors and greater access to the decision makers than any art program ever conceived and is focused on real skills that lead to employment opportunities. For more information please visit: http://www.TheArtDepartment.org.

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NOTE TO MEDIA: For press related faculty interviews, or additional information on the program or scholarships, please contact [email protected]


Photos by Phil Holland.

Artwork copyright by, and all rights reserved for their respective owners.

[Smarty]

looks awesome

[Ian Barker]

Cool, thanks for the update. $500 is a very good price. I don't know if I'll be able to afford it, but I'll try. Just one question: I'm not sure yet, but I'm leaning towards waiting one year before entering TAD... will that $500 still be deductable if I join TAD in future years?

[Saurus]

500 sounds pretty good!

[Ryuartyi]

$500 sounds pretty good, basically five weeks of streaming classes plus $25. This starts up right when the spring semester starts up so I hope I won't be too busy to participate.

I can't wait.

[killermachine]

Great!!i'l be joining the discovery course.of course, that's my 1 month salary going there but sounds like its worth it.

[knoxie]

holy cow. This sounds just killer. I've got a tonne of questions already, but i'll hold my tongue till more details come about.

Looking forward to reading more about it.

[J Love]

Looking forward to this - the instructors listed are well worth the money!

[kool-ka-lang]

Holy shit. I'm sorry to any art colleges out there, but I'd take this bargain deal over any over priced tuition ANY DAY.

[Thyname]

Woot! I'll be there. nothing is gonna stop me from taking these classes

[Ninjac]

I will put together everything I have to take these classes! :yayca:

[threecharles]

Ah, wish you did this during the summer. Really want to take advantage of this opportunity, but theirs no way I can balance this and school right now.

[inkdrop]

sold.

[Noah Bradley]

Very reasonable price, and looks amazing. It is, of course, smack dab in the middle of school, but this is too good to pass up.

Thanks again for all you're doing! Looking forward to more details.

[Swampdigger]

Yup, I'll definitely be doing this. I think it's a great idea to do this 5 week course. Because while I'm interested in getting into TAD, I want to make sure before I commit to anything that the online component is something I'll be able to learn from. This looks like a great way to learn and see how TAD is going to work out. Thanks for putting this together Jason and crew.

[Noah Bradley]

Quick tip: your url for the Illustration Academy is wrong. Should just be illustrationacademy.com.

[neuroballistic]

I'm sooo in!! Thought it was going to be well over $500.

And it looks like I'll have to dig the paints and brushes out of the closet...this is gonna be a mind bender.

[Turbosnail]

This crash course sounds like an extremely interesting and affordable way of seeing what The Art Department has to offer.
Thanks for the update Jason!!

[Craz]

I am so excited for this. I'll have to make the time to do both schoolwork and Discovery.
Thank you CA, Massive Black, and the Illustration Academy!

[Freddy Scribbles]

Hey...who's teaching what? Will there be more info on the courses?
Thanks!

[Benjaminba]

Ow, I just cannot find the time in the spring :( - if only it had been in April or later, I would have liked to join. VERY fair price and it sounds really cool.

Please answer me this, Jason, is this planned as a one-time event? Can I and the other people who aren't able to join because of school or whatever, hope for another chance later?
It sounds like it'll be on-demand as well, so one could potentially go for that and follow the course when able, but it's not quite the same thing...

[Sidharth Chaturvedi]

Really sounds awesome, although sadly I wont be able to attend, funds are just too tight right now and school starts in Feb anyway. Hope it's a big success though, and thanks for getting all this together.

[jeremygordon89]

Awesome idea, and reasonable price too

[Jason Manley]

Thanks everyone. I have fixed the lnk and figures and appreciate all the interest as this is a very important endeavor for us as artists. We will have a lot more info in the coming days.

Happy New Year.


Jason

[ParanoiaArtist]

WOW .... I'll have to pick up a few extra hours at work but this is so worth it. SO SO worth it. VERY nice price for it. No way to pass that up. Can't wait for more info..

[jeremygordon89]

I'm sure you'll address this, but I just think it would be cool if in the actual program there would be a way to choose a program of study (such as illustration) yet also take "electives" from the other programs. Hopefully you'll have something set up to work with that idea. Can't wait to hear more about it

[Clean3d]

Experience has shown me I'm bad at multitasking, so I will most likely not be attending due to college. :( The good news is that this is my last semester where I am now, so perhaps I will be able to attend The Art Department in the future. Just have to touch up (read "create") that awesome portfolio...

My only concern is the whole "learning art online" bit - is it really possible? I'm sure you'll address those concerns in the next few weeks, though.

Sounds awesome!

[Pilgrim1099]

This looks wonderful! The only drawback is that I probably won't be able to hear what's being said via online seminars unless they're demo-ing the processes. But if they're lectures, I'll most likely have a hard time hearing. It's a great endeavor CA's doing and think they're doing a good thing for the industry to change things up, especially as a challenge to other art schools to show how it's really done properly.

However, the level of inaccessibility for people like me is somewhat there. If this was in person at an actual classroom, I'd pick up on things much better. These are the courses that my art school should have been teaching more than 10 years ago.

[Jason Manley]

Pilgrim, are you hard of hearing?

I have been working on finding solutions to the reality that we must have subtitles for those who have challenges to deal with for anything audio wise. I will ask the others and see if we can find some solution.

[Hyskoa]

Pilgrim, are you hard of hearing?

I have been working on finding solutions to the reality that we must have subtitles for those who have challenges to deal with for anything audio wise. I will ask the others and see if we can find some solution.

Cameras pointed at the mouths of the instructors showing up as miniscreens and a minimum amount of facial hair that covers the lips?

[Reymus]

It would be relatively cheap and help those hard of hearing as well as anyone interested if there were transcripts of the classes available to those who participate.

[Pilgrim1099]

Jason,

When I use my hearing aid, I can hear some things from the left side but the right's all gone. But when I take off the 'aid, I hear nothing. I just sleep too well at nights.

I'm sure that it's possible utilizing a headphone would be one way to amp up the volume, but I believe learning from visual cues seem to be the best way for me to learn along with other tidbit of information. Subtitles, if they were recorded sessions, would make sense. After all, that's how I watch movies in this manner on DVD or using TED. In fact, the ted.org website has such captioning technology now. Very interesting.

Ironically, I'm not that fluent with sign language to pick up on it on a quick pace :).


Pilgrim, are you hard of hearing?

I have been working on finding solutions to the reality that we must have subtitles for those who have challenges to deal with for anything audio wise. I will ask the others and see if we can find some solution.

[Pilgrim1099]

It would be relatively cheap and help those hard of hearing as well as anyone interested if there were transcripts of the classes available to those who participate.

What I would kill for is an Apple tablet with such live streaming via internet browser while sitting in the cafe bistro a few blocks from my place. It's the coming up with the $500 that's a pain in the neck. Then again, there's scholarships. EDIT: I meant to add in transcripts or recorded sessions in the packets.

[Pilgrim1099]

Cameras pointed at the mouths of the instructors showing up as miniscreens and a minimum amount of facial hair that covers the lips?

I do read lips extensively but it takes a lot of mental energy to pay this much attention to the point where my mind can get fried and I space out. That I have to be careful with.

But using cameras at the instructors would be difficult because they would probably move a lot or focus on visual demonstrations of the techniques involved. I would probably get sensory overload when reading lips and looking at another camera perspective if they demo.
:lounge:

[Alzuna]

This sounds amazing, I decided not to take spring semester at my school (switching schools in fall, no point in finishing their 'core' classes if I'm not even transferring them plus it sucked) so this seems like a perfect way to still learn stuff, since I do better when I have due dates, haha.

[neuroballistic]

May seem like a stupid question, but just curious, will scholarships apply to the Discovery introduction as well? I will gladly be paying the the $500 for the introduction myself...but just asking for those who are not sure I guess.

[antisphere]

this program sounds great.

depending on how many students that are hard of hearing attend, they could always get someone to sign what the instructor is saying.

[doubleNine]

A downloadable subtitled vid for the lesson + live q&a would be great, any more infos on the format of the lessons by the way? will there be other streaming solutions? I had problems during one of the first live streaming ones (color theory) but it's probably because of my sucky isp...

[Pilgrim1099]

this program sounds great.

depending on how many students that are hard of hearing attend, they could always get someone to sign what the instructor is saying.

Well, if you are deaf and have your own interpreter, he/she can interpret sitting in front of you and the monitor. But otherwise, you would have to watch the interpreter AND the instructor's visual demonstration. I can't follow ASL fluently at all and would get lost in translation, so I have to either read lips or watch the cues to understand what its being applied.

It was one of the biggest weaknesses that my old art school had more than ten years ago without any kind of 'accessibility' for me. It's one reason why I felt that 'group critiques' don't work well for me. I could go on all day pointing out the flaws from the system and why group crits don't work well as opposed to one on one crits.

EDIT: by the way, hiring an ASL instructor can be expensive so therefore, sub-titled captions make a lot more sense especially if you want to turn the volume down and watch it in silence at a public place or with headphones on which is your choice.

EDIT part 2: By the way, I'm referring to the old fashioned academic approach to group critiques in person. I don't have a problem with crits online from a larger audience because it's easier to see what's being said. Back in the day, there was'nt such a forum as this and we only had the professors provide feedback.

[Jason Manley]

Thanks everyone.

The old live stream tech is not being used. We have a new technology which works very very well. I have been able to watch the classes on wifi without any problems.

The scholarship program is for the full school. This is an overview on the kinds of things we are going to be doing and is going to be packed with content. I hope everyone can make it. We made it as affordable as we can. Five weeks is a lot of work for everyone and we are giving it our all.


Jason

[Streetz]

I am assuming there is a limit to the amount of students that can Participate in the 5 Week Program.

I was wondering how many students would be allowed to take the course???

Thanks

[Hive_minD]

Wow, Really want to do this. Will have to see. Would like even more info, so I am waiting patiently :D
On Demand option is surely best for me, seeing I have school and two jobs to concentrate on. -because of this, if I join this, is it possible to have it longer than the usual 30day streaming? Dunno if I can watch 5 week material in just a timespan. I might, but never know how swamped I am.

Will there also be assignments? Because that again for me, mean more time. I am willing to stay up late night (like I am already doing to manage extra studies,ect ) But yeah...

Chris

[Jason Manley]

There are a limited number of spots currently for the live courses. We will also have on demand capability as well.

I expect we will sell out as we are going to be making quite a bit of press in the coming days. The program is excellent and there is nothing else as comprehensive or as available to all. We will update everyone as it gets close.

Super thanks for asking. We will have more info shortly.


Jason

[theechoinside]

Well, I've been trying to figure out how to get funds in time for February for this, due to the kind Christmas present from a stranger of being run off the road and the associated repair bills. But no luck it seems.

If the on-demand is up for a while, perhaps I can get enough in time. It looks excellent though and seems a great way to taste what is to come. Very nifty. =)

[Onisan]

Legen - wait for it - ddaarrryyy !

Perfect timing starting right after my term ends at university. Really looking forward to this and probably 100 times better than the last term itself...

[Liam Harvey]

Oh man, I am in on this ASAP.

[bolow]

Is The Art Department an online atelier coming in June and this course is an introduction to what the Art Department has to offer?
Is for beginners to professionals?

[Onisan]

Is The Art Department an online atelier coming in June and this course is an introduction to what the Art Department has to offer?
Is for beginners to professionals?

"We are going to be covering an incredible amount of information and sharing a comprehensive overview of the program for any professional, student or hobbyist who wishes to better their portfolio. Students and professionals will ..."

I think you are basically right with the rest.

[James Gerard]

Is one able to buy this now? I cant seem to find where? I'm just flustered and excited

[DSGodwin]

I'm speaking with my employer about taking this course live but I don't see anything about what time or how much time it will be during the day.

[JHuntsman]

Looking forward to details of the introduction.

Just a few questions - What is meant by "One focus week + Port Reviews" does that mean that you get one of the weeks live and the other weeks on demand? Just a little confused on that one.

Other question - do you forsee some sort of financing option - like 2 installments of $250 or something like that? It might make it a bit easier for people to consider paying $250 for 2 months rather than $500 all at once. Although, I must say that the price is very reasonable.

Thanks!
Jamie

[Amber Alexander]

Is one able to buy this now? I cant seem to find where? I'm just flustered and excited

Not yet, alot of us are excited and waiting too :)


Just a few questions - What is meant by "One focus week + Port Reviews" does that mean that you get one of the weeks live and the other weeks on demand? Just a little confused on that one.

From Jason's earlier post "There are a limited number of spots currently for the live courses. We will also have on demand capability as well." So I think they will all be done live then on demand later.

[JHuntsman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by JHuntsman View Post
Just a few questions - What is meant by "One focus week + Port Reviews" does that mean that you get one of the weeks live and the other weeks on demand? Just a little confused on that one.
From Jason's earlier post "There are a limited number of spots currently for the live courses. We will also have on demand capability as well." So I think they will all be done live then on demand later.

Right, I think what I was asking for clarification on is the definition of "Port Reviews". If Port Reviews = On Demand. So, in other words, this $375 option would be the On Demand option with one week being live. Thanks for the response.

[Amber Alexander]

Right, I think what I was asking for clarification on is the definition of "Port Reviews". If Port Reviews = On Demand. So, in other words, this $375 option would be the On Demand option with one week being live. Thanks for the response.

Oh I think I understand now. Port review=your personal art portfolio is reviewed live. So "One focus week + Port Reviews" means you get access to your choice of any one week live and to have your portfolio reviewed live.

[JHuntsman]

ahhhh...ok PORTFOLIO REVIEW. duh, makes sense. I didn't realize that was an abbreviation. Thanks!

[SuckahPunch]

what an excellent offering and great price !
i'm gonna scrape and scrounge ... i need to participate!

(note: A 2 payment option would be really kool, and make my decision 100% ... pay half up front ... pay balance halfway through courses ?? )

[Ian Barker]

Everyone,

This coming Monday, ConceptArt.Org and The Illustration Academy are going to be announcing The Art Department education program which will start this coming June.

Here's hoping the announcement of an announcement is true this time :)

[bolow]

Thanks Onisan for the reply :)

I cant wait for more info :bounce:

[nance]

i cant wait....this is the perfect time for me......never giving up on the dream!

[DefiledVisions]

I'm looking forward to hear more about this. 5 weeks is a long time, and given the time differences from you and here (9hours or so) I hope it's not designed in a way that would keep people up late. Though you already seem to have the solution with on demand.

Other than that this is really a great price, even for someone like me who has no income and just finished high school. I quit my philosophy course to able to get into art wholeheartedly, and yeah.. looks like I'll be spending my last penny on this.
Thanks for doing this :yayca:

p.s Any news regarding your workshop coming up soon?

[JHuntsman]

sorry, maybe I misunderstood this as well...but, when Jason says info released on Monday, did that mean yesterday or next monday. I think I'm just a little anxious for info.

[kittens]

sorry, maybe I misunderstood this as well...but, when Jason says info released on Monday, did that mean yesterday or next monday. I think I'm just a little anxious for info.

Wondering the same thing..... it said that the date was the 11th, but then again it was supposed to be officially announced on the 9th and then two weeks before that and two weeks before that and two weeks before that....and so on....

...in other words I now, would not be surprised if it wasn't officially announced for another two weeks or so...hoping I am wrong = /

[Jason Manley]

I am as excited as you all. Cody will have the site up tonight with updates coming over the next week. This is a huge effort and we want to be sure everything is perfect. Super thanks for the patience. Check back later and you shall have some more info. :)

So happy to get going!! The next two weeks are going to contain a ton of information. You will be happy too. Great stuff.


Jason


Jason

[Craz]

I'm hoping my balls off that I can get a spot.

[JHuntsman]

Thanks for the update Jason - Really looking forward to the details. I know it's a massive undertaking and you guys are doing a great job. Thanks again.

p.s. Craz...don't hope your balls off...you might want those later. ;o)

[travisF]

whats the schedule of the classes like cause that will determine a lot for me

[ChineseWarri0r]

Will this program be offered another time after these 5 weeks? Currently in final year of college, wont have time for the January course :(

[dannylee4]

Out of curiousity, how long are the weekly classes going to run? Is it feasible for someone who works full time to attend? The reason I liked the streaming classes was that I could still learn at my own pace. Is this crash course a weeklong endeavor?

[Ted E.]

This is going to be amazing!!! I dare say Revolutionary. Thank you for putting such a great opportunity together.
One small question: Are the on-demand classes going to have a limited number of spots? I am going to have to round up some cash and I do not want to miss out on this opportunity.

[Thujon]

You guys are just awesome!!! So incredible...!!!

Little question:

If someone attends the full 5 weeks, will there be any little kind of "diploma" or a reference writing from you guys handed out??? I hope that you get what mean..

Like the masters degree when you finish the studies... something like a CA Degree after the five weeks :sungod:

Thank you for any response and if you still dont get what I mean, please tell...

Regards

JD

[Sidda]

I am so thrilled about Discovery. I have been hooked on the idea of TAD since I first read about it. I have so many questions, but I'll wait 'til more is said/more of the site goes up. Just wanted to give a shout out to the bodies behind TAD and say you guys have my support.

[Jason Manley]

As we wait for the site to launch and the release to then go out I thought I could post some information about the school and programs that are upcoming. The five week "Discovery" will demonstrate what this is all about. The Discovery online event is for everyone. It is not just for the students interested in the school. It is geared to help artists on many career paths better their skills and understanding of art. Those attending Discovery will have a leg up on their art education no matter where they plan to study, or work.

Here is some additional information about the school itself.


The Art Department is a career driven art school, designed by industry leading artists to train students to manage the reality of being successful in today’s creative world. It is a program deeply rooted in historical foundations, and one open to theory and ideas from all artistic paths. The Art Department provides the well-rounded foundation and tools for students to succeed. When it comes down to it, every art student has one thing on common, and that is the question “How do I get my art and life where I want it to be?” The professionals who have answered this question for themselves and demonstrated the highest levels of success are those guiding the students to reach their goals.

At the Art Department, artists have the ability to become established, successful, and famous by getting the information they need to create a portfolio of professional work. The school faculty is connected, through the Illustration Academy, the ConceptArt.Org community, and Massive Black to the largest pool of entertainment developers, toy makers, book and comic publishers, international print publications, multi-media distribution channels, video game publishers, game developers, social media creators, film studios, visual effects houses, and leading fine art galleries anywhere. The days of being lucky to be exposed to 20 or 30 companies during art school are of the past. The Art Department is uniquely designed for helping students, who earn their stripes along the way, to use all tools they need here to directly reach the world of art.

It is The Art Department’s goal to provide the place where the next generation of artists can learn both online and in-person, from some of the most successful professionals in the industry. Options in the The Art Department exist to learn exclusively over the internet, online and in immersive workshops, or in person in four major U.S. cities (San Francisco CA, Austin TX, Kansas City MO, and Richmond VA). The curriculum is strict, but fluid. The lessons are adapted to the individual’s needs and goals, and his or her level advances according to the skills mastered.

In The Art Department, there are no degrees, nor pass or fail. Students are here to learn along with their instructors, and while the atmosphere is amicable and personal, it is disciplined as well. The students will be evaluated and their instruction begun accordingly. The program runs between 15 and 30 months depending on whether a student is awarded advanced placement. Ultimately, it depends on where each student is with their art knowledge and how quickly they progress. Advanced placement can be achieved by demonstrating that the student understands the necessary content through their portfolio.

Zero and low interest student loans are available to those who qualify and early tuition discounts are there for those who are ready. Two million dollars in scholarships are available to be awarded to the top students who apply and to those with severe financial need and talent to match. At The Art Department, the portfolio means everything. If you are an artist interested in career success or a parent seeking to find the right education for your son or daughter, this unique program is an informative, inspiring, and industry connected launch pad helping students to reach the biggest dreams.



more to come....

[Gyzmotnik]

Cheers for the update Jason,

I think I'm with alot of people in watching this thread like a hawk for the sign up for TAD Discovery to be opened. I had a quick question about TAD as a whole though, and sorry if it's been answered before elsewhere, but I'd very interested in attending the school in person in any one of the cities listed (I'd lean towards Austin myself, but all sound great) Being Irish though I'd have visa issues. I know that's the point of the online option but I really would like to invest in a change of scenery along with my college training to expand my horizons a bit. I was wondering if there is any chance of help with visas for people in my situation? I realise it's probably unlikely, but I'd love a confirmation anyway.

cheers in advance, hoping to see all you guys at TAD discovery, looks like it'll be pretty mindblowing

[Jason Manley]

When artists choose an art school there are a few things that are important. First and foremost is the budget. Can it be afforded? Second, do the teachers there know how to do what they are teaching and is it what you want to learn? Third, what are the credentials of their faculty's previous students? And finally, what does the student work they have look like over the past few years?

1. We have gone over costs and financial plans showing affordability and have two million in scholarships and tuition assistance. Here is the link to the financial question's answer and poll: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=172141

2. The second question is answered by the list below and the instructor work which will be showcased on the site. Portfolios must stand on their own, even your teachers.

3. The student work will be shown on the site. You can find quite a lot of it here on CA too, on the MB/CA side. The Illustration Academy? Well for now you can check out the work of Sterling Hundley, one of our faculty. You can look at my own and my progress too. We are both students of that program.

4. We will have a showcase on the site for this along with past student work, as well as a good number of testimonials, student client lists, and information as examples.

More to come...



THE ART DEPARTMENT FACULTY CLIENT & GALLERY LIST

ENTERTAINMENT CLIENTS

2K Games
2k Marin
3rd Degree Games
Acony
Andr0meda Publishing
Acquire
Activision
ArenaNet
Arkane
Atari
Atomic
Ayzenberg Group
Backbone
Bethesda
Big American Films
Big Fish
Big Huge Games
Bioware
Bizarre Creations
Black Hole
Black Isle Studios
Black Rock Studios
Blizzard
BreakAway
Buck TV
Bungie
Capcom
Catalyst
CCP
CD Projekt
Cheyenne Mountain
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EA: DICE
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ILLUSTRATION CLIENTS
3-M Corporation
64 Magazine
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American Express
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AT&T & The Olympics
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Time Magazine
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Topps
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Tundra Publishing
TV Guide
U. S. Pentagon
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UPS
Utne Reader Magazine
Vanity Fair Magazine
Vibe Magazine
Virginia Commonwealth University
Virginia Living Magazine


FINE ART GALLERIES:
111 Minna Gallery, San Francisco, CA
American Legacy Gallery, Kansas City, MO
Eleanor Ettinger Gallery, New York, NY
Eva Reynolds Fine Arts, Leawood, KS
Fast Gallery, Springfield, MO
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Perlow-Stevens Gallery, Columbia, MO
The Shooting Gallery, San Francisco, CA
The Telluride Gallery, Telluride, CO

Thomas Deans Fine Art, Atlanta, GA

[neuroballistic]

Anything that MB/CA touches is gold in my mind. I've looked at most of what are considered the top tier art schools out there, and attended and/or took classes at a couple. Most, if not all are crazy expensive, a very small fraction have teachers that actually work in the industry at high-end companies, and a surprising amount of student portfolios are like...WTF!?...you spent that much $$ and that's what your portfolio looks like!? Granted, you get out what you put in.

A huge selling point for me when looking at schools is if the teachers/instructors are professionals currently working in the industry.

Btw, the client list has several double and triple listings, but it's still friggin huge!

[James Gerard]

Ok firstly WOW ... I love you! ... secondly... I dont have a portfolio at all but I would like to make one and I am very confident in my skills ... will the Discovery 5 week program help me make a portfolio?

[kyurai]

Hello,

i read the entire thread and there is some information i need first before making my decision about attending the 5 weeks program.

I saw that each week covers a specific part of art education, but what I am interested in are the courses. I suppose that each day there will be another course(or maybe i m wrong here? :) ). I need a little more information before deciding to attend, since there may be classes that are too advanced for my current skill level.

[Murdoc]

Hello,

i read the entire thread and there is some information .

Yeah, I too am curious about some more info; which I guess we'll wait for the update Manley mentioned? Just interested in knowing how the 5 weeks are broken up; is there one class a day or week? How long is a class? Is it live stream or on demand? Are there assignements?


Basically, I'd like to know if this is a something I can do part time or if its expected to be full time.

[inkdrop]

Relax folks. I'm sure a ton more info will be released before sign ups.

[Jason Manley]

Discovery is being taught by a select group of The Art Department faculty. We will announce the times, full instructor list and final portfolio review groups soon. For now here is some info to whet the appetite. Classes will run approximately two to three hours each day and the entire program is available On Demand for those who find it challenging to make any time or day(s).


Schedule of Classes for Discovery

Week One: Foundations
February 1-5 2010

Mon 2/01
Process with John English, Brent Watkinson, Sterling Hundley

Tuesday 2/02
Figure Drawing with Mark English, Carl Dobsky

Wednesday 2/03
Linear Perspective with Carl Dobsky

Thursday 2/04
Intro to Media with George Pratt, Coro

Friday 2/05
Head Rendering with Anita Kunz, Coro

Week Two: Illustration
February 8-12 2010

Monday 2/08
Assignment Given
Sketches, Beginning the Process
with Sterling Hundley, George Pratt

Tuesday 2/09
Research & Reference with Brent Watkinson

Wednesday 2/10
History of Illustration with Terry Brown

Thursday 2/11
Picture Book Presentation with Gary Kelley & CF Payne

Friday 2/12
Critique Assignment with instructor group

Week Three: Drawing & Painting
February 15-19 2010

Monday 2/15
Cast Drawing with Mike Bierek

Tuesday 2/16
Still Life Painting with Carl Dobsky

Wednesday 2/17
Landscape Painting with Mark English, John English

Thursday 2/18
Process & Composition with Gary Kelley, Jon Foster

Friday 2/19
Process & Composition with Carl Dobsky

Week Four: Entertainment Art
February 22-26 2010

Monday 2/22
Environments with Whit Brachna

Tuesday 2/23
Storyboards with Coro

Wednesday 2/24
Vehicles/Technical Design
with Kemp Remillard, Rich Doble, Sam Brown

Thursday 2/25
Graphic Design with Kemp Remillard

Friday 2/26
Character Design with Wes Burt, Jason Chan

Week Five: Portfolio Review
March 1-5 2010

Monday 3/1
George Pratt, Jason Chan

Tuesday 3/2
Brent Watkinson, Wes Burt

Wednesday 3/3
Mark English, Whit Brachna

Thursday 3/4
Gary Kelley, Kemp Remillard

Friday 3/5
Special Guest Instructor - Industry Leader (TBA)

[Serpian]

Man.. This sounds so so good. I really need to find a job.. :(

[Φ]

:bow:

[Jasonai]

Soooo awesome! I paid for the full five weeks, and I'm SOOOO excited. This whole art department thing is like a right on time answer to my prayers! Thanks to everyone who's responsible!

[feder!co]

Soooo awesome! I paid for the full five weeks, and I'm SOOOO excited. This whole art department thing is like a right on time answer to my prayers! Thanks to everyone who's responsible!

Where did you find the payment page?

[Jason Manley]

http://www.conceptartstore.com/discovery.html

Here is the link to the simple store. Space is limited. We look forward to seeing you all there. We have much to share and a lot to give.


Jason

[ParanoiaArtist]

I have to say again after seeing the schedule - HOLY CRAP I'm so excited! Ever since I couldn't afford to go to art school I've been so down but this has risen my spirits up! I can't wait! Any idea what time of day they will be running? (sorry if it was posted and I missed it)

EDIT: NVM! Found it

[inkdrop]

Purchased! Thank you for the opportunity! Looking forward to getting started.

[Line]

This is great, the price is great! But unfortunately for me I won't be able to participate because I have no time!!! Is there a time table for these so I can see if I can at least participate on some days?

[feder!co]

I'm in too, awesome!

[Vladimir Gasai]

I was about to lose my hope about art education when i joined this incredible web-site and i saw how much people care here.Just amazing

[Mr. Fels]

First of all: THANK YOU Mr. Manley and thanks to the whole CA staff for offering this amazing opportunity! :yayca:

The five week program will be mind-blowing. :pump:



But I got a question:

Will there be a certificate or something adequate for participating?

I'm just curious because this could be quite helpful as a reference for a later career.




Henryc

[neuroballistic]

Ugh, bad timing...just had a game company contact me yesterday and they want to give me an art test soon...which is great, but it looks like it will fall smack dab in the middle of the classes.

A few questions before I go ahead and purchase...

-How long will it be before these will be on-demand and how long will they be on-demand for? The portfolio reviews a while back still aren't on-demand and I imagine the amount of video for Discovery will be quite substantial...and since it's a 5 week course will it be longer than the usual 30 days?

-Will I be able to somehow contact the instructors to ask questions if I take the classes on-demand much later? As this is a huge part of the learning experience. It also seems like I'll be missing out on important critique sessions as well?

-How does the portfolio review portion work if I have to watch it on-demand? Would I still get a portfolio review from the artists listed at a later date?

Really good news but at the same time very upsetting that my schedule changed and may not be able to do this...especially after seeing the list of instructors! I'm going to go lock my myself in the bathroom stall and sob like a little school girl now.

[Ryuartyi]

Could you post a schedule for the times these will be going on? The spring semester starts on February 1st and I don't want to pay for the full 5 weeks and miss over half of the classes.

Edit: I was informed by Flakari that these will be on demand since there is a limit of people that can attend the live stream.

[sepiatones]

How do you register with the discount if you a member of VLP?

[neuroballistic]

Could you post a schedule for the times these will be going on? The spring semester starts on February 1st and I don't want to pay for the full 5 weeks and miss over half of the classes.

Edit: I was informed by Flakari that these will be on demand since there is a limit of people that can attend the live stream.

The schedule is here http://www.conceptartstore.com/fufiwein.html

[Purrdey]

Yay enrolled, really excited and a little scared haha! Pushing myself way out of my comfort zone and way above my current level but you don't get anywhere if you don't surround yourself with people with the talent you aspire to.

[Craz]

I just bought it. I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl!

[UnidColor]

Bought it, im super exited and just really happy to be here on conceptart to learn more things about art!

[Φ]

ah, will have to wait for the on-demand due to school and timezones…bleh. (when can we approx. expect news on that?)
yet, simply the announcement of this motivated the shit out of me! yay!

[Thujon]

...I bought the fourth week... due to the time zones, I woudnt survive the whole 5 weeks!
So I am sooooo excited!!!!

Thanks to all!

[Thujon]

Blablabla

[Ian Barker]

Wow, this looks great... a really bad time for me to be dirt poor. Oh well, I hope this is a big success, and maybe I'll be able to afford it by the time On Demand gets here.

[Mr. Fels]

Allright I'm in, cant wait for it :^^:

[neuroballistic]

ahh, looks like I'll have to pass on this one I guess, will just be missing too much since I won't be able to attend the live version now, and just not too sure how the on-demand will play out at this point.

Feel like stabbing myself 9 times in the belly with a 13-inch Wolfgang Puck kitchen knife right now...yeah, I got jokes, what?...anyway, looking forward to seeing what TAD has in store for the future, when I'll maybe have more time to invest.

[Onisan]

yeah right on bought the full package! Good thing I already snitched my fathers oil painting equipment, maybe I will finally find inspiration and use it during those weeks. I have my 5 weeks completely free for that :D

[Gyzmotnik]

just got a month of unpaid leave to do this (it's in the middle of the night here). I was worried about asking my boss but he was great about it. Here's hoping he'll feel the same when it comes to going back in :) See everybody there

[Jason Manley]

This is great, the price is great! But unfortunately for me I won't be able to participate because I have no time!!! Is there a time table for these so I can see if I can at least participate on some days?

Discovery will be available On Demand for those of you who attend and cannot make each class. Seeing everything will be piece of cake if you cut out tv time or internet chatting time from your schedules. :)

If you have to miss a class you can pick it up later that night/day or during the open On Demand period after the class. More info on this to come.


Jason

[Jason Manley]

How do you register with the discount if you a member of VLP?

If you are having such challenges please send an email to scooterATmassiveblack.com and he can assist you.

Best,


Jason

[Jason Manley]

Ok firstly WOW ... I love you! ... secondly... I dont have a portfolio at all but I would like to make one and I am very confident in my skills ... will the Discovery 5 week program help me make a portfolio?

It will help you more than any single month of anything. :)

I spent four weeks at the Illustration Academy, which this program is expanded upon. I then went back to community college and used what I learned, and with that portfolio I got a very big scholarship to Art Center. The professional information included is the real deal.

We will be discussing portfolio development during portfolio reviews. The portfolio portion will be tuned for both getting into school or getting scholarships, as well as building or rebuilding professional career paths. Those being reviewed will get one on one input that could literally change their whole art life. Bring an open mind, a sketchbook for notes, and think about smart questions for these artists before class begins. These are the people worth learning from. I know that personally.

[neuroballistic]

Just opted for week 4...the Entertainment + Portfolio Review! It was either that or end up like ol' Artie :P Wanted to do the whole deal but just not going to fit the schedule. It's going to be a kick ass 2 weeks!

[Capital G]

I just bought the whole 5 weeks, Its my final year at university as well, its gonna be a busy few months :D

[Noah Bradley]

Woooooooow.

:jawdrop:

[kittens]

So happy to see some updates! Very excited about this and so happy that is going to be on demand! Thanks = D

[Thyname]

Woot. signed up for the whole thing.

I have no idea where I am going to find the time... but sleep is overrated. This is gonna be friggin fantastic

[the conjurer]

Very cool, i at least want to sign up for part of it if not all!
I will be relocating to san francisco in may and also like to know more about the physical Art Department and/or NextGen Atelier.

[Kaffinated]

This is going to be:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j113/tinkerbelle1121/1243124660333.jpg

[ParanoiaArtist]

Just bought the 5week package... I don't even wanna go to sleep I'm so excited! :D

[Liam Harvey]

Just bought my place for the whole 5 week course. Going to be such an experience.

[Φ]

Discovery will be available On Demand for those of you who attend and cannot make each class. Seeing everything will be piece of cake if you cut out tv time or internet chatting time from your schedules. :)

If you have to miss a class you can pick it up later that night/day or during the open On Demand period after the class. More info on this to come.


Jason

hold on…I was going to buy the live deal. but I decided to wait for on-demand because I would completely miss week 1 and 2 (time zones (-9h)…and I have to go to school). then again Id be able to view 3 and 4 (holidays). but again, Id miss the portfolio review.

so what I understand from what you posted above is, that the full five week introduction includes an on-demand possibility already in case I miss a class?
if that is correct, should I buy it , even if I can only attend live classes of week 3 and 4?

I hope this isnt sold out already!!?! aH!

[Jason Manley]

The On Demand goodness starts as the program does. You don't have to wait. You can watch it at will. :) Being there live gets you a better ability to interact but I imagine that asking questions in the forums for that class would elicit an answer if you did not get it.

Thanks for the interest. I look at what is happening over those five weeks and bang my head on the table at the thought that it was not available ten years ago. It does not matter who you are, Discovery will teach us things we did not know. Myself included. Odds are we will have months of ideas to work on. We are pulling out all the stops. Might as well start practicing now and looking into those topics. It will give you questions you really need answering if you do.

See you soon.


Jason

[Φ]

will buy asap! wheres my credit card?!?!

[lysgaard]

This really sounds awesome, but the classes will be 23:00 to 02:00 my local time, so it will be rather hard combining the live streaming with school. So is this worth it if you'll hardly watch anything live, or should I just try making a routine of sleeping a couple of hours every day, and spend a month with a rather defect human clock?

[Φ]

paid & order pending review. I think Im in :) cant wait!!

[Jason Manley]

This website will be updated over the coming days with more and more information including 11 tutorial videos over the next two weeks. There will be instructor work, student work and more being updated and showcased. For now, I hope you find this information helpful. The scholarship information will come next week, for the full program. There is additional info on Discovery and the programs we are offering within.


http://theartdepartment.org

Best and thanks! See you soon!



Jason Manley
co-founder
The Art Department.

[Swampdigger]

Just signed up, then went and took a closer look at the instructors/class schedule. Now I'm even more excited. Thanks for doing this Jason and crew, it's looking awesome.

[Streetz]

I am sorry if I missed this but Is this Central Standard time zone ???

Also how long will the ON DEMAND feature be up for after the classes ? ( a month, a week, etc)

[Swampdigger]

Can't answer your second question. But the classes are taking place Pacific Standard Time.

[Serpian]

I'm sorry if this question doesn't belong here, but what is the difference between The Visual Literacy Program and The Art Department?

[Flapenko]

The major question for me is will my 1.5Mbit poop internet connection be any good here? Never brought anything from CA before but wanna try this, is there any way for me to download the sessions to watch at my will?

[Noah Bradley]

Just bought the full five weeks. :) This is gonna be amazing.

[Craz]

The major question for me is will my 1.5Mbit poop internet connection be any good here? Never brought anything from CA before but wanna try this, is there any way for me to download the sessions to watch at my will?


Obviously I can't provide any official answers, but I do know that they recommend a "standard broadband connection" for the streaming classes. I just don't know what that implies numerically.

As for the 'watch at will' problem, 'on demand' sounds like the perfect solution. ;) All of the classes will be available for on demand streaming as soon (or close to it) as the class ends. This means you can miss a class and watch it later, or watch it again if you saw it and want to review. However, if you watch it on demand, you won't have the benefit of live chat with the class and instructor.

[Ryuartyi]

Just bought the full five weeks. The first few weeks of school will be so busy and awesome. I can't wait to see the new content coming in the next two weeks as well.

The new website is sick as well.

[Flapenko]

Right, well to be honest, seems almost too good to miss, I might as well ask Jason outright, if my internet screws me, am I eligble for a refund?

[bolow]

What is the portfolio reviews week about? Do you give out assignments throughout the 4 weeks then on the 5th they get reviewed? :\

Thank you for your time

[JHuntsman]

Purchased the full 5 weeks, and I cannot wait for this to begin. This is exactly what I've been looking for! Thank you...

will the classes be mostly lecture based, or will there be assignments to go along with the classes? It seems like for the structure of the schedule that this will be mainly a lecture based course, however, there is one assignment noted in the 2nd week.

[Delmar]

Maaaaan i wasn't sure, but now i bought the whole package......whhhaaaaa i'm pretty excited about that.
My biggest problem is that i'm too digital and i really would love to get introduced more into traditional media. Also can't wait for the entertainment classes.

:mod:

and

thanks to CA, massive black and the Atelier

[Jason Manley]

There will be certain assignments for the classes. The best way to learn is by doing right?

Portfolio review week is exactly as advertised...you will get your portfolio reviewed by the professional faculty and get input on the direction you wish your work to go. These are really great as you get to hear the truth about your work and get constructive input directly, on improving your work.

We will have technical support to assist those who have issues. This system we use for our classes works on my wifi just fine. It will work on average internet connections. If not we will handle each case individually.

[Jason Manley]

There was a good question about the difference between TAD and the VLP.

The Visual Literacy Program is the new subscription forums which we are bringing to conceptart.org. Inside are a host of great video tutorials from guys like George Pratt, Jon Foster and others, as well as a professional crit and sharing forums which have a lot of information being shared that won't be found anywhere else. It is available now and gets you access to more info than can be found here on CA or anywhere else. If you want to get info that will help you improve your portfolio, get scholarships, prep for college or that new job, the VLP is a great way to start. The community asked for subscription forums as a way to support the site so we went out and brought in the best one out there. visit www.visualliteracyprogram.com for more info.


The Art Department is the full deal. It is a career driven 30 month art education program led by instructors that lead their fields. You can read all about here www.theartdepartment.org

[Jason Manley]

This really sounds awesome, but the classes will be 23:00 to 02:00 my local time, so it will be rather hard combining the live streaming with school. So is this worth it if you'll hardly watch anything live, or should I just try making a routine of sleeping a couple of hours every day, and spend a month with a rather defect human clock?


You can fit it all in, I have no doubt. :) Axe and hour of sleep and better time manage and you are good to go. You do not have to watch it live, no. You will get the info you need if it is live or On Demand. If you have questions you want asked and cannot be there we will have threads for those good questions so you can ask before class begins and then the teachers can read them off as class ends, so you can get questions answered even if you cannot be there.

cool?


J

[Jason Manley]

On Demand will be up for 30 days as usual.


Jason

[James Gerard]

It will help you more than any single month of anything. :)

I spent four weeks at the Illustration Academy, which this program is expanded upon. I then went back to community college and used what I learned, and with that portfolio I got a very big scholarship to Art Center. The professional information included is the real deal.

We will be discussing portfolio development during portfolio reviews. The portfolio portion will be tuned for both getting into school or getting scholarships, as well as building or rebuilding professional career paths. Those being reviewed will get one on one input that could literally change their whole art life. Bring an open mind, a sketchbook for notes, and think about smart questions for these artists before class begins. These are the people worth learning from. I know that personally.


signed up yesterday ... looking forward to everything ... what a fantastic opportunity to learn! . Thanks :)

[lauraheiple]

This sounds great. Unfortunately my semester just started so I don't have time to do this. :(

[Thyname]

Re: To people asking about if it will be worth the time and effort because their daily life is already full.

I am graduating in May with a degree in Biology and in order to graduate in May so I can attend TAD, I have to take 22 credit hours. Not chump classes either, senior level biology classes and I'm a taking medical illustration class and I'm doing an internship.

However, I did not hesitate to sign up for Discovery because the information is priceless to me. I am off to a late start and I need all the help I can get. I won't just be missing 1 hour of sleep a night, I will probably get 2-4hrs of sleep a night for the entire month.

My wednesday schedule begins at 7:15 in the morning when I wake up and is followed by class from 8:30->2:15, then I have to do drawings of fungi until 5, followed by molecular biology until 7. Then I have to drive across town and meet with my internship boss from 7:30->9. Then I finally get to go home, eat and watch 3hours of the On Demand classes.

I know this is a bit of a rant, but If I can do it... anyone can. Just buckle down and know that you can watch the videos over the weekend if your week is too busy and it overflows.

tldr: Life is tough and can be super busy. This opportunity is priceless, work your ass off and it will just be another chapter in your life. Hopefully a great chapter.

[thek]

On Demand will be up for 30 days as usual.


Really looking forward to this - signed up last night after reading the proposed class schedule. It's going to be tough, I know that, but I can't wait for it to start!

One thing though, have you considered maybe having a set date for the OnDemand material to be cut off rather than the 30 days? The reason I ask is because this is quite different to things you've done in the past where the event consisted of just the one lecture. This is 4 intense (for those of us working anyway!) weeks of almost daily lectures, and by the time we get to the last lecture, 30 days from the first lecture will have elapsed, meaning we don't get the chance to rewatch them.

[Craz]

Cheers for the update Jason,

I think I'm with alot of people in watching this thread like a hawk for the sign up for TAD Discovery to be opened. I had a quick question about TAD as a whole though, and sorry if it's been answered before elsewhere, but I'd very interested in attending the school in person in any one of the cities listed (I'd lean towards Austin myself, but all sound great) Being Irish though I'd have visa issues. I know that's the point of the online option but I really would like to invest in a change of scenery along with my college training to expand my horizons a bit. I was wondering if there is any chance of help with visas for people in my situation? I realise it's probably unlikely, but I'd love a confirmation anyway.

cheers in advance, hoping to see all you guys at TAD discovery, looks like it'll be pretty mindblowing

I would love some information on Visas too.
Emigrating to the U.S. is a nightmare and I'm planning on doing it at the end of this Summer.
Thank you. For everything.

[James Gerard]

I'm thinking Materials for the introductory course will be covered in the beginning of the coarse. Am I wrong or is there something I've overlooked?

[Penderpan]

How much content is covered in each lecture? How will the lecturers deal with the problem of condensing so much information into so small a time frame?

[Akif]

Just signed up for the whole 5 weeks.

There was talk about there being a limited number of spots for the live-view lectures. I got no confirmation in the payment and confirmation process that I was eligible for the live-views.

How will I now if I made it in time?

Mehmet Akif Malatyali

[Flapenko]

Ahh man, don't have the time for this atm, damn being enrolled on another art course... seems bloody amazing though, do a DVD of the lessons for those who wish to buy them afterwards!! :)

[chromion]

Just bought the 5week package... I don't even wanna go to sleep I'm so excited! :D

I'm too exited with this wonderful world of artists...It's so cooooooool...

[kittens]

Yay knowing that it will be on demand for 30 days seals the deal for me. Just got the full five weeks!

[mbarq]

Agree with Akif. Is there a way to know if the "live positions" are still open?

Also...I don't want to be rude (I actually want to know), but...how does this differ from the portfolio reviews that were just $50 to watch for the whole week? Now it's $100 a week? No that I'm complaining too much...I mean only place I know you can learn from George Pratt is Ringling and that's not $500.

[Murdoc]

Agree with Akif. Is there a way to know if the "live positions" are still open?



Wanted to add something to the question; is it first signed up who get into the live positions by default; or is it first come first serve on a daily basis? So everyone who signed up is in a general pool and whoever floods in first gets a seat?

[Hive_minD]

Well Jason all in all I think I am going to have to apss the discovery. Sounds wicked, but two jobs, and school. I think Ill stick to my regular schedule and work on my art in the late nights. Same time save money for TAD! ! !

[Jason Manley]

There are still some LIVE spots available. We are about to begin a push in letting people know. As it gets down to the last spot I will let people know. If the thread title says LIVE Closed we will be full.

Thanks everyone! Putting this together is a ton of work and entirely worth it.


Jason

[Jason Manley]

There are still some LIVE spots available. We are about to begin a push in letting people know. As it gets down to the last spot I will let people know. If the thread title says LIVE Closed we will be full.

Thanks everyone! Putting this together is a ton of work and entirely worth it.


Jason

[matty_mcmullen]

Well I'm on board just bought the $500 introduction... Pumped!
but nervous.

[Ramza]

Just paid for the $500 deal.
Very very excited to be a part of this!

Just one question: In the portfolio thread, is there any way to make the review private so that it can only be viewed by myself and the instructor(s) giving feedback? This would be a welcome addition, although I'm not sure if it is at all possible.

Thanks in advance!

[Onisan]

Just one question: In the portfolio thread, is there any way to make the review private so that it can only be viewed by myself and the instructor(s) giving feedback? This would be a welcome addition, although I'm not sure if it is at all possible.

I guess there will be a password secure sub forum or something like that to post all of the assigned tasks and ultimately the portfolio for the review. Your portfolio will be viewed by the instructors and all of the other participants of Discovery.
This is probably better than just a 1o1 with the instructors, because on the one hand there might be some good feedback from some of the pro participants and on the other you are able to learn from the feedback others receive on their work as well.

[inkdrop]

Question : Is there a recommended tool kit? IE...will I need paints, boards, charcoals...

If I need to get some supplies I would like to order them now so they are here by the time classes start. I buy most of my supplies online.

[lysgaard]

Just bought the full deal too. Looking forward to this!

[Yautja892]

Just gave myself the best birthday present ever!!! signed up for the 5 weeks, can't wait! :yayca:

[inkdrop]

Question : Is there a recommended tool kit? IE...will I need paints, boards, charcoals...

If I need to get some supplies I would like to order them now so they are here by the time classes start. I buy most of my supplies online.


You have made me quote myself and this upsets me, but before I run out of time to order online and have to overpay my local AC Moore or Michaels....

Is there a recommended tool kit? IE...will I need paints, boards, charcoals...

If I need to get some supplies I would like to order them now so they are here by the time classes start. I buy most of my supplies online.

[Streetz]

Wanted to know if live spots are still open ???

ANd if you only sign up for one week can you still get a live spot???

Thanks in advance.

[TAD Admissions: Scott Richeson]

Live spots are still open. We will let you all know when it's getting close.

Thanks!

Scooter

[Liam Harvey]

i may have to watch the ending of Discovery's last week or so using on demand, but i am going to be awake at 6AM (my time) for as many as humanly possible, so i can paticipate and learn live.

Brought the $500 package-going to smack my brain in the face with knowledge-(almost) everyday for a MONTH

reason for on demanding the last week or so? possible University!(yay!)
ulterior motive is to totally go to the TAD afterwards.

Art is going to lay a smackdown on 2010!

[John English]

Gerbil Fetus-

Take advantage of the Discovery Program, I have seen a lot of what all the artists are preparing and there will be a huge amount of information delivered!
It will also give you a good look at the quality of instructors and delivery of information that will be part of TAD.

The price of the Discovery Program works out to be $6.66 per hour for incredible information, information you cannot find in school anywhere!

Look forward to seeing you in class!

John

[Liam Harvey]

Gerbil Fetus-

Take advantage of the Discovery Program, I have seen a lot of what all the artists are preparing and there will be a huge amount of information delivered!
It will also give you a good look at the quality of instructors and delivery of information that will be part of TAD.

The price of the Discovery Program works out to be $6.66 per hour for incredible information, information you cannot find in school anywhere!

Look forward to seeing you in class!

John


Thanks for the kind words! and dont worry, I intend to make the most from this opportunity.:yayca:

[bolow]

Just bought the whole package, cant wait. Hopefully i'll beable to stay awake :/

Questions -

Does the ondemend stay up 30 days from the course starts or 30 days afterwards?

Will you be streaming video or only slides like the streaming classes?

[Craz]

Just bought the whole package, cant wait. Hopefully i'll beable to stay awake :/

Questions -

Does the ondemend stay up 30 days from the course starts or 30 days afterwards?

Will you be streaming video or only slides like the streaming classes?

Must be either 30 days after the course ends or 30 days after each class airs, as Discovery itself lasts more than 30 days.

At least one of the streaming classes has had video of the instructor (Marshall Vandruff's Anatomy class), but I would also like to know the specifics on how the classes will be represented.

[ccp85]

HEy ! I just purchased now the 5 weeks course, I hope to learn a lot with you, great people and staff of Concept Art.Org. I hope to not having problems with the conexion and other things. I am a little lost about the instructions. In The link that you gave to us there is only a blue botton that puts Keep shopping. It will be change? or it will be post in other place or fourm?? Please make sure to answer this important question, because I'm from Spain, and I have to make a extra effort to follow the instructions because my english. Thanks and hope to see great things.

[ccp85]

Ok, now I understand, can't wait to the Premiere event...!!!

[DSGodwin]

So my work has just approved paying for this. Ihave a question though and it may be obvious and Im just to lazy to read all the posts. If I buy the live can I still watch it on demand?

[Craz]

So my work has just approved paying for this. Ihave a question though and it may be obvious and Im just to lazy to read all the posts. If I buy the live can I still watch it on demand?

Yep, you're being lazy.
When you buy the course, you get access to the streaming classes. The on demand streaming and live streaming classes are the same purchase. You can watch each live class if you show up on time; if not, you can watch them on demand. On demand can be watched as many times as you want while it's still up, even if you show up for the live class, so you can also use the On Demand for review.

[DSGodwin]

One other question. My company is purchasing this on a random computer. The password they get will it work on any computer or is it IP specific?

[Craz]

I'm pretty sure it works on any computer. At least, it better, as I've just switched computers.
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't- the passwords are to get into the forums.

[Thyname]

First of all. i would like to say that I checked out the degree plan on the TAD website, and it looks intense and breathtaking... I wouldn't have it any other way. I can't wait until the school gets started. I'm working everyday to try and put together a portfolio that will allow me to get into the school.

I do have some questions regarding the locations for the school. I was going to email my question to the info website, but I figured that other people might also have my same questions.

I am going to go all out and moving to Austin. I want to be in an environment where I will have some chances of getting possibly some internships, or being able to do some work on the side.

But I wanted to know how the workshops were going to be handled. Are the workshops going to be specific? Such as, will the SF workshop have the classes for the Entertainment major, while the Austin workshop has classes for the Illustration major? Or will they all have roughly the same content except with separate instructors?

The way I had always imagined the workshops was that they will be exactly the same as the live streaming classes except the students would be able to meet the teachers and see the demos and lessons in person. But I was thinking last night that this is impossible. If it were to happen that way, then only one location would have the "Figure One" class.

So I was wondering if the workshops are going to be a break from our normal class schedule? and will they be set up very similar to how the Dallas workshop was set up?

I know it is several months away, but my fiancé and I are already saving and planning. All information is helpful

[kittens]

I posted this in poll thread, but it's not as active anymore..

Anyways this is a question pertaining to TAD program:

Is there anyway that someone would be able to attend only 2 weeks of the workshop time instead of three. I've talked to my employer about it and 2 weeks is the cut off of time that can be taken off at a time without having to quit. I see how cutting off a week could cut off a ton of information, but I don't see how else this could work.

Unfortunately I cannot quit my job, and even if I did try to find a new job, I doubt I'd be hired by someone after telling them I would need 3 weeks off 3 times a year. = /

Anyways, just wondering if maybe some people have the same concerns and if there is a possible solution. = )

[cl0aked]

I'm sorry if it was answered before, but what time are the classes taking place? (utc?)

[Adam Watts]

This looks really good. 2 art schools later and I feel like one month of TAD will trump them both in material covered and quality of instruction.

I've signed up, but my schedule is already pretty nuts. I work full time, teach part time, and freelance the rest. Good thing for the on demand portion.

My concern though is about the portfolio review. I imagine you would want to be there live? How does this work? Is this any body of work, or simply what we've produced through the program?

Does the portfolio review have any impact on our chances of landing a scholarship for the full school?

Also, I saw implications of homework assignments. Is that just independent exercise, or will instructors review our work? (the latter would be pretty darn cool)

I'm sure I could swing a week of vacation if necessary.

[Akif]

Is there anyway that someone would be able to attend only 2 weeks of the workshop time instead of three.

From what I could gather in the whole signing up process, you can select which weeks you want to attend. You can choose to attend the first and the third week of the program if you like. You don't have to attend and pay for the whole thing.

Hope I got the question right and this helps.

[Line]

Jason I need to ask some questions about the Art Department training program, just to clarify some things that aren't very clear from what I've read here and on the Art Deparment site. Should I post my questions here or is more info going to be available soon? My questions have to do with the day to day way of instruction etc.

[kittens]

Thanks so much for replying to my post Akif, I'll be able to go to all the Discovery program, but I was talking about the actual TAD school program, that to my knowledge should be starting up in June?

To what I understand, it is all online, but there are 3 week on location workshops 3 times a year. (unless I've missed something). Unfortunately the place I work for has gotten really strict the past year or so about vacation time and it's two weeks at a time or nothing. (economy sucks!) I'd really like to try to work something out.

Hopefully I'll get some answers here, there doesn't seem too be too much FAQ and I'm also on the site and see nothing about on location workshops so I'm not sure if this will even be an issue. I also see "register now!" but no where to point me where to register. = / I haven't seen any big updates on here either.

Anyways I have tons of questions as it seems a lot of others do as well, and I'm not sure where to go with them. I know you guys are super busy with everything going on, so I'll be patient and I know June is still a while away but it's going to come very fast. I might try forwarding this to the email address on the site. I trust they will all be answered in time! = )

Thanks for any answers or help! = D

[Akif]

Hi Kittens. Now that I have reread your post, I see I have misunderstood your question. I have not seen much info about the workshops aside from Jason Manley's original post in the forums giving the first info about an upcoming school. My understanding was that the workshops were like the icing on the cake for those who wanted an intense hands-on experience making up for any shortcomings of the online program. As I may be thinking of attending the school, I'm guessing they will not make me come all the way from Turkey each year to attend the seminars, so I think they most likely will be optional, including which weeks you have time to attend. I hope we get info about these little things as soon as possible as the registration dates are closing up slowly.

[Ted E.]

YES, I'm in!

Let the awesomeness begin. :yum:

[cl0aked]

I'm in!! I'm in!! I'm IN!!

[Φ]

Headset question:

2 days to go. excited!!! but I have a technical question: I just thought, since I am working on an iMac, that I could use the built-in micro and not buy an extra headset…but is that really working? just wanted to be sure.

[RocketBoots]

Just signed up.

[Aurry]

Hi! Sorry if this is in the wrong thread o.o But does anybody have any idea what kind of portfolio is required to be accepted into the TAD course? Does my portfolio have to be very strong and professional and awesome?

[Craz]

Hi! Sorry if this is in the wrong thread o.o But does anybody have any idea what kind of portfolio is required to be accepted into the TAD course? Does my portfolio have to be very strong and professional and awesome?

Ten minutes of intelligent searching will yield you Jason's post that gives guidelines on what you could put in your portfolio for TAD, as well as a whole wealth of information, in various places on this site, on how to build a good portfolio.

[Thyname]

Ten minutes of intelligent searching will yield you Jason's post that gives guidelines on what you could put in your portfolio for TAD, as well as a whole wealth of information, in various places on this site, on how to build a good portfolio.

I believe he was asking about strength of portfolio. Like a portfolio that gets you into the Art Institute might not get you into SCAD or Ringling.

@Aurry:
I would suggest that you make your portfolio as professional as possible. Jason mentioned earlier in a thread what he would like to see in the portfolios.
As far as strength of portfolio? No one can answer that question except the admissions department. Just work your ass of and put together something awesome. Swing for the stars. Hell you might even get a scholarship.

[Craz]

I believe he was asking about strength of portfolio. Like a portfolio that gets you into the Art Institute might not get you into SCAD or Ringling.


I was mostly answering the question about what kind of portfolio was required. That one had already been answered in detail.

[Aurry]

Ten minutes of intelligent searching will yield you Jason's post that gives guidelines on what you could put in your portfolio for TAD, as well as a whole wealth of information, in various places on this site, on how to build a good portfolio.

Oh dear I have searched for almost half an hour (typed in portfolio guidelines for TAD in the search bar too) and I still can't find the thread with the guidelines for TAD portfolio. I've searched through the posts (all the way till nov) by Jason too and that yielded nothing too.

If you're talking about this thread http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=172598, I'm afraid that doesn't answer my question. I would like to know specifically the guidelines required for admission, like what Ringling and Sheridan list out for you in their portfolio requirements. Life drawings? Digital paintings and illustrations? I would really appreciate if you can point me towards the post by Jason =) Thank you in advance.

[donm]

im in!

aurry: you might try the FAQ thread, that links you with the (poll about tuition) thread. i believe it is in there, though i can't be for sure.

[Craz]

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=172141&page=6

Posts 165 and 166.

Good luck.

[Aurry]

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=172141&page=6

Posts 165 and 166.

Good luck.

Ah I was just reading page 5 of this thread. This is awesome! Thank you very much!

[ParanoiaArtist]

So .. just to make sure... 2-5 pacific time.. would be 5-8 eastern, right?

I could definitely see myself mistaking and kicking myself later. =P

[Craz]

So .. just to make sure... 2-5 pacific time.. would be 5-8 eastern, right?

I could definitely see myself mistaking and kicking myself later. =P

I think it's 4-7 eastern.

[Noah Bradley]

No, it's 5-8 eastern.

There's a 3 hour time difference.

[Craz]

Ah, alright. I wasn't aware there was such a thing as Mountain Time.

[donm]

ill only be able to catch the first hour, glad we have on-demand.

[ParanoiaArtist]

No, it's 5-8 eastern.

There's a 3 hour time difference.

Thankya

[ccp85]

11 PM in Spain and part of Europe , More Coffee!!!! XD

[blau]

This page should tell you the correct time, no matter where you are
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/

can't wait!! :D

[ccp85]

thanks

[Liam Harvey]

Where is the link to the streaming class? should it not have started? im sure i converted my world time correctly.

[Onisan]

Where is the link to the streaming class? should it not have started? im sure i converted my world time correctly.

All the links are gathered in the files you had to download after you purchased the program. They are listed for each day inside.

[ccp85]

Great class, thanks teachers!

[ParanoiaArtist]

AWESOME first night! I can't believe there's 5 weeks of this! WOOT! I'm gonna be drawing and doodling all night

[jantmoen]

How do the ones that missed it get it on demand?

[John English]

I wanted to say thank you to everyone who was in attendance for the Discovery program today and everyone else who has shown support!

Thank you again and I hope we don't disappoint.

John

[inkdrop]

I wanted to say thank you to everyone who was in attendance for the Discovery program today and everyone else who has shown support!

Thank you again and I hope we don't disappoint.

John

Thank us! Ha! Thank you folks. Such a plethora of knowledge in place. Can't wait to actually get drawing!

[DSGodwin]

Where do we get the syllabus? Is that in the Demand section

[Ian Barker]

Can we get a private forum to discuss class and post homework in?

[Thujon]

I wish all the very best of times!

I bought only for the forth week... and my question is... how will I get in? I payed the bill but did not hear see or smell anything yet... if someone could point me into the right direction with this I would be so glad and thankfull...

Peace!

[Thujon]

Freakin double post....LAG!!!

[Sir_E_Pent]

I've arrived.

[ccp85]

when will we can get it on demand?

[Craz]

when will we can get it on demand?

Both of the classes so far are on demand already, I believe. The links are at the bottom (keep scrolling) of the text files that you downloaded after paying for it.

[Amber Alexander]

Where do we get the syllabus? Is that in the Demand section

right here: http://theartdepartment.org/discovery.shtml

[ccp85]

ok, thank you

[donm]

i second a private forum for homework and discussions thereof :)

[hhelenhh]

right here: http://theartdepartment.org/discovery.shtml

That Link takes us to the description of each day of "Discovery"
{oops, just saw that you were responding to a request for a syllabus!...sorry}

Do we have a discussion forum for the discovery classes? Someone posted a link last night that I thought was a discussion thread...did anyone else see that?

Thanks,
Helen

[Ian Barker]

I have a question on the portfolio review week. Will each individual get one review per day (5 total) or one during the whole week? Also, how many pieces will we be able to show?

[Darya Girina]

This looks wonderful!

[Line]

Ok, once again I need to ask some stuff. Since Discovery has begun maybe
some of you nice people who are attending can answer some questions.

Discovery is supposed to be an introduction to the fulltime training program.
What I haven't really understood about the program so far is, how this
training is actually going to go through. I am going to ask questions in the
most basic and unintellingent way, just so I can be sure I make no mistake
due to assumptions on my part, so be patient.

Is it going to be sort of a virtual ateleir? All students will have to have
common materials and set-ups, we draw and paint the subject given to us in
the form of pictures, or we have been instructed beforehand to set up say, a
particular still-life, and while we are drawing and painting in real time as the
instructor instructs us, we may have to either send the instructor a digital
photo of our progress, or he watches us via a web-cam, and tells us what we
are doing wrong, gives us tips, and demonstrates from where he is.

Or, is this more like a series of daily demos where each time we just sit there,
look at an artist do stuff, give us tips, ask some questions, take notes and
then off we go for the day?

Also, how often is this? Sorry if my question seems weird but I've never
studied in the US so I might misinterpret the information. What I am asking is
if this 30 month program has new sessions and lessons everyday, because in
the TAD website, it writes, for example, Foundations A 6 Months 30 Hours
and there is a description of those 30 hours in a week. What does this mean?
In the whole of 6 months, the actual educational time is a total of 30 hours
or are these 30 hours per week for 6 months?

I am asking because there really is no description anywhere. Sure we know
what's involved, what the tuition is etc, but I don't really have any
description on what will be going on and how. And as 'assumption' is the
mother of all screw ups, I want to get the info straight and make sure what I
understand what's involved.

[Craz]

Ok, once again I need to ask some stuff. Since Discovery has begun maybe
some of you nice people who are attending can answer some questions.

...is this more like a series of daily demos where each time we just sit there,
look at an artist do stuff, give us tips, ask some questions, take notes and
then off we go for the day?


It's more like that. However, when you 'go off for the day', you can 'go off' to a sort of community learning environment, where the instructors give extra help and generally get involved, that's going on on the boards for those signed up. It's not just demos in the classes, either. It's primarily a lot of discussion between the instructors,info about other artists' work as it applies to the lesson, and questions. It's less about tips and more about a larger understanding. There are assignments.

It's definitely not 'just sitting there', and there are always multiple faculty members in attendance.

I imagine that TAD will be structured and executed slightly differently, as it won't be 1 subject per day and the faculty is using Discovery to learn how best to do TAD.

My 2 cents. :)

[Thyname]

I will do my best. Some of things you are asking are already out there. but you do have some questions that are new. I will help out with what I know, or think I know.


Is it going to be sort of a virtual ateleir? All students will have to have
common materials and set-ups, we draw and paint the subject given to us in
the form of pictures, or we have been instructed beforehand to set up say, a
particular still-life, and while we are drawing and painting in real time as the
instructor instructs us, we may have to either send the instructor a digital
photo of our progress, or he watches us via a web-cam, and tells us what we
are doing wrong, gives us tips, and demonstrates from where he is.

There are no webcams. the instructors have class set up and they speak. Students are allowed to respond and react to class via a chatbox or my microphone. Assignments are given to be done on your own time. Assignments are given during class that require you to do them and upload a photo or a scanned image of the artwork. The students will have common materials that are stated before class. In addition to questions during class, there are forums where questions and extra work can be posted.


Or, is this more like a series of daily demos where each time we just sit there,
look at an artist do stuff, give us tips, ask some questions, take notes and
then off we go for the day?

there are daily demos. Since the instructors cannot stream live video in high enough quality, they prepare the day's lessons ahead of time and upload them to a high quality stream site. All students are directed to the links during class and everyone watches them at the same time.


Also, how often is this? Sorry if my question seems weird but I've never
studied in the US so I might misinterpret the information. What I am asking is
if this 30 month program has new sessions and lessons everyday, because in
the TAD website, it writes, for example, Foundations A 6 Months 30 Hours
and there is a description of those 30 hours in a week. What does this mean?
In the whole of 6 months, the actual educational time is a total of 30 hours
or are these 30 hours per week for 6 months?

In the United states, classes are given a level of time investment. a standard class is 3 credit hours. Sometimes this is called 3 credits, or 3 hours. A 3 credit hour class meets for 3 hours a week. Classes are ongoing for 6 months. At the end of the 6 months, if your skills in that particular field are acceptable you may move on, if not, you must repeat the course. The classes are not pass or fail, you simply move on when you are competent in the area.


I am asking because there really is no description anywhere. Sure we know
what's involved, what the tuition is etc, but I don't really have any
description on what will be going on and how. And as 'assumption' is the
mother of all screw ups, I want to get the info straight and make sure what I
understand what's involved.

If you would have looked on the TAD website, the curriculum for the entire 30 months is already posted in full. Here is a screenshot of the first semester. The first year is the same for everyone.
http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww286/thyname1/Clipboard01.jpg
If you notice Color and comp meets twice a week at 1.5hrs a pop. This is a 3 credit hour course. Figure One meets twice a week at 3hrs a pop. This is a 6 credit hour course. The entire schedule can be viewed at http://www.theartdepartment.org/info/curr_test.html#foundations_a

There are two ways to attend TAD. Either you join the Hybrid eduction or you are privileged enough to attend one of the POD locations. The hybrid education is an online program, similar to Discovery, with 3 week workshops that meet every 6 months. These workshops are practically mandatory if you are attending the online classes only. The POD style of learning will enable students to be able to attend actual studios, on a daily basis. These PODs are in Austin, San Francisco, Kansas City, and Richmond. I know space is limited at each location.

**The following are assumptions.**
I believe the Pods will be a studio learning center, where people are allowed to set up and learn in person. I think the classes will be filmed in the studios then broadcasted online. Meaning, If you are in the Kansas City POD but you are taking a class taught by El Coro, then you must watch it online... since he lives in San Francisco.


I hope this helped. If I am incorrect about any information, please correct me. I have also heard some other things, but I am unsure if it is official. So I will refrain from mentioning it.

Cheers,
-Evan Norman

[Ian Barker]

That curriculum page gets me all hot and bothered. :)

[Line]

Thanks a million for the info Thyname and Craz. I had already seen the TAD website and
although I figured this was the way it would work, and frankly I am already planning to
attend and am saving money anyway, I wanted to make certain of some things.

So, in a nutshell, the course is a mix of instructions, discussion, critiques and video
demos but the actual practice each student does on their own time and critique of the
practiced art goes on in the sketchbooks correct? So this means that we either also find
an atelier of sorts to go and practice, or we set up some space at home? I have
personally begun such a thing. Sure for now it's only a silver tea pot, cloth and a box,
but I'll be getting an ecorche figure next month and maybe a small cast (I don't feel
anything else is needed). After that all I would need is a sphere, a cone and some other
objects for variety, such as flowers, a dustpan or whaterver at any given time.

How does this set-up, along with TAD look to all of you? There is nowhere else to train
around here, and relocating is quite difficult, also I am stubborn and I want to do this my
way from where I am. TAD seems like a good way to learn along with personal effort.

Again thanks for the info, if anyone has more to add, please do so.

[John English]

Line-

How will TAD be structured?

The Art Department is a hybrid Online and Brick and Mortar program that is comprised of three branches designed to work in concert. TAD aims to provide the earnest student with the most current, purest information from the best practitioners through cutting edge educational technology, and unprecedented access. The three branches are: TAD Online, TAD Workshops, and TAD PODs.

How do the Branches work?

TAD Online: The TAD curriculum will be delivered online through cutting edge Educational software, which includes structured classroom times (recorded for On-Demand viewing) Audio dialogue between Faculty and Students, Lecture and studio style classes, assignments, streaming video, text chatting, and many other features. Unlike Traditional education, our Faculty has the facility, and the technology to show you how their problem solving applies to your artwork with the capability of digital paintovers, when appropriate.

TAD Workshops: Connecting with the faculty, students, industry icons, and potential employees has inspired the creation of TAD Workshops. Through TAD workshops students have the opportunity to meet their TAD faculty, industry icons, and to deepen their connections with the expanding global TAD Community. The The Art Department will be offering the opportunity for students to attend our three week workshops, three times each year. The program is being designed with flexibility in mind so that students, aspiring professionals, and professionals are able to adapt the demanding curriculum to fit within their schedule and time frame, as much as possible. Online classes will be recorded live, and offered as On-demand. They will be accessible 24 hours a day, when students need to watch them. This allows flexibility here in the United States, as well as alternatives to International students living in different time-zones. The plan is to hold the workshops in alternate cities throughout the year to make them more accessible to students of the tuition based online program, and readily available to those who are immersed at the POD locations.

The brick and mortar three week sessions are currently OPTIONAL, but highly recommended and are there to provide opportunities for hands on learning, networking, clarification and content, and to enhance the Online portion of the program. Participants have the choice to attend none, any, or all of the Workshops, as they are available, the first is part of their tuition. Travel expenses and accommodations are not the responsibility of The Art Department, although we will attempt to find possible venues at discounted rates.

TAD PODs: Immersion is the catalyst behind the founding of our PODs. Initially, TAD is establishing four separate PODs. The four initial locations in the United States have been chosen to represent the EAST (Richmond, VA), WEST (San Francisco), MIDWEST (Kansas City), and SOUTHWEST (Austin, Texas). These locations have been chosen for their central locations, ease of travel, and the proximity to integral faculty of The Art Department. No POD is specific to a select discipline, although the faculty leading the PODs may be more versed in the field in which they have experience. PODs are open to Majors in all four disciplines- Foundations, Illustration, Painting, and Entertainment Design. POD leaders will be announced very soon. The PODs are designed to offer a gathering place for students to work, share ideas, develop a true sense of community, and to receive input from the Professional faculty frequenting those locations. The immersive programs from the Illustration Academy and the Massive Black workshops, which have profoundly affected it's alumni, will serve as the models for these programs. Facilities will be treated as no frill workspaces with the serious student in mind.

Please Note: Behavioral issues will not be tolerated, and are subject for removal from TAD POD locations, and possibly the TAD program. Please wait until the POD leaders are announced, and have secured your spot before moving to TAD POD cities.

Living accommodations in these cities will not be facilitated by The Art Department.

I have posted this in other areas, but thought it would answer your questions!

It sounds like the online approach is what you are looking for. If you are considering the online approach I highly suggest attending a three week workshop right upfront. This will give you a feel for how the the hands on aspects of our program work and some insight on what is expected of you. The 3-week workshops will be very intense and will set you on the right path to proceed with the online information!

Hope this helps,

John

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How will TAD be structured?

The Art Department is a hybrid Online and Brick and Mortar program that is comprised of three branches designed to work in concert. TAD aims to provide the earnest student with the most current, purest information from the best practitioners through cutting edge educational technology, and unprecedented access. The three branches are: TAD Online, TAD Workshops, and TAD PODs.

How do the Branches work?

TAD Online: The TAD curriculum will be delivered online through cutting edge Educational software, which includes structured classroom times (recorded for On-Demand viewing) Audio dialogue between Faculty and Students, Lecture and studio style classes, assignments, streaming video, text chatting, and many other features. Unlike Traditional education, our Faculty has the facility, and the technology to show you how their problem solving applies to your artwork with the capability of digital paintovers, when appropriate.

TAD Workshops: Connecting with the faculty, students, industry icons, and potential employees has inspired the creation of TAD Workshops. Through TAD workshops students have the opportunity to meet their TAD faculty, industry icons, and to deepen their connections with the expanding global TAD Community. The The Art Department will be offering the opportunity for students to attend our three week workshops, three times each year. The program is being designed with flexibility in mind so that students, aspiring professionals, and professionals are able to adapt the demanding curriculum to fit within their schedule and time frame, as much as possible. Online classes will be recorded live, and offered as On-demand. They will be accessible 24 hours a day, when students need to watch them. This allows flexibility here in the United States, as well as alternatives to International students living in different time-zones. The plan is to hold the workshops in alternate cities throughout the year to make them more accessible to students of the tuition based online program, and readily available to those who are immersed at the POD locations.

The brick and mortar three week sessions are currently OPTIONAL, but highly recommended and are there to provide opportunities for hands on learning, networking, clarification and content, and to enhance the Online portion of the program. Participants have the choice to attend none, any, or all of the Workshops, as they are available, the first is part of their tuition. Travel expenses and accommodations are not the responsibility of The Art Department, although we will attempt to find possible venues at discounted rates.

TAD PODs: Immersion is the catalyst behind the founding of our PODs. Initially, TAD is establishing four separate PODs. The four initial locations in the United States have been chosen to represent the EAST (Richmond, VA), WEST (San Francisco), MIDWEST (Kansas City), and SOUTHWEST (Austin, Texas). These locations have been chosen for their central locations, ease of travel, and the proximity to integral faculty of The Art Department. No POD is specific to a select discipline, although the faculty leading the PODs may be more versed in the field in which they have experience. PODs are open to Majors in all four disciplines- Foundations, Illustration, Painting, and Entertainment Design. POD leaders will be announced very soon. The PODs are designed to offer a gathering place for students to work, share ideas, develop a true sense of community, and to receive input from the Professional faculty frequenting those locations. The immersive programs from the Illustration Academy and the Massive Black workshops, which have profoundly affected it's alumni, will serve as the models for these programs. Facilities will be treated as no frill workspaces with the serious student in mind.

Please Note: Behavioral issues will not be tolerated, and are subject for removal from TAD POD locations, and possibly the TAD program. Please wait until the POD leaders are announced, and have secured your spot before moving to TAD POD cities.

Living accommodations in these cities will not be facilitated by The Art Department.

I have posted this in other areas, but thought it would answer your questions!

It sounds like the online approach is what you are looking for. If you are considering the online approach I highly suggest attending a three week workshop right upfront. This will give you a feel for how the the hands on aspects of our program work and some insight on what is expected of you. The 3-week workshops will be very intense and will set you on the right path to proceed with the online information!

Hope this helps,

John

I just read this in another thread. It's very helpful. Where and when is there a three week workshop? I haven't been looking at the workshops threads, or is this unrelated?

Also, the online approach is the only option I've got :)

[John English]

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The first 3-week program is: June 14th – July 2nd 2010 followed by the start of the online July 12th. We are still looking at several location, we should have a definite answer in the next few weeks!

If the online program is your only option, I highly suggest attending the 3-week on-ground program before you start. It will make the delivery of the information much smoother! The information in the online program is consistent with all the programs, excellent.

Thanks for the interest!

John

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The first 3-week program is: June 14th – July 2nd 2010 followed by the start of the online July 12th. We are still looking at several location, we should have a definite answer in the next few weeks!

If the online program is your only option, I highly suggest attending the 3-week on-ground program before you start. It will make the delivery of the information much smoother! The information in the online program is consistent with all the programs, excellent.

Thanks for the interest!

John

Thanks for the info. I don't think I can manage to raise enough money for both the online program and to attend the first three week program, so I'm going to have to fight with what I got. I don't feel it's little anyway so it won't be a loss not attending this first time, it's just that it's alot of money and the distance is too great, you understand. If the info is a bit overwhelming in the begginning, that's ok, I'll manage.

I'll be seeing you on the online program. Can't wait for it!

Thanks again.

[John English]

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One of the reasons why we have developed the online program is for students in your situation. Someone wanting great information anytime and anyplace! The online program has the same information and is delivered from the same instructors as the rest of the program!

Thanks for the interest and hope to see you online at TAD!

John

[lauraheiple]

Are the 3 week workshops just for people who are doing the whole TAD program, or will they also be available and beneficial for people who only want to do the workshops? I am wondering if they will be comparable to the Illustration Academy Summer Program.

Also, is there a faculty to student ratio that the The Art Department is aiming for?

[kyurai]

hi,

i see that right now there are a lot of questions answered, so i have one as well.

For me personally, it is not possible to move to the US or change careers at this point, so i m keeping art as a hobby. But i would like it a lot if there was a possibility to take one class per semester.

I do not have the time to attend the full program, since it involves so many hours a week, but i could follow one, maybe two classes.

I didn t see anything like this on the site, so i m not very optimistic, but it doesn t hurt to ask :)

Thank you

[John English]

lauraheiple-

The 3-week workshops will be for TAD students only. The illustration Academy will become an additional program for TAD's Illustration department.

The student to teacher ratio will fluctuate depending on what type of class, the lecture classes could be much larger, they are a one way delivery of information (Art History for example). Classes that are reactionary and will require more interaction will be kept to a maximum of 25 to 1, but understand the TAD instructors are a team and will be available for support. Meaning many classes will have multiple instructors, a library of recorded demonstrations and workshops with an abundant of instructors! TAD's delivery of information will not be the same as a traditional Art and Design College. Students will get the attention the need from several sources.

Thank you for the interest in our program!

I hope this helps,

John

[Arish]

lauraheiple-

The 3-week workshops will be for TAD students only. The illustration Academy will become an additional program for TAD's Illustration department.

Does this mean the Illustration Academy is also only for TAD students, or can people apply to IA separately? And will it be taught in person or online?

[the conjurer]

Does this mean the Illustration Academy is also only for TAD students, or can people apply to IA separately? And will it be taught in person or online?
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I'm wondering the same thing or...
Say I am fortunate enough to get into TAD and choose a different major, can i still attend the illustration academy? I've really wanted to for a few years now and had planned to this year.

Thanks for all the hard work!

[John English]

The conjurer & Arish-

We are still trying to identify how The Illustration Academy will fit exactly. This is what I know: The Illustration Academy will become a special program connected to the Illustration Department at TAD. It will function as it has in the past, but I cannot give you exact dates or locations yet, coming soon! It will also except people outside of TAD and will be taught in a hands-on studio environment.

Thank you for your interest in our programs!

John

[Arish]

Ok thanks for the heads-up. Glad to hear I'll have a chance to go :)

[Rakefet]

I am going to ask a very basic (and maybe stupid) question, but I just can't figure out something.

What is the difference between concept art atelier and the new online program of TAD? I mean- economically it seems like concept art atelier is much cheaper (600$ per month vs. 1500$ in TAD), so what did I miss here? How is Tad program supposed to assist students with economical issues?

I'd also like to understand the educational difference between the two programs: assuming money is not the problem, nor the location- why should I prefer one program over the other?

Thank you in advance for your reply :-)

[Thyname]

I didn't attend the atelier but this is what I understand

- Atelier was taught by about 3 people and probably had less than 20 students. TAD will have hundreds of students.
- Atelier was in san francisco and the best hands on learning available. TAD is online and anyone in the world can attend the school. They also have PODs(studios) in 4 cities. The PODs are going to be similar to the atelier and have about 25 students. If you are interested it live education, then you now have a better chance of getting it.

- The atelier was an atelier. that is all. TAD is hoping to rival universities and offers multiple "degrees". I have been taught by around 12 instructors at DISCOVERY, i would imagine that TAD has even more. When they say they are trying to be a financial solution to students... they mean
1)Better education than Univerisities
2)about a third the cost of universities
You are comparing TAD to a 5-20 man atelier. This is comparing apples and oranges. Yes, TAD is trying to conserve the Atelier learning environment as much as possible while making themselves available to the masses

Education Issues The instructor list is going through the roof. If you want to see the difference in education, check out the instructor list at the atelier website and the TAD website. Everyone who taught at the atelier is now teaching at TAD... and then some. Look up The Illustration Academy and see their award winning graduate students. This is what you are getting. You are getting the capabilities of two excellent schools.

-Thyname

[Rakefet]

Thank you for the answer! :-)

[Liam Harvey]

Ok, so i have been trying to participate as much as possible in the 5 week discovery course, and I have been catching up on any mised classes via Demand.

I have humourously kept forgeting that im watching a class on Demand, and will try to type in or resond to the chat or an instructors examples.

Discovery is awesome and timed as a perfect primer for where i am at the moment.

[Jason Manley]

The ConceptArt.Org Atelier is becoming the San Francisco POD, essentially. That program was maximum size 15 students. We have far more full-ride scholarships than students who could have fit in our school before TAD. TAD has many instructors from a far wider experience range in professional success and understanding of art. TAD runs a far more comprehensive learning experience for it's students. TAD is making it possible for many artists to get great educations, not just those who live in San Francisco and attend the Atelier or those who can afford to live in San Francisco.

The PODS will have seats which are not occupied by full time students. What this means is, if you are in the South you have a place to study if you need to visit the instructors on site. You can check in and get the face time you need. Some students will be moving to the cities where the PODs are just to be near their teachers. TAD is extremely flexible. Even if you did all this, plus all 13 three week TAD workshops, the twice a year International Art and Design Symposiums, including driving, flights, and short term student housing or hotels, you would still be paying less than if you had attended one of the top standard art and design colleges.

The one thing to keep in mind is that TAD is molding students into problem solvers, thinkers, intellectual property creators and visual communicators. TAD is not a place you come learn the tools and move on once you graduate. The Art Department is far deeper than that in teachings. TAD is here to assist artists in becoming independent, in spirit and in career capabilities. From the information in this faculty, students will be able to develop their personal point of view in their work. No other school has this program. Not the Next=Gen Atelier, not the Academy--combined these two spirits in art training form a unified knowledge base which neither one has on it's own. Even if only had online, the depth of information is greater in TAD than any other art program you could find.

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Ok here are some more questions I have. Most specific ones that came up when I had to make a choice of a discipline.

I need some descriptions to understand what some lessons will be about. I have an idea of what many will be, but as with before, I am asking as if I know nothing, making no assumptions.

Sketchbook: The Foundation and Illustration part of the program are heavy on Sketchbook hours. What will be done during these hours exaclty? Will all the students and instructors be looking at each students' sketchbook, one by one and offer critques on the work being done? Will there be assignements that must be posted in the sketchbook and then discussed? Will it involve a sort of 'fishing' for an idea roughly developed and then prompted and helped by the instructors to turn it, eventually, into a fully developed piece? These are the options I can imagine the sketchbook lesson to have, I cannot justify so many hours going into it otherwise.

Cast Drawing, Still-Life Painting, Figure Painting, Portrait. These lessons, as stated in another thread, will have a difficulty to be taught. Essentially the only thing I can imagine (based on what I know on how they teach these things here) is that we will be given a picture and told to draw it or paint it, during the lesson, and then post it for a crit. Is that what it will be? It will be hard for this to be useful if it is. What else is going to be done during these hours?

Narrative and Genre Painting: What is this?

Advertising and Institutional Illustration, Editorial Illustration, Book Covers and Picture Books: What are these, their differences and how are they taught?

Also, I am in confusion about choosing a discipline. I know what I want to specialize in, but I want the actual materialization of it and result to be slightly different. What I am saying is that I am interested in working as an illustrator, but with a more fine art look and feel. I don't know if I'm getting my feeling across exaclty. Any input?

[Reymus]

Hi, I don't know if I'll get an answer, but are there still live spots available for this week's Drawing/Painting classes? I remembered it would be announced if classes filled but I assumed they haven't fully.

[Noah Bradley]

Reymus: I don't think I've seen the class size get much over 80, so you should be fine (the cap is 100, as I recall). Come join us! :)